1901,一个吃米饭的中国人 [美国媒体]

reddit网友:等等。在胶片发明以前,人们拍照时使用的是银板照相法。这种办法要求一定的曝光时间,从几秒钟到几分钟不等,所以期间被照相的人必须一直保持不动。我们都知道要在长时间里保持微笑是很难的,而且比较尴尬,所以人们在拍照时就选择更加严肃或者放松的表情,后来这就成为了早期摄像的一个“传统”了。

A man eating rice in China, 1901

1901,一个吃米饭的中国人



[–]dragon_bone 417   1
People used to be happy?

以前的人们都是那么开心的?

[–]Penta-Dunk[S] 253   49 
Hahah, funny story actually. Back then, taking a photo was considered to be important, like a portrait of yourself. Your descendants would see that exact picture of yourself so you had to look serious and respectable, which is why people rarely smiled. However that belief only existed in certain parts of the world, and it hadn’t reached China yet, where not everyone had cameras. So when the British photographers came into this Chinese town and took pictures of locals they told them to “strike a pose”, and they chose to use any random pose instead of the usual serious face.

哈哈,确实是个有趣的故事。那时候,拍照是一件很重要的事情,好比是自己的自画像。你的后代是会看到你的照片的,所以你必须看起来严肃可敬,所以那时的人们很少微笑。然而,这种观念只存在于世界的某些地方,还没传到中国,当时的中国并非每个人都拥有相机。所以当英国摄影师们来到这个中国小镇给当地人拍照时,要求他们摆个姿势,所以他们就任意的摆出姿势,而不是平常的严肃脸。

[–]blazeeeit 114   34 
Hold up op! So before film was invented, people were using daguerreotypy (more commonly known as “silver plate”) process to create pictures. Such process requires the exposure time from a few seconds up to several minutes, which requires the subject to be standing still during the exposure process. Smiling as we all know is a hard facial expression to maintain for such long period of time in addition the awkwardness that we experience, therefore people chose a more serious or relaxed expression when taking photos, and later this becomes a “tradition” in the early age of photography.

等等。在胶片发明以前,人们拍照时使用的是银板照相法。这种办法要求一定的曝光时间,从几秒钟到几分钟不等,所以期间被照相的人必须一直保持不动。我们都知道要在长时间里保持微笑是很难的,而且比较尴尬,所以人们在拍照时就选择更加严肃或者放松的表情,后来这就成为了早期摄像的一个“传统”了。

[–]Penta-Dunk[S] 45   28 
Hey! You got me. My version comes from the original source’s description, so it’s much different than yours hah. The only prize you win for being right is explaining the same thing to the rest of the commenters asking the same question ;)

哇,楼上的,你说得有道理。我之前的那个说法来自原文里的描述,和你的观点好不一样。

[–]tragiktimes 18   16 
When a person can admit they're misinformed with such poise, it gives me hope for the world.

楼主这种承认自己被误导的态度,让我觉得世界充满了希望。

 [–]ronin4740 972   4
Not believing the 1901... Time traveller or photo shop.

不相信这是拍摄于1901年。。时光旅行或者PS。

[–]Benedict_Indestructo 319   4
I agree, the photo is way too clear.

赞同,这照片也太清晰了吧。

[–]PronunciationIsKey 7   26 
Is it an apothecary table?

那是药剂师桌?

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[–]digdug04 138   2
You’d be surprised how high quality old cameras were. As long they had a skilled operator you could get excellent quality photos. In this case this guy had to sit there and smile very still for a while

你会惊讶于旧时的相机质量是多么的好。只要操作者技术高超就可以拍出质量非常好的照片。就这张照片而言,这家伙得一直坐在那里并保持微笑一段时间。

[–]Penta-Dunk[S] 61   34 
By the 1900’s photography had advanced a lot so you’re right, except he only had to hold still for maybe a few seconds. It blows me away how many people in this thread don’t realize that photography was way more advanced in the 1900s compared to the 1800s. Assuming you had a decent camera pictures could be really good quality and you wouldn’t have to hold still for as long as you did in the 1800s.

到了20世纪的时候照相技术已经提高了很多,所以楼上你说对了,但是他只需要静止不动几秒钟而已。竟然有那么多人不知道当时的摄影技术比19世纪时期先进多了。如果相机不错,那么拍摄出来的照片也会非常好,而且保持静止不动的时间也不用19世纪的时候那么长。

[–]Automatic_nun_gun 8   30 
Yup film cameras have changed in size and form factor but the picture quality has changed a lot less than people would think. Digital is where a lot of the big strides have been made.

是的,胶片相机在尺寸和规格上确实发生了很大改变,但是相片质量的改变并没有人们想象的那么大。数码相机才是真正的大变革。

[–]digdug04 2   12 
True but i would still consider a few seconds a long time in terms of photography. Especially when holding a pose like that any slight movement would be a loss in sharpness.

确实,但是我觉得对于摄影来说,几秒钟的时间还是太长了。特别是保持着那样的姿势,轻微的挪动都会导致清晰度的下降。

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[–]Bamith 61   47 
People didn't smile before the 1960s, i'm positive.

我可以肯定的是1960年代之前的人们拍照时是不会笑的。

[–]jlialp 23   30 
People didn't have teeth before the 1960s.

1960年代之前的人们没有牙齿。

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[–]GjsRs 6   33 
Kind of correct, pictures took a while back in the day and no one smiled after waiting for ages for the picture to develop

有点对,当时的照片拍摄需要花费一定时间,一般人拍照时不会笑。

[–]VegasTransplant 7   29 
You're talking 1800's here. Photography cameras we're pretty quick by 1901

你说的是19世纪吧。到了1901年时相机的拍摄速度已经相当快了。

[–]yeerk_slayer 3   26 
High quality cameras have always existed, it's just that they need special lens that are expensive. It always came down to how much the manufacturer was willing to spend on production overall. A carefully engineered high budget camera from 1880 is still gonna be better than a cheaply made camera coming from some Chinese knockoff tech company.

高质量的相机一直都是存在的,只不过它们需要特别的、昂贵的透镜。归根结底还是看厂家愿意在生产上支出多少。一个生产于1880年的精心制作的高质量相机依然会比某些伪冒的中国厂家所生产的廉价相机好。

[–]pantshirtshoes 5   1
also, his hands and fingernails aren't grubby enough.

还有,他的手和指甲也不够脏。

[–]Penta-Dunk[S] 17   42 
Someone else mentioned this in another comment, but judging by his clothes and the nice table in front of him he’s probably wealthy enough to afford good hygiene

可是通过他的衣服和他前面漂亮的桌子来判断,他应该足够富有到拥有良好的卫生条件。

[–]pantshirtshoes 4   37 
I was half joking... It's just that the only time you see anyone of status in older pictures, they are looking unnecessarily dignified and boring. You would assume that a goofy guy like that isn't of noble origin... just a bunch of contradictions (and assumptions) in the photo, I guess :)

我开玩笑的啦。。。只不过在旧照片中,一般地位高的人物看起来都有一种不必要的庄严和无聊。所以像这种看起来笑嘻嘻的人一点都不像是贵族。。。所以这张照片透露出了很多矛盾的地方。

[–]doctopi 2   29 
That's just because they had to sit there as still as possible for a long period of time right? It's easier to sit still with a neutral expression rather than holding a smile. Also saw somewhere that it was less common to expose your teeth back then because of poor dental hygiene but I've no idea how true that is.

那是因为他们得坐在那里一动不动的保持一段时间。所以比起保持微笑,中性的表情更容易一点。还有我听说当时的人们不太喜欢暴露自己的牙齿,因为当时的牙齿卫生很差,不知道是不是真的。

[–]Penta-Dunk[S] 3   23 
People in poorer, developing countries like China back then didn’t have as much access to refined sugar as developed, richer countries, so their dental hygiene wasn’t as bad.

当时更加贫穷的发展中国家比如中国不像更加发达富有的国家那样可以获得精制的糖,所以他们的牙齿卫生其实更好一点。

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