中国足球,你怎么看? [美国媒体]

quora网友:这样搞,除了让足球收入增加,除了让中超变得国际化,对中国足球没有任何的帮助。你们看过日本队吗?韩国队?伊朗队?澳大利亚队?即使是沙特阿拉伯队?或者叙利亚对?他们的联赛预算都非常少。跟中国比起来,他们的俱乐部实力都很弱。然而,一旦有国际赛事,他们的足球系统都能为国家队效力.......

What do you think of Chinese football?

中国足球,你怎么看?



Paul Yih Sr., Creator of CBI -- China BrazilInstitute
Answered Nov 18,2015
I am from Brazil and I have beenboth a college soccer player, a semi pro player here in the US and over theyears -- I have been asked by Chinese to be of assistance of their footballprograms.  But I have found that football, or soccer in China has a greatdeal of glitch and extremely problematic -- Maybe early on, they have learnedthat from HK or any other group -- where many have used this sport to gambleand what not .
Yes, China for the moment doesnot have any comprehensive programs and to find ways to improve their performances– With all that is being said - the only hope is to develop good and solidyouth soccer and I hope this is that one way that maybe, just maybe that theyouth can find way to eradicate the old "wrongs".  That is justa hope.
On the other hand, the otherobstacle is that the limitation of space --but as of late, in how the US youthhad now grabbing on the smaller five men team soccer/football, in Brazil, wecalled it "futebol de Salon", subsequently, I guess it is now calledin the Anglo world -- Futsal ?
This will be good for moreChinese to use the Basket court to develop more of this five men team , with aball that is less bouncy -- and this will improve the dribbling skills of manyplayers -- as I can see the development and the expansion of FUTSAL can amplifymore of the players in China and the rest is just hopes and wishes thecorruption of this sport will not be permanent to hinter this sport's progressin China.

答者:巴西人,美国威斯康星大学毕业。
我是巴西人。
多年来,中国人一直都有邀请我参加他们的足球比赛。我既是一名大学生运动员,也是一名半职业足球运动员。我发现中国的足球存在着很多的问题,而且有些问题非常棘手。可能早些年时候,他们从香港或其他地方学到--用足球这项运动来进行赌博,而不是真正地去发展足球运动。

目前的中国,还没有任何全面的方案或办法,去提高他们的比赛表现。尽管如此,我觉得唯一的希望,就是健康发展青少年足球,夯实足球运动的基础。也许只有年轻人,才能彻底根除中国人对足球运动的“错误玩法”,当然这是个希望。

另一方面,其他阻碍就是空间的限制。但是中国可以学习美国和巴西。晚些时候,美国的青少年会组成5人小队去踢足球,巴西也差不多,我们那叫“足球沙龙”,英国人可能是叫“五人制足球”。

这非常适合中国人,可以用篮球场来发展更多的五人足球小队,这是非常有益的。踢球的时候使用那种弹性低的足球,也会提高很多球员的运动技能。五人制足球的流行的话,就能看到足球运动的发展,也可以壮大中国足球运动员的队伍。其他的希望、或者说是愿望,那就是希望中国足球的腐败,不会永远地阻碍中国足球运动的发展。

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Fernando Dorarinho, studied at China
Answered Feb 21,2017
Sorry man, but be honest, CSL and their football teams are twodifferent phrases
The Chinese Super League can buy thousand of superstars fortheir clubs. Yup. They can invest for new and bigger stadiums. Their clubsconstantly turn entire of world’s football to chaos for their money power. Theyare so powerful
With thousand Chinese millionaires…
But, for their national teams? Nothing but shock anddisappointment
They have no basic youth ground and they don't care to investfor them. This makes China weak times by times. See the tragedy of 2014, or how they were lucky at 2018 qualifying, it is clear, China cannot win if they don'tunderstand what are they investing for
That's it

答者:巴西人,业余足球运动员。
对不起啦,老兄。但我还得说实话。
中超联赛和他们的国家队,完全是两个不同的品种。中超联赛,每个俱乐部都可以买来很多超级明星。对。他们可以投资建设新的、更大的体育馆。他们的足球俱乐部不断地利用财力,把整个世界的足坛搞得乱糟糟的。中国也有成千上万的富翁,他们的财力真的很强大。

但是,至于他们的国家队?只有震惊和失望。他们没有青少年足球运动的基础,也不进行相关的投资,好像他们完全不在乎这点。这就使得中国足球一代比一代弱。看看2014年的悲剧吧,或者去看2018年的排位赛,他们是如何“幸运的”挂掉。很显然,如果他们不知道钱该花在哪儿的话,中国就永远不会赢。
以上。

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Matt Pollard
Answered Jan 8,2017
I think in about 10/15 years it's gonna be one of the bestleagues in the world, with very few actual Chinese players due to the amount ofmoney. It's like psg or rb leibzig just on a league scale, terrible but canattract players who just want money. Admittedly not psg now but still

答者:英国人。
我认为,大约在2010年到2015年的时间里,中超联赛里虽然中国球员很少,但因为钱的关系,它那时可能是世界上最好的联赛之一了。在规模上,它大概跟法甲和德甲的规模差不多,虽然很烂,但是可以吸引到那些想赚钱的球员。当然,现在比不上法甲了,但还可以吸引到球员的。

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Jacques Văn Khải,studied Football & Fédération Internationale de Football Association
Answered Feb 22,2017
A kind of… which is funded by the rich, the Government, the CFA,and still full of corruption.
I have been a supporter of Team China and their CSL (ChineseSuper League), not because I am just a silly Vietnamese who “pretend to be inlove”, but rather, it came from the soul of a person whose its blood, is fromthere.
But be honest?
You can have million superstars come to China. You can easilymanage a stunning Super League. You can, even say, the great era of Chinesefootball domination, is coming.
Yes, yes. It is exactly what they are looking for. Even Chinesefootball clubs now are nothing but huge giants which every other smaller teamsfrom Japan to Australia feel scared.
However…
It helps nothing for Chinese football except the expansion oftheir richness and the CSL becomes an international destination. Have youlooked on Japan? South Korea? Iran? Australia? Even Saudi Arabia? Or Syria?They all have smaller in league budgets. They all have weaker club teams tocompare with China’s ones. Yet, their football systems mostly serve fornational teams in term to play any international tournaments.
It explains why the CSL is so powerful, the Team China, stillsucks in international game. Even a team who just joined the AFC over 10 yearsago like Australia also took the AFC Asian Cup trophy and play World Cupfrequently, something China has only got 25% success.
Chinese football is serving just like for those bureaucrats whohave no experience on football. They don’t work by honest, they work by theirown goods. You know Xi Jinping is a proud football fan. Yet, you used his lovefor your dirty works. No wonder why team China today is facing a totalelimination at the 2018 World Cup qualification. Not even say, Vietnam hasrisen to compete China in youth stage.
India is reforming and they will soon return to football worldwith a status of rising power. The Philippines to Kyrgyzstan are indeed, becomerising powers as well. Hong Kong is gonna come back soon. Thailand is now samelevel with China, and they are heading to Iran’s level. Meanwhile China stillstuck with CSL fits only. You have no clear strategy. This kills Chinesefootball.
That’s it. We all feel disappointed. Total mess. Sorry, but thetruth is the truth. No change, the more fallen China is


答者:越南人。
中国足球,类似于一种由富人、政府、足协和腐败组成的结合体。我是中国队和中超联赛的支持者。不是因为我是个越南人,就傻傻地假装去爱中国足球,而是因为我的灵魂和血脉来自那片土地。
要说实话吗?



你们可以请很多的超级足球明星来中国踢球,你们也可以轻松打造一个惊人的超级联赛,你们也可以甚至说,中国足球称霸的伟大时代即将到来。是,是的。这确实是中国人在追求的。甚至中国的足球俱乐部,是让日澳的小球队感到害怕的庞然大物。
然而。。。。。。



这样搞,除了让足球收入增加,除了让中超变得国际化,对中国足球没有任何的帮助。你们看过日本队吗?韩国队?伊朗队?澳大利亚队?即使是沙特阿拉伯队?或者叙利亚对?他们的联赛预算都非常少。跟中国比起来,他们的俱乐部实力都很弱。然而,一旦有国际赛事,他们的足球系统都能为国家队效力。

这就解释了为什么中超联赛如此强大,但是中国队在国际比赛中还是一直扑街。甚至像澳大利亚队这样,十几年前刚刚加入亚足联的球队,都经常地拿到亚洲杯冠军,而中国呢,成功率可能只有25%。

中国足球是为那些没有任何比赛经验的官僚服务的。他们不是靠诚信踢球,他们是为利益踢球。你们都知道,习大大是个足球迷。然而,你们却利用他的喜好,来替你们那肮脏的利益服务。这也就难怪今天的中国队,在2018年世界杯资格赛上面临彻底的淘汰。甚至可以说,越南的青年足球运动水平已经追上中国了。

印度正在改革,他们很快就会在世界足坛上不断崛起。菲律宾和吉尔吉斯斯坦,他们的足球地位,已经崛起了。香港也会归来。泰国现在与中国的水平差不多,也正在迈向伊朗的水平。然而中国只能在中超联赛里自娱自乐。你们没有明确的策略,这样会害死中国足球的。

就说这些。对中国足球,我们都感到失望,总之是一塌糊涂。
说这些不好听的话,对不起啦,但事实就是事实。不改变,中国足球只会越来越堕落。

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Alejandro Peralta, studied at Football
Answered Oct 26, 2016
Their football clubs and the CSL is very impressive but it doesgive minimal impacts of Team China
Currently, Chinese clubs are rich, having much abilities
But its national teams seem to be a disaster

答者:美国人。
他们的足球俱乐部和中超联赛,令人印象深刻。但这对中国国家队的影响微乎其微。目前,中国足球俱乐部很有钱,能力也很强。但是他们的国家队,简直就是一场灾难啊!

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Leo Feng, Product Manager
Answered Feb 1,2015
Total mess.

答者:中国人。
一塌糊涂。

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Greg Blandino,works at Beijing, China
Answered Nov 19,2015
Watching the national team is a recipe for depression. Lastnight I could have gone to any sports bar in Beijing and offered 快速安乐死服务 and made a fortune. However
......国安牛逼! 你跟丫死磕, 你来我们主场BB干什么,滚!哈哈。
The CSL is all right. I'll admit I wasn't a big fan of soccerbefore I came, and am thus a shameless bandwagon fan. However, if you're inBeijing, I recommend you try and watch a game. The fans are great, their ismuch less drunkenness and brawling compared to a European game, and theatmosphere is excellent.  No xenophobia or racism at all. Beijing's got agood rivalry with Guangzhou, and less of one withTianjin and Shanghai..
Though soccer throughout China faces accusations of being"black" (corrupt), the CSL seems to not let that affect play qualityas much as the national team. Europeans have told me the quality of play isn'tas good as European leagues, but to be honest, those are the best in the world.
As for the HK-China match this question is referring to, I'llleave the psychotic, dysfunctional East Asian politics to the East Asians.

答者:中国人。
看国家队的比赛,你能得抑郁症。
比赛结束的晚上,我要是去北京的任何体育酒吧的话,提供快速安乐死服务,我都能发财。
然而,国安牛逼! 你跟丫死磕, 你来我们主场BB干什么,滚!哈哈。



中超联赛还过得去。我承认我不是足球的超级粉,但我是一个无耻的流氓球迷。如果你在北京,我建议你可以试着看场球。球迷都很好,跟欧洲的球迷比起来,他们很少酗酒或者斗殴,而且现场气氛非常好。仇外心理或种族主义根本就不存在。北京队和广州队踢得比较精彩,和天津队、上海队的比赛稍次一点。

 

虽然中国足球面临着“黑哨”(腐败)的指责,但中超联赛的水平似乎没有被国家队带歪。欧洲人曾告诉我,中超联赛的水平比不上欧洲联赛,但说实话,我觉得这两个都是世界上最棒的。至于问题中提到的中港两地的足球比赛,还是让我们这些精神错乱的东亚人自己来解决吧!