reddit网友:我第一次去中国出差,和我父亲一起去,待了一个月左右。我还在台湾待了一年作为交换生,所以当人们问我为什么我会说中文或者问我是不是之前来过中国,我就说在台湾做过一年交换生。让我惊讶的是我听到好多中国人说和大陆相比台湾多么穷......
Why do Chinese think China is much richer than Taiwan?
为什么大陆人认为大陆比台湾富有?
u/ragnarokyohoe
I had my first business trip in China with my dad spending around a month there. I spent a year in taiwan as exchange so a lot of times when people ask how I speak Chinese or have I been to China before I tell them about my year exchange. What shocked me a lot is how many times iv heard Chinese saying Taiwan is so poor now compared to us and they are all trying to come to mainland for jobs. True Taiwan is very ugly looks like 3rd tiger Chinese cities but he gdp per capita is 52k divided by ppp (25k nominal) compared to China at just under 20k gdp ppp per capita and 10k nomial, also the income disparity is a lot lower in taiwan (Taiwan gini:33 China:45, usa 40 for example) if u are out of Taipei you can actually have your own life in just minimum wage (minimum wage by ppp is higher in taiwan than us) also even the eastern provinces of China is still average around 30-35k yet I was shocked to hear this so much from Chinese, I’m just curious how was his so prent in China? I just didn’t want any confrontation since when anyone was saying that I knew they don’t know anything about economics to waste the effort
我第一次去中国出差,和我父亲一起去,待了一个月左右。我还在台湾待了一年作为交换生,所以当人们问我为什么我会说中文或者问我是不是之前来过中国,我就说在台湾做过一年交换生。让我惊讶的是我听到好多中国人说和大陆相比台湾多么穷,有多少台湾人想来大陆找工作。是的,台湾确实很丑,就像三线中国城市,但是人均的购买力平价GDP达到52K(名义GDP为25K),而中国的人均GDP为20K(名义GDP为10K),而且台湾的收入差距更低(台湾基尼指数33,中国45,美国40)。如果是在台北之外的地方,最低工资就可以活下去了(台湾的购买力平价最低工资比美国还高),而且即使是中国东部省份的人均GDP也才30-35K,然而让我感到震惊的是那么多中国人都说台湾穷,所以我想知道这种看法在中国有多普遍?
hiimsubclavian
Well ordinary people don't assess wealth by GDP per capita. They look at Shanghai with all those shiny skyscrapers and Kaohsiung with their 30-yo concrete flats so of course Shanghai is richer.
普通人不会根据人均GDP来评估财富啦。他们看到上海有这么多闪亮的摩天大楼,而高雄有的就只是30年之久的混泥土公寓,所以当然上海更富有。
samsonlike
Shanghai looks nicer than any city in Taiwan because Shanghai is new while all the other city in Taiwan, in Canada, and in the US are all old. Being Old means they have been rich earlier than the new. We must remember, in the 1960s, Taiwan was getting rich while all the cities in mainland China were suffering starvation.
上海比任何台湾城市都好看是因为上海是新的,而台湾,加拿大和美国城市都是旧的。旧的就意味着他们在以前曾经富裕过。我们必须记住,在1960年代的时候,台湾变富有时所有的中国大陆城市都处于饥饿之中。
renee-gaston
Shanghai is bigger than kaohsiung. It is not nearly as nice, nor as pleasant.
上海只是比高雄更大,但没有高雄那么漂亮和令人感到愉悦。
King_Bernie
Chinese don't think in terms of per capita, they think about the country as a whole. So they are right in saying that China as a whole is a lot richer than Taiwan. Also, a lot of Taiwanese do go to China looking for jobs. The Chinese job market is bigger and more diverse than in Taiwan.
Of course, all of that means nothing if your standard of living is shit. Who cares if you can make big money on the mainland when you have pollution, overcrowding, and no affordable housing.
中国人不看GDP,而是着眼于整个国家。所以他们说中国比台湾富有是没错的。此外,很多台湾人去中国找工作。中国就业市场比台湾更大更多样。但是如果生活标准很低的话,这一切都白搭。环境污染,过度拥挤,房子买不起,那大陆人赚再多钱又有什么用。
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