欧盟考虑要求美国人办签证 [美国媒体]

据星期4的一则报道称,欧盟正在考虑改变规定,要求美国人和加拿大人去28国集团旅游之前,要先取得护照。美国网友:算了吧,你用一些词语将Obungle和极端分子作区分也并不能改变什么。需要签证这本来就不是问题,出国旅游当然需要签证, 如果你在国外要开车的话还得获得国际驾照呢。


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The European Union is considering changing rules to require that Americans and Canadians obtain a visa before traveling to the 28-nation bloc, according to a report on Thursday. 

据星期4的一则报道称,欧盟正在考虑改变规定,要求美国人和加拿大人去28国集团旅游之前,要先取得护照。

By next Tuesday, the European Commission must decide whether or not to impose new visa requirements for foreign countries that have similar measures in place for European travelers — and there is a “real risk” that the U.S. and Canada could be subject to new demands, an EU source told Reuters.

到下个星期2,欧盟委员会必须决定要不要对那些对欧洲旅游者有类似的(签证)要求的国家实施新的签证要求----而美国和加拿大非常有可能受到新措施的影响,一位欧盟消息人士对路透社讲。

“A political debate and decision is obviously needed on such an important issue,” the unidentified source added.

”这么重要的事情,很明显需要一场政治讨论,才可以做出决定。“一位不知名人士补充道。

A State Department official said that the possibility was a topic of discussion among U.S. and European diplomats.

美国国务院一官员称这种可能性是美欧外交官之间的一个讨论话题。

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“We have been engaging with EU officials — as well as officials from those member states that do not enjoy visa-free travel to the United States—on this matter,” the official said.

”在这个问题上我们和欧盟官员交涉过,也和那些来美国旅游没有免签证的国家的官员交涉过,”这个官员说。

New visa requirements would amount to a dramatic change for North American travelers going to the EU, and would likely be met with severe pushback from Washington.

新签证要求会引起北美旅游者去欧盟的巨大变动,可能面临华盛顿方面的重大阻力。

Extra requirements would also likely be opposed by business groups, because visa obligations would surely dent European tourism.

额外的要求可能会遭到集团企业的反对,因为签证要求必然会削弱欧洲的旅游业。

The U.S. excludes multiple European nations from a program allowing tourists from 38 countries to enter the country for a period of 90 days. Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, Croatia and Cyprus are all not covered under that arrangement, known as the visa waiver program.

美国有一个免签证计划,允许38个国家的游客进入美国90天,而很多欧盟国家被排除在这个计划之外,包括波兰,保加利亚,罗马尼亚,塞浦路斯,克罗地亚。


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Daxis  Guest • 4 days ago
cponthrock actually has a point considering white-wing terrorists have killed more Americans than Jihadists have since 9/11.
http://securitydata.newamerica...

自911以来,实际上那些白人恐怖分子比那些圣战分子杀了更多美国人。
 
SeeThroughYou  Daxis • 4 days ago
Horse Crap, Obungle's policy of calling Islamic Terrorism "Workplace Violence and other nonsense doesn't even come close to presenting an accurate picture.
Couple that with Leftist loonies like the Aurora Theater shooter and the VA Tech Shooter whom the media refuses to identify as such and your narrative is instantly as hollow as your soul..

全都是废话,奥巴马的政策是将伊斯兰恐怖主义称为“工作场所的暴力行为”,这根本没有找到问题的关键。像Aurora剧院枪击者和VA理工学院的枪击者这些左派狂人分子,媒体都不愿将他们视为恐怖分子,他们说的话就像他们的灵魂一样空洞。

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AdmiralJ  SeeThroughYou • 3 days ago
In San Bernadino, that was work place violence. Fa roook and co workers had a history of heated, loud and contentious arguments over religion. The Christmas party was the perfect place for him to attack. All the people whom he held a grudge against would be in one place at the same time.
Ask yourself this. What self respecting terrorists would choose a small county health dept. Christmas party as their signature target to establish credibility as terrorists?

在圣伯纳第,那是一次工作场所的暴力行为。Fa roook和他的同事因为宗教问题有过激烈的争论。圣诞聚会对他来说是一个完美的攻击场所,因为他所有憎恨的人都在同一时间聚集在同一地点。扪心自问,怎么会有一个要强的恐怖分子选择一个乡村医疗部门进行恐怖袭击,圣诞聚会是一个恐怖分子建立声誉的好地方吗?

Dorian  Guest • 3 days ago
I guess you have to specify "Islamic Terrorism" because if you are going to count any random act of violence as Terrorism than the thousands of murders Committed by Christians in the U.S would make for some pretty grim statistics

我认为你应该特别说明“伊斯兰恐怖主义”,因为如果你将任何随机的暴力行为都称为恐怖主义,那么美国基督徒所犯下的成千上万的谋杀案件将变成一个难看的数据。

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SeeThroughYou  Dorian • 3 days ago
No, not really, those ostensibly "Christian" people are killing each other over criminal enterprise or conflicts arising from competition for turf, drugs, women, ect 99% of the time and they are diametrically opposed to any form of Orthodox Christian teaching the moment they take a human life regardless of their victim's religion or actions and they will spend eternity in hell by their own religion's dictates for doing so.
A Muslim on the other hand eats bonbons from the hands of virgin child sex slaves in paradise if he kills someone who draws cartoons that hurt their feelings,insults their violent misogynistic beliefs or merely chooses to be a homosexual, lol
Your attempts at some sort of moral equivalence are utter foolstuffing.

那些表面看起来是“基督徒”的人们他们互相杀戮是为了竞争地盘、毒品、女人等等,他们在杀人的时候是反对正统基督教教义的,不管受害人信奉何种宗教亦或采取了什么行动,也不管自己的所作所为会不会像自己所信奉的宗教教义所说的那样导致自己下地狱。
而穆斯林就不一样了,如果他们杀死画漫画侮辱自己宗教感情的人,或者杀死中伤他们那暴力的厌恶女性的信念的人,或者仅仅因为你是同性恋者而杀死你,那么他们死后就可以上天堂并接受处女儿童性奴的服务,哈哈
而你在道德上把这两种人(穆斯林和基督徒)画等号真是愚蠢。

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Able Danger  bordway • 3 days ago
Charles Manson - Really?
You must be a Manson follower.

你是说Charles Manson(着名的杀人狂)也是基督教徒,你是认真的吗?
你肯定是一个曼森追随者(曼森家族,一群仰慕曼森的追随者所组成的杀人集团)。

bordway  Able Danger • 3 days ago
Really? Well since Manson thought (or thinks) he was Christ, you don't get much more Christian than that.

是吗?可是曼森认为他是基督转世,你可不能找到比他更基督教化的人了。

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Able Danger  bordway • 2 days ago
Well you know that is a lie. You don't get any less Christian than a axxhole that carves a swastika between his eyes.

 那不过是他的谎言罢了。怎么会有基督教徒在两眼之间刻上纳粹的标记。
 
oldschool  SeeThroughYou • 3 days ago
Using one word or another does not change the outcome just divides the conversation just like you did using divisive words like Obungle and loonies. The fact that we may need a visa is fine years ago you had to get a visa and an international drivers license if you planned to drive.

 算了吧,你用一些词语将Obungle和极端分子作区分也并不能改变什么。需要签证这本来就不是问题,出国旅游当然需要签证, 如果你在国外要开车的话还得获得国际驾照呢。
 
Lincoln  SeeThroughYou • 3 days ago
"VA Tech Shooter whom the media refuses to identify as such"
really? do you have ANY evidence at all to support your point? Cho had resident alien status making him ineligible to vote

“媒体拒绝承认VA理工学院的枪击者为恐怖分子”
真的吗,你有证据吗?周是一个外国人的身份,不能投票。

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SeeThroughYou  Lincoln • 3 days ago
George Bush and Rich White Kids were his motivation for the shooting, lol

小布什还有富有的白人小孩是他的攻击目标,哈哈。 
 
Batters Box  Daxis • 2 days ago
BS idiot..

 废话,蠢货。。。
 
Monte  Guest • 4 days ago
It's even more sad democrats call fellow citizens radicals but not the actual radical a radial.

 更令人痛心的是,民主党把普通人叫做激进分子,而不去管那些真正的激进分子。
 
oldschool  Monte • 3 days ago
We do not find the need to separate a radical citizen with a gun from a radical christian with a gun from a radical muslim with a gun since the end result is the same .

 我们不需要去区分那些激进分子是基督徒还是穆斯林,因为他们导致的后果都是一样的。
 
Mika  Guest • 3 days ago
the only deranged ones are the rethuglicans. They belong in camps and should never be allowed to leave.

唯一疯狂的就是共和党人。他们应该呆在营地里永远不出来。

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Able Danger  Mika • 3 days ago
Oh no you belong in Chicago with the rest of Obama's thugs.

 哦,不,你应该和奥巴马的暴徒一起呆在芝加哥。
 
Hilltowntrader  Guest • 4 days ago
Bigotry and hate speach takes many forms.

偏见和仇恨有很多种形式。 
 
Hilltowntrader  Guest • 4 days ago
Or the thousands on the no fly list or those under investigation by the FBI for terrorism in each of the 50 states.
We have far too many radicalized Muslims here; EU is reasonable in wanting to screen visitors.
Of course it would need to do the same for "migrants" flowing in from Africa and Turkey.

每一个州都有成千上万的禁飞名单或者被FBI当作潜在恐怖分子进行调查的人。
这里有太多激进的穆斯林;欧盟想要筛选游客是合理的。
当然对于那些从非洲和土耳其来的“移民”,我们也要一视同仁。

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Helen McR  Guest • 3 days ago
Rednecks? What rednecks? Is Obama a redneck? It's the Muslims that are terrorizing the world that they are afraid of because Obama is letting them in here to congregate and plan on their terrorism. If they become 'American' citizens, they can roam the world free to terrorize.

 红脖子?什么叫红脖子?奥巴马算吗?这些人不过是害怕那些穆斯林的恐怖分子,奥巴马让他们来到美国继续他们的恐怖活动。如果他们成为了美国人,他们会威胁整个世界。
 
Tafiq Khoury  Guest • 3 days ago
Nah.. Most trailer trash can't afford to travel to Europe...

不。。。大部分垃圾没钱去欧洲旅游。。。
 
Suzyqpie  Guest • 4 days ago
Linguistic etiquette requires you to use "self-radicalized lone wolf violent extremist." Thus avoiding the "I" word and the "M" word.

文明用语要求我们采用“激进的独狼式暴力极端主义者”这样的词语来形容他们。这样就可以避免使用I(伊斯兰)和M(穆斯林)这些词汇了。
 
SeeThroughYou • 4 days ago
Hahahah! A place chock full of Islamic terrorists needs visas from Americans and Canadians?
Hahahahaha!
Eurabia is a friggin joke, lol

哈哈哈!一个充斥着伊斯兰恐怖分子的地方竟然还要求美国和加拿大人签证?
哈哈哈!
欧洲就是一个该死的笑话。

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Hard Little Machine • 4 days ago
Funny as hell. Ok, keep your terrorists, Europe.

太搞笑了。好吧,欧洲佬,留着你们的恐怖分子吧。
 
Hilltowntrader  Hard Little Machine • 4 days ago
The FBI has terrorism investigation underway in all 50 states; Europe might be wise to screen folks coming from the US, at least against the no fly list and other terrorist watch lists.

联邦调查局在所有50个州都开展了恐怖主义调查;欧洲对于从那些美国来的至少是被(恐怖分子筛选中心)列入禁飞名单或者在恐怖分子监视表上的家伙进行筛选,应该是明智之举。
 
ololuge  Hilltowntrader • 3 days ago
And BO has let at least 1,000 so-called 'refugees' into the US in the dead of night.... And he plans at least 10,000. Do you really think they were properly vetted?

奥巴马让至少1,000名所谓的“难民”在夜深人静时进入了美国......而他计划至少引进1万名。你真的认为他们被合适地审查过吗?
 
Truthbetold • 4 days ago
Hilarious....considering one of the brussel bombers worked for the EU parliament

好笑......想想看布鲁塞尔爆炸案其中一个案犯在欧盟议会工作。

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