修复一幅19世纪期的破损油画 [美国媒体]

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aloofloofah 1.2k points·17 hours ago
Before & after

修复前&修复后



Dd_8630 645 points·14 hours ago
Oh wow it's so crisp! The 'before' has a nice cracking and yellowing to it but the colours of the 'after' are so bold. It did surprise me that he actually re-paints some of the details - I can imagine future art historians looking at these details and thinking "These were done with a 21st-century brush it's clearly a forgery!".

哦，哇，太新了！修之前有个很好的开裂和年代久远的柔黄感，修复后的颜色实在太新了。让我惊讶的是，他真的有重新描绘画上的一些细节——我可以想象未来的艺术史学家们看到这些细节，会认为“这些是用21世纪的画笔完成的，这显然是赝品！”  

Asreal93 251 points·13 hours ago
i was wondering this.. also if there is discussions in the art world if this dues the original or not. It kinda does not sit all that well with me and i am not that into old oil paintings at all really.

我也好奇这个....在艺术界里有这还算不算原画的争论。我不是很喜欢这个，我对老油画也没什么兴趣。



I focus on videos produced by art museums themselves because they reflect what I assume to be the cutting-edge techniques and best practices for art restoration. Please explore the YouTube suggested videos for much much more!

我关注的是艺术博物馆自己制作的视频，因为它们反映了我所认为的艺术修复的尖端技术和最佳实践。油管上有很多值得推荐的视频！

Edit: To add that you can find videos of talented dedicated restorers conserving drawings maps textiles sculptures furniture architectural/design elements artifacts and more! For anyone interested in art history science or curious about the painstaking yet satisfying process of preserving items of cultural importance I highly recommend falling down this YouTube worm hole!

另注：要补充的是，你能找到有才华的专业修复者有关修复绘画、地图、纺织品、雕塑、家具、建筑/设计元素、艺术品等的视频！对于任何对艺术、历史、科学感兴趣或好奇那辛苦却很有满足成就感的保护文物过程的人来说，我强烈建议入坑油管！

mjmcaulay 10 points·9 hours ago
I think it would be a very satisfying but nerve wracking job. The thought of screwing up a irreplaceable piece of art makes me shudder.

我认为这是一份很有成就感却令人紧张不已的工作。一想到可能把一件不可替代的艺术品搞砸，我就不寒而栗。

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kiss-kiss-bang-bangg 10 points·6 hours ago
I'm a little confused as to why he added the scratches to the cracks. It looked to me like those cracks were from age and I thought he was going to paint over that too but then he added to them. Do you have any ideas about this?

我有点不明白他为什么要把裂缝重新画上去。在我看来，这些裂缝都是因年代久远造成的，我原以为他会重涂把（那些裂缝）盖掉，但后面他又重新画上去了。你对此有什么想法吗？

TrixiesAutoharp 10 points·6 hours ago
I think the goal is not not lose any of the original paint when possible while removing any paint from previous restorations that has discolored due to age or something like that.
This canvas looks like it was very dirty had undergone previous restorations and had tears and patches on the canvas itself. You see the conservator repair a tear by applying a type of glue along both sides and then laying threads across almost like “stitches” before laying a weight on them to dry.

​我认为，修复的目标是尽可能地维持原有的涂料，同时去除之前由于时间或其他原因而褪色的涂料。这幅油画看起来很脏，你能看出它之前有修复过，同时画布上有裂纹和斑点。你可以看到，修复者通过在两边都涂上一种胶水，然后在把重物压在上面晾干之前，粘上线将（裂掉的两边）缝在了一起，就像“缝针”一样。

The conservator also scrapes off some old paint (either not original or less likely irreversibly damaged original paint). In areas where the original paint has been lost the restorer carefully matches the shade of the original painting and fills it in. You even see the restorer painting in cracks as they appear in the original to make a repainted section less noticeable!

修复者还刮掉了一些旧油漆（不是原画的油漆，有可能是之前那次修复时涂上的不可复原的油漆）。在原画油漆丢失的地区，修复者小心翼翼地调出与原画的色调相匹配的颜色，并将其填满。你甚至可以看到修复者把裂缝也复原了，使重新上色的部分变得不那么明显突兀！

These are all educated guesses from a guy who loves art and has watched a lot of videos about this. I am far from an expert and welcome someone with more knowledge to inform us all!

这些都是来自一个热爱艺术看过很多此类视频的人的有根据的猜测。我就是业余的，欢迎专业人士来科普我们所有人！

PM_ME_UR_BIZ_IDEAS 16 points·13 hours ago
Wondering the same thing. I thought collectors like it original even if it looks like shit

想了解类似的修复工作。我认为收藏家都喜欢原作，即使原作跟狗屎一样难看。

twystoffer 47 points·13 hours ago
It depends. Part of what art restoration does is repair damage and prevent further damage. In a sense it's protecting an investment.

视情况而定。修复文物的一部分是修复损坏的地方并防止进一步的损坏。从某种意义上说，这是在保护投资。



rozyhammer 195 points·14 hours ago
I found that deeply satisfying we need r/ArtRestorationPorn.

这主意好啊，我们需要一个修复文物黄片（ArtRestorationPorn）的子版块。
（译注：Porn在这里并不是指真的毛片，而是给喜好某事物的人专用的网站等，就好比摩登家庭里的Claire会看的“Organization Porn”）



chulengo 171 points·10 hours ago
Cut the porn suffix already.

（楼上的！）把porn这个后缀去掉。

zer0w0rries 29 points·8 hours ago
I think I read a while back about a lady who had an Instagram account titled "babyporn" which was meant to be cute pictures of her kids. Not sure if still around and I'm afraid to Google it.

我想我之前曾看过一个女士的Instagram账号名为“babyporn”，其实是指她孩子们的可爱照片。不确定是否还在，我不敢用谷歌搜（babyporn）。

otherwhiteshadow 60 points·9 hours ago
God yes please yes.

天哪，设吧设吧，快设个这样的子版块。

fossilized-jellybean 52 points·14 hours ago
Anyone know what that white paste is that he's using for the restoration?

有人知道他用来修复的白色糊糊是什么吗？

aloofloofah 50 points·13 hours ago
Seems like each restorer has their own mix. Typically they use some form of spirit and turpentine among other solvents depending on the type of varnish they're removing.
https://mymodernmet.com/art-restoration-philip-mould/
https://www.oldsarumgallery.com/restoration-of-fine-art
http://www.restoration-advice.org/Pages/paintings.html

每个修复者似乎都有自己的独特秘方。通常情况下，这个配方是酒精和松节油混合其他溶剂的混合物，这取决于要去除的清漆的种类。

DardaniaIE 16 points·12 hours ago
Really interesting. Do they ever reapply a varnish to protect it later?

真的很有趣。他们后面会不会再涂一层清漆来保护画呢？

aloofloofah 32 points·12 hours ago
Yes with modern non-yellowing varnish

会的，用现代的非黄色清漆。

friedreindeer 12 points·11 hours ago
Not always dammar is still frequently used as modern varnishes (laropal regalrez) have a somewhat plastic appearance. It is just accepted that varnish renewals have to be done every 50 or so years.

不总是这样，达玛树脂仍然经常被用作现代的清漆（laropal，regalrez[两个品牌]），有点透明塑料的质感。一般认为，每隔50年左右就必须进行清漆翻新。

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kymray 18 points·12 hours ago
I think I just found my calling in life... Do museums employ felons?

我想我刚刚找到了我的人生使命……博物馆要重罪犯吗？

switchNat 5 points·10 hours ago
I'm always kinda disappointed when they touch up a painting. Cleaning is fine I guess but I kind of feel like it shouldn't be touched.

当他们给一幅画重新上色时，我总是很失望。我认为清理是可以的，但我觉得它不应该被重新上色。

Category5worrycane 2 points·7 hours ago
Most stressful jobs in the world:
Minesweeper
Politician
Crab fisherman
Painting restoration
Firefighter

世界上最有压力的工作：扫雷员、政治家、捕蟹渔夫、油画修复者和消防员。

aloofloofah 13 points·12 hours ago
Oil paintings are 'sealed' with varnish. They mostly replace yellow dirty varnish layer with new non-yellowing one not repaint it.

油画是用清漆“密封”的。它们主要是用新的非黄色清漆代替黄色的脏漆层，而不是重新涂色漆。