quora网友:Johannessen先生,我明白你是个仇华者,我可以接受,但请不要在没有无可辩驳的证据的情况下,去诽谤一个国家。我们都用了很多中国制造的东西,我几乎想不到任何“质量低劣的产品”.......
Why does China produce so many low-quality, even potentially dangerous products?
为什么中国制造了这么多质量低劣,甚至存在潜在危险的产品?
Larry Park
Mr. Johannessen, Understand that you are a China hater, am ok with that, but please don't just slander a country without unquestionable evidence. We all use a lot of things made in China, I can hardly think of any " low quality" . The importers/customers/users in the world are not stupid, if something is bad, do you think they still buy it ? Nobody force you to buy Chinese products. Don't be slanderous , be honest
Johannessen先生,我明白你是个仇华者,我可以接受,但请不要在没有无可辩驳的证据的情况下,去诽谤一个国家。我们都用了很多中国制造的东西,我几乎想不到任何“质量低劣的产品”。全世界的进口商/消费者/用户又不傻,如果某件东西那么坏,你觉得他们还会去买吗?没有人强迫你购买中国的产品。不要满口咧咧,要诚实。
Marshall Gass, Roadside philosopher
China has a gigantic manufacturing base. To complement this base labour is cheap, technology is freely transferred, imitations are plentiful, raw material is also abundant, environment laws are ignored, prices are always negotiable, and products come out on production lines that turn out high end, and low end on the same production line.
The low end product with the poor raw material and chrome plated design is sold at a mouth watering price on the world market. This is how the price varies from high-end to low end. You can always negotiate the price.
China runs three shifts on the same line. The contracted goods with the correct price bracket goes into the best shift and the not so good product goes into the second line shift while the least favoured product takes the 3rd, night shift. Manning these shifts are people who are qualified according to quality of product. This will surprise many observers. Low end products are night shift workers. The production line never stops. It is always rumbling along.
Demand is created by excess of production. The low end products go to low end countries at low prices. It so happens that these countries cannot manufacture the same product at the same price. They have different technologies and pay rates and often no technology at all.
China always turned out crap. For years and years the little tin train never made it past Christmas day. I cant say the same today. It is so much better- but with the imitation technology that has now developed. That imitation technology is partly nicked from somewhere. They have little respect for intellectual property or patents. So… Low end or High end they will make it for you!
So many thousands of their products are better than world standard. Yet so many other thousands of their products are below third world standards but the price is the magnet that draws the customers in. Its always the price. The product must sell to keep the factories booming. People must have their jobs. The economy grows on this inflated price structure.
So there we have it. Want the top end or low -end? You can have both for the same price. Labour laws? What’s that? Intellectual Property? Who is checking? Dangerous goods? We all use it? Warranties, Guarantees? Its only paper! etc.etc.
Good luck.
Thanks for the A2A
中国拥有庞大的制造业基地。除了制造基地之外,它的劳动力成本低廉,技术自由转让,仿制品丰富,原材料丰富,环保法规被忽视,价格总是可以商量,高端和低端产品出自同一条生产线。
他们的低端产品是采用糟糕的原材料生产的,拥有光鲜的外观设计,以让人垂涎的价格在世界市场出售。这就是高端产品和低端产品的价格差别为什么那么大。你总是可以讨价还价。
中国在同一条生产线上实行三班制。由最好的班组负责生产价格等级合适的正规合同的货物,二线班组生产不太好的产品,而三线班组在夜间生产最差的产品。根据产品的合格率,来衡定工人的资质水平,进而确定他们进入哪个班组。生产线永不停歇,一直发出工作的轰鸣。
过剩的生产带来了需求。低端产品以低价销往低端国家。碰巧这些国家无法以同样的价格生产同样的产品。他们的技术和工资差异很大,而且通常根本没有技术可言。
中国总是生产垃圾产品。很多年来,(中国造的)小铁皮火车从来没有管过圣诞节。我不敢说现在还是这样,情况已经大为改观——但他们是凭借模仿那些发展到现在的技术才实现了这种改观。那些模仿的技术在一定程度上是别国技术的残缺版。他们不尊重知识产权或者专利,所以……无论低端产品还是高端产品,他们都能给你造出来!
他们成千上万的产品都超出了世界标准。然而,也有其他成千上万的产品低于第三世界的标准,但价格是吸引顾客的磁铁。价格总是决定因素。这种产品必须畅销才能使工厂兴旺起来。人们必须有自己的工作。中国的经济增长依赖于这种膨胀的价格结构。
这样我们就有了结论。想要高端还是低端产品?用同样的价格,两种产品都可能买到。劳动法?什么东东?知识产权?谁来管?危险的产品?我们都在用吗?质保?只在纸面上!等等。
祝你好运!
谢谢邀请!
David Levy, Living and working in China since 1986
A sincere answer, but I feel there are some inaccuracies which can be addressed. The following are either stated or implied in this answer. Here are my comments on them:
CHINA IS A MONOLITHIC ENTITY
The “China does this” and “China does that” narrative cannot be accurate. There are millions of factories, big and small, govt. owned and private, joint vendor and sole proprietorship, high tech and low, etc. etc. “China” does not run 3 shifts on the same line, nor does “China” turn out junk. Individual factories may do so, but I don't think enough to make such generalizations.
DEMAND CREATED BY OVERPRODUCTION / EXCESS PRODUCTS SOLD CHEAP TO NON-MANUFACTURING COUNTRIES
What would be the incentive for an individual manufacturing organization to over produce? Of course it can happen as a result of poor planning, but they have no good reason to do it as a policy. Also, since your answer also claims that these overproduced products are sold cheap to countries that cannot make them competitively, aren't you saying that the demand is created by those counties? And if those cheap products are made to meet market demand at a certain price point, then how can you call it overproduction? Almost every Chinese factory exists to make a profit (there are probably a few corner cases in military or high-tech, but generally this is the case.)
CHINA HAS LAX LABOR LAWS (OR INDUSTRIAL SAFETY LAWS, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION LAWS, ETC.)
China's labor laws (and their enforcement) is not weak at all. As a factory leader I can tell you that labor law enforcement (and especially industrial safety) is taken very seriously. There is training for all concerned, qualifications, government audits, etc. If there are accidents managers and owners can be fined or imprisoned, and local government officers can be punished for allowing it to happen. And no, you cannot easily make infractions "go away" with red packet.
这是个真诚的回答,但我觉得有些不准确的地方可以纠正。
“中国是一个整体。”
“中国如何如何”的说法根本不准确。中国有数以百万计的工厂,有大有小,有政府所有的,有私人的,有合资的,有独资的,有高科技的,有低技术的等等。“中国”并非都是在同一条生产线上三班倒,“中国”也并非都在生产垃圾产品。个别工厂可能会这样做,但我认为那不足以让你做出这样的概括。
David Levy, Living and working in China since 1986
Why do China produce so many low-quality, even potentially dangerous such as electronics catching fire or bikes falling apart, products?
[EDIT 5/2/18 Summary: China produces many products, at all quality levels, but only the problems make news. Importers need do their homework with regards to vendor sextion, technical communication, and quality assurance.]
There are several reasons why many associate China with poor quality, which I summarize as follows:
sextion Bias 1: China makes lots of stuff, from high-end to low, so lots of low-quality stuff comes out of China along with the good stuff. But the high quality stuff is ignored because it’s not “news”.
sextion Bias 2: Because low-quality/low-cost production trends toward high-volume/low-cost, the amount of low-quality stuff on the market dwarfs the volume of high-quality stuff. The sample sizes self-sext.
Product Specification Issues: Sometimes, buyers specify poor quality or low reliability in order to save money, or because they don’t know better. Safety issues are often resultant (although I argue they do not always need to do so. Quality issues in low-cost goods can often be mitigated by best practices. That’s another rant for another answer.)
Vendor qualification Issues: Buyers sometimes don’t want to pay the cost of verifying that the goods they purchase meet their quality requirements. They don’t expend the resources required to ensure their factory employs best practices, and has a reputation for accountability. They spend time choosing the product and establishing a price level, but will spend no time choosing the vendor. The truth is that some Chinese manufacturers have adopted “low quality” or “unsafe” production as a business model.
Now, I work in Electronics, manufacturing power supplies in China that do not catch fire. I can assure you that if I produced bicycles here, I would employ the appropriate procedures and processes, ensuring that the bikes would not fall apart.
I can also tell you that I have purchased large quantities of Chinese-made components both mechanical and electronic, and that it is 100% possible to get high-quality, safe products, if you are willing to do your product and vendor qualification.
On a personal level, I have been using many Chinese phones (Huawei) and many Chinese Bicycles (Giant, others). None of my Chinese phones or chargers has ever caught fire, and none of my Chinese bikes has ever fallen apart.
[编辑于5/2/18的总结:中国生产了很多产品,覆盖了所有质量级别,但只有问题产品才会上新闻。进口商需要在供应商选择、技术交流和质量保证方面做足功课。]
许多人之所以把中国与劣质联系在一起,有几个原因,我总结如下:
选择偏差1:中国制造了从高端到低端的很多东西,所以很多质量低劣的东西都是中国制造的,还有好东西。但是高质量的东西被忽略了,因为它不是“新闻”。
选择偏差2:因为低质量/低成本的生产会趋向于高产量/低成本,市场上低质量产品的数量让高质量产品的数量相形见绌。这是样本数量的自我选择。
产品规格问题:有时候,买家为了省钱,或因为他们不知道更好的产品,而指定质量差或可靠性低的产品。安全问题往往是这样产生的(尽管我认为他们并不总是需要这样做。低成本产品的质量问题通常可以通过最佳范例来缓解。但这是另一个答案的解释了。)
供应商资格问题:买家有时不愿意支付检验费用,所以不知道他们购买的商品是否符合质量要求。他们没有花费必要的资源,来确保他们的工厂使用最佳实践,并且拥有可以问责的声誉。他们花时间去选择产品和建立价格水平,但没有花时间选择供应商。事实是,一些中国制造商把“低质量”或“不安全”的生产作为赚钱的方式。
现在,我在电子产品领域工作,在中国制造不会着火的电源。我可以向你保证,如果我在中国生产自行车,我会采取适当的程序和流程,确保自行车不会散架。
我还可以告诉你,我采购过中国制造的大量机械和电子元件,如果你愿意对你的产品和供应商做资格审查,100%可能得到质量高而且安全的产品。
就我个人而言,我一直在用很多中国手机(华为)和很多中国自行车(捷安特等)。我的中国手机和充电器都没有着火过,我的中国自行车也都没有摔坏过。
Derek Harkness, Living and working in China since 2006.
You’re looking at it from the wrong end. You should be asking, why do US (I’m assuming the OP is American) importers and merchants buy so many low-quality, even potentially dangerous, products.
The fact that they come from China is really neither here nor there. It happens to be China that is their favourite source just now. When I was young, the goods would be labelled Made in Taiwan, made in Hong Kong. Before that, my parents remember when made in Japan was the mark of cheap tat.
It really doesn’t matter where it comes from. The fact is, there are many companies set up, whose purpose is to sell crap. They know it is crap. These companies focus on the marketing and advertising to create an image of a fabulous product. Often they use a form of distance selling, such as TV shopping channels or Amazon, so you can’t view the quality for yourself. Or sometimes they sell cheap electronics with a nice box so you can’t know how badly formed the circuitry is inside. If you could actually try it out, you wouldn’t buy it.
How do you avoid buying the garbage? Just don’t fall for the marketing. If someone has a truly great product, they don’t need to advertise it. If someone is working very hard to sell you something, then you have to ask why? The harder someone is marketing at you, the more you have to reject. Anything on a TV infomercial is highly suspect. It is usually worth opting for the quality item rather than the discount item. You’ll have to pay a bit more, but it will be worth it in the long run.
Where I live, in China, people don’t buy these junk items if they can help it. The disposable economy hasn’t taken off here as it has in the west. People expect things to last a reasonable length of time. They don’t buy more than they really need and if they can’t afford to buy a good version, then they will do without rather than accept substandard goods.
It is worth remembering that China doesn’t only produce cheap rubbish. It also produces some of the highest quality items you might care to purchase. You mobile phone, computer and TV might very well be made in China. Many of the parts inside your “made in the US” goods were likely sourced from China too.
Your iPhone was made in Shenzhen, China, by Foxconn.
Prada, Nike and Adidas shoes made by Dongguan Stella Footwear Co. in China.
Armani Jeans are made in China.
Coach bags are made in China.
The famous British fashion brand Burberry relocated its factories to East Asia, including China.
These aren’t fakes or cheap knock-offs. These are the genuine articles. Your top quality designer brand goods are made right next door to that cheap USB adapter you bought off eBay for $2.95.
你这样提问是在缘木求鱼。你应该问:“为什么美国(假设题主是美国人)的进口商和商人买了这么多质量低劣、甚至可能有毒的产品?”
这些产品的来源地是中国其实无关紧要。中国只不过是他们目前最青睐的商品产地。当我年轻的时候,那些货物的标签可能是台湾制造和香港制造。在那之前,我的父母记得那时候“日本制造”是廉价的标志。
它的产地真的无关紧要。实施在于,有很多公司设立起来的目的就是出售垃圾产品。他们知道那些产品是垃圾。这些公司专注于营销和广告,以创造一个神话般的产品形象。他们经常采用远程销售的方式,如电视购物频道或亚马逊,这样你自己就看出产品的质量。或者有时候他们卖的是用漂亮盒子装起来的廉价的电子产品,所以你不知道里面的电路有多糟糕。如果你能试一试,你就不会买了。
如何避免买垃圾?不要对营销信以为真。如果某人的产品真的很好,他们就不需要做广告。如果有人非常努力地向你推销某样东西,你就得问个为什么?他们推销得越卖力,你就越应该拒绝。电视购物广告上的任何东西都十分可疑。通常情况下,质量好的商品比打折的商品更加值得选择。你可能会多花点钱,但从长远来看还是值得的。
值得记住的是,中国不仅生产廉价的垃圾。它也生产一些你可能想要购买的高质量产品。你的手机、电脑和电视很可能是中国制造的。你的“美国制造”产品中的许多零部件也可能来自中国。
你的iPhone手机是中国深圳的富士康生产的。
普拉达、耐克和阿迪达斯是中国东莞的史黛拉鞋业有限公司制造的。
阿玛尼牛仔系列是中国制造的。
蔻驰包是中国制造的。
英国着名时尚品牌巴宝莉将工厂迁至包括中国在内的东亚各国。
这些都不是假货或廉价的仿制品,而是正品。生产顶级设计师品牌商品的工厂,与生产廉价USB适配器(在eBay上花2.95美元就可以买到)的工厂比邻而居。
Jarome Matthew
"The harder someone is marketing at you, the more you have to reject. " important point and good for everyone to remember.
After a long search for many years, I recently bought a pair of Chinese headphones. They are much better than anything I used from pro audio companies liken AKG Sure and Sennheiser. This was a shock to me but it's a fact. With good QC and management China can produce quality. But without, China is now used to making things cheaply as possible because that's what's in demand
“他们推销得越卖力,你就越应该拒绝。”这一点很重要,对每个人都有益,值得记住。
经过多年的寻找,我最近买了一副中国的耳机。它们比我使用过的来自任何专业音频公司的产品,如AKG Sure和Sennheiser,都要好得多。这让我很震惊,但这是事实。有了良好的质量控制和管理,中国可以生产出高质量的产品。但如果如果没有,中国现在就习惯于以尽可能低的成本生产产品,因为这正是需求所在。
Derek Harkness
I agree with your initial point. You can often get good items from unknown brands and famous brands often sit back on their reputation to shift products. There’s been plenty of cases in history where the market leaders got overturned by a new entrant. I’m old enough to remember when Sony was an unknown Japanese.
However, your final point that China has got used to manufacturing cheap is incorrect. You’re only seeing the Chinese products filtered through what is imported/exported. There is a strong domestically led drive in China for better and better quality goods. Of course, those higher quality items aren’t getting exported to the US.
For example, when I quiz my students in China about what are the largest companies in the world, they often name Haier. Who is Haier? It is a electronics and white goods manufacturer formerly known as Qingdao Refrigerator Co.
Qingdao Refrigerator Co. had a reputation for producing crap. I had one of their fridges. I think I must have been lucky, cause mine lasted reasonably well, but they were famous for breaking.
Today, re-branded as Haier, the company has built a reputation in China for good quality goods. Go into many homes and you’ll see a Haier fridge, air conditioner, or washing machine.
However, Haier isn’t one of the largest companies in the world. Outside Asia, Haier is practically unknown. Though in 2016, Haier did acquire GE Appliances for $5.6 billion dollars, so they are now advancing into the US market.
Chris Russell, spends all day on a motorbike, terrorising cars and making some people happy.
i once worked at a place making tungsten carbide tools.
you know, those teeth that you see on earth moving equipment, and on the augers they use to drill holes for pilings and power poles?
so.
we got a lot from china. cheap.
we could get a bucket full of them and drop them on the floor, and over half of the carbide inserts would pop off. really robust. like thats going to take being slammed into a rock.
the company claimed an acceptable reject ratio of 20%.
we aimed for a reject ratio of 0.5%, and any that were rejected WE went and repaired. the customer almost never got a reject.
so many people thought they would cut out the middleman and order their teeth direct from china…. then they had to sheepishly front up to us and get us to rebraze each and every one of them. costing them more than if they had just bought directly from us in the first place.
for us, it saved machining costs, and material costs. it was economically viable to use the cheaper chinese ones, reworked for clients.
nothing wrong with the steel or carbide used, but the brazing was definitely sub par.
china will make something as cheaply as the company ordering it will accept.
they will also, at the same time, if paid to do so, actually produce some seriously decent stuff.
but noone wants to buy it. why? when you can buy something that is half, a quarter of the price and looks just the same?
but after you have bought ten of something, it has now cost you more than if you had just bought one, well made item in the first place.
我曾经在一个制造硬质合金工具的地方工作。
你知道,就是那些推土设备上的齿轮、用来为埋桩和电线杆钻洞的螺纹钻。
所以。
我们从中国进口了很多东西。很便宜。
如果我们把满满一桶那种零件倒在地上,其中超过一半的碳化物会脱落。真是坚固啊,就像被摔在石头上一样。
那家公司声称可以接受的废品率是20%。
而我们要求的废品率是0.5%,遇到任何被拒收的产品,我们都会去修理。而我们的顾客几乎从未收到一个废品。
有很多人觉得他们可以省去中间商环节,直接从中国订购齿轮……然后他们不得不羞答答的来到我们面前,让我们对每一个产品再次钎焊。这种做法比他们第一时间直接从我们这里购买花费更高。
对我们而言,这种做法节约了加工成本和材料成本。用更便宜的中国产品,进行再加工,再卖给客户,在经济上是可行的。
(中国产品)使用的钢或者碳化物没什么问题,但钎焊肯定没有达到标准。
中国会把产品做得跟订购产品的公司可以接受的一样便宜。
同时,如果货款足够多的话,他们也能真正制造一些真正体面的东西。
但没人会买。为什么?当你可以用一半、甚至四分之一的价格买到一件看起来一样的东西的话,为什么要花高价呢?
但当你买到十件那种产品,它的成本就会比你一开始就买一件制造精良的东西高。
John Smith
Does china produce low quality goods?YES.But why does people still buy things from china?It really confuse me.Since you already know chinese goods mean poor quality,your people can just get rid of it very easily.
But the truth is your people can’t,right?You are eager to buy stuff (here is the point)CHEAP!we just produce those things to fulfill your need.If you pay us more money ,we can definetly give you something nice.
中国生产了质量低劣的产品吗?是的,但为什么人们依然从中国买东西呢?这真让我迷惑。既然你们已经知道中国产品意味着质量低劣,那你们可以十分轻易的摆脱它。
但真相是你们做不到,不是吗?你们渴望买便宜货(这是关键)!我们制造那些东西是为了满足你们的需求。如果你们给我们更多钱,我们肯定能给你们更好的东西。
Edison Wu, PH.D from Baruch College
Companies: Hi! I wanted to buy 20,000 cups. How much is the bulk price?
China: That will be 20 cents each
Companies: can the price be a bit lower?
China: sorry! It’s the lowest we can offer
Companies: give me 15 cents each and I will sign the contract
China: If the price is 15 cent we will not earn any profit
Companies: Then I will be leaving
China: Wait! We have a way, but it will effect the quality
Companies: How bad will it effect the quality?
China: Well! Instead of using our standard plastic we can substitute for recycled plastic. The durability will be lower.
Companies: DEAL!
And that is the story of how Dollar Tree and General Dollar became a chain and making billions. Never underestimate the power of nickels and pennies
公司:嗨!我想买2万个杯子。这个号的杯子多少钱?
中国:每个20美分。
公司:价格能低一点吗?
中国:对不起!这是最低价了。
公司:每个15美分,咱们就签合同。
中国:如果价格是15美分,我就没有利润了。
公司:那我可走了。
中国:等等!我们有办法,但是会影响到质量。
公司:对质量的影响有多大?
中国:额,我们可以不用标准塑料,而是用再生塑料。寿命可能会短一点。
公司:成交!
这就是美国的一元店如何开连锁店,并且赚走数十亿美元的故事。永远不要低估几分几毛的力量。
Soon Teik Ong, former Investment Banker
There are many products produced which are also good quality items. Unfortunately it’s the poor quality ones which most people can afford whether in China or outside of China. And also it’s more sensational for Western press to write news of products that catch fire or explode etc (actually the most infamous exploding product is Korea’s Samsung phone) rather than the ones that just don’t produce such sensational newsworthy outcomes. So you won’t read much about how good are some of the China products. That kind of news doesn’t sell newspapers.
中国有很多工厂也能生产质量很好的产品。不幸的是无论是中国还是外国,大多数人只负担得起劣质产品。而对于西方媒体而言,相对于普通产品而言,对于起火或者爆炸之类的产品的报道(实际上最为臭名昭着的爆炸产品是韩国的三星手机)更具有轰动效应。所以人们看不到太多关于中国产品如何好的新闻。那种新闻不会让报纸大卖。
Callan Chua, Been Learning how to make it in China for the past 10 years.
China produces so many low-quality products due to the western concept of capitalism and democracy.
Why? Capitalism is an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state. And democracy is a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.
So based on the western concept of these 2 ideology, the elected states representatives shall not intervene in the free market despite them being sponsored by these capitalist who are also part of the population.
And since these capitalist are supposed to be profit driven, they WILL go for maximum profit since in a free market, there is no need for any accountability.
To totally show you how real this is, I will share a real life experience.
In my younger years, I was a purchaser for a Furniture company in Singapore. It is part of my job to follow my boss to China on his purchasing trips. One of the things he will often do is to purchase a piece of furniture which he thinks will sell well from Europe and have it ship to a co-operating factory in China. We will then visit the factory after a replicate of the furniture is produced.
Normally, I’m not involved in the bargaining of prices with the factory as this is done between my boss and the factory owner. It just so happens that on this one trip, my boss allowed me to sit in during one of such bargaining sessions.
In this case, the product is a set of leather sofa (3+2 seater) from Italy which my boss bought for about USD 4000. The factory owner offer to replicate the sofa at RMB 5000 (about USD 700 at the time) per set using the exact same materials and dimensions. After some thought, my boss asked if this be done at RMB 2500. The factory owner took out a calculator and after pushing some buttons, said yes, but some changes to specifications have to be made. The sofa would be have to be 10cm smaller on both the width and depth, leather would not be the same (would not be using top grain leather), sponge density would also need to be lessen, reduce by 2 set of spring per seat, rubber belting has to be of inferior quality and the wooden frx will be using southern china timber instead of nothern pine. For the less technical inclined, it simply means that the quality would be reduced drastically.
My boss thought for awhile, and asked again, what can be done for RMB 2000? The factory owner again starts to punch on his calculator and again came up with a set of different specs. After some rounds of exchange, the final amount comes to RMB 1400 for a set of the sofa.
Later I asked my boss why he choosed this specs at this price. He said that it’s what the market demands, consumers are very visual when it comes to retail purchases. The point is to make it as similar as the original visually at the lowest price. If he cannot do this, someone else would be doing the same thing as he did after he introduced this design to the market. So why wait for them to do it? He would want to take up the biggest market share for this product as fast as he could at the best profit that the market allows before others jump on the band wagon.
I was in awe at the ingenuity of the factory owner and the shrewdness of my boss at that time. I later found out that it’s the same wherever you go, in China or anywhere in the world be it India, Vietnam, thailand or any developing country.
Did the factory owner lie or cheat anyone? Nope. He was very upfront in his dealings with my boss. My boss (the capitalist) is the one who decides on what he actually wants, pricing over quality, despite the fact that he is already getting more bang for his buck at RMB 5000. And he is just conforming to market force as a businessman, just like the factory owner is conforming to the needs of my boss as a factory.
So my point here is this, if you as a consumer is ready to pay for more and would rather do so for better quality, you can influence the capitalist to sell more quality products. They would not want to sell low quality products if there is no market for it. AND quality must come at a price.
Thankfully, China is not fully capitalist in the western sense and their population understands what they are paying for. They normally don’t buy these Cheap (poor quality) products.
中国制造如此多的质量低劣的产品,是由于资本主义和民主的西方理念。
为什么?资本主义是一种经济和政治制度,其中一个国家的贸易和工业由追求利润的私营企业主控制,而不是由国家控制。而民主是一种国家的全体人口或所有合格的成员统治的制度,(这种统治)通常是通过选举出来的代表实现。
所以根据这两种意识形态的西方理念,选举出来的国家代表不应该干涉自由经济,尽管他们受到那些资本家赞助,后者也是老百姓的一部分。
而且由于那些资本家应该是受到利润的驱动,他们会追求最大的利润,因为在自由经济中,不需要负担任何责任。
为了向你彻底的展示这种说法是多么真实,我要分享一段真实的生活经历。
在我年轻时代,我是一家家具公司在新加坡的采购员。跟着我的老板去中国做采购,是我工作职责的一部分。他经常做的一件事,就是采购一件他认为会在欧洲卖的好的加剧,并把它通过航运送到位于中国的一家合作厂家。然后,等到那家工厂做出那件家具的复制品,我们就会去拜访那家工厂。
通常,我不会参与到与那家工厂的讨价还价之中,因为这是我的老板和那家工厂的老板之间的事情。碰巧的是,在某一次旅行中,我的老板允许我在这样的谈判会议中坐下来。
在这项交易中,产品是我老板从意大利以4000美元买到的一套真皮沙发(3+2座)。那家工厂的老板给那套沙发的复制品的报价是5000元人民币(当时大约是700美元),采用完全相同的材料和规格。在经过一些思考之后,我老板问:“是否能做到2500元?”工厂老板拿出一个计算器,摁了一些按钮之后,他说:“可以,但是需要变动一些规格。”沙发的长度和宽度都要短10cm,皮料也要变(将不会采用头层皮),海面密度也要降低,每个座位减少2套弹簧,橡胶带必须用质量差的,而且木质框架将采用中国南方的木材,而不是北方的松木。由于技术含量较少,直接意味着产品质量会急剧下降。
我的老板想了一下,又问了一句:“怎样才能降到2000元?”工厂老板再次开始按他的计算器,并且再次给了一套不同的规格。经过几轮交换之后,一套沙发的最终价格变成1400元。
之后我问老板:“为什么会选择这个价格的参数?”他说:“这是市场的要求,消费者在零售采购的时候是非常直观的。”关键在于把产品以最低的价格做的与原版相似。如果他做不到这一点,当他把这款设计引入市场,别人会做同样的事情。所以为什么要等别人做呢?他想在其他人加入市场竞争之前,尽快让这款产品占领最多的市场份额,这样就可以赚到最大的利润。
Sunshine Sun
No. IT is BUSINESS sense. You get what you pay for ! More Legal…” Caviet Umptor” or “ Let the Buyer Beware”.
不。这是商业的意义。一分钱一分货!更学术的说法是:“购物要当心”
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