reddit网友:我完全同意,这不是驻外大使应该说的。不过,我也觉得正式道歉应该够了,匈牙利现在正在做的事情已经有点过分了。正如你所说的,大使亲自发表了这一声明,在他的任期结束时,他已经做出了正式的道歉。没有理由去切断所有的外交关系,除非你另有目的。
Hungary suspends diplomatic ties with the Netherlands
匈牙利暂停和荷兰的外交关系
halfpipesaur(波兰)
rivalry ended with Finland
Now Hungary is the greatest enemy
和芬兰的竞争结束。
现在最大的敌人是匈牙利。
BrianSometimes(丹麦)
Stats rivalry with Hungary is a bit like playing football with your 3 year old nephew, I imagine.
和匈牙利进行数据竞争就像是和你三岁的小侄子一起踢足球,我觉得。
philip1201(荷兰)
They beat Finland in some stats.
他们在一些数据方面击败了芬兰。
(注:欧洲网速图)
meridius55(匈牙利)
26mbit in Germany, I'm not buying that.
德国的网速才26兆,我才不会买它。
ConstableBlimeyChips(荷兰)
I wouldn't either. 26mbps is barely enough to watch porn in HD on both screens.
我也不会。26兆的网速还不够我双开看高清片子的。
(???主题不是匈牙利和荷兰断交吗??)
Chariotwheel(德国)
Our internet infrastructure is well behind where it should be. Sadly our politicians don't see it as something you can win your election with, so we mostly get empty "yeah, we should improve that".
我们的互联网基础设施远远落后于我们本应成为的样子。可悲的是,我们的政客并不把这方面看作是能帮他们赢的选票的东西,所以我们得到的都是空头支票“啊,嗯,这点我们应该改进”。
Eberon(德国)
I'd buy it if I could get it. Unfortunately, though, I have to live with 5.5 Mbps.
26兆的网速我想买还买不到呢。不幸的是,我不得不与5.5 兆的网速生活。
Cakelord85(荷兰)
The Dutch Foreign Minister said yesterday morning something along the lines of "There should be no way that the Hungarian government should ever be compared to a terrorist organisation. This is not good and I distance myself from what the ambassador has said".
荷兰外交部长昨天说了一些类似“不应该把匈牙利政府比作恐怖组织。这是不对的,我不同意大使所说的”的话。
kristynaZ(捷克)
That comparison really was over the top. Even if we accepted that there are some parallels, this is still not a way to talk about the country you were sent to as a diplomat. Specially not if you clearly don't have the approval of your government/foreign ministry for making this kind of statements.
这种比较真的是太过分了。即使我们确实认为有一些相似之处,但这不是一个谈论你出使的国家的方式。特别是很明显你没有得到你们政府/外交部长的批准来做这种陈述的时候。
Cakelord85(荷兰)
I agree completely, it is not something a foreign ambassador should ever say. However I also feel a formal apology should be enough, and what Hungary is doing now is over the top. As you said the ambassador made that statement on his own, during the end of his period there, and there have been formal apologies already.
There is no reason to just cut all diplomatic ties, unless you have some kind of agenda yourself.
我完全同意,这不是驻外大使应该说的。不过,我也觉得正式道歉应该够了,匈牙利现在正在做的事情已经有点过分了。正如你所说的,大使亲自发表了这一声明,在他的任期结束时,他已经做出了正式的道歉。
没有理由去切断所有的外交关系,除非你另有目的。
Bristlerider(德国)
This reaction also supports the point he made.
He didnt say Hungary are terrorists, he says the hungarian goverment sees the world as black and white, and considers everybody that doesnt support them an enemy.
And well, judging from their reaction, they really do.
匈牙利的这种反应也支持了他(大使)的观点。
他没有说匈牙利是恐怖分子,他说匈牙利政府把世界看成是非黑即白的,并认为每个不支持他们的人都是敌人。
好吧,从他们的反应来看,他们确实如此。
Istencsaszar(匈牙利)
Pretty much this
差不多就是这样吧。
kristynaZ(捷克)
Yep, Hungary is over-reacting. But then, it's Orbán, so what would you expect. Your ambassador actually wasn't that far away from the truth, it was just the way he put it that was inappropriate.
没错,匈牙利反应过度了。但是匈牙利的总理是欧尔班,你还能期待什么?你们大使说的和真相并不遥远,只是方式欠妥。
mihnea100(罗马尼亚)
this will be one boring war, no way to attack one another without getting military access from at least 3 countries.
这将会是一场无聊的战争,他们至少要3个国家的军事通行许可才能互相攻击到对方。
yxhuvud(瑞典)
Hmm, is it not enough with germany and austria?
嗯嗯嗯...德国和奥地利的还不够吗?
bobbygirlyman(德国)
If it comes to war, you don't march through Germany, Germany marches through you.
如果谈到战争,你不会穿越德国,而德国会穿越你。
Ice00Angel(塞尔维亚)
except for the red army ofcourse
嗯没错,除了苏联红军。
OnigriziaOmorte(南非)
That's why buffer states like Belgium were created, it also sometimes served as a battlefield, nice flat terrain for 1:1, no mountainous crooks, creaks and corners to hide and give advantage.
这就是为什么要创建像比利时那样的缓冲国,它有时也用作战场,非常好的1V1的平坦地形,没有山地给你隐藏和埋伏的优势。
FearLoathingHolland(荷兰)
Belgium isn't that flat mate
比利时并不平坦,老弟
Whipfather
... yet.
......对啊。
ShebW(瓦隆尼亚)
Schenghen deal doesn't cover armies?
申根协定不包括军队吗?
(注:《申根协定》:Schengen Agreement,1985年6月,德国、法国等五国在卢森堡边境小镇申根签署了《关于逐步取消共同边界检查》协定,又称《申根协定》)
andthatswhyIdidit
1.free movement of goods (arms)
2.free movement of workers (soldiers)
Now, we could argue details but in general.. why not?!
1.货物可以自由流通(武器)
2.工人可以自由流动(士兵)
现在,我们可以争论一下细节,但总的来说...为什么不呢?!
HCTerrorist39(罗马尼亚)
what armies? are you talking about those tourists with paintball guns? they should learn that from the russian tourists in Ukraine.
什么军队?你是说那些拿着彩弹枪的游客吗?他们应该和在乌克兰的俄罗斯游客学习一下。
NNJB
Dutch power projection: - Insulted Hungary (+5)
荷兰力量投射:——侮辱匈牙利(+5)(注:在游戏《欧陆风云4》中,侮辱宿敌会增加5点力量投射)
hipokryzja
This means war, right?
Stroopwafel vs Gulash, place your bets.
这意味着战争,对吗?
荷式松饼VS炖牛肉,买定离手了啊。
Chroevski(地球)
Cold stroopwafel gulash?
冷荷式松饼炖牛肉呢?
Digital-Hermit
Pleasantly surprised, thought I was gonna be horrified clicking on that
这真是一个“惊喜”,不过我想我会被这个吓到的。
sndrtj
I'm sure a Kroket Gulash already exists.
我敢确定炖牛肉可乐饼已经存在了。
Thetonn(英格兰)
Netherlands with a 90% Warscore, then Russia invades, turns Hungary into a vassal, becomes leader of the war effort, and then annexes the Netherlands, turning it into West Narva.
尼德兰会赢得90%的战争分数,然后俄罗斯干预,把匈牙利变为附庸,成为了战争的主导者,然后吞并了尼德兰,变身西纳尔瓦。
plisovyi
/r/eu4/ is bleeding …
@欧陆风云4
kaaz54(丹麦)
Russia can't intervene in the war if there isn't another great power on one of the sides. And the HRE will interfere if Russia tries to attack either side.
如果一方没有另一大国,俄罗斯就不能介入战争。如果有,那当俄罗斯试图攻击任何一方的时候神圣罗马帝国就会进行干预。
Thetonn(英格兰)
It isn't 1680. The Netherlands aren't a great power because like us, all their colonies were ungrateful pricks.
HRE here is the EU, whose imperial authority is basically zero already, after five years of the Euro and Migration Crisis modifiers.
这不是1680年,荷兰不是一个强国,因为像我们一样,他们的所有殖民地都背弃他们了。
在这里,欧盟就像是神圣罗马帝国,在经历欧元和移民危机之后,其皇权已基本为零了。
Zaungast(加拿大)
like us, all their colonies were ungrateful pricks.
Tfw your parents will never want you.
“因为像我们一样,他们的所有殖民地都背弃他们了。”
我们当时的心情是,被父母抛弃了。
Thetonn(英格兰)
If you wanted love and affection, you should have been able to conquer Maine.
如果你想要得到关心和爱护,你本可以征服缅因州的。
simms252(荷兰)
We make kroketten from their gulash. We'll be home by christmas!
我们会用他们的炖牛肉做出炸鱼丸条。我们将在圣诞节前回家!(黝黑我五星上将)
(注:炸鱼丸条,荷兰美食)
Executioner1337(匈牙利)
As a Hungarian, I'd prefer the Stroopwafels
作为一个匈牙利人,我更喜欢荷兰松饼。
Grofgeschut(荷兰)
You are hereby no longer on par with ISIS, have an orange ribbon.
好,授予你橙丝带,你不再会和ISIS相提并论了。
(注:荷兰尚橙色)
uitham
Why cant we compromise? Gulashkroketten for life!
为什么我们不能折中一下?炖牛肉松饼赛高!
meridius55(匈牙利)
still waiting for Herr Szíjjártó to cease diplomatic relations with Russia as well since they never apologized for openly claiming the revolution of 1956 was forged by the CIA and ex-nazis.
我还在等 Herr Szíjjártó 也和俄罗斯断绝外交关系,因为他们从未对公开宣称1956年革命是由中央情报局和前纳粹分子伪造的这种说法道歉。
RafaRealness(荷兰)
“Szíjjártó”
Wha... How do you even pronounce this? Every vowel has an accent and there are two Js in a row.
卧槽......这个单词(Szíjjártó)你们也念得出来?每个元音都有重音,一行有两个JS。
vinylram(匈牙利)
See-yar-tow
跟我念:西——吖——透
piwikiwi(荷兰)
Lol, in the Netherlands nobody gives a shit about this
哈哈哈,在荷兰,没人在乎这件事。
BrianSometimes(丹麦)
Wait for the bicycle burning in public squares. Stay strong, Netherlands!
等着公共广场上燃烧的自行车吧(恐袭)。一定要坚强,尼德兰!
piwikiwi(尼德兰)
Do you mean there will be business opportunities to sell them new bikes?
你的意思是出现了卖新自行车给他们的商机?
just_szabi
Oh boy, I'm burning bicycles and caravans every hour. And van Nistelrooy jerseys.
我靠,我现在每个钟都在烧自行车和大篷车,对了,还有范尼的球衣。(注:范尼是荷兰着名足球明星)
lordsleepyhead(荷兰)
Here's a picture of us being absolutely devastated by this news
这里有一张表达我们被这个消息彻底震惊的照片。
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