印度能变得比美国强大吗?我不能理解,那么多美国的印度精英为何不能为印度奉献 [美国媒体]

quora网友:为什么印度要变得和美国一样?为什么不打造一个更强大的印度呢?我想从一个印度家庭非常普遍的事件说起。在我们上学的日子里,甚至是在读本科的时候,我们的父母都会把我们的成绩,与我们的同学或邻居的其他孩子进行比较。我很讨厌这种做法,我相信我们大多数人都讨厌它。现在,你正在成为父母,我希望你能理解。

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印度能变得比美国强大吗?我不能理解,那么多美国的印度精英为何不能为印度奉献

Gagan Khanijau
Why like the States.. Why not a greater India.
I would start from a incident which is very muchcommon among Indian households. During our school days or even undergrad, ourParents used to compare our scores with our classmates or other children inneighborhood. I hated it a lot, I believe most of us did. Now, you are becominga parent, I hope you get it.
See, I will not be boasting about our country'sstrengths and like a patriot, I won't be defending for this comparison with US.The point is we get to such questions because we hear stories like luxuriouslifestyle, well developed societies, more earnings, better life, security, welleducated and liberal people, corruption free governance etc etc.. I have neverbeen to the US, but I can fairly vouch that such things might be there. Thetechnology is far more advanced there. Surely, a better abobe for future.
See coming to the facts, surely US is way aheadbut it has taken much amount of time to reach at this position and using themajor resources too. It has been more than 200 years since it's independence.If we look at the US after 60-70 years of independence it was way back ascompared to Indian position. Many doctrines and dogmas were still prent.Universities started to set up. States were fighting for their liberation. Itwasn't much stable. Afro-Americans fighting for their rights. Rather I wouldsay US got its real shape much later under leaders like Lincoln and MartinLuther King Jr. But it has grown to a great extent now. With much advancementsin technology, economy, research and many more fields it would not be wrong ifI say US retains an upper hand over world.
Whereas contrasting India's situation, I wouldsay the slope of development in India is much higher as compared to US inspiteof being through a upheaval of major wars(WW2, Indo-china, with Pak in1965,1971 and Kargil) and also a setback from partition. No doubt countrieslike Japan, South Korea, Singapore have much more steeper curves in terms ofdevelopment.
Now answering your question, surely India canrise up to a greater level. Surely, in terms of infrastructure, betterfacilities, good governance- which has already started taking shape :), betterjobs, education etc. I won't go into the historic milestones about the decimalsystem or Pythagoras. Rather, I would like to draw your attention that Indiahad started developing way before independence. With leaders like Raja RammohanRoy, Annie Basant our country started leaving old doctrines. Also by the 1850'sIndustrial Revolution took place. We got our Constitution from great leaderslike Sardar Vallabhai Patel and IITs and RITs were started in Nehru's reign.Also globalisation coming in the Early 1990's. So I would rather say India hasgone through major development even when most of the world's major resourceswere exploited by the developed nations. We are one the most culturally diversepopulation within a country. But still there is a lot of scope for improvement.We can learn from other nations and also provide an inch of effort as anindividual towards our country's development.
Surely, one major factor to improve is educationboth primary as well as higher studies. The creation of quality universitiesbrings in more research and in house solutions to problems we need to dealwith. Our country needed a quality leadership which I believe we have got onein the face of our PM Mr Modi. Also we need to look on our strengths i.e.Agriculture, Manufacturing, And IT industry which have a lot of potential tocreate wonders. Also in terms of facilities and infrastructure I would say it wouldtake atleast some more time probably a decade to create a standard of livinggoing par with the world standards.
Now a note to the Indian audience, these changescannot come just with the change in surroundings there needs to be a change inour mentally and social level of thinking. We need to contribute to our nationsprogress by doing our part, committing to our work, paying our taxes, excersingour right to vote wisely, maintaining healthy living standards, and last butnot the least considering our nation our home. Surely, this would pace ourdevelopment.
And now if we consider comparison at a globallevel. In my view, no country can now attain a greater authority at the un butsurely we might be able to see India as a permanent member soon. US surely hassome upper hand in terms of global position but it can be parallilized with thebetter advancements I listed above.
With an ending note I would say I don't wantIndia to be like US atleast for now because I don't want another Hilary andTrump drama here :p. Rather we are already equipped with our own Trump card whois said to be representing the youth.. Haha

为什么印度要变得和美国一样?为什么不打造一个更强大的印度呢?我想从一个印度家庭非常普遍的事件说起。在我们上学的日子里,甚至是在读本科的时候,我们的父母都会把我们的成绩,与我们的同学或邻居的其他孩子进行比较。我很讨厌这种做法,我相信我们大多数人都讨厌它。现在,你正在成为父母,我希望你能理解。

看,我不会吹嘘我们国家的实力,像一个爱国者一样,我不会为与我们的比较而辩护。问题的关键在于,我们之所以会遇到这样的问题,是因为我们听到这样的故事: 奢侈的生活方式、发达的社会、更多的收入、更好的生活、安全、受过良好教育的自由人士、腐败的自由治理等等。我从未去过美国,但我可以相当肯定地说,这些东西可能就在那里。那里的技术要先进得多。当然,将来会更好。

现在来看事实,美国肯定是走在前面的,但是美国花了很多时间,来到达这个位置并使用了大量的资源。美国独立已经有200多年了。如果我们看看独立60-70年后的美国,就会发现与印度相比,美国的地位要落后得多。许多教义和教条仍然盛行。大学开始建立。各国都在为解放而战。它不太稳定。非裔美国人争取他们的权利。相反,我想说的是,我们在林肯和马丁·路德·金等领导人的领导下获得了真正的美国人形像。随着科技、经济、研究和更多领域的进步,如果我说我们仍然在世界上占着上风,那也不会错。

与印度的情况相比,我认为印度的发展水平要比美国高得多,因为印度经历了大规模的战争(二战,印度支那,1965年,1971年和Kargil),以及分裂的挫折。毫无疑问,像日本、韩国、新加坡这样的国家在发展方面有着更陡峭的曲线。
现在回答你的问题,印度当然可以上升到更高的水平。



Sudheer Vemuri
yes of course it can be but it requiresfollowing exceptions and rules
1)it has to be free from corrupts
corruption is the main cause of backwardness ofnot only india but also entire world
2)it has to have responsible and punctualpeople and it has to come from each and every individual on their own
3)it has to have people who wants to live in abetter way because the development comes by the pressure of people
4)it has to have people who strive for knowledgeand there by leads to all round development since research has crucial role toplay for development
5)it has to have good politicians who neversuccumb for money but for development of country
6)it has to have good media which interlixs thepeople and politicians there by leads to direct interaction

当然可以,但需要尊重规则和可能的例外。
(1)它必须没有腐败。腐败不仅是印度落后的主要原因,也是整个世界落后的主要原因
(2)它必须要有负责的、守时的人,而且它必须来自每一个人
(3)它必须要有希望过上更好生活的人,因为发展是由人的压力决定的
(4)科学研究对发展起着至关重要的作用,因此,必须有追求知识、引领全面发展的人
(5)它必须有好的政治家,他们从不屈服于金钱,而是为了国家的发展
(6)它必须有良好的媒体,通过直接的交流将那里的人民和政治家联系起来

Sriram Renganathan
You have your own Identity wherever you go. Whatwould be your answer if I ask you “Why don’t you become a CEO,instead ofworking so hard for your Comapany”?.There is a long wayto go.
India is definitely a better place than manyother countries in this world. There are lot of other factors due to which wedo not witness a rapid growth like Japan and USA.
May be one of the reasons I relate to here isReservations.Yeah,If we provide opportunities for the downtrodden not at thecost of talented people we might not lose so many Talents like SundarPichai,Satya Nadella .If we encourage talented people and Invest a lot onTechnology (For Ex.I really dont see the government Investing on the next bigTechnology-3D Printing as much as the devoleped countries do). It is just oneof my Reasons that we can focus on.
We can hope to be a Better India and not likeUSA.Soon.

无论你走到哪里,你都有自己的身份。如果我问你:“你为什么不成为一名CEO,而是为公司努力工作呢?”印度还有很长的路要走。在这个世界上,印度绝对是一个比其他国家更好的地方。但是印度还缺乏很多其他因素,我们没有看到像日本和美国这样的快速增长。

是的,如果我们为受压迫的人提供机会,而不是以有才能的人为代价,我们就不会失去像SatyaNadella这样的人才。如果我们鼓励有才能的人,并在技术上投入大量的资金。我真的不认为政府对下一个大型技术3d印刷的投资会像那些正在发展的国家那样多。这只是我关注的原因之一。
我们可以梦想成为一个更伟大的印度,而不是变得像美国一样。

Parampreet Singh
We can build huge temples but not toilets,schools and hospitals.
We bribe money instead of producing properdocuments, and called government as corrupted.
We blame government for pollution, but burstcrackers on Diwali eve.
We buy latest cars, but don’t know what is use of low beam.
We enjoy exempted college fees to getengineering degrees, but can’t join DRDO/ISRO because they pay low.
We don’t want us to be called from a particular sect/caste as that’s demeaning, but demands quota/reservation saying we belong to thatcaste.
We spent lavishly in malls, but bargain for mere5 rupees with poor street vendor.
We don’t think for a second while washing our cars inefficiently, butblames city corporation when water shortage occurs.
We sell our votes in lieu of money and liquor,but blames government for not providing basic necessities.
We await annual budget each year and expectclauses for more tax exemptions, but procrastinate till last day of extendeddate of filing income tax return.
We prefer our own cars rather than publictransport, but blame others for traffic jams, and increased cars on roads.
We enjoy weddings, still keeping traditionalrituals and customs alive, but block traffic on road while baraat proceeding.(customary travel of bridegroom to the wedding venue)
We can spent money on watching movies of accusedGodlike stars which makes no sense, but one with public messages

我们可以建造巨大的寺庙,但不能修建厕所、学校和医院。
我们拿金钱做贿赂,而不是提供适当的文件证据,去状告政府腐败。
我们指责政府造成了污染,但在排灯节前夕却爆发了骚乱。
我们买的是最新款的汽车,但不知道什么是低梁。
我们享受免费的大学学费以获得工程学位,但不能加入DRDO/ISRO,因为薪水低。
我们不希望我们被从一个特定的教派或种姓中叫出来,因为那是在贬低我们,但我们要求配额/保留说我们属于那个种姓。

我们在购物中心花了很多钱,但只花了5卢比就和街头小贩讨价还价。
我们在洗车的时候不会想一秒钟,而是在缺水的时候把责任推给供水公司。
我们出售选票来换取金钱和酒,但指责政府没有提供基本必需品。
我们每年都在等待年度预算,并期待有更多免税的条款,但拖延到最后一天申报所得税的时候。
我们更喜欢自己的汽车而不是公共交通工具,但把交通堵塞和道路上汽车的增多归咎于别人。
我们喜欢婚礼,仍然保留着传统的仪式和习俗,但是在路上阻碍交通。(新郎前往婚礼场地的习惯行程)
我们可以把钱花在看电影上,这些电影毫无意义,但却是公开的信息。



Manish Kriplani
1. I don't want India to be like US.
2. Not only Indians living in US, or even inMiddle east, or anywhere else, but many Indians living in India are also doinggood things to make this country a better place.
3. Why Indians living in US can't do the same inIndia? Yes, we have our fair share of problems compared to US, but US has beenindependent since 1776. Initially they too had their issues but they havesorted these out (?) . It takes time to shape a country that is as big, and asdiverse, as India or US.
4. I too would like to blame government for theslow speed with which we are moving forward, corruption, infra, state ofhealth, education and sanitation. BUT people of this country, collectively, toowill have to take responsibility for endorsing politics of cast, religion,region, hatred and ideology. Development doesn't belong to any ideology.
5. Like US, we are a democracy, have freedom ofspeech, freedom for minorities, equality, liberty etc, constitutionally. That'swhat we want our country to be. We haven't reached there but with activeparticipation of every Indian, living in India or not, we definitely will.

1、我才不希望印度变得像美国一样。
2、不仅是居住在美国、甚至中东或其他地方的印度人,还有许多居住在印度的印度人,也在为使这个国家变得更美好做着有益的事情。

3、为什么生活在美国的印度人不能在印度做同样的事情?是的,与美国相比,我们有相当多的问题,但美国自1776年以来就独立了。起初他们也有自己的问题,但他们已经解决了,要塑造一个像印度或我们这样的大国和多元化的国家,需要时间。

4、我也要谴责政府,因为我们前进的速度缓慢,腐败,污染,健康,教育和卫生状况。但是,这个国家的人民,也将不得不承担起支持政治、宗教、地区、仇恨和意识形态的责任。发展不属于任何意识形态。

5、和美国一样,我们是民主国家,在宪法上有言论自由、少数民族自由、平等自由等。这就是我们希望我们的国家成为的样子。我们还没有到达那里,但是每个印度人都积极参与,生活在印度,我们肯定会。

Ganesh Purohit
Of course it is possible just like Singapore dida complete turnaround of its economy after its independence. However Singaporehad a group of very educated and secular leaders who put national interestbefore personal gains. The rot in Indian political space will not let Indiapursue it's obxtive of nation building. First the country will need to riditself of its corrupt politicians. That can only be done when well meaningyoungsters take over the political space. Unfortunately smart and committedyoungsters are easily able to relocate to developed countries so there are fewwho would want to take on the mantle of changing the system. The other biggestissue is the division of the country into caste vote banks, which has dividedthe country. A divided population can never aspire for collective growth.

当然,这是有可能的,就像新加坡独立后经济完全好转一样。然而,新加坡有一群受过良好教育的世俗领导人,他们把国家利益置于个人利益之上。印度政治空间的腐朽将不会让印度追求其国家建设的目标。首先,这个国家需要摆脱腐败的政客。

只有善意的年轻人接管了政治空间,才能做到这一点。不幸的是,聪明和忠诚的年轻人很容易就能移居到发达国家,所以很少有人愿意承担起改变体制的重任。另一个最大的问题是将国家划分为种姓票仓,这导致了国家的分裂。分裂的人口永远不可能渴望集体增长。



Pole Aryan
Just the realization that at some point of timethe world looked at us, learned from us to teach us in present times.
Just the realization that we are a free nationwith the slave mindset courtesy to long term slavery.
Just the realization that the potential lies ingetting connected with our deep core.
We need not be like US. We just need to be likeus . the forgotten us.

当我们意识到,全世界都在看着我们,想从我们身上吸取各种教训的时候。
当我们意识到我们是一个自由的国家,但却有着奴隶的心态,长期的奴隶制度的时候。
当我们意识到我们内心深处的潜能的时候。
我们其实不应该变得像美国一样。我们只要成为我们自己,那个早已经被遗忘的自己!

Divya Rawa
I don't think so because of the poor conditionsof the people living in cities as poor citizens

我觉得这是不可能的。印度城市里居民们的生活质量,实在是太差了。

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