外国网友辩论：中国历史上哪个朝代最有趣呢？ [美国媒体]

Which dynasty is the most interesting in Chinese history?

中国历史上哪个朝代最有趣？


Robert Charles Lee, Printbroker, financial printer, non-practising lawyer
For me, the 37-year-long Sui 隋 dynasty (AD 581 to 618), which I had been taught as "the dynasty that nearly started the Industrial 
Revolution" and set up the basic departmental and ministerial system used in China since.

对于我来说，国祚37年的隋朝（公元581-618），我被人教育说“这个朝代几乎就要开始工业革命了”而且树立了此后中国使用的三省六部制的基础。



David Rander
I think the most interesting is Song dynasty.
The military power is poor, but Song is nearly the richest dynasty in Chinese history.
Song is the most skilled dynasty. It was the first government in world history to nationally issue paper money.
Song is a dynasty which literature and knowledge spread rapidly. Citizens gathered to view and trade precious artworks.
I also loved Han and Tang, but if there is a chance to go back, I'll back to the Song dynasty and see why it's so charming.

我认为最有趣的是宋朝。
军队实力很弱，但是宋朝差不多是中国历史上最富庶的王朝。
宋朝是技术最精湛的王朝，他是世界历史上第一个发行全国性纸币的政权。
宋朝是知识和着作广泛传播的朝代，市民们聚集去观看和交易珍贵的艺术品。
我也喜欢汉朝和唐朝，但是如果有机会穿越回去，我会回到宋朝去看看她为何如此迷人。

Sun Xiuqi, Buff in Chinese and Western History
I think the Ming Dynasty(1368-1644/1662/1682 AD) would be my choice.
It is the society that spawned modern China- and indeed, most Chinese institutions, etiquette, beliefs and socioeconomic norms today are continuations of the Ming Dynasty. In short, the Ming made China China.
Culturally, the Han and the Tang were more similar to 1970s America than to China today, and the Song more similar to post WWII 
Europe. It was only beginning with the Ming Dynasty that the modern Chinese person could find the "Chinese" culture he is used to, 
while the cultures and socioeconomic realities of pre-Ming China, while recognizably Chinese, would have been much more alien to him.( The Tang preference for big boobs and butt, for one, would have been confusing to a modern, non-American Chinese man.)
It is mind-boggling that a state established in the late medi era would bear so much similarity to it's successor today. I mean, 
in 1368 AD the kings of England still spoke French, depended on barons to raise armed forces, and organised (formally declared) 
crusades- which of those are they still doing now?
Also, they're the dynasty that completely pwned the Mongols. Sorry to upset the Mongol fanboys out there, but the Mongol Army did pretty much get fucked left and right by the early Ming army, being slaughtered like cattle all over China and losing Khanbaliq, 
Xanadu and Karakoram- their three most important cities.
The main reason for this was that the early Ming army completely outclassed the Mongols by being the first Army to operate with an early Modern military doctrine, utilising musketeers, field guns and heavy artillery in support of their heavy Cavalry and infantry columns in a field battle. Their generals, Xu Da and Chang Yuchun, too, were operating by the standards of Gustavus Adolphus and Napoleon, performing lightning fast strategic advances, bypassing enemy strong points and engaging in pitched battles only when the strategic situation was in their favour.
Ming musketeers.
WWI 80 pounder? Nope. This is a Ming Dynasty field gun.
Whats more insane is that, in the 1870s, when General Zuo Zongtang was on campaign in the Northwest, he excavated more than 300 Ming 
Artillery Shells in an abandoned artillery placement near Fengxiang, Shaanxi, some of which could even be fitted to the calibre of his 
Krupp Siege Guns and effectively fired, even centuries later!
This more than qualifies the Ming as the most interesting dynasty in Chinese History.

我认为明朝（1368-1644/1662/1682)会是我的选择。明朝甚至催生了中国现代社会，大多数今日中国的体系、礼仪、信仰和社会经济结构是明朝的一种延续。简而言之，明朝让中国变的中国。



文化角度，汉唐更接近于1970年代的美国而不是今日的中国。而宋朝更类似于二战后的欧洲。只有从明朝起，现代华人可以找到他所熟悉的中国文化，虽然明朝之前中国的经济文化也被中国人认同，但是相较而言会更陌生一些（例如：唐朝偏爱丰乳肥臀，这会让当代的非美籍中国人迷惑不解）
令人难以置信的是一个中世纪晚期建立的国家会和今天的继承者如此的相似。我的意思是在1368年的时候英国国王还在说法语，依附于贵族提高武力，组织十字军东征—而他们现在仍然这么做吗？
此外，他们是彻底击溃蒙古人的朝代。抱歉让蒙古的粉丝们心塞了，但是蒙古军队几乎被早期的明朝军队艹翻了。像牲口一样在全中国被杀戮并丢掉了大都，上都，喀喇昆仑这三个蒙古人最重的的城市。
主要的原因就是早期的明军不知道比蒙古军队高到哪里去了，明军是第一个采用现代军事策略的军队，在野战中利用火枪手野战炮重炮支援他们的重骑兵
和步兵方阵。他们的统帅常遇春和徐达，与希特勒和拿破仑的战术有异曲同工之妙，执行快速闪电战，避实而击虚，当战略形势有利时才出击。



明朝神机营



一战机关枪？不，这是明朝野战炮。
更疯狂的是，在1870年代左宗棠将军在西北征讨时，在陕西凤翔一个废弃炮塔附近挖出了300多个明朝炮弹，其中一些甚至可以被装填到他的克虏伯大炮中并有效发射，即使已经过了几个世纪。
没有比明朝更有资格作为中国历史上最有趣的朝代。

Joe Yang
I think it is Tang Dynasty.
Tang Dynasty(AD618-AD907) has a large population contains 80 million people.And under the great rule of the emperors,Tang Dynasty  became the most prosperous country in the world at that time.Then, many amazing  things were created under this peaceful and prosperous dynasty.
The engraving art was popular at that time and many wonderful things were carved then. 
This is  the Giant Stone Buddha at Leshan. Built up at AD803.
This is the Mo Kao Grotto ai Dunhuang. 
This is tri-coloured glazed pottery of the Tang dynasty.
They are a little part of the art achievements of Tang.
Poetry of the Tang Dynasty.
You may heard about the Tang  poems ever.  Tang Dynasty produced about 40 thousand poems.Some of them have deeply influenced the later China and its people.
All above is about the culture of Tang Dynasty.I think that's why the Tang Dynasty attracts me so much.Its culture impressed the 
world so much that many foreign countries have Tang Ren streets now.
By the way,Tang Dynasty had the only Empress during the whole history of China. Her name is Zetian Wu.
Zetian Wu in TV...

我认为是唐朝。
唐朝（公元618-907）拥有8000万的庞大人口。在皇帝英明的统治下，唐朝成为那时世界上最繁荣的国家。于是，和平繁荣的帝国孕育出许多惊艳的事物。
在那时雕刻艺术非常流行并且许多精彩的事情被雕刻了下来。



这是乐山大佛，建于公元803年



这是敦煌莫高窟



这是唐朝的三彩釉
他们只是唐朝艺术成就的一小部分
唐朝的诗歌艺术。
你也许以前听说过唐诗，唐朝涌现出了四万多个诗人，他们其中有一些诗人深刻影响了之后的中国和中国人。
以上都是关于唐朝文化，我认为这就是唐朝为何能如此吸引我。唐朝文化令人折服，许多外国国家现在都有唐人街。
顺便说一句，唐朝有中国历史上唯一一位女皇帝，她的名字是武则天。

Nelson Ho, avid traveler in China
I would definitely choose the Tang dynasty.
Something during the Tang dynasty that wasn't found during the Han dynasty:
1.  Non ethnic Han people accepted to become prime ministers
2.  International cities.  Historical records show that there were many Japanese, Koreans, and Indoeuropeans residing in the two 
capitals Chang'an (长安, current day Xi'an) and Luoyang (洛阳).  Even locals would wear clothes imported or influenced by Indo-
European countries
3.  lüshi (律诗, an ancient form of Chinese verses) appeared during the Tang dynasty.  This was due to the influences from Buddhism 
and Sanskrit
4.  Dances and musical instruments.  Again influences from Indo-Europe
5.  The spread of the Chinese culture.  You can still find much Tang influence in today's Japan
6.  A mega palace!  Da Ming Gong (大明宫) are four times as big as Peking's Forbidden City!
7.  Chinese calligraphy.  The most influential calligraphers were born during the Tang dynasty
However, Chang'an had a curfew, unlike Kaifeng （开封）in the Sung dynasty.  The Chinese had to wait a few centuries to see their 
first night markets.

我当然选择唐朝。
这些是能在唐朝找到却不能在汉朝找到的事情：
1.非汉族能被接受当宰相
2.国际化城市。历史记载许多日本人朝鲜人及印欧人居住在长安洛阳二京。甚至当地人会穿受到印欧风格影响的衣服。
3.律诗（一种汉语古诗形式）出现在唐朝，这是由于受到了佛教和梵文的影响。
4.舞蹈和乐器，再次受到印欧的影响
5.唐朝文化的传播。你今日仍能在日本找到许多唐风的东西。
6.无与伦比的宫殿！大明宫相当于北京紫禁城的四倍大小。
7.中国书法。最有影响力的书法家出生在唐朝时期。



然而，不像宋朝的开封，长安是有宵禁的。中国人不得不等上几个世纪才能看到他们第一个夜市。

Noah Zuo, Big fan of Sui Dynasty
I choose Sui Dynasty, and here is why:
1.Sui is far short-lived. Compared to 319-year-old Song dynasty, Sui has only lived for 38 years.
2.Sui has achieved national unity.
3.Sui is extremely rich. Because Emperor Wendi created household register reform for China.
4.Sui has most strong international status at that time. Emperor Yangdi was called "the Saint Khagan" by Turkic.
5.Sui connected China and West Regions again.
6.Sui built Beijing-Hangzhou canal, whichi makes sui even richer.
7.Sui created imperial examination system, which makes people with great talent able to be an offical, even if he is very poor and has no status at all.
8.Sui created the system of Three Councils and Six Boards, which influenced China for thousands of years.
9.Emperor Yangdi is really interesting. He is regarded brutal by Chinese people. But I think he is one of the greatest emperors in 
Chinese history.

我选择隋朝，理由如下：
1.隋朝非常短暂，相比国祚319年的宋朝，隋朝仅仅存在了38年。
2.隋朝实现了大一统。
3.隋朝极度富有。因为隋文帝对中国进行了户籍改革。
4.那时候隋朝有强大的国际地位，隋炀帝被突厥称作圣可汗。
5.隋朝再次联通西域。
6.隋朝建造了让隋朝更富庶的京杭大运河。
7.隋朝创立了科举制度，让有才华的人可以入仕，即使他穷困潦倒。
8.隋朝创立了三省六部制。影响中国上千年。
9.隋炀帝确实有趣，中国人把它视作暴君，但我认为他是中国历史上最伟大的皇帝之一。

Timcy Thomas, a woman, a cook, a designer, a consultant, a reader, a traveller and a human
I feel that Song and Yuan dynasties are the most interesting dynasties in Chinese history. Because the world's greatest inventions 
like  the paper, printing, gunpowder and the compass was further developed and introduced to the foreign world during this period.

我感觉宋朝和元朝是中国历史上最有趣的朝代。因为世界上最伟大的发明例如造纸，印刷术，火药，指南针在这个时期被传播到外国并发扬光大。

Tiffany Cheng
Culturally: I would say Tang and Song, because during Tang and Song period China became the cultural epicenter of Asia. Many other countries (especially Japan and Korea) looked up to Chinese culture during those times. And Chinese culture finally reached its peak of refinement during the Song Dynasty . Tang Dynasty also has its moment of cultural refinement, especially in terms of literary culture and sericulture. Then, the people from Tang and Song Dynasty period were very well-educated and refined, they are very civilized and well-groomed.
Militarily: I would say Qin and Han, China was very powerful militarily during the Qin and Han periods. There were many interesting 
things about Chinese military could be tell during those times. Qin and Han dynasty period were also know for creating new military technologies like repeating crossbows, gun powders, cavalry, etc.
Financially: I would say Song Dynasty, China was the richest country during the Song Dynasty. 40% of the world economy was controlled by China during that time. China also had a welfare during the Song Dynasty period.
Socially: I would say Tang and Yuan, Tang Dynasty had so many other nationalities came to China and became settlers. The Chinese saw many other nationalities there. Yuan Dynasty also has other nationalities like Arabs and Persians living in China, Chinese history record said that Arabs and Persaims were often hired by Mongols in China to be tax collectors. There were even Egyptians living in Hangzhou during Yuan Dynasty period, Ibn-Battuta on his records said that he had ever seen Egyptians living at Hangzhou.
Technologically: I would say Qin, Han, Sui, and Song because many of the Chinese inventions were created during those times. 
Infrastrucure technology was advanced during the Qin, Han, Sui, and Song periods because during those times the Chinese made so many infrastructure projects (Grand Canal of China, Pond Lock, and Dunjiangyan Irrigation are one of the examples). Military technology was the most advanced during the Qin and Han periods because the Chinese created so many military technologies like weaponry and cavalry.

文化角度：我会说是唐朝和宋朝，因为唐宋期间中国成为亚洲的文化中心。在那时许多其他国家（特别是日本朝鲜）对中国文化高山仰止。中国文化最终
在宋朝达到了顶峰。唐朝也有他的文化精华，特别是文学艺术和蚕丝业。当时，唐宋时期的人们非常有教养和文雅，他们非常文明整洁。
军事角度：我会说是秦朝和汉朝，中国在秦汉时期拥有强大的军事力量。在那个时候有许多关于军队有趣的时期可以说，秦汉时期也因许多军事技术创新
而闻名比如连弩，黑火药，骑兵等等。
财富角度：我会说是宋朝，在宋朝时中国是最富的国家。在那时世界经济40%掌握在中国手里。在宋朝时期中国还有社会福利。
社会角度：我会说是唐朝和元朝。唐朝时有许多国家和民族的人来到中国并定居，中国人那时候能看到许多国家民族的人。元朝也有许多外国人诸如阿拉伯人波斯人住在中国，中国历史记载说阿拉伯人和波斯人经常被蒙古人雇佣在中国当税吏。在元朝时期甚至有埃及人居住在杭州。Ibn-Battuta在他的记录中说他见过埃及人居住在杭州。
科技角度：我会说是秦朝，汉朝，隋朝和宋朝。因为许多中国发明在此期间产生。基础技术在秦汉隋宋期间进步因为那时中国进行了很多工程建设（中国大运河，池塘锁，都江堰都是例子）。军事技术在秦汉时期飞速进步因为中国创造了许多武器及骑兵的军事科技。

Peter Zhang
To be honest, I choose Song dynasty, because it's the richest and freest dynasty in history of China. Someone even doubts if Song dynasty is a dictatorship. Emperors have less power than other dynasties' emperors and intellectuals are largely free to express their opinions.

说老实话，我选宋朝，因为他是中国历史上最富有和自由的时代。甚至有人怀疑宋朝是不是一个专制政权。宋朝皇帝的权利比其他时期的皇帝要小，而且知识分子很大程度上可以自由的表达他们的意见。

Pumpkin Xia
I think it is Han Dynasty. 
At that time, there were not many limitations and constrictions of life both for women and men. Many thoughts came out and influenced different people. Free thoughts made people lived more comfortable. Meanwhile, the communication with other countries even Rome first started. The silk road opened a great way for people in the world to communicate.

我认为是汉朝。
在那时，对于男性和女性在生活上没有那么多限制和束缚。许多思想出现并影响不同的人，思想自由让人们活的更舒服。与此同时，同其他国家甚至罗马的交流开始了，丝绸之路开启了世界人民交流的伟大之路。

Jason Chen, a Chinese native, lover and researcher of Chinese history and culture
It should be the Qing Dynasty. Otherwise there would not have been so many TV episodes on Qing Dynasty which attracted billions of Chinese audience.

那必须是清朝。否则不会有那么多关于清朝的电视剧吸引了亿万中国观众。