三年前,在一次绝望的尝试后,一个就读中国大学的学生克里斯(化名)雇佣了当地的一个中国学生为他写论文。reddit网友:这是一个很不错的开端:对中国学生的论文写作传统和西方实践的讨论(PDF)。这个PDF是对大学汉语水平学术写作的一个回顾,对中国学生的教学和为什么如此教学进行了全面的概述。
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Three years ago in a desperate attempt Chris (pseudonym) who was a student at a Chinese university hired a local Chinese student to write his paper for him.
三年前,在一次绝望的尝试后,一个就读中国大学的学生克里斯(化名)雇佣了当地的一个中国学生为他写论文。
"I don't like cheating in academics and I don't like people using such services either but I just had to use the service that one time" Chris said.
“我不喜欢在学术上作弊,我也不喜欢人们使用这种服务,但我不得不用一次这项服务,”Chris说。
Some foreign students in China cheat during their academic careers. One way they do this is by hiring someone to write their papers. Chris who is now completing a master's degree at one of the most prestigious universities in China is one of them.
一些在中国的外国学生会在他们的学术生涯中作弊。他们作弊的一种方法是雇佣一个人来帮他们写论文。现在在中国某所最负盛名的大学攻读硕士学位的克里斯就是其中一员。
According to Chris' knowledge some of his foreign classmates in China will pay someone or ask their close Chinese friends to write essays for them.
根据克里斯的了解,他在中国的一些外国同学会付钱给别人或者让跟他们关系好的中国朋友为他们写论文。
"Most of them are from science Chinese language or literature majors. Subjects like science are very complicated and students studying language or literature are required to write all of their papers in Chinese which is really challenging for some students" he said.
“他们大多数来自科学、汉语或文学专业。像科学这样的学科是非常复杂的,学习语言或文学的学生被要求用中文写所有的论文,而这对一些学生来说非常有挑战性,”他说。
A necessary choice?
这是一个必要的选择吗?
It was 2014 his third year of studying for his bachelor's degree. He was taking an elective course in Chinese poetry and the students were required to write a 3000-word Chinese essay on Chinese poetry in order to pass the course.
那是2014年,是他攻读学士学位的第三年。他选修了中国诗歌这门课,学生们被要求写一篇3000字的关于中国诗歌的论文,以便通过这门课程。
Chris did not hire someone to write his paper right from the start. He tried to write the paper himself two times but the professor was not satisfied and Chris succumbed to the desperate measure.
克里斯一开始并没有雇人帮他写论文。他试着自己写了两遍,但教授不满意,最后克里斯只能屈服使用了这个权宜之计。
"I chose to hire someone to write my essay because I couldn't write according to what the professor required" Chris said.
“我选择雇人来写我的论文,是因为我写的没法达到教授的要求,”克里斯说。
In the beginning he wrote an essay about the evolution of Chinese poetry and showed it to his Chinese professor for uation and suggestions before the submission deadline. His professor told him that no one likes a paper about evolution and the part pertaining to political history in his essay was irrelevant to the subject.
The professor asked Chris to choose a different subject and write something else.
一开始,他写了一篇关于中国诗歌发展的文章,并在提交截止日期前交给他的中国教授批阅,请教授提出评价和建议。他的教授告诉他,没有人会喜欢一篇关于(诗歌)发展的论文,而且他论文中有关政治历史的部分与这个主题无关。教授让克里斯换一个不同的论文主题,写些其他的东西。
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Chris spent days on a new paper sent it to the professor and the professor said that the new paper still did not fit the requirements.
克里斯花了几天时间写了一篇新论文发给了教授,教授说新论文仍然不符合要求。
"I had already spent weeks on those papers and it was the end of the semester. I had all my other essays to write and exams to prepare for so I did not want to spend any more time on this elective course" Chris said.
克里斯说“我已经花了好几个星期写那些论文了,而那已经是这个学期的末尾了。我还有其他的论文要写,有考试要准备,所以我不想在这门选修课上花更多的时间。”
"It was my last resort at that point because I didn't want to lose any credits or retake that course; I was desperately looking for solutions" he said.
他说:“这是我当时最后的选择,因为我不想失去学分或重修那门课;我当时拼命寻找解决办法。”
Then he talked to some of his friends about the problem he was facing and one of his friends suggested that he should hire someone to write the essay.
然后他和他的一些朋友谈论他所面临的问题,其中一个朋友建议他应该雇一个人来写这篇文章。
"According to my friend it doesn't cost as much as the money I would have to spend if I fail the class and have to pay to retake it" he said.
他说:“根据我朋友的说法,如果我没通过这门课的话,雇人帮我写论文的费用比因挂科重修这门课的费用要少。”
"At last I asked for details of a girl who writes papers for money. I contacted her and sent over my professor's requirements" Chris said. "It only cost 600 yuan ($90)."
"最后,我询问了一个拿钱替人写论文的女孩的具体信息。我联系了她,把教授的要求发给了她。“克里斯说,“这只花了我600元(90美元)。”
"I was worried about getting caught but in that moment I didn't have any other choice" he said.
“我很担心被人发现(我在作弊),但在那一刻,我别无选择,”他说。
Luckily for Chris he did not get caught and he got a B plus in that course.
幸运的是,克里斯没有被逮到作弊,那门选修课他得了B+。
Cathy (pseudonym) from Russia who is studying for her bachelor's degree at a university in Shanghai also said foreign students like her all know that you can pay people or ask Chinese friends to write your papers for you or translate your papers from English to Chinese.
来自俄罗斯、目前在上海一所大学攻读学士学位的凯茜(化名)也这么说过,像她这样的外国学生都知道,你可以付钱给别人,或者请中国朋友帮你写论文或者是帮你把论文从英文翻译成中文。
"I plan to hire someone to write my paper or I will at least write the paper in English first and hire someone to translate that into Chinese" she said.
她说:“我打算雇个人来替我写论文,或者至少说先用英文写论文,然后再雇个人把论文翻译成中文。”
"Maybe if your Chinese is really good you can write it by yourself or translate by yourself but that's not the case for many students" Cathy said.
凯茜说:“如果你的中文真的很好,也许你可以自己写或者自己翻译,但很多(外国)学生做不到这样。”
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An agent who provides the service
提供服务的代理人
Trying to get more information on the industry Metropolitan talked to a Russian who works for an agency that provides such services for foreign students in China.
为了获得更多有关该行业的信息,大都会与在中国一家为外国学生提供此类服务的代理机构里工作的俄罗斯人进行了交谈。
A Russian man who goes by the name Alex that graduated from a Chinese university is responsible for promoting the paper-writing service and communicating with foreign customers.
毕业于某所中国大学一位名叫亚历克斯(Alex)的俄罗斯男子,他负责推广论文写作服务,并与外国客户进行交流。
After he communicates with the customer he assigns the Chinese "teachers" in his agency with the writing task.
在与客户沟通后,他会在他的代理机构中给中国的“老师们”分配写作任务。
After seeing his advertisement about the services he provides in a WeChat group a reporter from Metropolitan went undercover as a Swedish student in China and contacted Alex.
在看到他在微信群里发的服务广告后,大都会的一名记者以在中国的瑞典学生的卧底身份联系了亚历克斯。
The reporter made up a subject for the thesis that she wanted written - "The Influence of Lu Xun on Chinese Contemporary Literature" and said that the word count was 5000 and that she needs it in one week.
记者编了个论文题目——《鲁迅对中国当代文学的影响》。并说这篇论文的字数要求是5000字,且她一周内就要拿到这篇论文。
"The price depends on the different thesis subjects" Alex replied. For this subject the fees are 300 yuan per 1000 words and your thesis will cost 1500 yuan."
“价格取决于不同的论文主题,”亚历克斯回复记者。这个主题的收费是每1000字300元,你的论文要1500元。“
"You pay half first and the other half after it is finished" he said on WeChat.
他在微信上说:“你先付一半(做定金),论文完成后再付剩下的一半费用。”
"The paper you want normally takes 2-3 weeks so we will charge an extra 500 yuan for rush fees" Alex said.
“你想要的这类论文通常需要2-3周才能完成,所以我们会额外收取500元的加急费用,”亚历克斯说。
The reporter expressed her doubts about whether they could handle a 5000-word paper.
记者对他们能否完成一篇5000字的论文表示怀疑。
"Your paper is nothing; we are writing papers that are 10000 to 40000 characters" he replied.
“你的论文根本是小意思,我们正在写的都是1万到4万个字的论文,”他回答说。
If what he said is true then that means that foreign students who are completing their master's degrees or even doctorate degrees in China are using such services.
如果他说的是真的,那么这就意味着在中国完成硕士学位、甚至博士学位的外国学生有在使用这类服务。
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"I can't tell you how many customers we have received but it's a lot of students and you can relax; all of the students we have helped passed" Alex said.
“我不能告诉你我们有多少客户,但(我们接手过)很多学生,所以你大可放心;我们帮助过的所有学生都通过课程了。”Alex说。
"We have customers from the Renmin University of China Peking University and Tsinghua University all good universities."
“我们有来自中国人民大学、北京大学和清华大学等各种优秀大学的客户。”
The conversation with the agent ended there because the reporter told the agent that she needed more time to think about it.
与代理人的谈话到此便结束了,因为记者告诉代理人她需要更多的时间来考虑一下。
Eager to close the deal Alex contacted the reporter the next day to see if she still wanted to hire the agency to write the paper and he even sent a screenshot of his WeChat page that showed a girl transferring him 600 yuan for the service.
为了达成这笔交易,亚利克斯第二天联系了记者,看她是否还想聘请代理来写论文。他甚至还发了一张他微信页面的截图,显示一个女孩为这项服务给他转了600元。
"It's a long-existing industry in every part of the world. There is demand and there is supply" Chris said.
克里斯说:“这是一个长期存在于世界各地的行业。有需求,也就有供应。“
Although Chris used the service he does not promote using it.
"I don't think it's an honorable thing. You are a student; this is your essay and you have to write it" Chris said.
虽然克里斯使用过这类服务,但他并不提倡大家使用它。“我不认为这是件光荣的事。你是个学生;这是你的论文,你必须自己完成它,”克里斯说。
Since then Chris said that he has not hired anyone else to write his papers. Other than that he has written all of his own papers including his graduation thesis that was over 10000 characters.
从那以后,克里斯说他再没有雇人替他写论文。除此之外,他所有的论文都是自己写的,其中包括他那篇超过1万字的毕业论文。
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–]Peace-Walker 8 指标 2 天前
So ghostwriting is universal hah
所以代笔是全球普遍现象,哈哈。
[–]Longlius 3 指标 2 天前
Ohohoho the tables have been turned.
(Seriously though write your own fucking papers lowlifes of all races and nationalities)
哦哦哦,局势已经被逆转咯。(不过说真的,自己的论文自己写去,使用这种服务的是卑劣的人,不管你是什么种族来自哪个国家。)
[–]DylanLeviKing 6 指标 2 天前
“In the beginning he wrote an essay about the evolution of Chinese poetry and showed it to his Chinese professor for uation and suggestions before the submission deadline. His professor told him that no one likes a paper about evolution and the part pertaining to political history in his essay was irrelevant to the subject.”
In China an essay like this is approached completely differently. The Western style is to start with an original thesis and move downwards drawing in and analyzing ideas to support the thesis; in a Chinese essay you begin with some general empirically true idea about something and then build the essay from there. That's not totally a negative characterization of the form but... it's different. The Chinese essay is sort of a hybrid of earlier forms of Chinese writing (read about the mighty eight-legged essay) and the Western-style academic essay.
“一开始,他写了一篇关于中国诗歌发展的文章,并在提交截止日期前交给他的中国教授批阅,请教授提出评价和建议。他的教授告诉他,没有人会喜欢一篇关于(诗歌)发展的论文,而且他论文中有关政治历史的部分与这个主题无关。“
在中国,写出一篇这样的论文采用的是完全不同的方法。西方的风格是从一个原创的论点开始,接着,吸取和分析观点来支持论文;在中国的一篇文章中,你从一些综合的、经验性的东西开始,然后从这之上建立文章。这种写作描述方式并不是说是负面不好的,但是...它是不同的。中国的文章是早期中国文学形式(比如八股文)和西方学术文章的混合体。
When it comes to a topic like Chinese poetry I'm sure the Chinese professor was not looking for originality or analysis—more like a demonstration of familiarity with the topic and theories about it and an ability to draw them into a harmonious whole.
当谈到像中国诗歌这样的主题时,我相信这位中国教授并不是在寻找原创性或者分析性的东西——更像是对这个话题和理论的熟悉程度和把它们融和成一体的能力。
[–]Janbiya 1 指标 2 天前
Interesting take on modern Chinese essay style it nicely explains all the front-loaded "as we all know"s that we see all the time from Chinese writers.
Do you know of any other articles that go into this subject?
对现代中国论文写作风格的有趣呈现,这很好地解释了我们常看见的中国作家前言里写的那些个”我们都知道(的是)“。你知道有关这个问题的其他文章吗?
[–]DylanLeviKing 1 指标 1 天前
This is a good start: A discussion of Chinese students' essay writing traditions and Western praxis (PDF). This (PDF) is a review of university-level Chinese-language books on academic writing that gives a good overview of what Chinese students are taught and why.
这是一个很不错的开端:对中国学生的论文写作传统和西方实践的讨论(PDF)。这个PDF是对大学汉语水平学术写作的一个回顾,对中国学生的教学和为什么如此教学进行了全面的概述。
[–]Psy_Doc_ -1 指标 2 天前
In short the Chinese academic environment is not conducive for the creation of new novel ideas.
总之,中国的学术环境不利于新颖创意的诞生。
[–]DylanLeviKing 1 指标 2 天前
There are other reasons for that I think that play more of a role than undergraduate essay requirements but it doesn't help.
我认为还有其他原因,那原因比本科生论文要求发挥着更多的作用,但这没什么用。
[–]mbx94 4 指标 2 天前
Chinese hire Chinese and foreigners to write their assignments and graduation thesis .
中国人雇用中国人和外国人替他们写作业和毕业论文。
[–]mbx94 0 指标 2 天前
The number of foreign students who use this service doesn’t worth making it a big news they should talk about how many Chinese students graduated from local and foreign universities by using such services go to English uni and use people nearby it’s full of such services particularly for Chinese !
使用这项服务的外国学生数量不值得成为一个大消息,他们应该谈论有多少中国学生通过使用这些服务从本地和外国大学毕业,去英国大学问问附近的人,到处都是这样的服务,特别是对于中国人!
[–]DullTown 1 指标 2 天前
I think this is just a kind of retaliation against the accusations of Chinese students using ghostwriters.
Good money to be made doing that.
我认为这只是对指责中国学生使用代笔的报复。
用钱就可以做到这一点。
[–]Janbiya 0 指标 2 天前
I'm glad we have the Global Times to tell us that foreign students studying in China are a uniquely despicable breed with no integrity and less Chinese language skill.
我很高兴《环球时报》告诉我们,在中国留学的外国学生是一个独特的卑劣品种,不诚信,中文水平也不高。
我们致力于传递世界各地老百姓最真实、最直接、最详尽的对中国的看法
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