如果瓦坎达存在于现实世界,那么西方 ( 加上俄罗斯中国 )将如何从现实角度来处理它? [美国媒体]

quora网友:欧洲国家由于地域临近将会试图和它进行贸易往来,而美国会视他们为威胁并试图以民主的名义颠覆它,中国则会试图黑进他们的基础设施来了解他们的能力并进行复制,如果瓦坎达和西方发生战争,其它非洲国家将扮演代理人的角色.......

If Wakanda existed in the real world, how would the West (plus Russia and China) deal with them from a realistic point of view? 

如果瓦坎达存在于现实世界,那么西方 ( 加上俄罗斯中国 )将如何从现实角度来处理它?






Samatar Ahmed, studied International Relations
The European Nations would attempt to trade with it due to close proximity. However the United States would view them as a threat and attempt to subvert it in the name of “democracy’’. China will attempt to hack into their infrastructure to learn what they can and replicate it. Other African states would act as proxy in the event of war between Wakanda and the West. If China keeps its current history, it would not be a military threat but may act as a potential ally. Its more than likely that Wakanda would be the first nation outside of the victors of WW2 to take a permanent seat in the UN Security council.
Vibranium would be the world’s envy and the cause for any future conflict. Its inevitable for the US to stay peaceful towards Wakanda. Just like the Worlds oil Produces, american corporations will attempt to steer US policy makers to get first dibs on future exports from Wakanda.
Russia would be harder to pin down. Putin would take a middle road since Russia hasnt had interest in Africa since the cold war other than Egypt. Since Wakanda is technologically advanced it hard for them to need conventional weapon

欧洲国家由于地域临近将会试图和它进行贸易往来,而美国会视他们为威胁并试图以民主的名义颠覆它,中国则会试图黑进他们的基础设施来了解他们的能力并进行复制,如果瓦坎达和西方发生战争,其它非洲国家将扮演代理人的角色。
如果中国保持当前的历史状态,它将不会是一个军事威胁而可以作为一个潜在的同盟,瓦坎达将更可能成为除二战胜利国外第一个获得联合国安理会永久席位的国家。

振金将是全世界羡慕的对象并成为未来冲突的根源。美国将不可避免地对瓦坎达保持和平态势,就像世界石油生产一样,美国公司将试图引导美国政策制定者在未来从瓦坎达那里获得出口的优先权。
俄罗斯的话更难确定一点,普京可能会走一条中间道路,自冷战以来,除了埃及,俄罗斯对非洲没有兴趣,而由于瓦坎达技术先进,对他们来说,常规武器的需求并不那么迫切。

Im not aware of the energy self efficiency of Wakanda but due to its location in the East Africa region, Middle East oil produces will have the potential backing of Wakanda, deminishing US role in the region. The US would more than likely pivot to the Gulf and creating a semi Cold War. Wakanda does not have access to the Sea which would limit its power projection and ability to counter US Naval presence in the region.
The comic book view of peaceful Wakanda will not stand the test of reality but thats not to say it will take the side of conflict over diplomacy. Short of Isolation Wakanda will be dragged into the world’s conflict. However they would serve their usefulness in tackling some of the worlds problems such has hunger and climate change

我不清楚瓦坎达的能源自给效率如何,但由于它位于东非,中东的石油生产将得到瓦坎达潜在的支持,这将会减弱美国在该地区的角色重要性,美国很可能会转向海湾地区,制造一场半冷战,瓦坎达没有入海通道,这将限制其力量投射和对抗美国海军在该地区存在的能力。

漫画书中和平的瓦坎达经受不住现实的考验,但这并不意味着它将在外交上站在冲突的一边。如果没有被隔离,瓦坎达将被拖入世界的冲突中,当然,它们将有助于解决世界上的一些问题,如饥荒和气候变化。

Josh Barker, Parking Specialist at University of Washington (2017-present)
The answer to this question is going to largely depend on which version of Wakandan (Wakanda) technological history you are referencing. As that has changed over time within depictions of the country.
If we go with the earlier depictions, where advancement was largely a byproduct of T’Challa (T'Challa (Earth-616)). Where, after the death of his father (T'Chaka (Earth-616)), he studies abroad learning all he could from the Western world.
To use everything that he had learned to single-handedly turn his country into the powerhouse that it later became. At least in the area of comic book super-science.
This would be the most difficult version to judge. As it would be safe to assume that they had items made out of vibranium (Vibranium). Shields. Spears. Blades. Things that would be found in more tribal cultures.

这个问题的答案在很大程度上取决于你引用的是哪一版本的瓦坎达技术历史。
因为随着时间的推移,这个国家的情况发生了变化。
如果我们追溯更早期的描述,进步主要出现在特查拉(黑豹)时代,特查拉(黑豹)的父亲T'Chaka死后,他出国到西方世界,并尽其所能的学习各种知识。
他凭一己之力,用其所学到的知识把他的国家变成了后来的强国,至少在漫画书中的超科学领域是一个强国。
这是最难判断的一个版本,因为我们可以放心地假设他们已经用振金制造了振金武器,比如盾牌、长矛、刀,这些在很多部落文化中能发现的物品。

So, depending on the time period this question is referencing the answer would also be different. Rome or the Middle-Ages? Probably see a much different landscape, as Wakandans would have a much better advantage purely due to the materials they have at their disposal. Modern day, as they were originally depicted? They are not going to do so well. Especially as at this period their population was under 1,000. And a small band of men, led by Klaw (Ulysses Klaw (Earth-616)), took out a bunch with firearms.
This version of their history is not good for them in this hypothetical.
Now if you are talking about a more modern interpretation of their history… then that is completely different. As they would have had a much more storied history with higher technological achievements. With pressure sensitive devices,referred to as Panther’s Teeth (Panther's Teeth), as early as the 5th century.
Meaning that their level of technological sophistication would have greatly surpassed the outside world’s long ago. Which in this version it did.

所以,根据这个问题所引用的时代不同,答案也会有所不同,譬如罗马或者中世纪,我们可能会看到一个完全不同的景象,因为瓦坎达人仅仅靠其所支配的材料就能取得优势。
现代呢? 就像他们最初描述的那样? 那他们的表现就不会那么好了,尤其是在这一时期,他们的人口还不到1000,而且还有一小群人,由Ulysses Klaw领导,用的是枪炮火器。
这一版本的历史对他们来说并不那么理想。
如果你现在说的是对他们历史更现代化的解读,那就完全不同了,因为他们会有更富传奇色彩的历史和更高的技术成就,根据这一版本漫画的描述,早在5世纪时他们就有了“ 黑豹之齿”这样的压力敏感装备 。
这意味着,在此版本中他们的技术水平在很久以前就大大超过了外部世界。

In this version of their history, if placed in a more realistic setting, they most likely would not be threatened by other world powers. As they have had much longer to progress technologically. With the outside world playing catchup to them. Combine that with their virtually exclusive control of vibranium, and I think that not only would they have the military means to protect their country, but also the financial. As selling the material in small quantities, like they do in the comics, would be very lucrative.
Pretty much, in this version, they would be in a much more advantageous position than other countries with rare, conflict minerals. As they would have the technological might, militarily, to dictate their own terms to the world. They would have a rare, powerful resource… that they controlled. Almost exclusively. Plus, they have the luxury of complete secrecy. The rest of the world wouldn’t know how one-sided the fight would be until it happened. Most likely creating a huge powerful sense of shock and awe.
So short answer,, it depends on what version of their history. Early version is not so good for them. Later is great.

在这个版本的历史中,如果设置一个更现实的背景环境,他们很可能不会受到外部世界力量的威胁,因为他们在技术上取得了长足的进步,外面的世界只能追赶他们,加之他们在振金方面具有实质性的专属控制权,我认为他们不仅拥有军事手段来保护他们的国家,而且还拥有财政金融方面的手段,正如漫画中所描述的那样,即使出售少量的这种材料也是非常有利可图的。
在此版本中,相对于其他国家,他们由于拥有稀有的争端矿物矿而处于更加优势的地位,他们拥有技术力量,在军事上也能向世界展示自己的力量。他们拥有罕见且富于能量的资源….他们能够控制且几乎是独占这些资源,另外,他们对此享有完全的保密优势,其它国家只有在战争发生时才会知道这种资源的存在,这很可能制造一种巨大的震撼和强有力地敬畏之感。
简言之,这取决于其技术历史的版本,早期的版本对其不利,但之后的版本则是优势巨大。

Tony Kung
Well…
Wakanda is somewhere in Central Africa, so it is found by Belgium. After a few skirmishes and some scouting, Wakanda deduces that the Belgians are dicks to the Africans. Beginning of the Belgian-Wakanda war. The Wakandans distribute weapons to the Congolese and win several major battles. They launch an offensive clearing through Kasai and march to Leopoldville. The Belgian army is still using Winchesters. The battle is one-sided. Congo is absorbed into the new Wakandan Empire- at least, that is what would happen if the King was an imperialist.
Wakanda is not an imperialist state, it is satisfied with simply sharing technology and trading. Congo quickly becomes the foremost power in Africa, and Belgium is powerless to claim it.
Wakanda and Congo establish formal relations with the European powers. They decide that Europeans are savages, and Congo invades German East Africa in 1914. Wakanda stays neutral the entire war. With Germany defeated, the new world power, the Congolese Empire, gets to keep all of Germany’s African colonies.
During WWII, Congo defeats the Italian army in Ethiopia and now controls nearly all of Africa. Wakanda is not even a concern anymore. However, during the Cold War it gradually releases it’s grip as de-colonialism becomes popular.
By 2018, Africa is extremely important still, with amazing technology and immense resources.

好吧。。
瓦坎达位于中非的某个地方,由比利时首先发现,经过几次小规模冲突和几次侦察后,瓦坎达人认为比利时人对非洲人民不怀好意,在最初的比利时-瓦坎达战争中,瓦坎达人向刚果人提供武器并且赢得了几场主要的战斗,他们发动了一场进攻,清除障碍并挺进到利奥波德维尔,比利时军队仍在使用温切斯步枪,这场战争是单方面的碾压,如果瓦坎达国王是霸权主义者,至少刚果很有可能会被并入瓦坎达帝国。

而瓦坎达不是一个霸权主义国家,它只满足分享科技和贸易,那刚果将很快成为了非洲最重要的力量,且比利时无力对其宣示主权。
瓦坎达和刚果与欧洲建立了正式的关系,他们认为欧洲人是野蛮人,刚果在1914年入侵德属东非,瓦坎达在整场战争中保持中立,随着德国的溃败,新的世界大国刚果帝国开始控制了德国的所有非洲殖民地。
第二次世界大战期间,刚果击败了意大利在埃塞俄比亚的军队并几乎已经控制了所有的非洲国家,瓦坎达已经不再是一个令人担忧的问题,然而,在冷战期间,随着反殖民主义的盛行,它逐渐释放了它的控制。
到了2018年,非洲变得极其重要,拥有着卓越的科技和丰富的资源。

Max Cogswell
The same way they do in the movies, by ignoring them. Wakanda is an isolationist state that has survived and avoided the fate of other African nations being colonized or falling to civil war by having an invisibility cloak and an abundance of resources that makes trading with outsiders counter productive. They dont interfere with Western resource exploitation, the slave trade, or political manipulations in Africa and that is how they survived. With their technology they could overpower a Western nation but we have no reason to believe they could survive nuclear fallout even if they could shield the blasts impact, so a fight with the West is still MAD.

就像在电影里一样,无视他们。瓦坎达是一个孤立主义国家,它生存下来并且避免了像其他非洲国家一样被殖民化和卷入内战的命运,这得益于它拥有如隐身衣般的技能并且有着丰富的资源可以和外来者进行富有成效的贸易往来。
他们不干涉西方的资源开采,奴隶贸易和在非洲的政治操纵,这也是它得以幸存的原因。
以他们的技术力量他们可以战胜一个西方国家,即使他们能够抵御核武器的爆炸冲击,但没有理由相信他们能在核辐射中幸存下来,因此,与西方进行战争是一个疯狂的行为。

If they did decide to reveal themselves it would be the way T'challa did at the UN in a world wide broadcast because they realized hiding was no longer viable. This would forever shatter the myth of white supremacy, and simultaneously earn the ire and validate all Afrocentric blacks who would now have proof of their peoples superiority over the West and proof of the ugly truth of an aloof priviliged group of African nobility who had been indifferent to the plight of other blacks under Western expansion while they prospered, which isnt too different from actual history.
They would probably use their technology to uplift the rest of Africa to make ammends and reduce local hostilities and begin trading and influencing Western nations to do their bidding and the dynamic of the West using their wealth and technology to manipulate the thirdworld would be reversed for a very long time, but I’m not sure how it would effect China. The transition wouldn’t be immediate and they would have to compete with nations like Israel for influence over the U.S. but it clearly shows they are able to infiltrate the West and they would be well positioned to make the most of their advantages having a long time to study them while the West has had none to study them.

如果他们意识到隐藏已经不再可行了,并决定公开自己的身份,就像特查拉(黑豹)在联合国所做的那样,这将粉粹白人至高无上的神话,同时会迎来非洲中心主义的黑人忿怒,并赢得所有以非洲人的认同,他们将有证据证明他们的民族优于西方,并证明了一个冷漠的非洲贵族的丑恶事实,他们在西方扩张时对其他黑人的困境漠不关心,这与实际历史并无太大区别。

他们很可能将对其他非洲国家进行技术援助来改善他们的现状并且减少本土的敌意,也将开始进行贸易以促使西方国家按照自己的意愿行事,而西方利用自己的财富和技术操纵第三世界的现实将在很长一段时间内被逆转,但我不确定这会对中国产生什么影响。

这种逆转也不会立刻发生,他们不得不采取像以色列影响美国一样的方式并与其它国家展开竞争,这清楚的表明,他们能够渗透到西方,他们将处于有利地位,能够充分利用自己的优势来研究西方,而西方却没办法研究他们。

Matt Cates, Admin at Oregon State University
I think all nations would collectively poop their pants then scramble to figure out how they could get a piece of the Wakanda pie before the others. Wakanda is very advanced but not really a large nation compared to US, Russia, or China.
It does have advanced weapons but realistically they don’t have a lot of experience in actually using those weapons against a hostile nation state, and we’re unsure if they have nuclear weapons but it doesn’t appear so. They don’t export anything, so not sure what commodity they would have apart from the vibranium and other tech, but then again those are invaluable. Just the medical science advances alone would be worth starting a war over.
So…I think eventually someone would try to take over Wakanda, one way or other. And then the Avengers would have to come in to save the day!

我认为所有的国家会集体迫不及待的兜拉起裤子,然后手忙脚乱地想办法让自己在其它国家之前得到一份瓦坎达馅饼。
瓦坎达很先进,但和美国,俄罗斯,中国相比真不是一个大国。

他们的确拥有先进的武器但缺乏使用这些些武器来对抗敌对国家的大量经验,我们不确定他们是否有核武器,但是事实并非如此。他们不出口任何商品,所以不确定除了振金外他们还拥有什么产品和技术,这些产品是无价的,仅仅医学方面的进步就值得发动战争。
因此。。。我认为最终会有人试图用某种方式接管瓦坎达,然后妇联不得不出来扭转局面!

EDIT: Would the Avengers really need to save the day if Russia (for example) attached Wakanda? LOL, no I was just kidding, because if we are hypothesizing that Wakanda exists in the real world, then that is one thing…but if we're saying that the entire MCU exists in the real world then that's another story!
But back to the topic of only Wakanda being real--like I say Wakanda has incredible tech but they have never been in a war, have they? Nobody even knew they were an advanced society, so they've never needed to defend their country against invasion. Their military has no relative experience in that scale of combat, that we've seen.
During the inter-tribal fight scene at the end of the Black Panther film, aren't they ground fighting hand-to-hand?
How many aircraft have they got? Do they have nukes or missiles? How many? Russia has, oh.
I am just saying, I don't know if any country would try to take over Wakanda, but my assumption is that if anyone did try, Wakanda would soon firm up the military alliances they already have (aren't they part of the UN?
I know they ratified the UN-backed Slokovia Accords…but again, now we're dipping back into the MCU!) Such alliances would inevitably lead to their volunteering to share their tech with allies, thus altering the global balance of power, thus causing the other sides to try harder to steal vibranium and Wakandan tech…thus leading to World War 3!!!

编辑:如果是俄罗斯(举个栗)攻击瓦坎达的话,真的还轮得到复仇者联盟来拯救世界吗?
LOL,不,我只是开个玩笑,因为如果我们只是假设瓦坎达存在于现实世界中,这是一回事,但如果我们说整个漫威宇宙存在于现实世界那就是另一回事了!

但回到假设瓦坎达真实存在这个话题——就像我说的,瓦坎达拥有令人难以置信的技术,但是他们从来没有经历过战争,对吧?  甚至都没人知道他们是一个先进的社会,所以他们从来不需要保卫他们的国家不被侵略,他们的军队放到我们所见过的战争规模上丝毫没有相关经验。
在黑豹电影结尾的部落间打斗场景中,他们不是在徒手格斗吗 ?
他们有多少飞机?他们有核武器和导弹吗?有多少? 哦,俄罗斯有 。

我只想说,我不知道是否有哪个国家会试图接管瓦坎达,但我的假设是,如果真有人尝试,瓦坎达将很快巩固他们已经拥有的军事同盟 ( 他们不是联合国的一部分吗? )

我知道他们批准了由联合国支持的斯洛伐克协定,但是,这样的话我们又回到了漫威宇宙 ! 这样的联盟将不可避免地导致他们自愿与盟友分享他们的技术,从而改变全球力量平衡,从而导致其他各方更加努力地去窃取振金和瓦坎达技术……从而导致第三次世界大战!!!

Zach Fisher, Tax Accountant at a National CPA Firm
World powers don’t ordinarily try to start wars with nations that are more powerful than them if they’re being peaceful and kind to them. They generally only fight them if they’re threatening their way of life, or ironically if they’re fresh meat and have something that they want. They certainly have something that the world wants, but the world is in no power to take it from them.
I’d imagine that we’d thrust them into a bigger position in the UN, ask for them to give more aid across the world, implore for them to trade more, and many of our graduates and young people would be itching to work, intern, or go to school there. It would also become a huge tourist destination. America might also implore for them to get involved in the peacekeeping missions across the world, and ask for them to rebuild the Middle East.
Wakanda’s intentions would be noble, but they’d soon find themselves in over their heads, and before long, they’d find themselves torturing, sending drone strikes, and blowing up Mosques by accident in the name of “democracy.”

如果对方保持和平友好,世界强国通常不会试图与比它们更强大的国家开战,他们通常只在其威胁到自己生存的时候才与其战斗,或者,讽刺的是,如果对方是一块令人垂涎的大肥肉并且有着他们想要的东西,他们会发动战争,瓦坎达显然拥有世界想要的东西,但世界没有能力从他们手中夺走它。

我想我们会把他们推到联合国一个更重要的位置,要求他们在世界范围内给予更多的援助,恳求他们进行更多的贸易,我们的许多毕业生和年轻人都渴望去工作,实习,或者去那里上学,它也将成为一个热门的旅游目的地,美国也可能恳求他们参与到世界各地的维和行动中,并要求他们重建中东。
瓦坎达的意图是高尚的,但他们很快就会发现自己被蒙在鼓里,不久,他们就会发现自己在以“民主”的名义折磨自己,发动无人机袭击,并意外地炸毁清真寺。

Brandon Li, I have enough of an education to know how to use Google and the library
It wouldn’t have ever gotten into its current state.
Wakanda and its vibranium was known about as early as WWII, with Captain America traveling there to combat Nazi infiltrators. Considering how spectacularly versatile vibranium is, the rumors of its existence wouldn’t have stayed as just rumors the way they did in the comics. Allied agents would have been sent to research the material in order to gain any advantage possible against the Axis and a still undeveloped Wakanda be easily occupied to secure the world’s only source of vibranium.
The Allies wouldn’t even need any pretense of setting up democracy or anything. Both Iraq and Iran were invaded and occupied because of possible Axis leanings without any other explanation. Even after the war, it would be hard to see the UK, France, or the US even considering letting go of such a strategically important resource. They would find some way to squash Wakandan independence, even as the rest of Africa decolonized. The name T’Chaka would enter the public consciousness next to Patrice Lumumba as just another sad example of Western meddling in African affairs.

它不会进入现代的状态。
早在第二次世界大战时,人们就知道瓦坎达和它的振金,美国队长到那里去对付纳粹的入侵者。考虑到振金是那么万能,关于它存在的传闻不会像在漫画中那样只是谣言,盟军的特工将被派去研究这些材料,以获得任何可能来对抗轴心国的优势,而一个尚未开发的瓦坎达很容易被占领并夺走世界上唯一的振金资源。
盟军甚至不需要建立民主或其它任何借口,伊拉克和伊朗两个国家都曾因为轴心国倾向没有任何解释就被侵略和占领,即便是在战后,英国、法国或美国也很难考虑放弃如此重要的战略资源,即使非洲其他地区已经脱离了殖民统治,他们也会找到一些方法来压制瓦坎达,在公众意识里,T 'Chaka会和帕特里斯.卢蒙巴(刚果首任总理)差不多,这是西方干预非洲事务的又一个可悲的例子。

Lee Leavelle
This is a very interesting question, and Ill do my best to answer it.
Wakanda, as I recall, is a monarchic, technologically advanced society, with a rich supply of a rare material.
Russia, China and the US will openly try to both get them to become allies with them, as well as try to Wakanda against their opponents. However, considering the potential use of Vibranium I believe the following scenario likely.
Wakanda being a monarchy, NATO begins propaganda showing the “opressed” citizens of Wakanda. Organizing a coalition, they invade Wakanda on a mission of “liberation”. If they win, they divide Wakanda up, and drain it of resources like a vampire on a body. If they lose, well…Wakanda has the technology to run a large Empire like the US or Russia. Wakanda may push the advantage and take nearby lands and attack world superpowers. Thats another thing i forgot to add. Being the strongest power in Africa, it is also possible that Wakanda can forceful annex other African territories, or they wish to be added to Wakanda.
I Hope my answer satisfies you.

这是一个非常有意思的问题,我会尽力回答的。
我记得,瓦坎达是一个君主制的、技术先进的社会,拥有丰富的稀有原材料。
俄罗斯、中国和美国将试图让他们成为瓦坎达的盟友,并试图利用瓦坎达对抗他们的对手。
考虑到振金的潜在的用途,我认为有可能出现以下情况。
瓦坎达是一个君主制国家,北约开始宣传瓦坎达“被压迫的”公民,他们组织一个联盟,以“解放”民众的名义入侵了瓦坎达,如果他们赢了,他们就会把瓦坎达分割开来,然后像吸血鬼一样把资源消耗掉。
如果他们输了,好吧……那说明瓦坎达有技术经营一个像美国或俄罗斯这样的大帝国,瓦坎达可能会占据优势,占领附近的土地并攻击世界超级大国。
另一件我忘记补充的事:作为非洲最强大的力量,瓦坎达也有可能强行吞并其他非洲国家领土,或者他们希望并入到瓦坎达。
希望我的回答能够令你满意。

Mthobisi Zondi, works at U.S. Department of Education (2009-present)
The British or any European country or America would have colonised them and USA in particular would have dealt with the king the same way they dealt with the likes of Moumar Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein,
Just like the British and USA owns Goldmines in South Africa, they would be owning the Vibranium. I am pretty sure the Wakanda King would refuse to sell it to them so they would paint him as a terrorist who's building Vibranium weapon, just like they did to any leader of a country who has a natural resource they want.
For the people of Wakanda it would be too bad because US government would be waging wars after wars.
As for China n Russia I think they would be aiding these poor Wakandans after a great aftermath where children n women of Wakandans are left in savaged conditions after the American troops have killed their husband n fathers who were serving in the military.
Probably USA would be the most richest country in the world through blood n deaths of Wakandans like they are rich through the deaths of innocent world leaders, death of innocent women n children, death of their own solders who think they fighting for the right cause.

英国或任何欧洲国家或美国都会殖民他们,尤其是美国,他们会像对待穆马 · 卡扎菲,萨达姆 · 侯赛因那样以同样的方式对待瓦坎达。
就像英国和美国在南非拥有金矿一样,他们也将拥有振金,我非常确信瓦坎达国王会拒绝把它卖给他们,因此就像对待其他拥有他们想得到的资源的国家领导人一样,他们会把他描述成一个生产振金武器的恐怖分子。

对于瓦坎达人民来说,这太糟糕了,因为美国政府会不断发动战争。
至于中国和俄罗斯,我想他们将会在巨变之后对这些可怜的瓦坎达人进行援助,战后这里的妇女和儿童被遗弃在了野蛮的环境中,美国军队杀死了他们在军队服役的丈夫和父亲。 
也许美国将成为世界上最富有的国家,这建立在瓦坎达人的鲜血和死亡之上,就像他们的富有建立在无辜的世界领导人的死亡,建立在无辜妇女、儿童的死亡,建立在自己的士兵的死亡之上一样,他们的士兵们还天真的认为他们为正义事业而战。

Jakub Handlí, I'm a history enthusiast
It never would become that powerful and that rich.
Africa - and not only Africa - is filled with countries rich on resources that are very poor and corrupt. Why should Vibranium bring different future to Wakanda that oil, gold, diamonds etc. brought to other African countries that are rich on resources?

假如它真的存在,它绝对不会变的那样富有、那样强大。
非洲——不仅仅是非洲——充斥着资源丰富却贫穷、腐败的国家,石油、黄金、钻石等其他丰富资源没有给非洲国家带来一个更好的未来,凭什么认为振金会给瓦坎达带来不同的未来? 

Shahin Kordasti, studied Bachelor of Science in Computer Science
They would deal with Wakanda much like they deal with the Middle East. By overthrowing any installed government (be it Democratic or not) and instead install puppet governments which would then cause decades of violations of human rights, instability and future civil wars.
All while the superpowers would plunder its natural resources, namely Vibranium.

他们会像他们处理中东问题一样对付瓦坎达,通过推翻任何已存在的政府( 无论是否民主 ),取而代之以傀儡政府,这将导致数十年的人权侵犯、动荡不安、以及未来的内战。
所有的超级大国都将掠夺它的自然资源,也就是振金。

Darnel Cooper, Was a collector since childhood
We would be at war.
Seriously.
Looking at world history, when the French and English came across the Zulu tribe during their expansion period, they couldn’t stand the Zulu’s beating them with spears and shields and tactics that they couldn’t accept from “savages”. So what followed was loss after loss with exaggerated excuses for the losses, (Amount of ammo used in one battle that would’ve been hard for modern military units to lug to a fight let alone the British in the 1800’s.)
Wakanda would have been forced to destroy countries like Germany who would not stand for “inferiors” existing that they couldn’t control.
Sad but true. We have people on the planet who consider you a threat if you are too strong for them to push around, esp if they think it is their God given right to do so.
Imagine the US telling Wakanda that they can’t have weapons of mass destruction because America doesn’t trust them because they worship Baast instead of the Christian God?
Pfft. “We’d be at war”
And we would lose.

我们会陷入战争。
真的。
纵观世界历史,当法国人和英国人在他们的扩张期间遭遇祖鲁部落时,他们无法阻止祖鲁人用长矛,盾牌和和他们无法接受的“野蛮人”的战术打败他们,因此,接下来的是一次又一次的失败,并为失败寻找夸大其词的借口。( 统计一场战斗中使用的弹药量,对于现代军事组织来说都很难,更不用说19世纪的英国了。)
瓦坎达将被迫毁灭像德国这样的国家,这些国家不愿承认有一群他们无法控制的“ 劣等人”。
这样的描绘令人悲哀但是却是真实的,如果你强大到令他们无法摆布,特别是如果他们认为这是他们的上帝赋予的权利,我们这个星球上的人认为你是一个威胁。
想象一下美国告知瓦坎达,他们不能拥有大规模杀伤性武器,因为美国不信任他们,因为他们崇拜的是邪神而不是基督教的上帝。  
瓦坎达会说:啐,停,“ 那就开打吧 ”
我们会输的 。

I need to add:
People are answering this question like Wakanda wouldn’t be “advanced enough” to handle the world during WWII.
Don’t know where that came from,… they have existed in Comic Canon for THOUSANDS of years before ANY of the other Super powers existed and are written to ALWAYS be leaps and bounds ahead of outside civilization.
So they don’t need any essentials,… the best the world could offer is creature comforts and luxuries.

我要补充一点:
大家在回答这个问题时,总认为瓦坎达“ 不够先进”,无法通过二战来控制世界。
我不知道这种想法从何而来,在任何其他超级大国存在之前,漫画里的瓦坎达已经存在了数千年,而且被描述成以跨越式的发展速度超越领先外面的其他文明。
正如漫画中所描述的,瓦坎达不需要来自世界的任何东西,作为一种能量源泉的振金,比在漫威宇宙中地球上包括斯塔克科技在内的任何东西都更有能力,如果他们愿意,他们甚至不需要种植作物以生产食物。
所以他们不需要任何必需品,世界上能为他们提供的最好的东西也不过就是物质享受和奢侈品。

Dylan Erkel, lives in Trinidad and Tobago
There is a country in Africa called the Democratic Republic of the Congo. It has unimaginable amounts of mineral resources. It is one of the poorest countries in the world. Just because you have valuable materials doesn’t mean you advance independently of the rest of the world. Not only that, but the country is a dictatorship and doesn’t trade with the rest of the world, and they don’t let vibraniam out of the country. Pop quiz, why did Europe advance faster than the rest of the world? Luck, trading and gunpowder. Not because they had access to large amounts of rare and incredible recrources.

在非洲的一个国家叫做刚果民主共和国,它拥有着无法估量的矿物资源,它是世界上最贫穷的国家之一。
仅仅因为你拥有有价值的资源并不意味着你可以领先于世界其他地方,不仅如此,这个国家还是一个独裁国家,不与世界其他国家进行贸易往来,他们也不让这个国家的振金外流。
为什么欧洲比世界其他地方进步得更快? 运气,贸易和火药,不是因为他们能获得大量的稀有和不可思议的资源。

Matt Moore
If Wakanda existed in the real world well no one would want to pick a fight with them. The idea that they would have been conquered by the west is nonsense.
The easy way to explain why is to use a scientific advance that happened in both Wakanda and the real world that we have a date for the splitting of the atom. It was first done by Rutherford in 1917 we told Wakanda did it 100 years earlier in 1817. This means that Wakanda is at lest 100 years ahead of the rest of the world. This means the Europeans attempting to attack Wakanda in 1881 and 1914 would be going up against tech that the equivalent of modern day armies they be wiped out before they even realize that they are in a fight.
It gets even more of mismatch as time goes by as in current Marvel comics Wakanda is an interstellar empire and has been for sometime see Marvel Legacy.

如果瓦坎达真实存在于现实世界,没有人会愿意和他们打仗,他们会被西方征服的观点纯属无稽之谈。
原因很简单,比较一下瓦坎达和现实世界中发生科学进步的时间就知道了,我们首次进行原子分裂由卢瑟福在1917年完成的,而瓦坎达早在1817年就已经做到了,超越外部世界100年,这意味着,瓦坎达要比世界其他地方早100年发展出核武器,这意味着在1881年和1914年试图袭击瓦坎达的欧洲人等同于与今日的军事技术对抗,在他们没反应过来之前就被消灭了。
随着时间的推移,它会变得更加不可超越,在漫威的漫画中瓦坎达是一个星际帝国,并在某段时间 ( 秘密战争结束时的时间线修正 ) 被视为漫威宇宙的传奇。

Stokely Irion, Life is a big series of them
Warande in its entire history had never been conquered.
It didn't get involved with the rest of the world but it didn't let the world in either.
So if the fictional wakanda had existed in the real world, the same would have been true. The west would not have invaded it. It would have beaten back the Germans, and China and the US would know not to fuck with it.
If the fictional wakanda was as advanced as it was in the comics, it would have parked a nuclear sub in every very major river in China the US and Russia, ready to attack if need be.

瓦坎达在其整个历史上从未被征服过。
它没有参与到世界其他地方,但也没有让世界参与进来。
所以,如果虚构的瓦坎达真实存在在现实世界中,同样的情况也会发生,西方不会入侵它,它也许会击退德国人,而中国和美国则不会去干涉它。
如果虚构的瓦坎达像漫画中那样先进,它会把核潜艇停在中国、美国和俄罗斯的每一条主要河流上,如果需要的话,随时准备攻击。