中国测试高超声速武器,使美国萨德无法防御 [美国媒体]

未来战争的技术正在迅速发展,北京率先推进了第一个现代化的特超音速滑翔飞行器(HGV)。根据该TheDiplomat(美国外交官亚太时事杂志)的报道,这武器的名字是东风(东边的风),简称东风-17,旨在挑战现有的导弹防御系统,如美国的反弹道导弹防御系统:末段高空区域防御系统(THAAD)

China Tests Hypersonic Weapon, Rendering US THAAD Powerless

中国测试高超声速武器,使美国萨德无法防御

【日期】2017年12月29日

The art of (future) war is rapidly evolving with Beijing spearheading the push into the first modern operational hypersonic glide vehicle (HGV). According to The Diplomat, the weapon, known as the Dong Feng (“East Wind”), DF-17 for short, is designed to challenge existing missile defense systems, such as America’s anti-ballistic missile defense system called: Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD).

未来战争的技术正在迅速发展,北京率先推进了第一个现代化的特超音速滑翔飞行器(HGV)。根据该TheDiplomat(美国外交官亚太时事杂志)的报道,这武器的名字是东风(东边的风),简称东风-17,旨在挑战现有的导弹防御系统,如美国的反弹道导弹防御系统:末段高空区域防御系统(THAAD)



An unnamed U.S. government source, who has studied recent intelligence reports on the People’s Liberation Army Rocket Force (PLARF), said China conducted two separate tests of the hypersonic missile back in November. The first test was conducted on November 01 and the second test took place on November 15. The Diplomat signals, that the November 01 test was the first Chinese ballistic missile launch to take place after the Communist Party of China’s 19th Party Congress in October.

一位未透露姓名的美国政府消息人士说,中国在去年11月进行了两次独立的高超音速导弹试验。该消息人士曾研究过有关中国人民解放军火箭部队(PLARF)的最新情报报告。第一次测试是在11月1日进行的,第二次测试是在11月15日进行的。这名外交官发出信号称,11月01日的试验是中国共产党10月19日召开的第19届党代会之后,中国首次进行弹道导弹发射。



Following half-dozen development tests between 2014-2016, the most recent tests were launched from the Jiuquan Space Launcher Center in Inner Mongolia. The Diplomat then explains thatthe November 01 test was widely viewed as successful after the hypersonic weapon hit its intended target “within meters.”

在2014-2016年进行了6次发展测试之后,最新的测试是在内蒙古的酒泉空间发射中心发射的。这位外交官随后解释说,在高超音速武器击中预定目标数米之内,11月01日的测试被广泛认为是成功的。

During the November 1 test flight, which took place from the Jiuquan Space Launcher Center in Inner Mongolia, the missile’s payload flew to a range of approximately 1,400 kilometers with the HGV flying at a depressed altitude of around 60 kilometers following the completion of the DF-17’s ballistic and reentry phases.

11月1日试飞期间,发生在内蒙古酒泉航天发射中心,导弹载荷飞行了约1400公里,其搭载的高超声速滑翔弹头在东风-17导弹结束弹道飞行,再入大气层后,在60公里的高度进行了高超声速滑翔。

HGVs begin flight after separating from their ballistic missile boosters, which follow a standard ballistic trajectory to give the payload vehicle sufficient altitude.

高超声速滑翔器由弹道导弹的助推器推进来获得进入滑翔所需的速度,助推器按照标准的弹道导弹轨迹飞行,在下降段达到预定高度后与滑翔器分离。

Parts of the U.S. intelligence community assess that the DF-17 is a medium-range system, with a range capability between 1,800 and 2,500 kilometers. The missile is expected to be capable of delivering both nuclear and conventional payloads and may be capable of being configured to deliver a maneuverable reentry vehicle instead of an HGV.

美国情报部门的专家评估,东风-17是一种中程系统,射程在1800到2500公里之间。
这枚导弹预计将能够同时搭载核弹头和常规弹头,如果不用来投射高超声速滑翔器,它也可以携带弹道可变的弹头。

Most of the missile’s flight time during the November 1 flight test was powered by the HGV during the glide phase, the source said. The missile successfully made impact at a site in Xinjiang Province, outside Qiemo, “within meters” of the intended target, the source added. The duration of the HGV’s flight was nearly 11 minutes during that test.

该消息人士称,在11月1日的飞行测试中,大部分导弹的飞行时间都是在滑翔阶段由的高超声速飞行器自身的动力驱动的。该消息人士还说,这枚导弹成功命中新疆境内靠近格尔木附近的靶场,落点距离预定目标“在几米内”。此次飞行中,高超音速滑翔器动力飞行时间约为11分钟。



The source told The Diplomat, this was “the first HGV test in the world using a system intended to be fielded operationally.” U.S. intelligence assessments indicate the DF-17 could be operational as soon as 2020.
消息源称,中国在11月期间测试的高超声速滑翔器是专门为东风-17研制的,同时他表示,美国情报界的评估认为,东风-17主要是基于解放军火箭军的东风-16B导弹研制,后者已经部署。

China just showed its hypersonic-BGV in a vid on 08 Oct. Probably a test design model, but AFAIK this is first pics of an actual object 1/ pic.twitter.com/EXIMHkXTEA
— Raymond Wang (@soraywang) November 5, 2017

东风-17这次试飞前不久,中国中央电视台在10月8号的节目中首次发布了一张疑似高超声速飞行器模型照片。现在还不清楚这个模型和东风-17是否有关系,

“Although hypersonic glide vehicles and missiles flying non-ballistic trajectories were first proposed as far back as World War II, technological advances are only now making these systems practicable,” Vice Admiral James Syring, director of the U.S. Missile Defense Agency, said in June, during a testimony before the U.S. House Armed Services Committee.

美国导弹防御局局长詹姆斯·辛林(James Syring)中曾在六月份美国参议院军事委员会的听证会上表示:“尽管高超声速滑翔器,或者说不完全按照弹道方式飞行的弹道导弹技术,可以追溯到第二次世界大战时期,但直到最近,技术进步才使这些系统切实可行。在美国众议院军事委员会的证词中。

In 2015, Lockheed Martin, well aware of China’s HGV threat, dusted off their plans to upgrade its THAAD missile system to counter hypersonic weapons.

2015年,深知中国HGV威胁的洛克希德·马丁公司,他们打算升级其THAAD导弹系统来对付超音速武器。

Lockheed Martin is hoping the maturing threat of hypersonic boost glide vehicles from ambitious adversaries will spark interest in the company’s dormant plan to design a more capable interceptor for the Terminal High-Altitude Area Defense (Thaad) air defense system.

洛克希德·马丁公司希望借助来自雄心勃勃的对手的超音速助推滑翔机日益成熟的威胁,引起人们对该公司的休眠计划的兴趣,为末段高空区域防御(Thaad)防空系统设计一个更强大的拦截器。

Chinese officials confirmed they conducted a test last month of what they are calling a hypersonic strike vehicle. U.S. officials worry this missile could outsmart their defenses.

中国官员证实,他们上个月进行了一场他们称之为超音速轰炸机的测试。美国官员担心这种导弹可能会超过他们的防御。

That said, China is not the only superpower in the HGV game, the United States and Russia are developing hypersonic weapons, as well.
And lastly, the Rand Corporationwarns, “the trajectory and capabilities of HGVs provide them with some unprecedented attributes that may be disruptive to current military doctrines of advanced nations.”

也就是说,中国不是HGV游戏中唯一的超级大国,美国和俄罗斯也在发展超音速武器。最后,兰德公司警告说,“HGV的轨迹和能力为它们提供了一些前所未有的属性,可能是破坏当前先进国家的军事理论“。




Test it please, on Washington.

请在华盛顿测试一下。

US has operational HGV. Wants to test it on NK. Intimidate other countries.

美国已经运行HGV。想在NK(朝鲜)测试它。恐吓其他国家。
               
THAAD is updated POS of Patriot missile.

THAAD更新了爱国者导弹的POS系统。
          
Laughable games by the scum.  Just more scare tactics to get the war going!

这些人渣的可笑的游戏。只是更多的恐吓策略来发动战争
          
LOL Deng Feng are more famous for making shitty knock off cars in China. Very apt, as this is a fake weapon. Mind you it's most likely an American invention to sell more missiles to the US taxpayer.

“LOL登峰”更出名,相对于中国制造的“垃圾车”。这很容易,因为这是一种假武器。请注意,这很可能是美国的一项发明,向美国纳税人销售更多的导弹。

Like I said many times, the second Space Race is on. One who controls Space will control the Earth. 
China understands this and working hard (stealing US technologies and doing their own work)
Russia has no science & engineering capabilities since Prostitutin's gang destroyed everything of any value
The USA is controlled by Zio-Banking Mafia. LMT is the US military technology integrator number 1. 20 years ago, LMT CEO Rogers had Ph.D. from Standford in mechanical engineering but now it is a female with major in human relationships and an incompetent black as a head of R&DD. It appears the Sputnik is all over again!

就像我多次说过的,第二次太空竞赛正在进行中。控制太空的人将控制地球。
      中国了解这一点并努力工作(窃取美国的技术和自己的工作)
      俄罗斯没有科学与工程能力,            因为普京的团伙摧毁了任何有价值的东西
      美国由Zio银行黑手党控制。LMT(洛克.马丁)是美国的头号军火商,20年前,LMT首席执行官罗杰斯主要研究机械工程学,但现在是一个靠人际关系上台的,不称职的黑人女性作为负责人。看来人造卫星又重新开始了!
  
BWAHAHA...are you kidding. US can't even get satellites into space without Russia's help.  

BWAHAHA ...你在开玩笑吗?如果没有俄罗斯的帮助,美国甚至不能把卫星送入太空。

Stuff like hover trains or ground effect aircraft were incredibly impressive and I think the Soviets were ahead in some ways. End of the fucking day none of this technology will be applied for commercial use because its a threat to suburbia and the auto industry. Much easier to centrally plan or finance a road network and factory supply chain than face a situation with flying cars, Zepplins or hover craft. Tech means fuck all when engineers only work for bankers and central planners. Go ask the ghost Nikolai Tesla and every other stupid fucking genius who went up against finance and government. 
If you think I am lying look at how much is spent on sex robots and dildos and compare that with how effective the robots are for space exploration and nuclear waste clean up. These projects are white elephants to bilk to tax payer and the investor. 
On the technology front something tells me this probably reversed engineered from the U.S Aurora program. Probably brought over to China via Israel. Only important on a strategic level if a nuclear war breaks out or sued to target aircraft carriers. The billions invested in missile defense only make sense if the pay load is nuclear. Even if they are more advanced now the Chinese would be destroyed by the more numerous American ICBM′s. Their socitey would implode without U.S consumers.
Its a dick waving contest.......

像悬浮火车或地效飞机这样的东西让人印象深刻,我认为苏联在某些方面领先。直到他妈的末日来临,这些技术都不会被用于商业用途,因为它对郊区和汽车工业构成了威胁。相对于面对飞行汽车、Zepplins或悬浮飞机的情况,集中计划或融资建设公路网络和工厂供应链要容易得多。当工程师只为银行家和中央计划者工作时,科技就意味着一切都是fuck 。去问 吸血鬼尼古拉·特斯拉和其他愚蠢的天才,谁反对金融和政府!
如果你认为我在撒谎,那么看看在性爱机器人和假阳具上花了多少钱,然后比较一下机器人在空间探索和核废料清理方面的效果。这些项目是骗纳税人和投资者的“白象”。
在技​​术方面,有些东西告诉我这可能是从美国奥罗拉计划逆转而来的。可能通过以色列带到中国。只有在战略层面上,如果核战争爆发或针对航空母舰的战略被起诉,,这才重要。在导弹防御方面投入的数十亿美元只有在核电荷的情况下才有意义。即使他们现在更先进,中国也会被更多的美国洲际弹道导弹摧毁。没有美国消费者,他们的社会将从内部爆炸。这将是一场Jb挥舞 的比赛。

In reply to BWAHAHA...are you kidding… by ProsperD9
Hypersonic is Mach 5 plus.  Concord was supersonic around Mach 2, usually only over the ocean.
Concord used a turbojet.  SR71 used a turbo-ramjet and could do Mach 3.  The large cone in front of engine acted as a compressor to slow down the air enough, where it didn't cause a compressor stall.  That means the air has to be slowed down to rate of combustion.
When you get up to Mach 5 and higher, then new kinds of engines have to be used, engines that sustain high rates of supersonic combustion.., like a SCRAMJET.
Also, hypersonic vehicle gets hot from air friction, so fuel is used as a coolant.  SCRAMJETS supposedly use Hydrogen fuel, with first one demonstrated by Soviet Union in 1991.
China now has powerful supercomputers capable of doing high speed computational fluid dynamics.  China also has built wind tunnels capable of the high velocities need to do model testing.
So, it is not a dick waving contest.  The Chinese are pretty serious - it is U.S. government and its controlling plutocracy, that are a comedy troupe of morons.
MIC pushed their "defense umbrella" strategy, even though a college freshman physics student could punch holes in logic of defensive strategy.

回复BWAHAHA ...你在开玩笑吗?ProsperD9
高超音速是5马赫。康科特的超音速在2马赫左右,通常只在海洋上空。
康科德用涡轮喷气飞机。SR71使用了涡轮冲压发动机,可以达到3马赫。发动机前部的大锥体充当压缩机,以减缓空气的速度,在那里它没有造成压缩机失速。这意味着空气必须减速到燃烧速率。    
当你达到5马赫或更高时,就必须使用新型发动机,这种发动机可以保持高速超音速燃烧。就像SCRAMJET一样。另外,超音速飞行器由于空气摩擦而变热,因此燃料被用作冷却剂。 SCRAMJETS据说使用氢燃料,1991年首先由苏联展示。中国现在拥有强大的超级计算机,可以进行高速计算流体动力学。中国还建造了能够高速发展的风洞来进行模型试验。
所以,这并不是一场“JB挥舞”的比赛。中国人很严肃,是美国政府及其控制的富豪统治,那是一个傻瓜喜剧剧团。麦克提出了他们的“防御伞”策略,即使一名大一新生物理专业的学生都可能会在防守策略的逻辑上找到漏洞。

A trident missile hits mach 17. They wanted to put a tungsten rod in place of the warhead. It was a no go, because the superpowers said it was to easy to confuse with a nuclear launch. If you notice the article doesn't mention anything about propulsion tech. The chinese are years behind. In short all ICBM's are hypersonic weapons. US is the only one to have succesfully test scramjet tech. If making mach 3 was easy in the 60's I doubt they have much difficulty these days. WTF do you think they do with all that money the pump into the desert.

三叉戟导弹达到17马赫。他们想用一根钨棒代替弹头。这是行不通的,因为超级大国表示,它很容易被“核发射”搞糊涂。如果你注意到这篇文章没有提到推进技术,中国人已经落后很多年了。简而言之,所有洲际弹道导弹都是超音速武器。我们是唯一一个成功测试冲压发动机技术的人,如果在60年代制造马赫3很容易,我怀疑他们现在有很多困难。搞什么你认为他们把所有的钱都用在了沙漠里。

Pretty much everything anyone reads in public is designed to convince everyone they need to be abject slaves to pay 10x to 100x the reasonable cost for everything from the MIC (military industrial complex)

几乎所有在公开场合读到的东西,都是为了让每个人都相信,他们需要成为一群可怜的奴隶,为MIC(军事工业综合体)的所有东西支付10倍到100倍的合理费用,

Here is just one example.  You'll read a gazillion articles per decade about these kinds of long-distance weapons, all designed to justify endless spending to MIC corporations.  However, you'll almost never read that a bunch of submarines (which carry many nuclear missiles each) in international waters (15 miles from coastlines) can wipe out coastal cities in minutes without breaking a sweat.  The only other factoid you need to know is... what percentage of the population and important commercial and military industries (including weapons manufacturers) are near coastlines.  The answer is "well over half".

这里只是一个例子。每十年你都会读到很多关于这种远程武器的文章,这些武器都是为了证明MIC无休止的花费是合理的而设计的。然而,你几乎不会读到,在国际水域(距离海岸线15英里),一个潜艇群(每艘都携带着许多核导弹)可以在几分钟内毫不费力地摧毁沿海城市。
你需要知道的唯一事实是..。有多大比例的人口和重要的商业和军事工业(包括武器制造商)在海岸线旁?答案是超过一半。

Another example.  Any "nuclear state" with substantial nuclear assets and delivery systems will never "give up" or "give in" without going all in.  Meaning... if the "state" is about to fall, or others have launched nukes at them... they will launch all their nukes against whoever is their attacker (and if they don't know who that is, they'll still launch against others they consider enemies).

另一个例子。任何拥有大量核存储和发射系统的“核国家”都不会“放弃”或“让步”,而不需要全部投入。意思……如果“国家”即将倒下,或者其他国家已经向他们发射了核武器。他们将把所有的核武器都发射到攻击者身上(如果他们不知道这是谁,他们仍然会攻击那些他们认为是敌人的人)。

The sad fact is this.  "destruction is inherently vastly more potent than production".  Stated differently, "predator have enormous inherent advantages over producers".  Stated differently, "for practical purposes, it is always much easier and cheaper to destroy than protect... and virtually all expensive weapons can be defeated with vastly cheaper methods.  However, morons who are intent on stealing as much as possible while doing as little productive work as possible (namely corporations in the MIC) are the most self-destructive system of all.

可悲的事实就是这样。“破坏本质上比生产更有效”。换句话说,“掠夺者具有超越生产者的巨大内在优势”。几乎所有昂贵的武器都可以用超级便宜的方法击败。然而,那些想要尽可能多地窃取财富的人,在做尽可能少的生产工作(也就是在MIC的公司里),这是最具自我毁灭的制度。

Missile defense has always been a fraud used to suck money into the MIC pit.  Since the 80s low flying cruise missiles have been impossible to track and stop.
Anybody who understands radar knows low flying objects are impossible to see.  The military has known this since radar was invented 80 years ago.
So patriot/thaad can *possibly* stop a 50s tech scud, but is worthless against 80s tech.

导弹防御一直是用来把钱吸进MIC大坑的一种骗局。由于80年代低空飞行的巡航导弹已经不可能跟踪和阻止。
任何了解雷达的人都知道低空飞行物是不可能看到的。自80年前发明雷达以来,美国军方早就知道这一点。
因此,爱国者/可能会阻止50年代的科技飞毛腿,而对80年代的科技却毫无价值。