为何沙特对待南亚和东南亚人比对待西方和东亚人恶劣？ [美国媒体]

Why does Saudi Arabia treat South Asian and Southeast Asian people worse than western and East Asian people?

为何沙特对待南亚和东南亚人比对待西方和东亚人恶劣？


1.    AnonymousAnswered Apr 4, 2016
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In Saudi, respect isnaturally attained based on the nationality of the person. It is never theindividual identity of a person but rather the national identity of the person.Saudi's in general like to generalize. They apply certain characteristics toeach nationality to each individual and that is the sum  of all that person has achieved even if it isdifferent in reality.

在沙特阿拉伯，一个人所能获得的尊重基本上与他的国籍相关。在沙特，他们不看你的个人身份，他们只看你的国籍。沙特人总是先给一个国家的国籍赋予某种认识，然后再将这个国家的人与这种认识进行绑定，不管你实际是什么样子，他们都把你看成是一群相同的人。

In addition, theimportance of each nationality is based on what level or extent of power thatnationality plays out on the International stage. For example,Americans....Saudis generally consider Americans along with British and otherEuropeans as very powerful. Their economies are big and consequently theirimportance is high. It also helps that Saudis as a culture view fair skin as aplus and dark and colored skin as a minus. 

此外，每一个国家的国籍的重要性还与这个国家在国际舞台上的影响力相关。比如美国，沙特认为美国人和英国人及其它欧洲国家都是很强大的国家。这些国家经济强大，所以，这些国家在沙特人的眼里面，重要性更大。这也导致沙特人在看到白皙皮肤的人的时候会给这些人加分，看到深色皮肤的人的时候会给减分。（译者注：中东是等级分明的，不同国家的人，干同样的工作，拿不同的工资）

Moreover, it wasStandard Oil in America that brought forth its expertise to set up SaudiAramco. Till the late 1980s Aramco stood for Arabian American Oil Company.Since the 1980s Saudi govt took over full control and has been renamed SaudiAramco with a different logo.

更何况，是美国出技术帮助沙特阿拉伯建立了阿美石油公司（译者注：1933年，美国加利福尼亚美孚石油公司与沙特阿拉伯王国签署协定 ，获得了在沙特阿拉伯东部进行石油勘探、开采、加工 、运输、销售66年的特权 。同年开办加利福尼亚-阿拉伯美孚石油公司。1976年沙特政府与该公司达成了由沙特政府全部接管的基本协议。）。直到上个世纪80年代，阿美石油公司的含义都是“阿拉伯人和美国人的石油公司”！从上个世纪八十年代开始，沙特政府开始接管控制阿美石油公司，从此，阿美公司才更换了新的图标。

Then from the Saudipoint of view, a country's economic status is viewed by how many economicmigrants they send over. It is a sad fact that India, Pakistan and other SoutheastAsian Countries have more economic migrants. However, the no. of migrantscoming from China/Korea and Japan are less.

从沙特人的观点来看，一个国家的经济地位从这个国家往沙特派的劳务派遣工的数量里面可以推测出来。一个悲哀的事实是，巴基斯坦，印度和其他东南亚国家往沙特派了非常多的劳动力。相反，中国和日本及韩国往沙特派遣的劳工就少得多。

Lastly, Saudigovernment  looks at the diplomatic cloutthat the embassies have. Countries like India, never bother about theircitizens lying overseas. In fact, this is one reason why Indians and Pakistanisare treated so badly. In contrast, if an American was involved in Saudi Arabia,the American Embassy would swoop down to save them. This also helps.

最后，沙特政府关注的是外国大使馆的外交影响力。有些国家比如印度和巴基斯坦，他们从来不管海外工作的劳工的死活。事实上，这就是为什么印度人和巴基斯坦人在沙特被如此虐待的原因。相反，如果一个美国人在沙特被卷入官司的话，大使馆会积极的去营救他们。这都是有作用的。

下图：不堪忍受折磨试图逃跑 印度妇女遭沙特雇主砍掉右手

              
                              
下图：沙特阿拉伯建筑工人被欠薪，公司声称放弃薪水才能取回护照 


                     
Sadly, it is a fact thatSaudis have their racism so deeply entrenched in their minds that no matter howfar or fast the economies of certain countries grow, their small minds willnever grow large enough to embrace change and stop their prejudiced views.

非常可悲，实际情况是这样的——沙特人的种族主义根深蒂固，以至于无论某些国家的经济增长有多快，他们的小脑袋永远不会长大，不会接受改变，他们绝对不会停止他们的偏见。

2.    Qamar Munir（此君说话不加标点，愁人！！！）Qamar Munir, Lived inSaudi Arabia for a while.
Answered Apr 3, 2016
Saudi Arabia has thefourth largest immigrant population in the world the largest of them beingIndians while the second are Pakistani so it would make sense that when a ruleor law is broken by an immigrant it is most likely a South Asian because theyare so many in numbers.

沙特阿拉伯拥有着全球第四大的移民人口，其中最大的人口移入国是印度，第二大人口移入国是巴基斯坦。所以，当沙特的法律被破坏的时候，我们很容易知道这是印度人或者巴基斯坦人干的，因为他们的人数是最多的。

Also Saudi is right nowin a process of phasing out the large number of illegal immigrants and thepolice are encouraged to be harsh with them to create a sense of fear amongother immigrants who stay back in Saudi Arabia illegally  and take up jobs.

沙特目前正在逐步减少非法移民数量，他们鼓励警方对这些非法移民采取严厉手段。这些非法移民滞留在沙特，他们会从事某些工作。通过对这些人采取严厉措施，可以在其他移民中制造一种恐慌感。

Most of the South Asianpopulation are laborers with low wages while the western people are mostly ifnot all very rich and hold high positions and unfortunately poor people insociety are treated poorly by others that is human nature however a rich andeducated South Asian will not be harassed by officials as money andqualifications hold value no matter where.

大多数的南亚人在沙特从事的都是苦力，他们薪水很低。而西方人在沙特即使不是全部，那他们中的大多数也都是职位很高的。不幸的是，在任何社会，穷人总是会被残酷的对待，这是人性。一个受到良好教育的富裕的南亚人绝对不会遭受到事务官的骚扰。因为金钱和身份在任何社会都是被珍视，被尊重的。

You can notice this attraffic checkpoints that people driving high end luxury SUV are rarely asked tostop for checking no matter who is sitting inside while old beat up cars aremost susceptible to inspection.

你可以注意一下，在车经过交通检查站的时候，如果一个人开的是高端豪华SUV，那么不管坐在里面的人是谁，都很少被要求停下来检查。而如果你的车是老款的话，那你被检查的概率大增。

Lastly I have noticedthat a lot of Saudis are arrogant and take huge pride in their culture andheritage and have a negative attitude towards migrants while the migrants dueto this also have a negative attitude towards Saudis and this has created arift between them

最后我要强调一点，我注意到很多沙特人是非常傲慢的，他们对于他们的文化和传统非常的自负。他们倾向于用消极态度去对待移民，而移民也会用消极的眼光看待沙特人，这在某种程度上造成了两个群体间的分裂。

3.    Safir AzizSafir Aziz, Was. Am.Will. Be in Riyadh for a while.
Answered Apr 3, 2016
I stand to objectMr.Qamar Munir. Though i agree a very few of them. The reasons I find justifyingmy point are as followsSince the Westerners and East Asians are not very inclined to work in Saudi Arabia (due tovarious social factors and much better priorities), there is no influx inmillions akin to the South or  South EastAsians.

尽管卡马尔.穆尼尔先生的很多说法我都赞同，但是我还是要反对他。我认为东亚人和西方人被善待的原因是因为西方人和东亚人不太愿意在沙特工作，这可能涉及到很多的社会因素，也许他们有更好的选择。东亚和西方并没有像东南亚和南亚那样往沙特派了那么多的外籍劳工。

Due to the abovementioned factor only a niche of Westerners &E Asians do come here, 99% ofthem being professionals meanwhile the vast majority of South or S.East Asiansare less educated doing menial jobs, many of them even do not have clear legaldocumentations to support their stay or the job they do. 

由于以上提到的一些因素，西方或者东亚来到沙特的人中，99%都是有着正经工作的有专业特长的人士。而南亚和东南亚的人口很多都是教育水平低的人，他们从事的都是很低级的佣人或者体力劳动这样的低阶工作。他们中的很多人甚至没有合法的入境手续，没有他们所从事工作的任职资格。

One check at the crimerate comparison for the two Asian geographic populace here  and you will be further convinced about theactions that seems biased otherwise. Those seasoned bootleggers, drugtraffickers or petty crime thieves are all South or S.East Asians (Incomparison)Now these factors makes the latter probable violators in the eyes oflaw enforcers, increasing the chances of them being scrutinized or checked forby the concerned more often. You cant blame the local law enforcers for this.

东亚为一组，东南也和南亚为一组，比较一下两者的犯罪率，很容易就能看出差别。如此一来，你自然就知道为何沙特人会对南亚和东南亚人有偏见了。那些职业走私犯，毒枭以及小毛贼基本都是南亚人或者东南亚人。因为这些情况，使得当地的执法者会把注意力放在他们身上，你不能责怪当地的执法者。

Now coming to theattitude of ordinary citizens here. From my experience, they have decentrespect for professionals or the educated lot, no matter from which hell holeyou are.  I assume it is is the same inmost societies around the world, the well learned are given more respect.

现在，让我们来看看普通市民。以我的经历来看，不管你来自哪里，他们对于专业人士和受到良好教育的人士都是非常客气的。我相信在世界上的大多数的社会里面，都是这样的——博学之士总是得到更多的尊重。

Though there exist apositive bias towards Westerners ,as is in any Asian countries or elsewhere.The Westerners always receive more respect (Whether they deserve it is aseparate matter) I wont deny the fact that a small percentage of Saudis doactually look down  on the south Asian orSouth East Asians mostly. 

沙特人对于西方国家有一些偏见，但是，他们对其他亚洲国家的人也是有偏见的。西方人总体上还是会受到更多的尊重。至于这些人是否应该得到这些尊重，这是另外一个话题了。当然，我毫不怀疑有一部沙特人会对大多数的南亚人和东南亚人有偏见 。