中国聪明战略：“使用”而不“拥有”土地 [美国媒体]

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In 2010, Canada hosted the G7 finance ministers in Nunavut, the country's frigid Arctic province that is home to a mere 30,000 Inuit people. Canada's "Northern Strategy" for the Arctic was a centerpiece of former Prime Minister Stephen Harper's tenure, resulting in a larger coast guard, new icebreakers, military logistics centers across the Northwest Territories, regular drone surveillance flights and a fleet of stealth snowmobiles code-named Loki. When asked why Canada was placing such strategic emphasis on the Arctic, Harper responded with a simple phrase: "Use it or lose it."

2010年，G7七国财长会议在加拿大Nunavut举行，Nunavut——加拿大一个在北极圈里面的省份，仅仅只有三万因纽特人居住。加拿大对北极地区省份的“北方策略”是前总理Stephen Harper任期内的核心，而产生的影响是，对海岸警卫队进行扩充，修建新的破冰船，军事物流中心通过西北地区，常态化的无人飞机监视以及执行秘密行动的一队雪地车队-代号为Loki。当问及加拿大为何要将如此战略重点摆在北极地区省份上面，Harper只回了句简短的话：“利用它，或失去它。”

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There is no better expression to capture great power maneuvering in the 21st century, especially when it comes to China. In contrast to the legalistic and nation-based approaches that dominate Western thinking, China views the world almost entirely through the lens of supply chains. As Chinese growth and consumption surged in the 1990s, it became a huge importer of raw materials from countries that the West began to ignore as the Cold War ended. The saying "Power abhors a vacuum" is itself a synonym for "Use it or lose it." China is now the top trade partner of 124 countries, more than twice as many as the United States (52 countries). China sees New Zealand as a food supplier, Australia as an iron ore and natural gas exporter, Zambia as a metals hub and Tanzania as a shipping hub. The Argentine scholar Mariano Turzi calls his country a "soybean republic" in light of the shift in its agribusiness to serve Chinese demand. Supply and demand is the governing law of the 21st century, not sovereignty.

在21世纪，对于大国的各种操纵手段，的确没有更好的表达方式，尤其是当我们谈及中国。与遵守法律、以国家本位来思考问题的西方思想形成对比的是，中国看待世界的方式几乎全部是通过供应链的镜头完成的。当中国的经济增长及消费在1990年代如浪潮般涌来的时候，中国就成为了一个从世界各国进口原材料的巨型进口商，这些国家在冷战结束后受到西方的忽视。老话说“权利不喜真空”，其意思与“利用它，或失去它。”其实一样。中国现在是124个国家的头号贸易伙伴，是美国的两倍（后者是52个国家）。中国将新西兰视为食物供应商，澳大利亚视为铁矿石及天然气出口商，赞比亚视为金属来源中心，坦桑尼亚视为航运中心。阿根廷学者Mariano Turz则称其国家是“大豆共和国”，因其国内的农业经济都转变为服务中国人的需求了。21世纪的铁打通律是供给与需求，而不是主权。


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Lohani • 10 hours ago
Seems the 15th century Chinese and the 17th century Dutch had the same idea.
It was based on mutual benefits, not on aggression and subjugation.
The subjugation model we have today, a.k.a. "regime changes", is very deadly.
Is the death toll in Syria reaching 300,000 yet? It has been 5+ years, what has been achieved with this subjugation tactic, besides death and destruction?

貌似15世纪中国人和17世纪荷兰人拥有相同的想法。
是以互惠互利为出发点的，而不是侵略和征服
如今的征服模式是所谓的“政权改变”，这是非常致命的。
叙利亚死亡人数达到30万了吗？已经5年时间了，这种征服模式除了带来死亡和毁灭，还带来了什么？

Lohani • 11 hours ago
If this "use it or lose it" model benefits both parties and attract investments to areas of great needs, I see nothing wrong with it.
Why insists on subjugating others?

如果这种“不是使用就是失去”的模式能让双方获利并且能让急需领域获得投资，我觉得挺好的。
为什么总想着征服他人呢？

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GLI0213 • 16 hours ago
China is CLAIMING the sea. It undermines and infringes the archipelagic islands and waters, let alone the EEZ of other countries. China is violating international laws particularly the UNCLOS. The 9-line claim is illegal thus making those artificial islands illegal as well. The saying "use it or lose it" does not correlate to China's 9-line illegal claim this is absolutely different.

中国声称拥有整片海洋。这破坏和侵犯了群岛和水域，更别提侵犯了其他国家的专属经济区。中国违反了国际法，特别是联合国海洋法公约。因此九虚线是非法的，所以这些人造岛屿也是非法的。“不使用就失去”和中国非法的九虚线声明没有关联，完全不同。

Lohani  GLI0213 • 11 hours ago
Has ANY nation's maritime freedom been threatened at all in the more than 7 decades that the Chinese Nationalist Government ( as opposed to the current Chinese government) made the 9 line claim based on history??? NO, not at all.

70多年前国民党政府（而不是现在的中国政府）根据历史而制定了九虚线主权声明，这期间有任何国家的航行自由受到威胁了吗？？？根本没有。

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Benjamin Moodie  Lohani • 7 hours ago
Yes it has. My brother-in-law is a Filipino fisherman whose livelihood has been stolen by Chinese incursion just a few miles offshore of the Luzon coastline. Do not try to lie to me that no one has been effected by Chinese blatant and aggressive unilateral incursion into sovereign EEZ's of other countries. That is a bald faced lie.

 是啊。我的妹夫是一个菲律宾渔民，他的生计已经被中国入侵吕宋海岸离岸几英里所断绝。不要对我说谎，没有人不被中国明目张胆的单方面入侵其他国家专属经济区的行为所影响。那是一个赤裸裸的谎言。

GLI0213  Lohani • 10 hours ago
Laws and history are two separate entities. Histories are not accurate, they can be manipulated or doctored the Chinese way to serve the best interest of China. There are many conflicting history around the world, that's why laws were enacted as the world order. History cannot be the basis for the 9-line territorial claim because it violates international law.

法律和历史是两个不同的题目。历史不是正确的，他们可以被熟练操控以粉饰中国以实现中国利益最大化。世界上有很多相互冲突的历史说法，这就是法律会产生的原因。历史不能成为中国九断线主权声明的基础，因为它违反了国际法。

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Lohani  GLI0213 • 9 hours ago
Ll
The Ocean law is a recent product.
We cannot ignore thousands of years of human history because of a relatively recent law.
There are ways to authenticate historical claims.That is why we have academic disciplines called Archaeology and History.
Maritime freedom has NEVER been an issue in that part of the world since WWII. WE(America) made it up to justify militarizing the South China Sea. It is just a strategic step to dominate Asia ( Remember "the pivot to Asia"?)
The Filipinos have chosen to play political games, hiding behind our skirt and that of the Japanese. Not a pretty sight, for the Filipinos. Hiding behind someone's skirt is never a good thing, for humans or nations.
There are other choices of conflict resolutions.

海洋法是最近才被摆到台面上来的。
我们不能因为一个近期才出现的法律就忽略上千年来的人类历史。
要证明一个历史主权声明总有很多办法的。这就是为什么我们有考古学和历史学这两个专业学科。
自二战以来，南海根本不存在所谓的自由航行问题，我们（美国）这么炒作这个概念无非是为了给南海问题军事化找个理由，这只是我们试图主导亚太的一步战略。（还记得“重返亚太”吗？）
菲律宾人想下政治大旗，躲在我们和日本人的身后。这对菲律宾人来说可不是个好主意，抱别人的大腿从来就没有什么好下场，无论是对人还是对国家而言。
要解决冲突，还有其他选择。

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Wakachik  Lohani • 4 hours ago
Your mentality really don't breakaway to those Chinese with mental deficiency!!! I think you should see your Psychiatrist very often and make sure that you still have your brain in your head not on your toes.!!!

 Wakachik  回复 Lohani 你居然不跟那些脑残的中国人划清界限！我建议你经常去看看精神病医生，确保你的脑瓜还长在脑袋里而不是脚趾上。
 
Lohani  Wakachik • an hour ago
Wakachik
Do you have anything intelligent to add to the discussion of the topic besides toes?

 Lohani  回复 Wakachik 你有什么符合人类智商水准的话要说吗？
 
GLI0213  Lohani • 9 hours ago
No, you don't understand we are now living in a civilized world with laws that should be followed. Many countries have history that were once occupied or discovered by other empires from Europe or other kingdoms, but they cannot claim these islands now. China is setting a wrong precedent claiming a territory because of history.
China must follow this]
Source: UNCLOS
http://www.eoearth.org/files/1...

GLI0213 回复 Lohani 不，你不懂，我们现在生活在文明社会，应当遵守法制。许许多多的国家都有被欧洲国家或王国发现或者占据的历史，但是它们不能声称对那些岛屿有主权。中国树了一个从历史出发宣扬主权的非常坏的先例。
中国必须要遵守这个】
出处：联合国海洋法会议
http://www.eoearth.org/files/1...

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Lohani  GLI0213 • 2 hours ago
Ll
Are you aware that UNCLOS, which came into effect in 1982, do not have jurisdiction on pre existing disputes?
That is just a legal point.
Like you, I want to see a non confrontational approach to the territorial disputes. Everyone can play politics, using whatever justification. But solutions come from honest negotiations, not posturing.

 Lohani  回复 GLI0213 你是否意识到了联合国海洋法会议是从1982年开始生效的，对于之前就存在的问题的解决根本毫无助益？这些只是法律上的观点。如你一样，我希望有一种无需正面冲突的方法来解决现在的领土纠纷。谁都能用各种理由来玩政治，但是解决问题需要诚恳的沟通，而不是惺惺作态。
 
Elvis • 18 hours ago
Ironic. China was isolated for decades because of Maoism, and therefore were concerned with only internal matters and repelling a possible Soviet invasion in the northeast. Due to the Western geopolitical imperative of turning China into a quasi-ally thereby surrounding the Soviet Union, and later Corporate America's need for cheap labor and new customers, the West brought China out of the cold and connected them into the global economy. Now China is a vital part of the global economy and to a great extent reliant on trade for its growth, thereby making it vulnerable to Western interference with trade which in turn forces China to secure its sea lines of communication via naval power, seaports, and so on.

真是讽刺。中国因为毛泽东主义被孤立多年，因此他们只考虑内部事务并且在东北击退了一次苏联的入侵。由于西方的地缘政治需要，中国变成了西方的“准盟友”（注释：双方有共同盟友，但双方并未直接结盟），之后又给美国提供廉价劳动力和新的顾客，西方将中国从孤立中带出来，并且让中国成了全球经济的一环。现在中国在全球经济中发挥着举足轻重的作用，并且经济增长很大程度上依赖出口，所以根本无力招架西方对贸易的干涉，所以中国不得不通过加强制海权和建立港口等方式来保证自己海上运输通道的安全。

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Springfire • 15 hours ago
The author is talking about bullshit. Of course China owns all islands and features in South China Sea. As for China imports, this is normal trade. There is always a willing seller.
China is a lot of better than west who would invade/bomb/kill in order to impose their ideology.

文章作者净瞎说八道。中国当然对所有的南中国海的岛屿拥有主权。至于说对于中国进口，这就是正常贸易，愿者销售。中国比起西方那些通过侵略/轰炸/滥杀来输出意识形态的蛮子强多了。
 
Michael Ernst  Springfire • 12 hours ago
Springfire your such a dolt. No one except maybe you and a few of your troll brothers believe that China owns anything except the lands demarcated by international law. Regarding China vs the West you lose hands down and the reality of Mao's great leap forward, his cultural revolution and the millions that died by Chinese hands over whelms any death toll by the West since WWII!

Michael Ernst  回复 Springfire Springfire你真是个SB。除了你和你的那些整天逼逼的小伙伴，鬼才信中国对除了国际法限定的那几个岛屿之外的任何东西有主权。在中国VS西方的大战中你已经输得飞起，想想毛泽东搞的大跃进，文化大革命还有那些死在中国人手下的无数冤魂的数量加起来比二战后西方弄死的人加起来都多！

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Lohani  Michael Ernst • 11 hours ago
Michael Ernst
Our "regime change" game is doing a very "good" job in mass killing. I expect you must be celebrating. Whenever WE KILL, it is "good", isn't it?
How many in Syria now? Is it approaching 300,000? Add that to the toll of the regime changed Iraq, Libya and all the others before. How many do we get?

 Lohani  回复 Michael Ernst 我们的“政权更迭”游戏在成堆杀人这件事上可真是“出类拔萃”。我想你肯定特别开心吧。当我们杀人的时候，我们是在“行善”，是不？叙利亚死了多少人了？到三十万了吗？再想想我们在伊拉克，利比亚还有其他国家造成的伤亡，现在我们搞死多少人了？
 
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Lohani  Michael Ernst • 4 hours ago
Michael
It is NOT up to you or anybody else to decide facts.
History does NOT need YOUR admission to exist.
Who do you think you are???

 Lohani  回复 Michael Ernst 事实是无论你或者是其他的什么人都无法改变的。历史不以你的意志为转移。你以为自己是哪根葱啊？
 
Lohani  Michael Ernst • 11 hours ago
Michael
Amazing that you are still regurgitating things that are 40 years old.You are either suffering from mental illness of the fixation variety or you are grossly uninformed about today's world.
Have you read anything thing lately?
China is still the most populous nation on earth, as we type after the "calamities". Thus, the world is still lusting over its huge market.
If you bother to read AT ALL, the Chinese themselves have, for the first time in their history, left frequent famine behind.
Hunger is the worst form of human rights abuse. Ideology DOES NOT feed people. Many Indians are still hungry.

Lohani  回复 Michael Ernst 你居然还在捡别人四十年前就说过的老话。你要不就是有精神病，病态执拗，要不就是与时代严重脱节。你最近到底有没有读过任何东西啊？在你所谓的“灾难”之后，中国依然是世界人口第一大国。因此，这个世界仍然垂涎于这个巨大的市场。如果你根本不愿意动手查资料的话，对中国人而言，他们头一次在历史上摆脱了频发的饥荒。饥饿是最惨无人道的人权侵犯。意识形态不能当饭吃。很多印度人还饿着肚子。

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Lohani  Michael Ernst • 10 hours ago
Michael
I would hold the smirk. America is the third locale for international money laundering, after Switzerland and Hong Kong. Read the report from ICIJ.
Your IGNORANCE is showing. Again.

 Lohani  回复 Michael Ernst 我就不笑话你了。美国是全世界第三大国际洗钱中心，仅次于瑞士和香港。读读国际调查记者联盟报告吧。你再一次显露出了你的无知。
 
Springfire  Michael Ernst • 8 hours ago
Why talk about since WW2, why not include WW2 when millions killed each other, eh?

Springfire  回复 Michael Ernst 为啥要从二战后开始算？你咋不说说二战中多少西方人在自相残杀呢，嗯？