quora网友:联合国安理会呈现出这个世界在1945年以来的缩影。说白了,(联合国安理会)代表的是二战战胜国的意志而非其他成员国的意愿。现在我个人还想不出什么有力的论据来说明为什么德日和英法相比尚没有足够的资格坐上常任理事国的座椅。但如果要我单独挑一个国家的话,我会选印度。印度是世界第二大人口国、第七大经济体......
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If you could add one country to the UN security council as a Permanent Member who would it be and why?
如果安理会常任理事国再加一员,你会选谁以及为什么?
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Ernest W. Adams keen but amateur observer of geopolitics.
Written Dec 16 R26; Upvoted by Troy Fisher-Stewart MA International Relations University of Melbourne (2018)
The permanent members are made up of the World War II allies (except that Nationalist China got kicked out in favor of Communist China in the early 70s). The chief goal at the time was to provide a place where countries could resolve their differences without warfare and to prevent the re-emergence of Fascism.
常任理事国成员是由二战盟国组成的(除了为了迎合共产主义中国而在上世纪七十年代被踢出去的中华民国),当时的首要目的是提供给各国一个能够避免战争和防止法西斯主义再现的解决分歧的场所。
I would add India. Japan would be good too but the Russians and Chinese would scream bloody murder because it's such a close ally of the US. But India has been part of the non-aligned movement and it still has a decent claim to having been a WWII ally as well as a democracy.
我很愿意添上印度。日本也行但是俄罗斯人和中国人会怒火中烧的扼杀(这个想法)因为他们都是美国的亲密盟友,但是印度是不结盟运动成员并且也是一个拥有民主的二战盟友。
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Amir Davis Military Veteran Degrees in Biochemistry and Medicine
Written Jan 16
The UN Security council represents a snapshot of the world as it was in 1945. Even more to the point it represents the will of the victors in WWII not the will of the community of nations. Today there is no valid argument that I can personally think of to explain why Germany or Japan are less deserving of a permanent seat on the council than France or Britain. But if I were to pick a single country it would have to be India.
联合国安理会呈现出这个世界在1945年以来的缩影。说白了,(联合国安理会)代表的是二战战胜国的意志而非其他成员国的意愿。现在我个人还想不出什么有力的论据来说明为什么德日和英法相比尚没有足够的资格坐上常任理事国的座椅。但如果要我单独挑一个国家的话,我会选印度。
India the world’s second most populous country with the 7th largest economy. If you look at GDP per capita India is ranked 141st in the world at $1600 per person. This means that if they only double this (which is only a matter of time at India’s rate of economic growth and her huge human potential) to being 70th in the world they will already be tied with Japan as the world’s third largest economy.
印度是世界第二大人口国、第七大经济体。如果你看GDP,那印度以人均1600美元的水平排在141位。这意味着他们只要翻一番(以印度的经济增长率和人口潜力这仅仅只是时间问题)就能追到第70名,她将成为世界第三大经济体,近乎和日本并驾齐驱
Ultimately there should be some mechanism for reviewing the composition of this council’s permanent membership every quarter century or so at the very least and preferably doing away with the veto wielded by these countries. It pretty much renders the UN and its resolutions irrelevant in my humble opinion.
最后,(联合国)还应设立一个审核常任理事资格的机构,至少每25年左右审核一次,而且最好能取消这些常任理事国行使的否决票。依我浅见,这种否决权几乎让联合国及其决议变得可有可无。
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Demos Caldis 17 ENTP
Written Nov 14
First I’m assuming you mean as a Permanent Member thus joining China Russia the US the UK and France (there are also 10 non-permanent members without the veto power that are elected by the GA and rotate every two years) I think the best country to add and the one that would cause the least conflict is India. Generally you should know that there are four countries that have consistently asked to be on the Security Council. Japan Germany Brazil and India. Out of those India makes most sense as in the other cases there is always a major issue. Germany is immediately excluded as there is already sufficient and maybe too much representation from European Countries. Both Brazil and Japan have problems that I won’t go into right now. The positive thing about India it is the only of the four that all 5 permanent members have at some point supported its bid to be a permanent member. Additionaly is posseses Nuclear Weapons which under the NPT is only allowed for Permanent Members of the Security Council. Additionally it is a growing superpower in today’s society. The main issue with India is that Pakistan is very heavilly opposed to it gaining such status. But in general the chance of any reform happening to the way the SC works is very slight even though it may be necessary.
首先我猜你指的是常任理事国,就是加入中俄美英法(还有10个没有否决权的非常任成员国,由联大选举产生,每两年轮换),我觉得最佳选项是印度,所引起的冲突将最小。有四个国家坚持加入安理会,分别是日本,德国,巴西和印度。其中印度加入最合理,因为其他三个国家都存在主要问题。德国被立马排除,因为欧洲国家的比重已经很大了。巴西和日本的问题我现在不想多说。印度积极的一面在于有四个常任理事国在某个节点上都支持印度加入。此外,印度拥有核武器,在《核不扩散条约》下只有安理会常任理事国才能拥有核武器。此外印度还是个成长中的超级强国。印度的主要问题是巴基斯坦非常反对印度获取这样的地位。但是安理会运作方式要想进行改革,机会是非常小的,尽管有改革的必要。
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Roc Lee I have been brainwashing by test
Written Dec 15
It is obvous that there are two allies in security councilI mean permanent members. UK France and USA are one and China Russia are Another. To keep the balance the new member shall never be a new ally of USA side.
很明显,安理会里面有2个派系,我是说常任理事国之中。美、法、英都是一伙的,中俄是另一伙。想要保持平衡的话,那么新成员绝不会是美国那一边的。
A none-ally country will be the best sextion.what’s morea powerless none-ally country is meaningless because the most contradictory problem in the security council inevitablly entails the interest of these powerful country.
一个不结盟的国家应该是最合适成为常任理事国成员的了,然而没有盟友的弱国呆在常任理事国的位置上也毫无意义。因为安理会最矛盾的问题就是不可避免地需要协调强国之间的利益关系。
But where is this kind of country?I have no idea.India maybe powerfulbut become the member of security council first.
但这种国家哪里有呢?我不知道,或许印度会变得强大起来,但它首先得成为安理会成员国。(译者:我记得印度好像当选过非常任安理会成员国,不过这两年不是)
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Christopher Kelly works at E-Poll
Written Jan 16
My answer would be…Poland. No nation suffered more as a percentage of total people killed during World War II. The Second World War in Europe began with Hitler’s invasion of Poland on September 1 1939. Though the Allies won the won Poland indisputably did not. This largely Roman Catholic country was occupied by Stalin’s Red Army. Warsaw was blasted by the Nazis and then by the Communists. It was of course World War II that gave birth to the United Nations. No nation understands the enormous costs of war more than Poland.
Over 3 million Polish Jews perished in the Holocaust. Poland was the site of Auschwitz Treblxa and Sobibór among others. Poland remembers the horrors that the Nazis caused and will be act against any future Holocausts whether directed by the right or the left.
我的回答是……波兰。在第二次世界大战期间,没有一个国家的死亡人数占总人数的百分比比波兰更高了。第二次世界大战是从1939年9月1日希特勒入侵波兰开始的。虽然盟军最后赢了,但波兰无可争议地输了。这个主要人口是罗马天主教徒的国家被斯大林的红军占领。华沙被纳粹分子炸了一遍之后,又被共产主义者炸了一遍。第二次世界大战催生了联合国,这毫无疑问。没有哪个国家比波兰更懂战争所要付出的巨大代价。
超过300万波兰犹太人在这场浩劫中丧生。其中奥斯维辛集中营、特雷布林卡灭绝营和索比堡灭绝营都在波兰(译者:我记得还有马伊达内克集中营也在波兰)。波兰铭记纳粹所造成的恐怖,并将反对未来任何形式的屠杀,不管是由右派还是左派发起的。
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Poland among all nations knows and appreciates the blessings of freedom and self-determination. When the chips are down she will stand with and support the rights of freedom-loving people around the globe. Poland may not be a major economic powerhouse and she does not possess nuclear weapons but these makes her all the more representative of the rest of the world’s nations that do NOT sit on the Security Council (unlike India Pakistan Israel etc.).
Moreover Poland is properly skeptical of Putin’s Russia. Russia invaded Georgia in 2008 and Crimea in 2014. Russia attempted the “hack” the US elections. Russia’s goal seems to to be the destruction of the NATO Alliance.
Poland is the perfect counterweight to the growling of an aggressive and unscrupulous Russian bear.
I nominate Poland.
所有国家中,波兰是理解并且欣赏自由的美好和民族自决的。当关键时刻来临时,她将站在支持爱好自由的人们这一边,并维护他们在全球范围内的权利(译者:波兰还是先管好自己吧)。波兰可能不是一个主要的经济强国,她也没有核武器,但这些使她更能够代表世界那些在安理会中没有席位的国家(不像印度、巴基斯坦、以色列等国)。
此外,波兰对普京的俄罗斯始终保持怀疑态度。2008年俄罗斯入侵了格鲁吉亚,2014年入侵了克里米亚。俄罗斯还企图“黑进”美国大选。俄罗斯的目标似乎是打算摧毁北约。
波兰的存在对于咆哮的、咄咄逼人的、无耻的俄国毛熊来说,就是一个完美的平衡点。(译者:迷之自信)
我提名波兰。
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