如今日本依然可以像二战那样战胜中国吗？ [美国媒体]

Can Japan still defeat China now like they did in WW2?

如今日本依然可以像二战那样战胜中国吗？



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Rinat Abdekadir, I'm a Kazakh-Chinese who was born in Xinjiang.（新疆出生的中国哈萨克族人）
Updated Tue
Japan didn’t defeat China though, China still fought on no matter how outgunned and outclassed they were. China tied down over 1 million Japanese troops in WW2 and inflicted over 500k casualties on them, those 500k soldiers could’ve been used invading the rest of Asia instead. The US should be thankful that the Chinese were willing to do so much to help the war effort.
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日本没有打败中国，当时中国顽强抵抗，牵制了100多万日军，杀死50多万日军，否则的话这些50万士兵就去侵略亚洲其他地方了。美国应该感恩中国作出的巨大贡献。

Timothy Soh
Sun • 13 upvotes
Attacking China was a stupid idea.

攻击中国就是个愚蠢的决定。

Rinat Abdekadir
Sun • 1 upvote
Japan could’ve been allied with China instead.

日本本来可以和中国结盟的。

Timothy Soh
Sun • 1 upvote
Unlikely to happen since China back then was a friend of the US who had placed embargoes on Japan.

不可能结盟，当时的中国是美国的朋友，而美国对日本实施了禁运。

Rinat Abdekadir
Sun • 3 upvotes
China had tacitly supported Japan during the Russo-Japanese war because China had viewed Japan as a Asian bulwark against Western Imperialism only to have the Japanese backstab them and invade China.

日俄战争期间中国秘密支持过日本，因为中国视日本为抵抗西方帝国主义的亚洲堡垒，而日本背后插中国一刀入侵中国。

Timothy Soh
Sun • 2 upvotes including Rinat Abdekadir
The Americans weren't a party to the opium wars except trying to stop the Europeans from dividing the China.
But of course between the space of 1905 and 1939, much had changed within the Japanese political landscape.

美国人没有加入鸦片战争，而是努力阻止欧洲人分裂中国。
当然在1905到1939年期间，日本内部的政治图景发生了很大变化。

Joseph Siew
Sun • 1 upvote
But Japan didn't have much respect for Chinese then.

但是当时的日本并不尊重中国人。

Justin Ryutaro Johnston
Mon
And the only reason the US embargoed Japan was because it attacked China.

而美国对日本实施禁运的唯一原因就是因为日本攻击中国。

Du Toit van Schalkwyk
Mon • 6 upvotes including Rinat Abdekadir
Japan was definitely far to eager in their conquests. They might have been extremely powerful at that time, but they lacked vital resources, They would have been better off continueing trying to conquer other territories until they had more resources and manpower.
Unfortunately in their eagerness they first attacked China whose population dwarfed theirs…and then they decided to move the USA from merely placing sanctions to declaring a full scale war on them… I really question what the hell their leadership was thinking.

日本太急于自己的征服事业了。当时的日本是很强大，但是他们缺乏关键的资源。如果日本继续攻击其他国家让自己获得足够的资源和人力，那么日本会更好过点。
但是由于太过急切，他们首先攻击了人口规模比自己巨大的中国，然后又迫使美国从禁运变成全面对日宣战。。真搞不懂他们的领导人是怎么想的。

Remco Den Ouden
Sun • 3 upvotes including Rinat Abdekadir
It's kind of yhe USSR of the Pacific theatre. Japan thought it could deliver a knock-out blow, but instead it got tied up in a war of attrition

有点像太平洋战场的苏联。日本以为自己可以闪电击败对方，可是却陷入了消耗战。

Joseph Siew
Sun • 4 upvotes
The Japanese vowed to conquer China within 3 months, but 8 years later they surrendered to the allies.

日本誓言3个月内征服中国，可是8年后向盟军投降。

James Wu
Mon • 5 upvotes including Joseph Siew
Consider the mentality of the Japs towards the end of WW2. They conveyed their ‘terms of surrender to the Allies (through the Russians) where they want to retain Manchuria and Taiwan after their surrender. They were on the verge of total defeat (,actually their fate was decided when Truman decided on the use of the atom bombs) and yet they seem delusional on the realities of war, that as a nation on the brink of total collapse she still wants to set terms. She has forgotten that she was the country responsible for starting the killings murders and hardships , they feel no remorse or shame for the pain they have caused especially to China. One can conclude by saying they still harbour the ambition to expand their empire and spread thrir influence with American’s help and China has to be wary of her.

看看二战结束时的日本人心态。他们通过俄罗斯人向盟军传达了投降条件，投降后想保留满洲和台湾。他们已经到了完败的边缘（在杜鲁门决定投下原子弹时他们的命运就决定了），可是他们却对显示抱有幻想，作为即将完全崩溃的国家，他们还想谈条件。他们忘记了是自己造成了那么多的杀戮和苦难，他们没有懊悔和可耻之心，特别是对中国造成的伤害。所以我们可以说日本依然想在美国的帮助下扩张帝国和影响力，中国必须保持警惕。

Joseph Siew
Mon • 1 upvote
50 years between the first Sino-Japanese naval war and the end of WWII, the Imperial Jap military force was almost invincible. They forced the Qing government to sign the Treaty of Shimonoseki, beat the Russians at the Russo-Japanese war, won the WWI as an ally, invasion of Manchuria, 2nd Sino-Japanese war, invasion of South East Asia. They had nurtured a few generations of arrogant Japanese people who treated fellow Asians as animals. For Japan to finally face the music and surrender to the WWII allies was unthinkable in that era. That's probably why the right wing Japanese still honor the war criminals and deny war atrocities; killing of animals is not atrocity.

第一次中日海战到二战结束的这50年间，日本帝国军队几乎天下无敌。他们强迫清政府签订马关条约，日俄战争中打败俄罗斯，作为盟友赢得一战，入侵满洲，第二次中日战争，入侵东南亚。他们培养了好几代的傲慢日本人，将亚洲人视作动物。所以在那个时期，面对现实向盟军投降在日本看来是无法想像的事情。所以这也是现在日本右翼参拜战犯、否认战争罪行的原因所在；杀死动物不是暴行。

Drew Jenner
Answered Sep 22
Well they didn't in WW2. China absorbed by far the largest part of the IJA in WW2. It suffered hugely but was never beaten. It didn't have much by way of modern weaponry but kept up resistance that for sure made life a lot less difficult for the US in the Pacific and the British Alliance in Burma.
It's a vastly under estimated war in the West. China thoroughly deserved its place as a Permanent Member of the UN Security Council. As did Britain, US and USSR. Canada in Europe Theatre or India in the Far East probably put the next biggest contributions to the Allies success.
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日本二战没有打败中国。中国牵制了最多数量的日军。遭受巨大损失，但是从没被打败。当时中国没有很多现代化武器，但是坚持抵抗，减轻了美国在太平洋以及英缅联盟在缅甸的负担。
中国的贡献被西方严重低估。中国完全有资格和美国英国苏联一样成为安理会常任理事国。而加拿大在欧洲以及印度在远东的贡献仅次于中国。