中国人实际上比西方人更易受寒冷影响吗？ [美国媒体]

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Posted byu/duck_duck_goose1991 14 hours ago
Summer has finally hit and whilst the weather has been nice recently I know by the end of the month I'll be trying to claw off my skin thanks to the humidity and 35℃+.

夏天终于来了，而且最近天气很好。我知道到月底，由于湿度和35℃+高温的缘故，我会难受到去抓挠我的皮肤。

At work I am in a constant battle with my coworkers regarding the the AC remote because none of them seem to be dying as much as I am. My boyfriend (who is Chinese) is constantly turning off the AC when I'm asleep and insists it's just too cold as opposed to the standard thing of thinking AC is unhealthy.

在工作中，我常常和我的同事们争空调遥控器，因为他们中没一个人像我一样（热得）快死了。我的男朋友（是中国人）在我睡着的时候经常关掉空调，并坚持说是太冷了才关掉的，而不是出于大家一般认为空调是不健康的想法才关掉的。

I'm British/Dutch which might play a part in it because the weather isn't great in both of those countries- Yet here people are layered up beyond recognition come winter time whilst I'm happy with a scarf and a jacket.

可能与我是英国人/荷兰人有关，因为这两个国家的天气都不是很好。然而在这里，冬天来的时候，人们一层层裹得认不出来，而我一条围巾一件夹克就很满意了。

I've had many discussions with Chinese friends about this and they are sure that Western bodies are different. Is there any scientific evidence behind Asians being more sensitive to the cold or should I get my thyroids checked out?

就这事我和中国朋友讨论过很多次，他们确信西方人的身体（跟亚洲人）是不一样的。有没有任何科学证据表明亚洲人对寒冷更敏感，或者我应该做个甲状腺检查？

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UnCachoDePizza 17 points·13 hours ago
I’ve lost that battle a long time ago. I just use a meeting room as my office sorry not sorry.

我很久以前就输掉了那场战役。我就干脆把会议室作为我的办公室，对不起。

duck_duck_goose1991 11 points·13 hours ago（贴主）
I've been doing the exact same and I'm convinced people think there is something wrong with me. They keep patting me on the back and telling me things will get better soon.
They're not wrong winter will come eventually

我一直在做同样的事情，我确信人们认为我哪里有问题。他们不停地拍我的背，告诉我很快就会好起来的。他们说得没有错，冬天终将来临。

Gish21 Japan 18 points·12 hours ago
They're not wrong winter will come eventually
Then all the windows will be open while everyone wears their parkas and gloves inside. There's no winning

[他们说得没有错，冬天终将来临。]
然后，所有的窗户都将打开，而每个人在房间里都穿着他们带兜帽的大衣和手套。根本就没有胜利。

duck_duck_goose1991 2 points·11 hours ago
When that happens I just think about the summer and nothing feels cold any more

当这种情况发生时，我只要想想夏天，就感觉不到寒冷了。

BlazeMiskulin United States 17 points·13 hours ago
My guess is that you're in the mid-to-southern part of China (Shanghai is basically sub-tropical). Talk to Chinese from the north and they'll bitch about this stuff too.
I've a few friends from Harbin (I'm from Wisconsin) and we feel the same way about southerners and the weather.

我猜你在中国的中南部（上海基本上属于亚热带地区）。 与中国的北方人交谈，他们也对这类事情有牢骚。我有一些来自哈尔滨的朋友（我来自威斯康星州），我们对南方人和天气持同感。

duck_duck_goose1991 7 points·11 hours ago
Very correct. I spend every day questioning my choice to move here when it's summer

非常正确。我每天都在质疑自己当时为什么要选在夏天的时候搬到这里。

Dorigoon 4 points·11 hours ago
Plenty of northerners hate the AC too. I gave up on having the AC on in my office and they even bitch about having a fan blow on them sometimes. Have taken to often just sitting in my car with the AC on when not otherwise busy.

很多北方人也讨厌空调。我放弃了在我的办公室开空调，他们有时甚至还会抱怨风扇吹到他们了。不忙的时候，我已经习惯坐在我的车内开空调。

Hautamaki Canada 5 points·9 hours ago·edited 9 hours ago
Ehhh my mil is native dongbei and she keeps the indoor temperature at 26 C while wearing her woolen pants and heavy sweater. When she visits us obviously we don't put the heat at 26 C but she cannot even sleep at 22 C so we had to get her an electric heated blanket to keep her warm enough to sleep in bed at 22 C.

呃，我的母亲是东北人，她穿着羊毛裤和厚毛衣时，会让室内温度保持在26摄氏度。当她来访时，我们显然不会把温度调在26摄氏度，但在22摄氏度下她甚至无法入睡，所以我们必须给她一条电热毯，让她在室温22摄氏度时足够温暖在床上睡觉。

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TYT518 1 point·11 hours ago
You grow up in a cold environment you get used to the cold vice-versa.
I'm from the north and I loath the summer. Autumn and Winter all the time please!

你在寒冷的环境中成长，你就会习惯寒冷，反之我觉得热的时候，她却觉得温度正合适。我来自北方，我不喜欢夏天。请一直是秋天和冬天。

BillyBattsShinebox 30 points·13 hours ago
Chinese people born or raised overseas bitch about this stuff all the time too. It's nothing to do with genetics.

在国外出生或长大的中国人也一直抱怨这个。这和基因没任何关系。

pyree88 12 points·13 hours ago
I concur. I think it has to do with upbringing. I mostly just wear a short sleeve shirt during winter when I was a kid. Winter is not too cold in where I grew up. About 5-15°C and drops to 0 maybe for a day or two in the morning.

我同意。我觉得这和个人成长有关。小时候，冬天我大多数时候只穿一件短袖衬衫。在我长大的地方，冬天并不寒冷，一般在5-15°C，仅有一两天早晨温度会降到0度。

TooManyDonkeys 4 points·9 hours ago
German born Chinese here. Currently working in Shenzhen for a German company. Me and my German boss are constantly battling with our other Chinese colleagues over the AC control. Anything over 25°C kills me.

我是一名在中国出生的德国人，目前在深圳一家德企上班。我和我的德国老板不断和我们的中国同事争论空调的使用。我完全不能忍受高于25°C的温度。

viborg 10 points·12 hours ago
But in the winter here they will constantly leave the window open “cause it’s stuffy” even if that means it’s 3 degrees outside and also 3 degrees inside.

但是在冬天，他们常会大开窗户“因为太闷了”，即使这使室内室外都只有3摄氏度。

ShittyWeeBrownPoodle 10 points·12 hours ago
That's the thing - come Spring Festival when I'm freezing my ass off at the Wife's laojia with no heating and all the doors and windows wide open in Jan or Feb - nobody's complaining about the cold then are they?! (except me)

对，就是这种。过春节的时候，我在我妻子的老家都被冻疯了，他们家没有暖气，在一月或者二月里还大开窗户，没有人抱怨冷，所以他们不怕冷吗啊？（除了我）

BillyBattsShinebox 11 points·12 hours ago
Winter = cold so living in an arctic wasteland is natural and healthy
Summer = hot so living in an environment that resembles the surface of Mercury is natural and healthy

冬天=寒冷，所以生活在北极荒原是自然又健康的。
夏天=酷暑，所以生活在像水星表面那样的地方是自然又健康的。

ShittyWeeBrownPoodle 7 points·8 hours ago
This makes far too much sense.

你说得真是太有理了。

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WhereTheHotWaterAt 5 points·12 hours ago
Don't forget the pollution too.
A coworker always tries to open the window to clear the air as if we didn't have ventilation and were using coal to heat

不要忘了污染。一位同事总是想要打开窗户透气，就像我们没有通风设备，在靠煤炭取暖一样。

duck_duck_goose1991 5 points·11 hours ago
BUT WHY???
(No why)

但是为什么呢？？？（没有为什么）

tnp636 11 points·9 hours ago
I've been here a LONG time and I have a theory about most of this stuff.

我来这里很久了，对此我有自己的一些看法。

In the case of keeping windows open in the winter; carbon-monoxide poisoning. They used to burn coal wood whatever they could get their hands on to stay warm in the winter. I'm sure millions of people have died of carbon-monoxide poisoning because of this. So over time windows closed (duh it's freaking cold outside) which means no air flow leads to carbon monoxide poisoning which equals death which means unhealthy.

在冬天开窗户，可避免一氧化碳中毒。中国人以前靠煤炭、柴火等一切可用于燃烧的东西在冬天里进行取暖。我相信，许多人因此死于一氧化碳中毒。所以，随着时间的推移，关窗（嗯，外面真的冷得要命）就意味着没有空气流通，就会导致一氧化碳中毒，而这会导致死亡，所以是不健康的。

Same reason most Chinese don't like uncooked vegetables. Or non-warm water. Traditionally these were not properly cleaned or filtered so people get sick from it. Consequently it's considered "unhealthy".

基于同样的原因，大多数的中国人不喜欢生食蔬菜，饮用冷火。传统的看法是，这些食物若没清洗干净，或好好过滤过，那么人们食用后就会生病。所以，认为这些是“不健康的”。

Don't take a baby out for the first 100 days: Having experienced the open sewage alongside the roads that used to pass for "waste management" this is also makes sense. Newborn babies go outside get covered in shit (literally) get sick and die. Therefore babies outside too early = death.

不能带未满100天的婴儿出门：因为有沿着“废物处理”的街道经过开放的下水道，所以我觉得这也是有道理的。婴儿在外面，沾上粪便（真的是字面意思），就会生病、死亡。因此，太小的婴儿出门=死亡。

Chinese may not be generally religious but their superstitions substitute and generally carry the weight of what we would consider religion. So when you want to argue about science with them regarding most of the nonsense remember that it's like arguing about god. You're probably not going to get far.

中国人或许一般不信仰宗教，但是他们相信迷信就像相信宗教一样。所以，如果你和他们争论一些科学的东西，记住这就像争论上帝一样。你不太可能能说服他们。

Farhandlir 7 points·7 hours ago
I grabbed the AC remote at the beginning of summer and it's locked inside my desk drawer they've tried to get it before and I damn near cut their hand off now they don't try anymore.

夏天刚来，我就把空调遥控器锁在我的抽屉里。之前他们还想要拿出来，我差点把他们手打断，现在他们已经放弃了。

buz1984 4 points·12 hours ago
There was a good thread about this last week. https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/8vhsva/you_know_you_live_in_china_when/

上周，关于这个话题有一篇很好的贴文。https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/8vhsva/you_know_you_live_in_china_when/。

Yeah it's frustrating. Especially for sleeping as it's healthiest to sleep a few degrees under the comfortable daytime temperature range.

是的，这让人沮丧，尤其是睡觉时室温低于白天适宜温度是最健康的。

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-Flamehaze 3 points·11 hours ago
Literally some Chinese think the best temperature for AC is 26℃

一般来说，中国人认为空调最佳温度是26℃。

macchiatospitz 4 points·9 hours ago
omg I actually feel blessed when I can manage to convince people to turn it down to 26

我的天呐，实际上当我能说服人们把温度降到26度时感觉很幸福。

Kopfballer 1 point·4 hours ago
My Experience is that AC is no problem to run it on high duty the colder the better... rather bring a thin windbreaker than turning up the temperature. But if the temperature outside drops below 20o it is time to take out the down jacket which i would usually wear in an north european winter and then still feel to hot most of times.

以我的经验，让空调高负荷运行是没有问题的，越冷越好...我宁愿多穿件薄风衣也不愿调高温度。但是如果外面的温度低于20℃，那么是时候取出我在北欧冬天经常穿的羽绒服，然后大部分时间还是感觉有点热。

hapigood 3 points·10 hours ago
Northeast:
In office in the summer everyone wears shorts/t-shirts (male) or hotpants/vests (female) or some combination of this.
In winter no coats at desks are allowed but everyone is wearing thermals anyway so the heating's not super high (-20 outside about +20 inside which with or without thermals is pretty OK(.

东北：夏天，办公室里，每人都穿着短袖/T恤（男性）或者热裤/背心（女性）或者这些的组合。在冬天，办公桌那儿不能穿大衣，但是每人都穿着保暖衣，所以暖气不用调到太高（室外-20°，室内大概20°，这种情况下穿或不穿保暖衣都没啥问题）。

uNhoLeee Sweden 5 points·12 hours ago
I run hot. my girl runs hot but she complains when the fan is on her. as if she's been brainwashed it will make her sick. the kids also complain it's hot if there's no air con. so it's probably some silly superstition. and females should feel cooler due to a higher internal body temperature and cooler limbs.

我很容易出汗，我的女友也很容易出汗，但是当风扇对着她吹时她又老是抱怨。好像她被洗脑得认为这会使她生病。如果没空调的话小孩也同样抱怨很热。所以这大概是一些愚蠢的迷信。由于体温较高，四肢较凉，所以女性应该会感觉凉爽点。

duck_duck_goose1991 4 points·11 hours ago
I'm so surprised with my boyfriend finding it strange as he is very against Chinese medicine and anything superstitious. It's probably so deeply engrained in his brain he can't unthink it

我很惊讶我的男朋友觉得这很奇怪，因为他非常反对中医和任何迷信的东西。有可能这种想法已经深深烙印在他的大脑中，以至于他无法改变这种想法。

MuteCook 3 points·10 hours ago
You're right on. Like most wacky shit over there it's something similar to drinking hot water that generations have past down. Since they lack the ability to question anything they just do it.

你是对的。就像那些从过去几代人那里传下来的喝热水的古怪习惯一样。因为他们缺少质疑的能力，所以就只是照着去做。

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duck_duck_goose1991 1 point·1 hour ago
However I think I may have found one if the rare few who despises hot water. Anytime we get served hot water in a restaurant he'll return it and ask for cold with ice. Three times after this happened we had serving staff asking him why his Chinese is so good because they assumed he was Korean or Japanese

然而我认为我可能认识一个非常罕见的鄙视热水的中国人。每次在餐馆有服务员为我们送上热水时，他都会拒绝并要求一杯加冰块的水。这样三次后，有服务员问他为什么他的中文这么好，因为他被假定成了韩国人或者日本人。

ssdv80gm2 2 points·11 hours ago
We grew up in the north we are used to cool temperatures but not used to the heat. It's the opposite for most Chinese people.
I've the same issue with my wife. At the temperature I start to feel comfortable she starts to feel cold and vice versa.

我们在北方长大，所以我们习惯了低温环境而不习惯高温。而大多数中国人则相反。我和我妻子之间也有同样的烦恼。当我觉得温度正合适的时候，她却觉得冷，反之我觉得热的时候，她却觉得温度正合适。

Kentsinoroyale 2 points·6 hours ago
I’m Chinese American with a Northern Chinese wife yeah even in America turning on the fan at night and A/C during heatwave means she’ll get a cold.

我是个华裔美国人，我妻子是中国北方人。是的，没错，甚至在美国的时候，要是在晚上开风扇或者是酷暑期间开空调就意味着她很可能会感冒。

Stevvo 3 points·11 hours ago
Bodyfat is a great insulator so if we are talking in generalizations yes Chinese are more susceptible to cold than westerners.

体内脂肪是很好的绝缘体，所以如果我们讨论的是一般情况下的话，那么是的，中国人比西方人更容易受寒冷的影响。

Farhandlir 2 points·7 hours ago
Chinese are skinny fat Asians in general they have a less dense bone structure than Caucasians and Africans so a Chinese who looks "a little fat" may actually have a much higher BMI than a Westerner who also looks "a little fat".

中国人是“泡芙人”，基本上亚洲人的骨胳密度比白种人和非洲人低，所以同样看起来“有一点点胖”的人，中国人的身体质量指数实际上比西方人更高。

Take two people the same height and the same weight one is Asian the other Caucasian bones will account for 10%* of the body mass of the Asian person but 20%* of the body mass of the Caucasian person therefore at same height and weight the Asian has more body fat than the Caucasian even at slightly lower weights.

将两个同样身高体重的人放一起，一个是亚洲人，另一个是白种人，骨胳占亚洲人体质量的10%，占白种人的20%。因此，相同的身高体重下，亚洲人比白种人有更多的体内脂肪，就算体重稍轻一点也是如此。

*差不多 numbers I have no idea how much bones weigh in real life but you get the idea.
But yeah China doesn't have the same obesity epidemic as Anglo countries although it is rapidly catching up if you look at children these days.

上述数字只是大概的范围，我不知道真实的数据是怎样的，但你们懂我想表达的意思。但是，是的，中国是没有像英美国家那样流行肥胖症，然而他们儿童的体重目前正快速地迎头赶上英美国家。

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onektruths 1 point·2 hours ago·edited 2 hours ago
Can somewhat confirm I'm ethnic Chinese when I was overweight at 82kg I wear just a business shirt in the winter (around 7-13 degrees Celsius here in Auckland) and I was ok. and in the office I would need a fan to keep myself cool.

某种程度来说是的。我是华人，当我超重体重达到82KG的时候，在冬天（奥克兰：7-13摄氏度）我也只穿一件商务衬衫，并且不觉得冷。在办公室时我还得靠风扇来降温。

Now after I lost 20kg or so of fat... my hands are constantly cold and I wear 2-3 layers in the office almost all the time..
I know that I might not have as much subcutaneous fat proportionally as Europeans but being fat really helps to keep the body temperature up.

现在，我减重大约20KG...然后我的双手经常是冰冷的，即使是在办公室里我也几乎一直要穿2-3件衣服...我知道我应该没有欧洲人那样高的皮下脂肪比例，但是肥胖确实有助于身体保温。

duck_duck_goose1991 1 point·1 hour ago
To be fair I am carrying round a little extra recently after one too many hotpots. Good job on losing the 20kg though!

老实说，我最近因为吃了太多火锅，所有体重有点增加。但哥们你减掉了20kg欸，为你点赞！

nemotpupupu 1 point·4 hours ago
Native Chinese here working in the US wearing a thin jacket but still freezing in the office now....

我是土生土长的中国人，在美国工作，穿着件薄外套在办公室里还是感觉有点冷...

mthmchris 1 point·52 minutes ago
Honestly while I usually hate when people make overarching claims on race based on genetics... I do personally believe that Caucasians - especially north Europe - are more sensitive to hot temperatures.
As you go away from the equator people (1) get hairier (2) get fatter (3) get larger. Hair and fat obviously help insulate in cold weather and larger vertebrates do better in the cold due to a smaller surface-area-to-volume-ratio (I.e. Bergman's rule).
(I'm fully aware that this all might be pseudoscience so anyone's free to correct me if I'm wrong.)

老实说，虽然我经常讨厌人们根据种族遗传性来做出总体判断...但是我个人的确相信白种人——特别是北欧的人——对高温更敏感。按照远离赤道的方向，人们会有这些变化：1.更多毛发。2.更胖。3.更高大。毛发和肥胖明显可以帮助隔绝寒冷的气温，由于较小的表面积与体积比，较大的脊椎动物在寒冷中表现更好。（贝格曼规律）
（我自知这很可能是伪科学，所以如果我错了任何人都可以纠正我）

DRCLGD 0 points·6 hours ago
Another Amwf couple? Feel free to join heyai. Also the Chinese people don’t like ac turned too low because of wasting electricity and environment potentially harm

又一对亚男白女情侣？欢迎你来加入“HEY-爱”论坛。（译注：该论坛是为亚洲男性和非亚女性结识的社交网络）。另外，中国人不喜欢将空调调到太低的温度也可能是因为怕费电和潜在对环境造成危害。



Eat_the_PathHong Kong-2 points·11 hours ago
Personally I think it's more to do with population density. The more people you have crammed together the easier it is for an infection to spread. In comparison the West is virtually empty of people.

我个人觉得跟人口密度更有关系。太多人聚在一起更有利于感染病的传播。相比之下，西方几乎很空旷。

fxuwen -4 points·12 hours ago
East Asians eat less meat and milk.

东亚人肉类和牛奶吃得不多。