中国想用强制性的射频识别芯片追踪人们的汽车 [美国媒体]

China wants to track citizens’ cars with mandatory RFID chips

中国想用强制性的射频识别芯片追踪人们的汽车



[–]krystar78 
Prediction, China will be first country to implement mandatory surgical RFID chip/pills. Your identity, social credit, financials, internet access will all be authenticated via your personal RFID tag
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中国将成为首个应用强制性外科射频识别芯片/药品的国家。你的身份，社会信用，财务，网络连接都将通过你的私人射频识别标签来验证。

[–]dagbiker 
In America we use cameras mounted on police cars.

在美国，我们使用的是警车上的摄像头。
 
[–]psu12616 
We already do this in the US. Often called fast pass or EZ pass. People in the US act all high and mighty like we are so free and have such privacy. It’s a huge fallacy. What we have is a value of wanting privacy and a false belief that we have it. But we don’t have it. Our implementation may be a little different but we are tracked in so many ways. More info... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-ZPass

我们美国早就应用这个了。我们称之为快速通过或者EZ pass。我们美国人以为自己很自由，拥有隐私。其实我们拥有的只是想要拥有隐私的价值观以及我们以为自己已经拥有之的错误观念。我们根本就没有隐私。我们的实施或许有点不同，但是我们在很多方面也受到了国家的监督。更多信息请看https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-ZPass
 
[–]kittifer91
Its China. Their society is so heavily regulated that this isn't even news. Just another day in the life

这就是中国。他们的社会被严重监管，所以这都算不上新闻。日常而已。
 
[–]I_am_The_Teapot 
Used ethically, I think it could be a good thing. It's a passive RFID, rather than an active homing device. Meaning it needs to be actively scanned from an outside machine. It is similar to a VIN or a license plate with easier and more accurate scanability. As it is, many places already have licence plate readers. Or the prolific EZ passes - which are also RFID - or other similar things (talking hundred million or more vehicles already voluntarily use them). Or cell phones. Which can be somewhat tracked in a similar manner (only far easier because cell phones are more akin to actual homing devices). But it will be only on cars. And passive. Presumably registered to THAT car like a VIN.
It can be helpful to identify/track stolen cars, forged cars, hit and runs, things like that. An active scanning system infrastructure police can access would be expensive to implement and limited. Even EZ pass scanners have a rather limited range. It requires rather direct exposure and static placement across all vehicles. (Like how EZ pass needs to be visible through your windshield)
But as I said good if used ethically, lawfully. It would be up to China to enforce actions against abuses. Like how governments have limits on how they can track citizens in some of the other ways I mentioned.
But either way, it is not really some magic Big Brother homing device where people can pinpointed all the time. Not to mention scanning like that is often easily  (sometimes with actual aluminum foil). RFID requires scanning stations or hand scanners. It isn't like a GPS. You want to be scared of this? Start with being more scared of having your cell phone.

如果被正当的使用，我觉得这可以是一件好事。这是一个被动的射频识别，而不是一个主动的导航装备。意味着它需要被某个外部的机器进行积极的扫描。类似于车辆识别码，或者拥有更容易更精确扫描性的牌照。很多地方都已经有牌照读取仪了。或者众多的EZ pass——也是射频识别技术，或者其他类似的东西。或者手机，手机也可以通过类似的方式被追踪（手机只会更容易追踪，因为手机更类似于实际的导航设备）。但只能在车上。被动的。像车辆识别码一样和汽车绑定。
这有助于确认和追踪被窃取汽车，伪造的汽车，肇事逃逸，等等。如果警察使用一种积极的扫描系统，那实施起来会非常昂贵，也有限制性。即使是EZ pass的扫描仪都有相当限制性的范围。它要求相当的暴露和静态放置。
但是正如我说，如果以得当合法的方式使用，那就是有益处的。那要看中国是否会采取行动打击滥用了。
无论如何，这不是某种可以让人们随时找到精确位置的神奇导航装置。射频识别需要扫描站或者手持扫描器。它不像GPS。你对它感到害怕？还是先对你的手机感到害怕吧。

[–]PixPls 
I understand why its bad, but I think it could be put to good use as well. Sadly, we know government doesn't use tracking info for good reasons.
Some of the good it could do, would be understanding traffic conditions better, info for autonomous driving, stolen car recovery, establishing maps/routes.

我知道这个为什么不是好事，但是我同时也认为这个东西可以用来做好事。悲剧的是，我们知道政府不会出于良好的目的来使用追踪信息。
 
[–]RedditIsMyCity 
Can someone explain how this is what wrong? I'm confused

有没有人给我解释一下这个真的那么不好吗？我困惑了。
 
[–]Mzavack 
Nothing is wrong with it per se. On reddit, it's akin to genocide though because of the belief that "china not free! they put chip in people like I saw in movie! that bad! america free! we no chip!"
In truth, the brief description in this article makes it seem like they're going to use the chips to monitor traffic patterns with the intent to cut down on inefficiencies related to transportation infrastructure in an effort to combat pollution.
In the U.S., RFID chips are already in many vehicles. They're used for collecting tolls (EZ pass.)

没什么不好。但是在本站，它就好比种族屠杀，因为本站的网友有这样一种信念“中国是不自由的！他们将芯片植入人体，像我在电影里看到的那样！好坏！而美国是自由的！我们不用芯片干这种事！”。事实是，这篇文章中的简短介绍貌似说明了中国打算用这些芯片监管交通模式以提高交通基建的效率从而减少污染。
在美国，射频识别芯片已经安装在很多车辆上，其用途是收取通行费（也就是EZ pass）
 
[–]StreetSharksRulz 
The government literally wants to track all the citizens. I'm not sure what you're confused about.

政府就是想要追踪其所有公民。我不知道你有什么好疑惑的。
 
[–]Mzavack 
that's literally not what this is though. It would be one of the worst ways to do it if that was the intent. The main objective is to fight pollution from vehicles by monitoring traffic patterns.

如果真是用来追踪人的，那这个方法也太烂了。它的主要用途是通过监视交通模式从而减少车辆所产生的污染。
 
[–]RedditIsMyCity  
What If they're trying to find a murderer? What if a car does a hit and run and they need to find it to arrest them. China is known for hit and runs. What if someone is seen being kidnapped they can track the car and find them.

如果他们想寻找谋杀犯呢？如果发生肇事逃逸，他们得找到并逮捕之。中国以肇事逃逸闻名。如果某人被绑架，他们就可以通过追踪车辆找到嫌疑人。
 
[–]thehyrulehero 
Do you want to be safe? The best solution is to have cameras everywhere (inside and outside) . Because that's the best way to find a criminal who has fleed the scene. We choose not to do that because we place some value on our privacy over safety.

你想要安全吗？那最好是到处安装摄像头（内部和外部）。因为那是最好的办法来寻找逃离现场的罪犯。但是我们没有这样做，因为比起安全，我们更看重隐私。