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How will we know if a multinational conflict is in fact as big a deal as WWI or II?
我们要如何知晓一场已达到一战二战规模的国际冲突?
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Paul Dalton
Written Nov 12
Allies: Israel USA India UK France Germany Netherlands Finland Italy Spain Denmark Sweden Norway Nepal South Korea Japan Australia Ukraine Poland Lithuania Latvia Estonia Austria Hungary Slovakia Belarus Greece Czech Republic Switzerland South Africa
同盟国:美国、英国、法国、德国、荷兰印度以色列芬兰意大利西班牙瑞典丹麦挪威尼泊尔韩国日本澳大利亚乌克兰波兰立陶宛拉脱维亚爱沙尼亚奥地利匈牙利斯洛伐克白俄罗斯希腊捷克共和国瑞士南非
Axis: Pakistan China Russia North Korea Turkey Egypt Nigeria
轴心国:巴基斯坦中国、俄罗斯、朝鲜、埃及、尼日利亚、土耳其
Abstainers: Iceland Canada New Zealand Philippines Indonesia Slovenia most of Latin America
中立国:冰岛加拿大新西兰菲律宾印度尼西亚斯洛文尼亚:大多数拉丁美洲国
Not sure: Saudi Arabia (has fallen out with US and Russia in recent years) Iran (hates Israel and Pakistan)Mongolia Malaysia
不确定:沙特阿拉伯(最近几年与美俄闹翻)伊朗(讨厌巴基斯坦和以色列)马来西亚蒙古
I may be way off with some of these especially the abstainers. I think the Allies would win due to superior manpower and more up to date weaponry however with the size of China’s armed forces (Turkey and Russia’s are pretty sizable too) it would be a hell of a fight.
我可能漏掉一些中立国。我认为盟军会赢,原因是优越的人力资源和更先进的武器,但是因为中国军队的规模(土耳其和俄罗斯的军队也相当可怕)这将是一场地狱般的战斗。
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Noah Spurrier
Noah Spurrier15 votes Show
Why would Canada abstain? This seems unlikely.
为什么加拿大弃权?这似乎不大可能。
Also why would the US and China want to go to war? Not going to happen. Without China 90% of the stuff we buy would disappear. Walmart would be completely empty. China and the US have entered into a symbiotic relationship which any attempt at separation would result in mutually assured economic destruction — a fate worse than nuclear holocaust as far the the ideology of both these nations supports.
同样的美国和中国为什么会想要战争?(战争)不会爆发的。没有中国,我们消费品中的90%都会消失。沃尔玛将会变得空空如也。中国和美国已经进入一种共生关系任何尝试分离的举动都会导致经济上的两败俱伤,这结果(经济摧毁)比核战屠杀还糟糕,这种观点两个都支持。
Alt Numa12 votes Show
Since when do those countries call themselves the Axis? Cant they call themselves the Allies too the name isn’t patented. Besides it looks like half or more of the countries listed on both sides of your fantasy alliances are pretty comfortable letting the others fight while they remain neutral unless they’re directly harmed.
那些国家是从什么时候开始称自己为轴心国的?他们不能也称自己为盟友吗?(盟友)这个名字并没有被申请专利。此外在你这份幻想中的双方盟友名单上的一半或以上的国家,他们都乐意看别人打仗而自己保持中立,除非他们受到直接攻击。
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Akkshaj Singh7 votes Show
In my opinion it's highly unlikely that India would fight Russia against a war. Although Indian is officially non-aligned Russia and India are extremely close.
It's quite likely India would stay neutral unless attacked by another country. (likely either China or Pakistan)
Akkshaj Singh7 votes Show
在我看来,印度和俄罗斯不太可能发生战争。因为这两个国家尽管没有结盟,但是关系还是很亲密的。
印度极有可能保持中立,除非它被别的国家攻击。(比如中国或者巴基斯坦)
George Precous8 votes Show
What would make you think Nigeria would fight against your list of allies? Nigeria has a great relationship with most of the countries on your allies list presently weapons used in the fight against insurgence are purchased from the US lots of Nigeria oil were bought by the US until they decided to use more of theirs. Nigeria has signed several deals in recent times with Germany and the relationship with the UK is in a very long time unwavery. I don't know how you drew your conclusions though but in my books its wrong.
到底是什么让你觉得尼日利亚会攻击你们的盟友呢?尼日利亚和你们的大部分盟友都有大量的交往,它在平息国内叛乱时所使用的武器购买自美国,大量的尼日利亚石油被卖给了美国直到美国决定加大国内石油的使用量。
尼日利亚最近和德国签署了几笔交易,而且在相当长一段时间里和英国的渊源很深。我不明白你是如何得到这个结论的,但是我个人观点这个结论是错的。
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Henry Leung2 votes Show
The way you use Axis implies that they are the same as the one in the Second World War. This reveals your view of the mentioned countries. I don’t see china joining either sides.
你使用轴心国的方式暗示着他们会与二战时一样。这也揭示了你对上述国家的观点。我不认为中国会加入任何一方。
John St Dominic3 votes Show
I can’t see Turkey siding with Russia and I think India would abstain (they are officially non-aligned). I think Mongolia would be neutral as although they have no love for Russia or China they are sandwiched between those two countries and thus cannot afford to provoke them.
我不认为土耳其会支持俄罗斯,我还认为印度会放弃(他们都对外宣称不结盟)。我认为蒙古会中立,尽管他并不喜欢中俄,但他像个三明治夹在中俄之间,不能轻易惹恼他们。
Joshua Iyalagha
I don’t get your axis grouping: “Turkey Egypt & Nigeria” are closer to the US than to “ China Russia & North Korea”
我不明白你的轴心分组:“土耳其、埃及和尼日利亚“更亲美,而不是“中俄朝”。
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Jo Berah
Numbers don't really matter anymore. It's more about craft and technology (and also finance). That's how a tiny country like Israel has managed to stave off attacks from multiple nations.
数字真的不重要。更重要的是工艺,科技(还有金融)。这就是为什么以色列能抵挡住多个国家的进攻。
Russia have just developed a robotic gun that can kill someone from 6km away. That's pretty scary technology and pretty much counteracts any ground infantry threat.
俄罗斯刚发明了一种能从6km外击杀人的自动枪。那真是非常恐怖的科技,它能在相当大的程度上抵消任何地面部队的威胁。
Anyway the first act of war between any of these countries will be economical. Which is why we're in danger if Trump decides to go through with his ludicrous plan to cut economic ties with China. It's almost a declaration of war.
不管怎么样,这些国家之间的战争看起来是划算的。这就是为什么川普通过他愚蠢地与中国切断经济联系的计划让我们如此危险,它几乎等于宣战。
William Mai4 votes Show
turkey is in NATO which is an alliance against russia
土耳其是反俄的北约集团成员。
Khalid Abuhaimed6 votes Show
Laughing at Egypt siding with Turkey you surely don't have a clue about today’s politics.
埃及和土耳其站在一起让我笑死了,你肯定没搞清楚今天的政治,
Nonami Animashaun1 vote by Olorunfemi Ajibulu
I am very sure you have Nigeria placed all wrong. As allies may would probably be more correct.
我非常肯定你把尼日利亚都放错了。作为盟友可能会更正确。
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Juan Morales1 vote by Chandler Yang
I’m sorry but this list is made up nonsense with not a lot of deep thought. Turkey would not be “Axis” (a stupid name for an Alliance trying to not look like the villains by the way) Turkey is in NATO they would be part of the Allies. Also no way Canada and Iceland would abstain they are in NATO as well they would join with the Allies. Also New Zealand would most likely not abstain but join the Allies as well.
Did you just randomly pick countries without any prior knowledge to their current alliances and relations and put them wherever you want?
抱歉,不过这个名单完全就没道理,没什么深刻的思想。土耳其不会是“轴心国”(把这个当作自己的联盟名字,以为这样自己就不是恶棍了),土耳其是北约成员,他们会成为同盟国。同样加拿大和冰岛也不会弃权,他们也是北约国家,他们会加入同盟国。另外新西兰也不会弃权,而会加入同盟国。
你是不是随便挑了些国家然后完全不知道它们当前的结盟和关系就按自己想法给它们安排位置了?
John Yearwood
WWIII will be fought digitally. It's obxt will be the same as every other war: to secure resources. Today all credit in all economies is digitized. He who controls the flow of credit controls the world.
三战会是数字化战争。它的目标跟其他战争一样:保护资源。现在所有的经济体的信用都数字化了。谁控制信用的流通谁就控制世界。
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Sikkandar Syed Ibrahim1 vote by John St Dominic
India is not in alliance with anyone and we dont want to allied with someone.
印度和谁都不是盟友我们也不需要和任何人结盟。
Alexander Martirosian
Switzerland would be neutral as would Sweden…
瑞士将保持中立,瑞典也一样
Tim Adewusi1 vote by Richard McKeen
Why on earth do you think Nigeria belongs on the axis list? You obviously don't have a clue about the country. Since Quora is an internet based app I suggest you use the internet more often by researching and getting facts before posting.
为什么你认为尼日利亚属于轴心国呢?显然你并不了解这个国家。既然Quora是一个互联网APP,我建议你在发表你的意见之前多多利用互联网搜索并了解事实真相。
Ed Majden
What a bunch of B.S. Canada is part of NORAD and NATO! How can you call us a neutral if we are under the U.S. umbrella and as far as defence is concerned a puppet of the U.S.
见鬼的加拿大是北美防空司令部和北约的一部分!如果我们在美国的保护伞下又如何能称为中立,而且我们的国防也像是美国的傀儡。
Shazain Ahmed Khan1 vote by Rajath Shetty
Pakistan would be smarter to be on the same side as the USA. They are an ally after all….
巴基斯坦将聪明的站在美国这边。毕竟他们是盟友
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Paul Dalton
I thought Canada may abstain as they are uber liberal and have a tendency towards non-violence. Although they were involved in recent wars so you may be right.
我认为加拿大会弃权,因为他们是超级自由主义者并且也有非暴力倾向。尽管他们最近卷入了战争所以没准你还是对了。
Liam Hummel-Ward
The allies you have written on here would not even be close to having superior manpower. The axis on this list would have hundreds of thousands more people who are fit for service.
你列举的盟国都没有兵源优势。轴心国适合参战的人口都多出去几十万。
Trinad Arle
I don’t think India will fight against Russia or with USA. why Nepal and Scandinavian countries are fighting ? These are one of Peaceful nations …
我不认为印度会跟俄罗斯或者美国开战。为什么尼泊尔会跟北欧国家打仗?那都是些最和平的国家……
Shawn Ittinuar
I was reading the answer up to the point where the author listed Canada as an abstainer then I stopped reading.
当我看到加拿大选择弃权时我停止阅读这个答案了。
Andrej Grum
Slovenia is NATO country. If alliance went to war we would not have abstained. We dont have much of an army but thats beside the point.
斯洛文尼亚是北约国家。如果同盟国参战了我们不会弃权的。我们没啥军队,不过不要在意这些细节。
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Puru Mehta
We can’t really say North Korea would be fighting with China etc. They are so unpredictable!
我们可不能简单的预测朝鲜会跟随中国一起战斗。他们太不可预测了!
Iker Vita1 vote by Steve
Excluding nuclear weapons it would not be much of a fight allies should breeze through mainly due to that overwhelming power of the US army.
不上核武器的话这场战斗应该相当轻松,因为美国军队具有压倒性的力量。
Quora User
Canada is neutral but Switzerland is not? We Swiss people would do it like in the last 2 WW’s and stay neutral we’re not in the NATO
加拿大保持中立,但瑞士不是吗?我们的瑞士人会像上二战一样保持中立,我们没有加入北约。
Jack Xie1 vote by Jary Nabilek
it is time of globalization,you forget the third power,the real communists the hackerspeople who take human more important than nationalityetcthey would unit as new power to fight for human instead of nation.
这是全球化的时代,你忘了第三股力量,真正的共产主义者,黑客,以及把人类看得比民族和种族都更加重要的人会形成新的力量从而为全人类而不是国家的利益去战斗。
Sourab Sebastian
Why would Slovakia be in the Allies?
为什么斯洛伐克会成为盟军?
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Sourav Bhattacharjee
If their is a war between US and Russia . Then India will stay neutral and it will try to bring peace. It will also supply necessity items to both the country
如果俄罗斯和美国打仗,印度会保持中立,并且会尝试调解。印度也会给交战双方提供必需品。
Otobong Etuk
Why do you think Nigeria would join the axis. I'm a Nigerian and I know for sure that my country will side with the US and the UK.
为什么你认为尼日利亚会加入轴心国?我是尼日利亚人,我确信我们会加入美国和英国一边。
Sameer Kumar
India does not attack any country unless someone attacks India so it is obvious which side will India take.
印度不会进攻其他国家,除非印度遭到攻击。所以你知道印度会加入哪一边。
Isaac Lingbo Wu
dude saying that the american side is “allies” and the russian side “axis” automatically inplies that you think america WILL win. please use better words next time.
伙计,你管美国那边叫“同盟国”然后管俄罗斯那边叫“轴心国”,你自动暗示你认为美国会赢啦。拜托下次选个好点的词。
ALFRED OGBONDA
Why would Nigeria be with the Axis forces? Nigeria would either be with the so called Allies or be an abstainer
为什么尼日利亚会加入轴心国?尼日利亚会加入同盟国,或者弃权。
Ali Veli
This is a very shitty list. Canada is abstain? Iran is not together with Russia and China?
这名单真烂。加拿大弃权? 伊朗没有跟中俄在一起?
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