CH-901是真正改变游戏规则的武器,并非因为它是首创的便携式杀伤性无人机----首创这个荣誉应归AeroVironment公司的“折刀”----而是因为它是中国制造的用于出口市场的无人机。quora网友:幸运的是,美国不支持进口中国的一堆垃圾产品。否则的话我们就是在支持这个卖武器给我们敌人的国家。
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David Hambling Author Swarm Troopers: How small drones will conquer the world
《黑压压的机群:小型无人机将控制世界》作者:大卫.汉伯林
upxed Jun 19
The CH-901 is a real game-changer not because it's the first lethal portable drone — the AeroVironment Switchblade takes that credit — but because it's being produced by China for the export market.
CH-901是真正改变游戏规则的武器,并非因为它是首创的便携式杀伤性无人机----首创这个荣誉应归AeroVironment公司的“折刀”----而是因为它是中国制造的用于出口市场的无人机。
This is a tactical weapon that can be carried by one soldier and launched from its tube from behind cover. The operator uses the video image beamed back by the drone to locate targets; it can cruise around for up to an hour at speeds of 40–80 mph at a few hundred feet. This long endurance and the ability to find targets on its own make it a loitering munition. Range is around nine miles.
这是一种可以单兵携带的战术武器,从后盖的发射管发射。操作者根据无人机传回的图像锁定目标;它能在几百英尺的空中以40-80英里/小时的速度巡航一小时。这种超长耐力和自我导航搜寻目标的能力,使之成为一种巡飞弹。飞行距离可达9英里。
Once a target is located the CH-901 locks on and dives on it in a Kamikaze-style attack.
一旦目标确定,CH-901就锁定目标俯冲,发起自杀式攻击。
Two key things to note about the CH-901. Unlike the Switchblade it carries a warhead powerful enough to destroy light armoured vehicles — anything short of an M1 Abrams in fact. At six pounds it's a much bigger warhead than an RPG and will hit with much greater accuracy because it's a guided weapon. That means that Bradleys Strykers Hummers and everything else are vulnerable to a portable long-range anti-armor weapon which unllike rockets and missiles has no firing signature. You will not see this coming or know where it was fired from.
关于CH-901要注意两个关键点。它和“折刀”不同,携带的弹头足以摧毁轻型装甲车辆----实际上,除了M1艾布拉姆斯主战坦克之外,都能打爆。6磅重的弹头比RPG火箭筒大的多,因为是制导武器,所以命中精度也高得多。这就意味着,对一种便携远程反装甲武器来说,布拉德利、斯瑞克、悍马和战车都很脆弱,它和火箭、导弹不同,没有发射特征。你看不到它飞过来,也不知道是从哪里发射的。
Of course it can also target soldiers on foot. Lethal radius is several metres and it has high precision. Every time one is used there are likely to be casualties.
当然它也能攻击步兵。杀伤半径几米,有很高的精度。每次一用CH-901,就意味着很可能有伤亡。
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Secondly there are no existing countermeasures. It is hard to detect - no IR signature minimal radar signature and fly low and near-silently. It cannot be engaged by any existing anti-aircraft systems. Sure you could try and shoot it down with a machine gun but even if you know one is coming and where from you have about three seconds to hit a tinyfast-moving target.
其次,目前还没有相应对策。很难检测到它----没有红外特征、只有最小的雷达信号、低空飞行、近乎无声。任何现有的防空系统都束手无策。当然你可以试试用机枪把它击落,但是即使你知道有架CH-901飞过来,也只有3秒钟时间击落一个移动速度极快的小型靶子。
Jamming is one possible solution but only if you know exactly how it is controlled. And modern battlefield comms are extremely hard to jam and getting harder. Optical comms or other counter-countermeasures would make it unjammable.
干扰可能是一种解决方案,但是只有在你知道它是如何控制时才有效。现代战场极难干扰通信,而且变得越来越难。采取光通讯或其他措施将不会受到干扰。
Being on the export market — and made by a company previously sanctioned for selling to enemies of the US — means that American troops are likely to run to the CH-901 sooner rather than later. And being made by the Chinese it may be cheap enough to be sold in large numbers (unlike say guided missiles). Meeting a few of these would be bad news; a lot of them could be a disaster.
由一家此前因为出售武器给美国的敌国而被制裁的公司生产的CH-901已经在出口市场现身----这意味着美国军队可能迟早会遇到CH-901。因为是中国人造的,所以可能会便宜到大量倾销(不像比方说制导导弹那样因为昂贵而稀缺)。遇到几架CH-901就已经够糟了,遇到一堆CH-901就会是一场灾难。
Read more in Popular Mechanics here:
要看更多,就到 Popular Mechanics找这篇文章:
China's Mini-Drone Packs a Heavyweight Punch
中国的小型无人机重拳出击
and more about the emerging capabilities of small drones here — SWARM TROOPERS: how small drones will conquer the world
更多的关于小型无人机突飞猛进的性能的文章在这里----黑压压的机群:小型无人机将控制世界
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Steve Harris 史蒂夫·哈里斯
Steve Harris5 votes Show 史蒂夫·哈里斯5 发言:
When I saw the first video of a Hellfire being launched by a Predator and killing somebody halfway around the world by video I knew we were in for it.
当我第一次看到了地狱火导弹被捕食者无人机发射,在地球的另一端将人杀死 ,我就知道我们进入了一个什么样的世界。
I’ve seen it in SF too. Except it was “Mirror Mirror” the Star Trek (ST TOS) from 1967 where Kirk finds a weapon in alternative-Kirk’s quarters. You snoop on your enemies and if you don’t like them you push a button and they are gone. That Tantalus Field makes assassination just TOO easy.
我在《星际迷航》电视剧上也看到了这一点,除了它是Star Trek: The Original Series 1967 星际迷航1967“镜像镜像”这一集 柯克(译者注:应该是詹姆斯·泰比里厄斯·柯克(James Tiberius Kirk) 在进取号星舰上担任舰长)在宿舍找到一个武器。侦测到你的敌人,如果不喜欢他们,按下一个按钮,呜啦啦,他们都不见了。这个Tantalus Field (译者注:星际迷航的一直侦测工具,有点像雷达卫星之类的)让暗杀变得简直太容易了。
And behold not many years after that the President of the US used a drone to kill al-Awlaki. He was a US citizen and got no jury trial or due process. And he was killed for his opinions. Take that first fourth and fifth amendments. Plus I’ll bet having a missile come through your roof violates your privacy.
而除此之外,没过多少年,美国总统用无人机杀死奥拉基 (al-Awlaki) 他是一个美国公民,没有经过陪审团审判或诉讼程序。而他之所以被杀是因为他的观点不容于当局。见鬼去吧,第四和第五修正案。(译者注:美国宪法第四条修正案是美国权利法案的一部分旨在禁止无理搜查和扣押并要求搜查和扣押状的发出有相当理由的支持。 第五条修正案主要目的是以法定程序来防止政府权力的滥用)另外,我敢打赌导弹曾飞过你的屋顶上空,侵犯过你的隐私。
And all this is done by a president with formal training in constitutional law. Whose own former professors are pounding their heads.
而这一切都是在经过宪法正式教育的总统手里完成的 (译者注:应该是指奥巴马,1991年获哈佛大学法学院法学博士学位),他以前所在学校的教授一定在用拳打自己的头,懊恼不已。
So those things are a drug— a weapon of mass destruction. I see them eventually being internationally outlawed like poison gas and so forth. After the US has gotten as much use as possible out of them of course.
所以这些大规模杀伤性武器都是充满诱惑的毒品 - 一种大规模毁灭性武器。我看到它们终究会在国际上被非法滥用,像化学毒气武器此类一样。然后,美国会尽可能多地使用,超过其他任何人。
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Sunny Mewati4 votes Show
This answer has been reproduced word for word in this article Why China's CL-901 Mini-Drone is a thing to be feared by the Armies of the World.
这个回答全篇复制了<<为什么中国的CL_901微型无人机让其他国家的军队害怕>>这篇文章。
Suttichart Denpreuktham6 votes Show
many missiles also have no radar signature some ATGM (typically older ATGM) are TV-guided
许多导弹也没有雷达成像,一些反坦克导弹(尤其是老一点的反坦克导弹)一直在使用电视制导。
I think the tactical possibility that this new drone missiles presented is interesting but is unlikely to replace the conventional RPG (not 7 but 27 or something else modern military used) not because ot can't penetrate tank armour but because it will be far too few to be carried around dur to its size and weight
我认为这种新型的无人机导弹的出现是有趣的,但是不太可能代替传统的RPG(不是PRG7,而是PRG27或者其他现代的火箭筒)。不是因为它不能穿透坦克装甲而是因为对于它的大小和重量来说太难携带。(RGP是火箭筒)
a super RPG that can fire only once per squard is far too few
对于一个班来说一个超级火箭筒(意思是微型无人机导弹)只能使用一次远远不够。
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Boris Bartlog5 votes Show
I’m not sure why you label it the CL-901 when your sources all call it the CH-901 … unless you have a reason you might want to fix that.
为什么我不知道你为什么叫它CL-901,搜到的所有资料都叫它CH-901... 除非你有充分的理由,否则还是改过来吧。
Razvan Rogoz3 votes Show
Halfway through your book! Amazing content. Loses steam a bit and I feel some content gets repeated but overall I love it. I wonder why no movie / game picked on this trend of drone warfare.
顺路看了你的书!惊人的内容。内容漏气了一些(译者注:应该说的是部分数据不太真实),我觉得某些内容有重复,但总的来说我喜欢它。我不知道为什么没有电影或者游戏大力挖掘使用 无人机战争这一话题和情节。
Altuğ Gür6 votes Show
Is it available to civilians and is there a home delivery option?
它能卖给平民,送货上门吗?
Phil Patterson
If US were to attack China using all Air Force Navy Marine variants of the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor and the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II will this drone be able to stop these fighter jets? Will hundreds of these loitering drones in Chinese airspace be able to destroy squadrons of these F-22 and the F-35 jets?
如果美国空军海军陆战使用所有手上拥有的洛克希德·马丁公司产的F-22猛禽机和 F-35闪电2去攻击中国, 这些无人机能有些阻止它们吗?或者换个说法,数百个这些中国空军的无人驾驶飞机 能够摧毁一个F-22和F-35战斗机中队吗?
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Robert Hill
This IS the misslie from Andy Sidaris film “Seven” in 1979 isn’t it? I still remember it killing the mobster in the parking lot… In all honesty this is a very slippery slope we are travelling as a species…
这导弹是从安迪赛德拉斯1979年的电影《七》里面飞出来的吗?我仍然记得他杀死在停车场的暴徒哈哈哈…说实话,这是我们人类所经历的一个低谷。
Chris Chin
It appears the US has a Phaser countermeasure The Army's Real-Life "Phaser" Would Knock Out a Drone Swarm With One Shot
貌似美国有移相器的应对措施,陆军的“移相器”一击就可以瘫痪一整群的无人机。
Sene Saili
This is pretty scary. Hope we can create counter measures soon for these things
这太可怕了,希望我们可以马上制定出应对这些东西的措施
Logan SanCraint
This reminds me of a Hunter Killer drone in Call of Duty: Black Ops 2.
让我想起了召唤使命秘密行动2里的自爆无人机
Cody Lut1 vote by David Hambling
Luckily the US doesn’t support China by importing a bunch of their cheap garbage products. Otherwise we’d be supporting the very country that’s selling weapons to our enemies.
幸运的是,美国不支持进口中国的一堆垃圾产品。否则的话我们就是在支持这个卖武器给我们敌人的国家。
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Julius Szakacs
Once it’s used in battle and captured a few military would figure out counter measures!
一旦它用于实战被捕获的话,军队就能研究出反制措施
Now days tanks and other expensive armor has it’s own early warning radar sensors against incoming TOW and other missiles and can deploy counter measures automatically. Tanks have reactive armor also so not sure how this little drone would deal with that?
现在坦克或高级别装甲车都配备了自主预警雷达来应对陶式反坦克导弹或者其他类型导弹,并可以自动跟踪捕获目标。而且坦克装备了主动反应装甲,真不知道这个小蜜蜂还有什么办法?
For exmpl:
例如:
Main battle tank T-14 obxt 148 Armata
阿玛塔主战坦克,项目代号:obxt 148
T-14 is equipped with 26.5–40 GHz Active electronically scanned array radar
T-14装备了26.5-40GHZ的有源电子扫描阵列雷达,
which has a range of 100 km and is used mainly by the APS. Up to 40 airborne or 25 ground targets down to 0.3 m (12 in) in size
这种雷达探测范围100公里,主要使用在APS雷达上。可精确分辨0.3m(12英寸)的目标,最多同时跟踪40个空中目标或者25个地面目标。
can be tracked simultaneously. The tracking system provides an automatic firing solution for the destruction of the target which can then be transferred to either the APS or the main gun control computers
跟踪系统为了打击来袭目标提供自动火控方案,将目标传送给APS或主炮控制计算机。
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