为什么油管社区大多对中国是不感冒的,而Quora社区大多是支持中国的? [美国媒体]

quora网友:他们可能并没有你所描述的偏见。YouTube 和 Quora 都会根据你关注的对象、你以前看过 / 读过的内容以及你的点赞结果,有选择地向你展示视频 / 答案。它们都没有向用户显示完整的内容集,所有这些都被他们认为用户感兴趣的内容过滤掉了。

Why is the YouTube community mostly anti-China, while the Quora community is mostly pro-China?

为什么油管社区大多是反感中国的,而Quora社区大多是支持中国的?



Derek Harkness, Teacher at University of Science and Technology Liaoning (2010-present)
Answered Jul 13
They might not actually have the biases that you describe. Both YouTube and Quora selectively display videos/answers to you based on who you follow, what you have watched/read before, and what you have upvoted. Neither of them displays the full set of content to users. It has all been filtered by what they think that user is interested in. I might simply be that you have clicked on several anti videos in YouTube but clicked on several pro answers in Quora and those sites are then exaggerating the slight bias that you inputted.

他们可能并没有你所描述的偏见。
YouTube 和 Quora 都会根据你关注的对象、你以前看过 / 读过的内容以及你的点赞结果,有选择地向你展示视频 / 答案。它们都没有向用户显示完整的内容集,所有这些都被他们认为用户感兴趣的内容过滤掉了。
我可能只是单纯在 YouTube 上点击了几个反中国的视频,但在 Quora 上点击了几个支持性的答案,然后这些网站就夸大了你输入的轻微偏见。

A solution might be to unfollow some people who post about that topic and follow some other people who have a different bias.
However, let's just suppose the premise is true, that YouTube does have an anti-China bias. A probable cause of this is that YouTube is currently blocked in mainland China, restricting the range of users who can post content.
Now, it isn’t impossible to post videos on YouTube from China — all you need is a VPN service. However, this added complication has prevented YouTube from gaining a significant audience share in the country.
At the same time, people from Hong Kong, Taiwan and the Chinese diaspora worldwide, can post freely to YouTube and often do. Because of their connection to China and Chinese culture, they are going to post on that topic. Some people from these regions are quite critical of the PRC government, so they Chinese topic threads are dominated by an anti-PRC bias.

一种可能的解决方案是取消对某些发表关于该主题的帖子的人的关注,而关注一些其他有不同偏好的人。
然而,让我们假设前提是正确的,即 Youtube 确实存在反中国的偏见,一个可能的原因是,YouTube 目前在中国大陆被屏蔽,限制了可以发布内容的用户范围。
现在,在 YouTube 上发布来自中国的视频并不是不可能的——你只需要一个 VPN 服务。然而,这一附加的复杂因素阻碍了 YouTube 在中国获得大量的观众份额。
与此同时,来自香港、台湾和海外华人的人们可以自由地在 YouTube 上发布信息,而且经常这样做,由于他们与中国和中国文化的联系,他们可以发表关于某个话题的意见,来自这些地区的一些人对中国政府颇有微词,所以他们的中文话题被反 TG 的偏见所主导。

A similar thing used to be apparent on Wikipedia. Before 2008, Wikipedia was blocked in China. Wikipedia has strong policies in place to prevent biased or in Wikispeak Point of View (POV) content but it is a community project and the community decided by consensus what bias is. If one group of people are blocked out of the community through censorship, then the community consensus is going to tend to shift to one side.
For example, before 2008, there was a Wikipedia page for China, and a separate page form the PRC and another for the ROC. The three pages contained large overlapping areas on content but fitted with the ROC bias that the PRC and China are two separate concepts.
After Wikipedia became unblocked in mainland China, there was a resurgence of pro-PRC editors. The PRC and China pages were merged into one, following a bias more in line with a pro-PRC editorship.
So if YouTube ever became unblocked, you can expect the large PRC based population to start to swamp out the much smaller numbers from elsewhere and give YouTube a more representative bias. Since Quora has never been blocked in China, the bias here is different from YouTube.

类似的事情在维基百科上很明显。2008 年之前,维基百科在中国被屏蔽,维基百科制定了强有力的政策,以防止偏见或臆造的内容,但它是一个社区项目,社区的共识决定什么是偏见,如果有一群人因为审查制度而被挡在社区之外,社区的共识便会倾向于某一边。
例如,在 2008 年之前,中国有一个维基百科页面,中华人民共和国有一个单独的页面,中华民国有一个单独的页面,这三页在内容上有很大的重迭之处,但有来自中华民国的偏见,认为中华人民共和国和中国是两个独立的概念。
维基百科在中国大陆解禁后,亲中国的编辑人数再度上升,“中华人民共和国” 和 “中国” 两个版面被合并为一个版面,这更符合亲中共编辑的倾向。
因此,如果 YouTube 解禁,你可以预期,中国的庞大人口将开始淹没并挤压来自其它地方的、人数小得多的人的意见,并给 YouTube 带来更有代表性的偏见,由于 Quora 在中国从未被屏蔽过,这里的偏见与 YouTube 不同。

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Trevor Moody, Store Manager (2017-present)
Answered Jul 13
Simple — YouTube is not available to most Chinese people, while Quora is. YouTube is blocked via the firewall, so only those individuals that choose to take the time to use a VPN can use it — this means that YouTube exists as an echo chamber of primarily western sentiment. Additionally, Americans make up a large part of YouTube users, and on average are more hostile.
On Quora, Chinese citizens are able to represent themselves and respond to the ignorance common here in questions like “why don't Chinese people like democracy" and stuff like that.

很简单 - 大多数中国人都不能访问 YouTube,而 Quora 可以。
YouTube 被防火墙屏蔽,因此只有那些选择花时间使用 VPN 的人才能使用它——这意味着 YouTube 的存在主要是西方情绪的回音室,此外,美国人在 YouTube 用户中占很大比例,平均而言,YouTube 上的美国人的敌意更大。
在 Quora 上,中国公民能够代表自己,对 “中国人为什么不喜欢民主” 之类的常见问题做出回应。

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Tomy Chan
Answered Jul 14
it is true what Trevor Moody stated in his answer, because quora is not blocked so people from China with english profiency are able to answer the question.
The second contributing factor is the majority of quora viewer is someone who love to read at details, and while deep diving on China’s policy or China’s economy it turn out to be good. Youtube viewer are a visual people who less likely to be a “bookworm” , the mainstream media, and China has many issue with the west such as human rights, Uyghur conflicted, Hongkong umbrella movement, South China Sea, Tibet, Taiwan. These are often in the headlines, the west papers never try to disclosed that some of these are instigating by CIA, even though you can look for it in wikipedia. So a bookworm will know that this is actually a clash of interest between nation while ignorant people would say meh, Red China is evil, China is abusing it’s own people.

Trevor Moody 在他的回答中说的没错,因为 Quora 没有被屏蔽,那些有英语能力的中国人能够回答问题。
第二个因素是,大多数 Quora 的读者都喜欢阅读细节,而当他们深入了解中国的政策或中国经济时,结果证明它是好的。
YouTube 观众是一个不太可能成为主流媒体的 “读者” 的一群 “视觉人群”,而中国与西方有许多问题,这些经常出现在头条新闻中,西方报纸从来没有试图披露其中一些是由 CIA 煽动的,即使你可以在维基百科中找到它。
所以一个书呆子会知道这实际上是国家之间的利益冲突,而无知的人会说,啊,红色中国是邪恶的,中国在虐待它自己的人民。

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Kastus Lobandievsky, Just me
Answered Jul 18
On youtube there are a lot of uneducated people who doesn’t case what reality is.
On quora people write opinions, try to explain and read (not just skip) other points of you.
In youtube agruments are just: China is shit, dictatorships, evil CCP, free Tibet etc. without any explanation. If you write China is not so bad - you are wumao. The end.

在 YouTube 上,有很多没有受过教育的人,他们不知道现实是什么。
在 Quora 上,人们撰写自己的意见,试着解释和阅读 (而不仅仅是跳过) 其他观点。
在 YouTube 上,往往是这样的:中国是狗屎等等,没有任何解释,如果你说上一句中国也不是那么坏——你是五毛,然后就没有然后了。

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