你后悔移居到美国吗? [美国媒体]

quora网友:我后悔搬到美国去。我很后悔离开(我的祖国)这个国家,在那里(我的祖国),你认识谁,你的家人认识谁,你的肤色是什么,你属于哪个部落,你要贿赂多少钱,等等,这些事情决定着你的未来;而在美国,以上所有这些都不算数........

Do you regret moving to the USA?

你后悔移居美国吗 ?



Sofjan Yang Mustopoh
I regret moving to America.I regret moving away from a country where who you know, who your family knows, what your skin color is, what tribe you belong to, and how much money you have to bribe determines your future; to America where none of the above count.I regret moving away from a country where Mob rules (Democracy means what ever majority says goes. ) to America where private right of the individual matter.I regret moving from a country where speaking out against the government would make you miss your family for a long time; to America where speaking out against the government is normal occurrence.I regret moving to America where I could start out as a University dropout, working odd jobs for 8 years. Owned a hole in the wall Chinese restaurant. Went bankrupt. Enrolled in a beauty college and obtained my Nail technician license. Worked my tail off, saved enough money. Enrolled in University of Kentucky. Got my bachelor of science in Computer science. Worked but unsatisfied .Re-enrolled in University of Kentucky. Took PCAT and got accepted into pharmacy school. And now I have been a Pharm. D. and have worked in a hospital for 8 years.I regret moving to America where I started out washing dishes and ended up on the top 10 percentile.I missed my home country food and fruits.It took me many years to ascend the ladder from Dishwasher, Construction worker, grocery van driver, Korean rest cook apprentice, Sushi apprentice, failed Chinese restaurant, Nail technician making ladies hand prettier , Computer scientist and now Pharmacy doctor / Pharmacist.But I have NOT regretted my move to USA.Zero regret !Now go back and insert “DO NOT” right before regret above.

回答一:
我后悔搬到美国去.
我很后悔离开(我的祖国)这个国家,在那里(我的祖国),你认识谁,你的家人认识谁,你的肤色是什么,你属于哪个部落,你要贿赂多少钱,等等,这些事情决定着你的未来;
而在美国,以上所有这些都不算数.



Moe Ahmed
Do I regret it? Of course I do! More than anything in the world.As the other person answered, US could be a heaven and could be a hell, depending on how lucky you are!For me, I came to US back in 2006, I was filled with dreams like Sofjan which for the most part were fine, until I woke up on the most terrible nightmare a person can dream of!I came as a software engineer in Microsoft. Was a completely law abiding citizen who didn’t do anything wrong at all not even a parking ticket, got married to someone from my home country (Egypt) and brought her with me to US in 2009Spent a couple of years with her until I got my green card in 2011, my financial life started to go down the drain because she was spending much more than I was making, started to stack debt and moving between jobs, until in January 22 2012, I was coming home back after a fight that she wanted to start and I just left because I didn’t want to fight and I came back, found police waiting for me, got arrested, thrown in jail, found that I am charged with trying to kill her, trying to kill my son, using weapons on them and torturing her for 3 years!I later received a bail of $250K (which usually us placed only on murder suspects in WA, but I was one of the few lucky ones to receive it on a misdemeanor case) and was released a week later when my friends collected the bail from each others (and they were all common friends between me and my ex-wife who would have never paid a single dime if any of her accusations sound true)Someone may say “but there were evidence for that, right?” ZIP! Not a single evidence! Even police reports stated clearly there was no sign of anything from her claims, but welcome to US and welcome to WA state!Later on, I went out to find that she cleared my bank account, took over my apartment (which I bought prior to our marriage), took my car, and I became homeless and jobless, just like that! And on the top of that, I was not allowed to go within 1 mile of my son and they enforced that by adding a GPS device on my ankle that required me to stay at a certain address for at least half of each day!I spent a couple of months in this mess, prosecutors tried to offer me a deal that I just say I am guilty and I will receive no jail time and nothing except maybe some classes and I kept refusing because I did nothing at all and they kept offering more stuff because they didn’t have a case! I had more than 70 witness on my side, I had actual PHYSICAL EVIDENCE that proves her lies and none of that mattered! Until one day, I receive a call from my sister in law that my ex was in accident and she needed my help and as an idiot, I called and texted her multiple times and I became in violation of the “no contact order” and next day, I went to the police station, gave myself up, thought that I was in that “dreamy” country Sofjan was talking about were the only thing mattered is justice and guess what? I was charged with like 30 different charges with the ability of adding 100 more and the probability of receiving a jail sentence of about 130 years! Yup, you heard it right, 130 years for making phone calls and texts to make sure my ex-wife and son were alright!I then spent 9 months in jail, during that time, I was not allowed to see my son although the court gave me that right, so I filled a case with the court, the court notified me to send the case documents to my ex directly because I was PRO SE (means I was working on my case myself without a lawyer) and they even gave me a forwarding address to send the docs to.So I followed the court orders to the letter, forwarded a copy from the case docs to that address from the jail system, and guess what? I Was charged AGAIN for violation of no contact order on a felony basis this time which could send me to jail for 10 years (2 cases and each one carry 5 years max), my new lawyer was pulling her hair off because according to the law, what I did was not a violation by any mean, everyone in the court room, including the judge herself, was saying “where is the violation?” and there was nothing!A couple of weeks later, the senior prosecutor came back from him vacation, went to my lawyer and basically told her “we had no case, but we can’t release him otherwise he will sue us, so I have an offer for you. He needs to let go of his green card and leave the country and I will drop all charges”! Just complete and basic blackmail! I did that, and just after I left the country, they filed 4 violations for violating my release conditions and leaving the country without permissions and filed 4 warrants for my arrest!Does it end there? Of course not! My ex-wife died in a terrible accident in 2015 (call it Karma) and I found out that she was married to someone who she was in a relationship with since 5th of January of 2012 (yes, before sending me to jail which all clicked of why she did that) and I just sent him a single message on facebook that maybe it’s better to send my son to me now that his mother is dead and he is not his biological father, and guess what? I was charged with a felony of “cyber stalking” !!So now not only I can’t come back to US, but my entire life outside US is fucked because there are so many jobs and countries I cant go to because technically, I have warrants and ongoing cases against me in US, and I can’t even come back to US to fight these charges because they won’t give me the visa to do that!This is USA, the land of justice and dreams :)



后来,我出来后,发现她洗空了我的银行账户,
接管了我的公寓(那是我结婚前买的),
开走了我的车,
我就这样无家可归,失业了!

最重要的是,我不可以靠近我儿子一英里范围内.
警察在我的脚踝上强行安装了一个GPS设备,
要求我每天至少在一个特定的地址呆上半天!

这个麻烦事耗了我几个月的时间,检察官试图让我认罪,说什么只要我认罪,
他们可以免去我的牢狱之灾,但是,我拒绝了,因为我什么都没有做过!
他们不断地诱导我认罪,因为他们根本就没有证据!
而我则有70个以上的证人站在我这一边,我还有实物证据证明前妻说谎!
但是,这些都不被检察官采纳!

直到有一天,我嫂子给我打了个电话,告诉我前妻出了事故,她需要我的帮助.
作为一个白痴,我给她打电话、发短信好多次,然后我就违反了“不得接触的法令”.
第二天,我就到警察局去澄清这些事情,我以为我是在“梦幻”的国家里,
Sofjan谈论所谓的这个国家唯一重要的事情是正义,

你们猜猜结果是怎么着?
我被指控了30项不同的罪名,有潜力可能再犯100项罪名,
并且有可能被判130年监禁!
是的,你没听错,130年!打电话发短信确认我前妻和儿子的安好,就是130年!



Sara Angell
I sympathize with you.And I know that police and the whole legal system is fucked. I too was falsely arrested for assault and then continued to get violations of no contact orders. I was lucky and got off on all of them, but it is so easy for this to haunt a person.Exactly as you describe, they will release you and then make you continue to show up at court dates to “check in" and it so happens that sometimes 1 year down the road, you can't make it back to court.Then there are warrants and new charges.This sucks. I am sorry to hear of these struggles.I hate the US too man and I was born here.

评论:
我同情你.
我知道(美国的)警察和整个法律体系都完蛋了.
我也因为人身攻击而被错误逮捕过,然后被限制令限制了.
我很幸运地摆脱了这一切,但是,美国的司法非常容易地困住人的.

正如你所描述的,他们会释放你,但是会要求你在规定日必须到法庭来“签到”.
有时,你的案件会拖个一年半载,你是无法决定什么时候了结自己的案子的.

然后,他们还有搜查令,不断地提出新的指控.
(美国司法)很恶心的.
听到你的遭遇,我很难过. 我也很讨厌美国,兄,我可是地道的美国人.



Anonymous
Yes, I do. For subjective and objective reasons, it is not a good country to live. I won't go into personal details as to why I regret moving here, but I will list some of the objective facts as to why I do not recommend anyone to move here. You can easily look these up for yourself.It's a country where people live to work, for a measly two weeks of vacation a year that is mostly used for sick days or family related issues.It's a country that doesn't give a rat's ass about the welfare of its people - look at the broken, overpriced healthcare system, little to no public transportation, no paid maternity leave, overpopulated prisons.It's a country where education, instead of lifting people up, drags them down into debt. Useless degrees are promoted and sold to students (think of Women's Studies and Communications). The student debt bubble is thought to be the cause of an upcoming recession.It's a country where the government cares so little about the health of its nation, but so much about big business. Agricultural business is subsidized, making unhealthy food cheap and abundant and healthy food unaffordable for most people. This results in obese, unhealthy people. The typical American diet full of processed carbs and sedentary lifestyle caused by cubicle jobs and constant need for car riding result in sickness.And let's not forget how expensive it is to be sick in America. You cannot know the cost of any procedure: all hospitals keep it secret until you visit a doctor, driving prices up. Even if you're insured, it is very common for insurance companies to deny coverage (even if your policy actually covers it) in hopes that you'll give up fighting for it, or die before you can get the necessary treatment. Consider also that most people don't have money to pay for a lawyer to fight the insurance company. To illustrate how expensive healthcare is, remember that most bankruptcy cases are caused by medical bills.Personally, my main concern is the healthcare system. With the demands of the American workplace, it is a challenge to keep a healthy lifestyle. In addition, it is very expensive to eat healthy. And getting sick is even more expensive. It's a rat race lifestyle, and if you value your mental and physical health, please do not move here.

回答三:
是的,我后悔. 原因既有客观的,也有主观的.
美国并不是个适合生活的国家.

我不会详细说明为什么我后悔搬到这里来,但我会列出一些客观事实,
说明为什么我不建议任何人搬到这里来.
你们可以很容易地自己去验证我所说的.

这是一个人们为了工作而生活的国家,每年只有两周的假期,
这些假期几乎只够你偶尔上医院,或处理一些家庭琐事.



此外,健康饮食是非常昂贵的。生病的代价则更大。
这是一种老鼠的生活方式,如果你重视自己的身心健康,请不要搬到这里来。

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Bobby Sammons
I was born and raised here and I agree 100%

我出生在美国,长大在美国,我100%同意楼上说的.

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