《卫报》：中国某医生因称中药为“毒药”而入狱，发道歉申明称自己“思虑不周” [美国媒体]

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A Chinese physician who spent almost 100 days in jail for criticising Chinese traditional medicine has issued an apology for “not thinking clearly”.

一位因批评中医药而入狱近100天的中国医生已经为“考虑不周”发表道歉声明。

Tan Qindong an anaesthesiologist in Guangzhou emerged as a public hero earlier this year for going up against a traditional Chinese medicine company over its marketing of a tonic to Chinese retirees. He was detained for three months before being released on bail in April in a case that sparked outcry among Chinese doctors and the general public.

今年年初，广东省麻醉医师谭秦东因对抗某中药公司向中国退休人员推广补药而成为公众英雄。他被拘留了三个月，随后在四月被保释，该案在中国医生和普通民众中引起了强烈抗议。

Hongmao Pharmaceutical the maker of the tonic said in a statement on Thursday it is dropping its lawsuit against Tan. The doctor published an apology earlier on Thursday for “not thinking clearly” about the words he used in a December essay describing Hongmao’s tonic as “poison”.

该补药的生产商鸿茅国药有限公司于周四在申明中表示，其正在撤销针对谭的诉讼。医生（谭秦东）曾在十二月的一篇文章中称鸿茅的补药为“毒药”，对此他于周四早上为其用词“考虑不周”而发表了道歉声明。

“After research our company decided to accept Tan’s apology. At the same time our company withdraw the case from Liangcheng’s public security bureau and withdraw the suit from People’s court in Liangcheng county” Hongmao said referring to the county in Inner Mongolia where the company is based.

“调查后，我们公司决定接受谭的道歉。同时我们公司会从凉城县公安局撤回该案，并从凉城县人民法院撤回诉讼，”鸿茅公司说道，其指的是公司总部所处的内蒙古的一个县。

In Tan’s December essay which circulated widely on the social media platform WeChat Tan cautioned that the curative abilities of Hongmao’s tonic’s were unclear at best and could actually harm those with diabetes or high blood pressure.

谭的十二月文章在社交媒体平台微信上广泛流传，在文章中，谭警告道鸿茅补药的治疗能力从最好的角度去看也是不清楚的，并且实际上可能会对有糖尿病和高血压的人群有害。

Hongmao’s “medicinal liquor” contains more than 60 kinds of herbs and animal products. It is advertised as a cure for everything from rheumatism to kidney dysfunction joint pain and Alzheimer’s disease.

鸿茅的“药酒”包含了六十多种草药和动物制品。其被宣传为能治疗一切疾病，从风湿病到肾功能不全、关节痛以及老年痴呆症。

China’s traditional Chinese medicine industry is growing with support from the central government even as it has come under scrutiny from researchers.

尽管受到研究者的严格审查，但在中央政府的支持下，中国的中医产业正在发展。

Tan’s case is also a rare win for public opinion and criticism of close lixs between local police and businesses. Tan was detained at home and taken more than 1700 miles to Inner Mongolia. He was charged for violating a little-used part of China’s criminal code that bars the fabrication or spread of claims that seriously damage a company’s reputation. But a Chinese court ordered his release.

谭的案子也是公众舆论的罕见胜出以及对当地警察和企业之间密切关系的批判。谭在家中被捕并被带到了1700公里远的内蒙古。他被控违反了中国刑法中很少使用的一部分法规，该部分禁止编造或传播严重损害公司名声的声明。但是中国法院下令将其释放。

After his release Tan told Caixin a Chinese financial news publication he did not regret writing the article or going to prison “It taught me how to interact with all sorts of people and also taught me how precious freedom is. I’ve learned to cherish the present ... I suppose this was just one of life’s trials.”

在被释放后，谭告诉中国经济新闻报《财新周刊》，他不后悔写那篇文章或因此入狱，“这教会了我如何与各种各样的人打交道，也教会了我自由是多么的珍贵。我学到了要珍惜现在……我想这只是我生命中的一次考验。”

Still Tan appears to have suffered from the experience. Last week his mother posted on the microblog Weibo that Tan was suffering from PTSD and had been hospitalised.

尽管如此，谭似乎因这段经历而遭受苦难。上周，他母亲在微博上发贴称谭患创伤后应激障碍（PTSD）并已住院治疗了。

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–]mr-wienerAustralia 79 指标 3 天前 
This guy was kidnapped from Guangzhou by the inner Mongolian PSB not once but twice because he said some shitty TCM tiger bone wine with inflated health claims was bs and toxic?!.. even by Chinese standards this is over the top.

这个人被内蒙古公安从广州劫走了不止一次，而是两次，这都因为他说某个夸大宣传健康功效的传统中药虎骨酒是有毒的、是胡说？！…即便按中国人的标准来说这也太过分了。

[–]_China_ThrowAway 122 指标 3 天前 
It’s not even like he was bashing TCM in general. He was just saying that a particular company’s claims about their infused baijiu curing Alzheimer’s was not true. Poor guy.

他并没有泛化的攻击传统中医。他只是说某个公司声称他们的药酒能治疗老年痴呆症这事不是真的。可怜的人。

[–]SlashSeroHong Kong 32 指标 2 天前* 
A lot of powerful people are getting mad rich off TCM and most hospitals in China are pretty much funded by scamming people with IV drips and TCM in addition with real medicine. It's amazing how in China even fairly intelligent people believe things like the five body and chi.

许多有权势的人物正从传统中药中疯狂敛财，中国的大多数医院基本上在给病人开治病药之外靠骗病人打点滴、开中药来获得资金。连一些相当聪明的中国人都相信五体、气之类的东西，这真的是太神奇了。

Most people argue that TCM works more slow cures by the root cause and supports good health. The only thing TCM will do is kill you slowly because most of the herbs are laced with heavy metals causing slow permanent and eventually fatal kidney and liver damage. A healthy lifestyle doesn't require all kinds of capsules and herbs - it only requires regular exercise and sufficient protein fat vitamins and minerals.

很多人认为传统中医起效慢但治根本，能让人保持健康。然而传统中药只会做一件事，那就是慢慢杀死你，因为大多数药草都含有重金属，造成慢性、永久性和最终致命的肾脏和肝脏损伤。健康的生活方式不需要药片和草药——只需要定期运动和充足的蛋白质、脂肪、维生素和矿物质。

Also nowadays a lot of TCM capsules are mixed with antibiotics ( yay for antibiotic resistance ) and pain relievers to make people believe they have genuine effect. It's quite shocking how many children end up in ER here because of opioid toxicity from getting huge doses of specific TCM concoctions.

而且现今的很多中药胶囊都混有抗生素（耶，抗药性哟）和止痛片，让人以为它们真有效。令人震惊的是，有很多儿童因为大量服用了某些传统中药混合物导致类阿片中毒而进了急诊室。

–]alexbcisChina 10 指标 3 天前 
Fucking 红帽药酒

CTM红帽药酒。

[–]kulio_forever 10 指标 2 天前 
someone has the right to "truth" and it is not this guy

有人有权告知世人“真相”，但不是这个人。

[–]moneylatem 1 指标 1 天前 
No he was not. Because if you bash TCM in general no one gives a shit and no one can be bothered to sue you. Westerners are not the only population dismissing TCM. Shit tons of Chinese hates TCM too and they're very vocal about it. It was exactly because he's name-calling one particular (powerful) brand that got him in trouble. TCM shouldn't be the main focus here. It's a defamation case that went out of control.

是啊，他没那样做。因为如果你只是泛泛地攻击传统中药，没人理你也没人会告你。贬低传统中医的不是只有西方人。大把中国人也一样不喜欢传统中医，且他们对此直言不讳。正是因为他骂了个特定（强势）的品牌，才让他惹上麻烦了。此处不应只针对传统中医。这只是个失控的诽谤案。

[–]rafikievergreen 43 指标 3 天前 
I went to a Chinese hospital one time under protest. I had a broken toe. The doctor advised me to stop eating spicy food. I stopped going to hospitals in China.

我曾极不情愿地去过一家中国医院。我脚趾骨折了。医生建议我不要吃辛辣食物。之后我再没去过中国的医院。

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[–]Jman-laowai 4 指标 2 天前 
The food/health neuroses are one of the things I find most annoying about Chinese culture. I mean you go out in a group to a nice restaurant and always going to be someone who's like "I can't eat anything with some common ingredient in it because of some pseudo medical reason" or like you go to a seafood restaurant and they can't eat seafood because they had a runny nose 5 days ago. I can't imagine going through life being so paranoid about everything I mean human's aren't that sensitive otherwise we surely wouldn't have been able to survive in the wild for millions of years if woman were dropping dead when they had some cold water during their period or eating lamb after you stubbed your toe caused you to get ill. It's so pervasive in society that even doctors will give you non-medical advice presented as medical advice as the guy above mentioned.

食物/健康神经官能症是中国文化中我最讨厌的事物之一。我是说，你们组团去一家不错的餐馆，总有些人会说“因为一些伪医学原因，我不能吃某些含有常用成分的食物。”或你说去一个海鲜餐馆吧，他们又说自己不能吃海鲜因为他们5天前感冒流鼻涕了。这种在对所有事情都这么偏执的情况下度过一生的生活我难以想象，我是说人类没那么敏感易受伤害，假如女生在生理期喝冷水就会死翘翘，踢到脚趾后吃羊肉会生病，那我们肯定不可能在野外生存了上百万年。这在社会中太普遍了，甚至连医生都会给你非医疗建议作为医疗建议，就像楼上提到的。

[–]PM_ME_UR_PUPPER_PLZ 14 指标 2 天前 
My wife is from China and my mother in law is a hardcore believer in traditional chinese medicine. Some of the stuff that she espouses boggles my mind. For example when my wife had a fever she wanted her to cut up onions and stuff it in her sock. Or if you have a burn you should ground up squid or octopus plus something else and apply it to the burn area. Like what the fuck dude...

我老婆是中国人，我的岳母是中医的忠实信徒。她所信奉的一些东西让我心烦意乱。比如，我老婆发烧了，岳母就让她切一些洋葱塞在袜子里面。或者假如你烧伤了，你应该把鱿鱼或章鱼再加上别的东西磨碎，然后把它涂在烧伤的地方。小伙伴们，这他妈都是什么呀...

[–]rafikievergreen 8 指标 2 天前 
So classic.
A co-worker of mine back in my PRC days had a severe infection of the glands. His neck was as wide as his head.
Doctor #1(small town): Nothing is wrong.
Doctor #2(Guangzhou): Lay off the KFC.
Doctor #3(Hong Kong): You're on death's door mate.

太经典了。我还在中国时的一个同事得了严重的腺体感染，他的脖子肿得跟头一样粗。
医生1号（小乡镇）：你这没事。
医生2号（广州）：别吃KFC。
医生3号（香港）：你生命危在旦夕啊，老兄。

[–]Jman-laowai 3 指标 2 天前 
Do you have kids? Just wait to your Mother in Law gets ideas about special treatments for your infant child's ailments and actively ignores medical advice from doctors because "they don't know what they are talking about".

你有孩子吗？你就等着你岳母给你传授治疗哺乳期孩子的疾病的特殊治疗妙方吧，她们完全忽视医生的医疗建议，因为“她们完全不懂医生在说什么”。

[–]PM_ME_UR_PUPPER_PLZ 1 指标 2 天前 
Not yet but this is one of the biggest problems that I'm concerned about. Wonder what's the best way for me to address this.

还不止这些呢，但这是我目前所担心的最大问题之一。想知道处理这个问题的最好解决办法是什么。

[–]Jman-laowai 3 指标 2 天前 
You have to put your foot down at some stage I guess. I was probably more amiable with the weirdness before my kid and just ignored some of it. When it involves a child and going against medical advice I think you need to take a stand. I told MIL that I valued her opinion but that it was up to me and my wife to decide whats best for the kid. I made sure I talked to my wife about this beforehand and also about the importance of following medical advice from doctors even when it contradicts what her parents are saying. I also don't let arguments continue eternally after a few back and forths I'll say that I've made my decision and that's final. It is painful but necessary unless you want to have no decision making power in the way your child is raised.

我想你得在某些情况下坚定自己的态度立场。在孩子面前我可能会对这些怪事表现比较温和，只是忽略了其中一些。但当它涉及到孩子并违背医疗建议的话，我认为你需要采取立场。我对我的岳母是这么说：我尊重你的观点，但决定什么对孩子是最好的人是我和我的妻子。我确保之前就跟我的妻子聊过这事，也说了当医生的医疗建议与她父母说的话相矛盾时听从医生建议的重要性，我也会退几步不让争论无休止地继续下去，我会说我已经做出决定了，事情就这么定了。这很痛苦但也是必须的，除非你不想要在孩子抚养方式上的决定权。

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[–]dasanaifair -1 指标 2 天前 
Just because you see some crazy shit your crazy Chinese in laws do in the name of TCM it doesn’t mean the shit they do is TCM. It's some shitty prescxtion she read or heard from somewhere or somebody and she chose to believe that over any legit prescxtion from real doctors.

有时候你看到一些中国亲戚以中医的名义做一些屁事，但这并不代表那就是中医。她也就是从一些地方或者某些人嘴里得到了一份狗屁不通的处方，然后她就信了这份破药方，然后对从真正医生那里得到的正规处方视而不见。

[–]soyeahiknow 2 指标 1 天前 
My mom wanted to go to China to have surgery on her thyoids. I insisted that she get a needle biopsy in one of the top ranked hospital in the world that's only an hour away from where she lives. After many arguments she finally went and the test came back that it was just benign cysts and no surgery is needed. If she had gone to China they would have just cut it out without doing any tests.

我妈想去中国做甲状腺手术。我坚持让她去正规医院做个穿刺检查，而且这家一流医院离她住的地方也就一个小时的路程。我跟她争来吵去最终她乖乖去做检查了，结果就是一个良性肿瘤，根本不用手术。如果她去中国了，那结果就是啥也不查，直接动刀子了。

[–]moneylatem 1 指标 1 天前 
This is a pretty common advice for pretty much all illnesses in China. A misunderstood cultural difference I think. The reason why they asked you to stop eating spicy food is essentially the same as stop eating overly sweetened or salted food. Or anything that's regarded as stimulant. Spicy food in this case might not make much difference for your broken toe but it does induce irritation and can potentially slow down the process of healing (if you consider how it affects your digestion and sleep). What your doctor gave was a harmless advice.

在中国，这是一个对差不多所有疾病都普遍适用的建议。我觉得这是一个在文化差异层面上的误解。实际上，他们让你少吃点辣的原因和别摄入太多糖和盐一样。所有刺激性食品都一样，别吃太多。你的脚趾骨折了，在这种情况下吃的太辣会加重刺激，很可能不利于伤口愈合（如果你考虑到它对你的消化和睡眠质量的影响）。你的医生给你的建议是无害的。

[–]rafikievergreen 1 指标 1 天前 
Well that UV drip line he wanted to put in my arm sure as fuck wouldn't have been harmless. If I had taken his "harmless advice" who knows how it could have ended.

好么，在我胳膊里头放个紫外线滴线，也许丫的现在没啥害处。但如果我接受了这个“无害的建议”，谁知道结果会成啥样。

[–]moneylatem 0 指标 1 天前 
Yep. I have no idea. Thanks for making our hospitals less crowded I guess. Take care bye!

行，我没啥意见。谢谢你让我们的医院变得不那么拥挤了。好运，再见哪您！

[–]lvreddit1077United States 61 指标 3 天前 
It's stories like these that make me doubt China's ability to be a world power. This is some backwoods behavior.

就是这种事情让我怀疑中国能否成为世界强国。这行为太低级落后了。

[–]APIglue 37 指标 3 天前 
“Eating endangered species cures cancer” is “vaccines cause autism” with Chinese characteristics.
It could be worse. The Indians are winning the healthcare Darwin awards with their “having sex with virgins cures HIV” bullshit.

“吃濒危物种能治疗癌症”就是中国版的“疫苗导致自闭症”。这也许会更糟糕。像印度人凭借着“和处女做爱能治愈艾滋病”的理论获得医疗达尔文奖，简直一派胡言。

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[–]Jman-laowai 33 指标 3 天前 
Yeah but you don't go to prison for insulting anti-vaccers. I think that it more to the point.

是的，但是你不会因为骂了反疫苗者两句就进监狱。我觉得这才是关键。

[–]LaoSh 3 指标 2 天前 
Not even just insulting just suggesting that vaccines don't cause autism.

甚至不仅仅是骂两句，仅仅是建议一下说疫苗不会引起自闭症。

[–]FileError214 20 指标 2 天前 
In America only dumbasses believe vaccines cause autism. In China you have to issue public apologies for doubting TCM.
It could be worse? It could be a lot fucking better too.

在美国，只有蠢货相信疫苗能引起自闭症。在中国你必须得为怀疑中医进行公开道歉。
可能会变得更糟？也可能会变得好很多。

[–]APIglue 3 指标 2 天前 
Yes but the idiocy runs deep especially with poor people and people with kids.
48% of Americans with children ages 0-4 think that there’s a high or medium chance of side effects with vaccines or are too stupid to even have an opinion.
10% of the population think the risks outweigh the benefits.
http://www.pewinternet.org/2017/02/02/vast-majority-of-americans-say-benefits-of-childhood-vaccines-outweigh-risks/（链接为：绝大多数美国人认为儿童疫苗利大于弊）

是的，但在穷人和有孩子的人的观念里，这种愚蠢观点更深入人心。在美国，48%有0到4岁儿童的家长认为疫苗有很大或较大的可能性会有副作用，或者太蠢了以至于一点主意都没有。10%的人认为弊大于利。

[–]FileError214 7 指标 2 天前 
Oh I’m not arguing that there aren’t a lot of dumbasses in America. I’d like to think it’s about the same amount as other places but who knows?
I would say something about at least the people in charge aren’t also dumbasses and are trying to do the right thing for our country but I’m not sure if that’s the case these days.
For sure people aren’t spending time in jail for calling out someone’s stupiditytho.

我不是说就美国蠢货不多。我的意思是任何地方的蠢货数量都差不多，但谁知道呢？我想说至少负责人不是蠢货，并且他们在努力做对国家有益的事，但是这些日子发生的事情我不确定。我能确定的是，人们不会因为指出别人的愚蠢就得在监狱里呆段时间就是了。

[–]Jman-laowai 25 指标 3 天前 
I think they meant “apology for thinking clearly”

我想他们的意思是“为知道得太清楚而道歉。”

[–]lacraquotteFrance 89 指标 3 天前 
After reading the whole story on Chinese media I've got to say that this whole story gave me renewed confidence that sometimes truth wins in China. The story as it's portrayed in Chinese media basically states that this doctor appalled that this TCM was being promoted openly to the elderly despite being full of toxic ingredients wrote an article about it blaming the company. The article went pretty much unnoticed save by the company that went to their local police in Inner Mongolia to file a complaint for libel. The police probably more than eager to help one of the biggest companies in their county (and guanxi etc.) went all the way to Guangdong were the doctor live and brought him back with them to put him in jail. Let me tell you he didn't enjoy his stay there... Anyway it backfired massively the media got hold of the story and now literally everyone in China knows about it and how dangerous the product is. The doctor got freed and I'm ready to bet there'll be serious consequences for the bad guys in the story. A bit of justice porn there and refreshing to see no censorship got in the way.

在中国媒体上了解了这个事件的整个过程之后，我想说这件事让我重拾信心：在中国大地上，真理有时会胜利。根据中国媒体描述，这名医生写文谴责该公司在不标明有毒成分的前提下，就在老年群体中大肆宣传这味中药。在指控医生诽谤罪，从内蒙古跨省抓捕他之前，这篇文章其实并没受到多大的关注。警方可能太急于帮这家中国制药公司的老大了，想尽一切办法找到医生的住处把人从广东抓过来关进监狱。我可以告诉你，医生并不喜欢那监狱里的一游........总之，经过媒体的大肆渲染，现在差不多所有中国人都知道这事了，也知道这个产品有多大危害了。医生现在已经被释放，我打赌这个事件中的坏人下场会很严重。来点儿小擦边球就能看到审查制度在前面等着你呢。

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[–]NewFuturist 59 指标 3 天前 
“this whole story gave me renewed confidence that sometimes truth wins in China”
The fact that this happened and he went to jail for so long and as he leaves he is given the instruction to continue to admit fault makes me more worried than ever. If we thought crony capitalism in the west was bad this is a new level. There has not been justice in the case.

“我想说这件事让我重拾信心：在中国大地上，真理有时会胜利。”
事实上，他在监狱里被关了这么久，就算出狱了也被勒令道歉，这反而让我更加担心中国现状了。如果我们认为西方资本主义是腐朽的，那这件事真就刷新我们的观念了。这个案件还没有得到真正的公正判决。

[–]MrRFHGreat Britain 36 指标 3 天前 
Sorry to spoil the mood but he's since been re-arrested interrogated so intensely he was hospitalized with PTSD (according to Caixin) forced to issue an apology on his wife's Weibo account while the liquor company has kindly dropped its libel case. And the story is now being censored on social media

非常抱歉我来毁气氛了。谭医生现在再度被捕，并且因审讯过度导致患创伤后应激障碍而住院（根据《财新》报道），用其妻微博号被迫发了篇道歉声明，而这家制药公司则貌似和善地撤诉了。这个事件则在社交媒体上持续发酵。

[–]lacraquotteFrance 9 指标 3 天前 
Yeah not true at all. The guy has been released. As you can read in this SCMP article dated from Wednesday "the Inner Mongolian prosecutors’ office said there was insufficient evidence to prosecute Tan and that he should be released" and "the Ministry of Public Security said it had ordered Inner Mongolian police to review their handling of the incident" (CCP talk for "you guys fucked up"). Also "China’s Food and Drug Administration [has] ordered its regional branch in Inner Mongolia to review all regulation violations made by Hongmao over the past five years" (CCP talk for "you guys are in for a hard time").

你说错了，这人已经被释放了。你可以读《南华早报》周三的这篇报道“内蒙古检察院表示证据不充分，将谭医生给予释放”，还有“公安部表示已命令内蒙警方对事件处理情况进行检讨”（大大们表示“你完了”）。还有“中国食品和药物监督管理局已命令内蒙古分局对鸿茅过去五年内所有的违规行为进行审查”（大大们的意思是“你们的日子不好过了”）
Also it's not being censored here is an article about it from 3 days ago on China Daily an official party-mouthpiece newspaper:
它还未被审查，以下是官方报纸《中国日报》在3天前发表的相关文章：（链接为——“毒酒”？中国医生协会寻求方法为谭医生辩护）
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201804/17/WS5ad551c5a3105cdcf6518b5f.html

[–]FileError214 7 指标 2 天前 
It took them 100 days to figure out there wasn’t enough evidence?

他们花了100天才弄清楚证据不足？

[–]MrRFHGreat Britain 9 指标 3 天前 
Here's the Caixin piece（链接为《财新网》的相关报道：谭秦东再被内蒙古警方讯问 突发精神疾病）: http://china.caixin.com/2018-05-15/101250232.html Here's a popular tweet that got dexed from Weibo（这是微博上已被删掉的人气高的推文链接：） https://weibo.com/maguashihang?profile_ftype=1&is_all=1#_rnd1526632524677

[–]lacraquotteFrance 2 指标 3 天前 
So where does it say he got arrested again? The Caixin piece doesn't say this at all. It says he was questioned but was back home the same night.

到底从哪儿听的他再度被捕了？财新网上根本没说。只是说谭医生被问了几个问题，并且当天晚上就回家了。

[–]MrRFHGreat Britain 16 指标 3 天前 
Careless wording on my part: He was grilled for 12 hours (not sure if that involved kidnapping him again from Guangzhou); it broke him because he was then admitted to hospital suffering a panic attack or what you will. Anyway two days after the article Tan apologized for his original blog calling the liquor toxic (all of which was factually true). So it seems he caused the cops and company so much embarrassment that they decided to put the major frighteners on him even though they had already been censured by the PSB and FDA. A bizarre turn of events all round

我发表一下个人浅见：谭医生经过了12个小时的煎熬（并不清楚是否与他被跨省抓捕有关）；这一举崩溃了他的心理防线，随后他因恐慌发作入院。总之，两天后他为之前的“毒酒说”道歉（其实他说的是事实）。尽管已经被公安局及食品和药物管理局审查，当地警方和制药公司依然对谭医生进行恐吓，因为他们觉得自己被谭医生弄得太没面子了。整件事来了个大反转。

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[–]lacraquotteFrance 3 指标 3 天前
Fair enough poor guy. To answer your question Caixin says the interrogation happened at the Guangzhou police station but was done by the Inner Mongolia police. So at least he wasn't dragged to Mongolia again. I guess next time he'll just keep silent sadly...

够公平了，可怜虫。回答你的问题：财新网上说，审讯地点在广州公安局，但由内蒙古公安局执行，所以说至少他没有再度被押送到内蒙古。我想也许下次他会选择沉默，悲哀……

[–]Parabellum27 1 指标 2 天前
“I guess next time he'll just keep silent sadly...”
So as everyone else.

“也许下次他会选择保持缄默，悲哀……”
就如其他人一样。

[–]oolongvanilla 5 指标 3 天前
I'm glad that in the end the public knows what happened and is even more aware of this dangerous medicine than if the company hadn't pursued the matter in the first place.
...But still what the cao China?

制药公司第一时间就有动作，这种激烈反应反而让公众更加明白事件的始末，意识到药品的毒性，这个结果令我很欣慰。但是还是想问问中国，这到底是怎么回事？

[–]TheRarebitFiend 14 指标 3 天前
He definitely wasn’t thinking clearly. He thought he’d be able to tell the truth and not be put in jail for it.

他当时绝对是脑子没想清楚。他以为自己能说真话且不会因这而锒铛入狱。

[–]AWHS10 59 指标 3 天前*
What do you mean hot water won’t cure my cancer?!?!? OUTRAGEOUS!!!

什么，你说热水不会治愈我的癌症！？！？一派胡言！！

[–]IPlayGoALot 26 指标 3 天前
AND THEN THIS MOTHER FUCKER TELLS ME PUTTING SUCTION CUPS ON MY BACK DOES NOTHING!!

然后这个狗日的告诉我拔火罐没用！！

[–]ancelotti 12 指标 3 天前
Some of my favourite quotes from an earlier story:
Health Times reporter found that after investigation Hong Mao Liquor is not alcohol nor is it a health care product
There is a lot of controversy about the efficacy of Hongmao Liquor. Consumers have experienced discomfort or complaints after drinking.

早先时候的报道有几段话我觉得挺好：
《健康时报》报道，据调查，鸿茅药酒既不是酒，也不是保健品。
对于鸿茅药酒是否真有功效存在很多争议，有消费者投诉，在喝完药酒之后会有不适反应。

Hmm if only we had a word for substances that cause harm to those who drink it...
Do all Chinese believe in TCM? Well I know one guy who who didn't even though he "invented" it: http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2013/10/traditional_chinese_medicine_origins_mao_invented_it_but_didn_t_believe.html（链接：“矛”大大发明了中医）

嗯，要是我们能找到一个能准确形容那些成分有害的词……所有中国人都信中医吗？好么，我知道一个尽管“发明”了中医但却不信中医的人。

[–]Nefelia 6 指标 2 天前
The TCM that focuses on plant and herbal remedies seems to have a far better track record than the nonsensical branch that focuses on animal parts (sexted no doubt via some idiotic voodoo-esque idiocy).

相比于臭名昭着的拿动物入药（毫无疑问，都是一些愚蠢的巫术），使用草本和植物的中医会让人更能接受。

You see a similar trend in aromatherapy in the West. Some marketers focus on the limited scientific knowledge we have about the properties of the various ingredients and our knowledge of how scents can effect moods - and this stress and blood pressure. Others go down the path of spirituality and ascribe quasi-religious attributes to various oils.
Unfortunately for both China and the West there is a thriving market for such stupidity.

在西方，有类似的芳香疗法。我们对于各种各样的药物成分并不了解，也不知道气味对于情绪、压力、血压的影响情况，而商家就利用了这一点。甚至有些商家为各种精油打上“灵魂疗法”的标签，都快上升到宗教属性了。不幸的是，无论是在中国还是西方国家，总有人为这种愚昧买账，生意还挺红火。