(上)如果孙子兵法真的是那么有用的战略的话,为什么中国输掉了二战? [美国媒体]

如果孙子兵法真的是那么有用的战略的话,为什么中国输掉了二战?如果中国使用了这些战略,为什么还被日本侵略?如果没有使用的话,为什么?

If the Art of War by Sun Tzu is a useful masterpiece in strategies, why would China lose in the Second World War? If China had applied the strategies, why would it be still terribly invaded by Japan? If China had not applied them, why?

如果孙子兵法真的是那么有用的战略的话,为什么中国输掉了二战?如果中国使用了这些战略,为什么还被日本侵略?如果没有使用的话,为什么?(上)



Johannes Sulistyo, Has been an enthusiast since 1990
Updated Dec 7 • Upvoted by Ravi Vaish, MA English Literature & History (1990)
Ooh how I have been waiting for question like this to appear. Thank you very much for this. This is a very legitimately good question.
I used to worship ancient Chinese wisdom too. Afterall, I am mostly a Chinese-descent person with 1/4 Javanese blood. 3 out of 4 elders in my family are ultra conservative Chinese traditionalists. One of my grandma has her feet bound, a practice that goes back to early Ming Dynasty. These old folks are hardline diehard Chinese advocates. One of them even still hated Japanese people to this day.

哦,我一直在等待这样的问题出现。非常感谢你。这实在是一个非常好的问题。
我以前也很崇拜古代中国智慧。毕竟,我是一个中国后裔,有四分之一的爪哇人血统。我家族里的老人四分之三都是极端保守的中国传统主义者。我的一个祖母缠脚,这种实践可以追溯到明朝初期。这些老人家是顽固强硬的中国拥护者。其中一人甚至到了今天还讨厌日本人。



I answered clearly “Sun Zi’s Art of War!”
“But you have so many Sun Zi’s book already, why do you want to buy another?”
“Those are comic books full of practical illustrations, I want the real deal! The serious wordy book that discuss about all 13 chapters of the original Art of War.”
“Fine choice! We are very proud of you, boy!”
So, in this Singapore-published, Hong Kong-written “Sun Tzu’s Art of War for Business” it quoted several remarks about the book from several famous figures that I never verified. It said that Kaiser Wilhelm II quipped that he shouldn’t have lost the throne if he read this book in the first place. Then Napoleon Bonaparte, as well as Bernard Viscount of Alamein Montgomery.

我大声回答说,《孙子兵法》 !
“但是你已经有很多孙子的书啦,为什么还要买?”
“这些都是漫画书,我想看真正的对原始《孙子兵法》13个篇章进行讨论的书籍 !”
“很好,我们为你感到骄傲!”
所以在这本新加坡出版、香港写成的《孙子的商业兵法》里,里面援引了几个着名人物对孙子兵法这本书的看法,这些说法我自己没有去查证过。里面说威廉二世曾经打趣到如果自己看过这本书就不会丢掉皇位了。还有拿破仑波拿巴以及阿拉曼蒙哥马利的伯纳德子爵。



Lost to a group of barbarian tribes such as the Xiongnu during Han Dynasty. They are forced to pay tributes to keep them off their Western borders.
Lost to the Northern Jin, about a thousand years later.
Lost to the Mongols, soon.
Lost to the Manchurians, another few hundred years later.
Lost to the European & US powers, another hundred years later.
Ceded vast amount of territories to Japan, before going down to civil war, the traditionalist lost to the “uncultured and rootless” communists.
Those are just the famous ones, China has suffered so much defeat and facing internal uprisings that they failed to contain several times throughout the history.

输给了一群野蛮部落,比如汉朝时期的匈奴。他们被迫纳贡,从而让匈奴远离自己的西部边界。
输给了北晋,大约是在1000年后。
输给了蒙古人,很快。
输给了满人,又一个几百年后。
输给了欧美强权,又一个百年之后。
将大片领土割让给日本,在内战之前,传统主义者输了。
这些仅仅是着名的一些案例,中国经历了太多的失败,而且历史上发生了多次内部起义,无法镇压。



But it is like the age old simple misattributions:
“is eating salad healthy?”
Yes, it is relatively healthier than eating meats.
“is eating apple healthy?”
Yes, for the same reason.
“Can I cure my sickness by eating salads and apples?”
It may help, but to be sure, please see a qualified physician or doctor.

但是这有点像由来已久的张冠李戴:
“吃沙拉有益健康吗?”有益,比吃肉更健康一点。“吃苹果有益健康吗?”是的,也比吃肉健康。“那我可以吃沙拉和苹果治病吗?”可能会有用,但是还是看医生比较有保证。

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