在电视剧“老友记”中,谁是这个团体的支柱? [美国媒体]

quora网友:如果你问的是谁总是支持并保持这个团体团结在一起的人,我会认为是菲比。我知道大多数人会说莫妮卡,因为她和别人都有最初的联系,而她实际上是他们第一次被带到一起的原因。的确,她总是当主人招待其他人,但她有强烈的强迫症而且好胜,有时会让她显得自私......

In the TV show "Friends," who was the backbone of the group?

在电视剧“老友记”中,谁是这个团体的支柱?





Achyut Telang, Fan of FRIENDS
Answered Nov 24
Achyut Telang, 老友记粉丝
11-24日回答
If you are asking about the one who always supported and kept the group together, I would go for Phoebe.
I know most people would say Monica since she had the original links with others and she was in fact the reason they were brought together in the first place. It’s true that she always played host but she was obsessive and competitive which at times made her selfish.
Phoebe was the outsider, the one who wasn't related to anyone nor a room-mate for most of the time. But still whenever the group was on the verge of breaking up, it was Phoebe who stepped up strongly to keep the group together. Whenever it was a dire and critical situation, it was the same weird and crazy Phoebe who was now the voice of reason. Following are some instances:

如果你问的是谁总是支持并保持这个团体团结在一起的人,我会认为是菲比。
我知道大多数人会说莫妮卡,因为她和别人都有最初的联系,而她实际上是他们第一次被带到一起的原因。的确,她总是当主人招待其他人,但她有强烈的强迫症而且好胜,有时会让她显得自私。
而菲比是一个局外人,她既不是其他人的亲戚,大部分时间也不是其他人的室友。但每当这个团体濒临崩溃边缘时,菲比总是站出来,强烈的维护这个团体。不管出现多么可怕和严峻的情况,怪异和疯狂的菲比总是发出理性声音的那一个。以下是几个例子:

1. S1E23 The One with the Birth- Ross and Susan never got along and couldn't stand each other either. When Ross and Susan were fighting while Carol was about to give birth, it was Phoebe who took them aside and calmed them down.
“When I was growing up, you know, my dad left and my mother died and my stepfather went to jail, so I barely had enough pieces of parents to make one whole one. Here's this little baby who has three whole parents who care about it so much that they're fighting over who gets to love it the most, and it's not even born yet. It's just the luckiest baby in the whole world.”
It was only after this that Ross resolved his issues and managed to work it out with the family. She also helped them indirectly pick the name Ben!

1,第1季第23集 - 本出生,罗斯和苏珊合不来也无法相互理解。当罗斯和苏珊在吵架的时候卡罗尔即将分娩,是菲比把他们拉到一边,让他们平静下来。
“在我成长的过程中,你知道,我的父亲离开了,我的母亲去世了,我的继父进了监狱,我根本得不到父母的爱,如今这个小孩有如此爱他的三个父母,甚至为谁给他的爱最多而吵架,而且他根本还未出世。他真是全天下最幸福的宝宝。”
在这之后,罗斯开始解决他自己的问题,并开始接纳这个家庭。她还间接帮助选择了本这个名字!

2. S2E13 The One after the Superbowl- When Rachel and Monica were fighting over Jean-Claude Van Damme, it was Phoebe who intervened both times. First time when they fought after flicking each other -
“OK, now I'm gonna kick some ass. [Phoebe grabs each of them by an ear]. Alright, now I will let go if you both stop.”
The next time when they were fighting:
“Oh alright, stop, STOP THE MADNESS. This is crazy. Who can even remember why this even started in the first place? [Monica and Rachel start yelling at the same time] Yes that's right. But still, I-, look at your purse, look at your sweater, look at yourselves.”
Whenever the fights crossed a certain boundary, there was Phoebe with the damage control.

2,第2季第13集,超级碗后 - 当瑞秋和莫妮卡为了Jean-Claude Van Damme吵架时,菲比两次出手干预。第一次是在互相拍打对方的时候 -
“好了,现在我要发威了。【菲比拧住了她们的耳朵。】。好了,如果你们都停下来,我就放手。”
下一次当她们吵架的时候:
”好了,住手,你们别疯了!你们两个疯了!现在你们谁还记得你们本来在吵些什么东西吗?【莫妮卡和瑞秋同时开始叫喊】对,没错。但是…,看看你的皮包,看看你的毛衣,看看你们两个人。“
每当吵架过分了之后,是菲比在做伤害控制。

3. S3E17 The One without the Ski-trip- It was Phoebe who kept the group together after the Ross-Rachel breakup threatened to split the group-
“Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey!! Hey!!! (they all stop fighting, Chandler continues to dance.) Look what you’re doing to Chandler!! (Chandler finally stops) (to Ross and Rachel) Yeah, look, we know this is really, really hard for you guys. Okay? (Ross starts to leave) You don’t, all right you don’t have to love each other, okay? You don’t, you don’t even have to like each other much right now. But please, you have to figure out a way to be around each other. Yeah, otherwise, I mean that’s, that’s, that’s just it for us hanging out together. Y'know is that what you want? (they both look away) Can you be civil?”
The biggest threat of the group splitting up was averted by Phoebe.

3,第3季第17集 - 滑雪之旅 - 当罗斯-瑞秋的分手可能要分裂这个团体的时候,是菲比将他们团结在一起。
“嘿!嘿!嘿!嘿!!嘿!!!(他们都停止吵架,钱德勒继续跳舞。)你们把钱德害得多惨!!!(钱德勒最终停止)(转到罗斯和瑞秋)听着,我们知道你们都很难受,(罗斯开始离开)你们不必爱对方,你们现在甚至不必喜欢对方,但是请设法和平相处。否则我们以后就不用在一起了。你们真的想这样?(他们都把目光移开)讲理一点好吗?”
使这个团体分裂的最大威胁被菲比摆平了。

4. S9E18 The One with the Lottery- When they all bought lottery tickets, Monica secretly hid a few tickets, while Phoebe tried hard to keep it all together-
“Oh, you guys! We've got to keep all the tickets together. OOOOOHHHHH! (she stops) Fine, I can't take it anymore! I'm putting an end to this! (she goes out to the balcony). If we are not doing it together, we're not doing it at all! So, say goodbye to your tickets! (She holds out the bowl, and makes as to drop the tickets on the street). Don't come any closer! No, what's more important, your friends or money?”
When Monica and others acted very selfishly, Phoebe was the only one who brought them together.

4,第9季第18集 - 博彩 - 当他们都买彩票时,莫妮卡暗中藏了几张票,而菲比则努力把它们放在一起 -
“别乱来,彩票还得放一起。哦!!!!(她停止了)受不了了!你们怎么这样!我要了结这个事!(她走出去到了阳台上)。要么一起玩,要么谁都别想玩!跟彩票道别吧(她把碗伸出去,做出要把彩票丢到大街上的样子)。不许靠近!不,什么更重要,朋友还是金钱?”
当莫妮卡和其他人表现的很自私的时候,菲比是唯一一个将他们团结在一起的人。

Besides this, she was always helping others in some way-
Paid Chandler to quit smoking
Broke up with Janice on behalf of Chandler
Disguised as Ursula so that Joey doesn't get hurt
Took a dart to help Ross keep Marcel
Let Monica take the job as head chef despite their catering plan
Went out of her way to convince Earl not to commit suicide
Supported Frank Jr. by having his kids
Gave the birthing video
Suggested a couple who had adopted
Offered to Baby-sit the triplets
Set up friends on dates many times
Helped Chandler with his interview skills
Helped Joey get auditions by pretending to be an agent
Tried to teach Joey guitar and French
Gave up being Monica’s maid of honour for Rachel in spite of having the chance.

除此之外,她一直以某种方式在帮助别人 - 
给钱德勒钱让他戒烟
代表钱德勒与珍妮斯分手
伪装厄苏拉已免让乔伊受伤
用一个飞镖帮助罗斯留住马塞尔
尽管他们有一个承办酒席的计划,仍然让莫妮卡担任主厨
跑去竭力说服额儿不要自杀
为她的弟弟弗兰克代孕
给分娩视频
给一对收养孩子的夫妇提建议
愿意照顾三胞胎
多次在约会时结交朋友
帮助钱德勒提升他的面试技巧
通过冒充代理人帮助乔伊试镜
试图教乔伊吉他和法
让瑞秋成为莫妮卡的伴娘尽管她也有机会。

She also played a big role in helping Ross and Rachel get back together knowing that he was her lobster- She got Ross to the airport somehow, called Rachel on the plane because of which they all got down, when the attendant didn't allow them to go in, she screamed and got her attention so that Ross could speak to Rachel because of which she ultimately came back.
Perhaps it was because she grew up in such an environment where she didn't really have a family- mother’s suicide, father abandoned her, step-dad in prison and not on talking terms with her twin sister. Hence, she really valued her friendship and never let that break up, no matter what. Reason, logic or force- she did everything that was required.
Phoebe - the unsung hero!

她还在帮助罗斯和瑞秋重归于好中扮演了一个重大的角色,她知道他是她的龙虾(译者注:美国俚语,含义:你是我的最爱。因为年纪很大的龙虾还是会手牵着手在海底散步的。于是,龙虾就成了坚贞不渝的爱情的代名词。)她把罗斯弄到机场,然后在飞机上打电话给瑞秋,因为他俩都下了飞机了,当机场人员不允许他们进入的时候,她开始尖叫吸引注意力,以让罗斯可以和瑞秋说话,最终瑞秋回来了。
也许是因为她成长在一个事实上没有家庭的环境 - 母亲自杀,父亲抛弃,继父进监狱,更不要提和她双胞胎姐姐的关系。
因此,她真的很看重她的友谊,决不让他们破裂,不管发生什么。理性、有逻辑或者暴力 - 她做了所需要的一切。
菲比 - 无名的英雄。

Scott Lowe
Answered Sep 21, 2017
Scott Lowe
2017-9-21回答
It was clearly Monica.
She provided the link between Rachael and the rest of the group.
It is never clear how exactly Phoebe became part of the group, but it seems likely it was due to originally being roommates with Monica.
It was her apartment in which the bulk of the series took place. Which was right across the hall from Chandler and Joey’s apartment.
Monica was either at the core or the instigator of some of the best episodes and story arcs (in my opinion, ‘The One With All the Embryos’, most of the Thanksgiving episodes, her marriage to Chandler).
She was clearly the core of the group and without her, the series would not have had the success it did.



显然是莫妮卡
她提供了瑞秋和其他人之间的联系
目前还不清楚菲比是如何成为这一群体的一员,但这似乎是由于她最初是莫妮卡的室友。
她的公寓是大部分故事发生的地方,就在钱德勒和乔伊公寓的对门。
莫妮卡是一些最好的情节和故事的核心或者触发者(在我看来,“受精卵”【译者注:第4季第12集】,大部分的感恩节剧情,她嫁给钱德勒)。
她明显是这个团体的核心,没有她的话,这个系列就不会这么成功。

Ameya Kale, Author (2016-present)
Answered Sep 22, 2017
Ameya Kale,作者(2016-至今)
2017-9-22日回答
I’d say Joey. He was there when each and every friend needed help. Let’s recap.
He tried so hard to be friends with Janice even when he hates her.
He gave Ross advice over the phone when Ross got stuck in his leather pants.
He completed one of Phoebe’s to-do things by kissing her, which was the only thing he could do out of the others.
He accepted Chandler’s punishment was over when Kathy was going to break up with him.
He taught Ross how to talk dirty.
He helped Monica when she took those cooking lessons again.
He tried to break the news of Janice’s betrayal to Chandler and handled the conversation properly by telling him how it was bad for the kid Janice had with her husband.
He helped Rachel A LOT during her pregnancy.
He prayed that Chandler would get the job instead of the six of them winning the lottery.
These are just the top of my head。

我想说乔伊。他给他的朋友们提供了很多的帮助。让我们回顾一下。
虽然他不喜欢珍妮斯,但仍然努力和她做朋友。
当罗斯被皮裤卡住的时候,他通过电话给罗斯提建议。
他吻了菲比,帮助她完成了一个未了的心愿,这是他唯一能帮她完成的。
当凯西和她分手的时候,他接受了钱德勒的自我惩罚。
他教会了罗斯如何说“猥琐”的话。
当莫妮卡再次上烹饪课的时候,他帮助了她。
他试图把珍妮丝对钱德勒的背叛的消息告诉他,并告诉他如果继续和珍妮斯下去,对珍妮斯和她丈夫的孩子很不好。
在瑞秋怀孕期间他提供了很多帮助。
他祈祷钱德勒获得那个工作,而不是他们六个人赢得彩票。
这些只是我直接想到的。

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