印度人在日本生活和定居是种什么感觉？（上） [美国媒体]

What is it like for an Indian to live and settle down in Japan?

印度人在日本生活和定居是种什么感觉？（上）



Manish, lives in Japan
Hello Everyone,
This is my first post on quora.I will reply to this post since this is related to an Indian and as also i feel that often Japan has been portrayed in either incorrect or partial way by people who have not really lived here as a full-time/permanent member of the society.

大家好，这是我第一次在quora上回复，因为这个问题与印度人有关，而且我也觉得日本经常被那些没有真正作为社会全职/永久生活在这里的人错误地描述，或部分抱以偏见。

I hope my response would be taken positively.
I will categorically describe my opinion :

我希望我的回答会得到积极的回应。
我将直截了当地阐述我的观点：



There are 3 types of foreigners coming to Japan.
a. Short term visitors(less than a year) : Tourists,business visitors,exchange students etc.
b. Medium term visitors(1 to 3-4 years) : Overseas subsidiary staff for training,Staff hired from overseas for skills,Trainee scheme workers(Chinese,Filipinos,Brazilian,S.E asians etc),Staff dispatched from parent company overseas for onsite projects etc
c.Long term/Permanent residents( more than 3 -4 years): These are the people who have already been here for quite a while, speak the language,know the culture by means of trying their best to assimilate,may have Japanese spouse,have experience of hopping jobs and are generally used to living here by making willing or unwilling adjustments.

来日本的外国人有三种。
a.短期游客(少于一年)：游客、商务访客、交换生等。
b.中期访客(1至3至4年)：海外附属培训人员，从海外聘用的工作人员 技能方面，实习计划工作人员(中国人、菲律宾人、巴西人、南亚人等)，从海外母公司派往海外从事现场项目等的工作人员等。
c长期/永久居民(3-4年以上)：这些人已经在这里呆了很长一段时间了，会说当地的语言，尽最大努力了解当地文化，可能有日本配偶，有跳槽的经验。 工作，已经习惯于主动或被动的调整自己来适应这里的生活。

If you fall in category a and b (except trainee scheme people) I can say that you will have the some of the most memorable and best time of your life.This is because your Japanese counterparts want you to go back to your country to support the business and also wish that you take a great image of Japan and its people back with you.You probably will see the most exotic hospitality if you fall in the above category.Regarding trainee scheme workers,god save them from suicides!!

如果你属于A类和B类(受训人员除外)，我可以说，你将拥有你一生中最难忘和最美好的时光，因为你的日本同行想要你要回到自己的国家以有利于生意往来,也希望你能把日本及其人民的美好形象带回你身边的人那里,如果你陷入困境,你可能会享受到超乎自己想象的最具异国情调的好客态度.
至于那些培训生……上帝保佑他们千万别自杀!


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Apart from the prejudices mentioned above(irrespective whether you are good or bad) some of foreigners often can be arrogant and inconsiderate Also,language and other cultural difference additionally can make life difficult.Some of them make least effort to learn language and culture.

除去上面提到的偏见(不管是好是坏)，一些外国人自己往往也会有傲慢和不得体的地方，再加上语言和其他文化差异，他们中的一些人很少努力学习当地语言和文化。

I suggest to read about terrie llyod article-he is owner of largest bilingual job site in Japan.

我建议阅读特瑞·利奥德的文章-他是日本最大的双语求职网站的所有者。

Why Surviving a Japanese Company is Tough - Terrie Lloyd
Foreign Talent Needs A Career - Can Japan Provide It?

为什么在日本公司生存是艰难的-特瑞·劳埃德
外国人才需要职业-日本能提供吗？



I got so used to hearing 'you gaijins bring bad things to our country' from friends, far-away relatives, and colleagues (I am not working now) that now I ignore and turn deaf ear to such comments about foreigners.....Dislike and mistrust of gaijins is deep rooted....
Of course, the younger generation is more open...So hopefully there is some hope for equal opportunities (job wise) for gaijin in years to come....But I do not see it in near future.
This is my honest opinion. I love Japan in spite of all this. Well my base is here now, so....
Best wishes...

我已经习惯了从朋友、远亲和同事(我现在没在工作)那里听到“你们给我们国家带来了不好的东西”，现在我对这些评论充耳不闻。对外国人的不喜欢和不信任的观念是根深蒂固的。当然，年轻一代可能更开放一点.因此我衷心希望在未来的几年里，可以为外国人提供一些更平等的机会……但我近期看不到这种可能
这都是我的真实想法。尽管如此，我还是深爱着日本，毕竟，我的家就在这里……
送上最美好的祝福

Email chat conversation with someone who has been here for 30 years.

通过电子邮件与一个已经在这里待了30年的人聊天。



Discrimination might exists everywhere,just as you would find social justice in India as normal because you lived and grew up there an average Japanese also feel normal in such condition.however,an alien coming from overseas might find it shock.

歧视可能无处不在，就像你在印度发现的社会正义一样稀松平常，因为若你在那样的环境下生活和成长的-在这种情况下，一个普通的日本人也会觉得这些都很正常。那些来自海外的外国人可能会对此感到震惊。

After traveling to several countries and having lived in few i personally feel that people are same everywhere its just that they show good and bad in different domains of life.

在去过几个国家，住过几个地方之后，我个人觉得其实每个地方的人都是一样的，只是他们在生活的不同领域表现得好坏而已。



Thanks for reading this long article.

谢谢你阅读这篇长篇文章。

P.S :
I know some people who have been here for short time and any Japanese person might think i am trying to attack Japan.I have no intention in doing so - I want to share some reality so in-case if someone who is coming here for his career advancement should have correct perspective.I love Japan as a country and admire the culture which led to it success. However,simply projecting Japans surface to a prospective immigrant is unfair to him.

我知道有一些人在这里只待了很短一段时间，任何日本人都可能认为我想攻击日本。我无意这样做-我只是想分享一些事实，以帮助一个为了事业发展而来的人对此有正确的眼光。我热爱日本这个国家，并钦佩导致日本成功的文化。然而，简单地把日本的表面传达给一个潜在的移民的行为对他是不公平的。