尼泊尔是否应该加入中国? [美国媒体]

现在中国是世界上最大的货物进出口国。(PS:现在[2015年]美国是最大的货物进出口国 )它正在迅速成长,极有可能成为世界上的下一个超级大国。与此同时,罪犯、恐怖分子和腐败的政治家们成功地将曾经一度和平、繁荣的尼泊尔摧毁成了世界上最贫穷落后的国家之一。

Should Nepal join China?

尼泊尔是否应该加入中国?



China is now the largest importer and exporter of goods in the world. It is rapidly growing and most likely to become the world's next super-power. At the same time criminals, terrorists and corrupt politicians have successfully managed to ruin Nepal from a once peaceful prosperous nation to one of the most backward and poorest nation in the world. While the so-called 'oppressed' Tibetans can now afford to visit Western nations and are getting free electricity, education and health services, citizens of the so-called 'independent' nation Nepal like me are having to live in 12 hours of load-shedding. So, would be in the best interest for Nepalese people to join China by rather negotiating the terms of and condition of accession.

现在中国是世界上最大的货物进出口国。(PS:现在[2015年]美国是最大的货物进出口国 )它正在迅速成长,极有可能成为世界上的下一个超级大国。与此同时,罪犯、恐怖分子和腐败的政治家们成功地将曾经一度和平、繁荣的尼泊尔摧毁成了世界上最贫穷落后的国家之一。而那些所谓“受压迫”的藏人现在有钱去西方国家旅游,获得了免费的电力、教育和医疗服务,可作为所谓的“独立”国家尼泊尔的公民比如我,必须生活在12小时的用电限制中。因此、对尼泊尔人民来说,通过谈判某些协议加入中国会不会是最有利的。



Anonymous(匿名)
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First answer this, "Will they end loadshedding?" If yes, then for sure Nepal can negotiate some sort of agreement for accession. 
If Nepalese can live anything like Tibetans, then I see no reason why Nepal shouldn't join China.

先回答“他们能结束用电限制吗?”如果是的话,那么尼泊尔当然可以去谈判达成某些协议。
如果尼泊尔人能接受藏人那样的生活,那么我找不到什么尼泊尔不能加入中国的理由。
Written Jan 29, 2014 • View Upvotes
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Manish Gupta, Visca el Barca
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Say, You are a family of four members consisting of your father, mother, sister and you. Your family is a happy family. Your home is a small one and not well furnished but it is fine as it is a very beautiful house with only 4 person.

比如说,你有一个由你父亲、母亲、姐姐和你组成的四口之家。你的家庭是一个幸福的家庭。你的家很小,也没没什么好家具,但是它很好,因为它有一个非常漂亮的房子,并且只有4个人。        

But unfortunately, your family is a little poor because your parents earn money mostly from farming and there is not enough cultivable land available.

但不幸的是,你的家庭有点穷,因为你的父母靠耕作挣钱,可他们没有足够的耕地可用。

But still you love your home because :-

但你仍然爱着你的家,因为:—

Your home is located in a beautiful surrounding which has many of the tallest mountains in the whole world including the Mt. Everest(The highest peak).

你家的周围环境优美,被许多世界上最高的山脉环抱,包括世界最高峰珠穆朗玛峰。

Your home has unlimited water supply as there are numerous water resources available for you.

你家的水无限供应,因为有许多水资源可供你使用。

Your family has its own culture and tradition. Many of your neighbors keep visiting you as your home is very decorated and looks very beautiful.

你家有自己的文化和传统。你的许多邻居经常来你家拜访,因为你家非常精美、漂亮。

Your home's surrounding is rich in natural resources and has a rich bio-diversity.

你家的周围有丰富的自然资源,以及丰富的生物多样性。

Now, suppose their is an other family across mountains. They have a very huge house, fully furnished, a modern one in fact. 
The size of their home is 65 times larger than your home and their family has a size 50 times larger than your family size. That means they have a family consisting of almost 200 person.

现在,假设山的后面有另一个家庭。他们有一个非常大的现代化的房子,家具完善。
他们家的面积比你家大65倍,他们家的家庭规模比你的大50倍。这意味着他们有一个由近200人组成的大家庭。

Would you like to merge your family and home with theirs, keeping in mind the following points?

在记下以下几点后,你还想和他们家合并吗?

They speak different language, follow different religion with traditional and cultural difference, are of different race, have different mindset, eat different kind of food, e.t.c.
They are hated by many other powerful families and may be attacked by one of them in future. They are also powerful people having arrogance and stubbornness.
Your family can stay in their house but their huge family of 200 members will share your home too. They will share your water resources, share your beautiful land to serve their purpose, can claim your mountains and might discriminate you on your race as they are stronger than you. They might take you and your home for granted.
There is also a possibility of some positive changes like they might modernize your home, furnish it well, provide you electricity 24*7, provide your family members employment, health services and other care in a better way.

他们说着不同的语言,遵循不同的宗教传统并且文化也有差异,种族不同,观念不同,吃不同的食物等等。
他们被许多其他有权势的家庭所憎恨,并可能在将来被他们中的一个攻击。而他们也是强大、傲慢且固执的。
你的家庭可以留在他们的房子里,但他们200名成员的庞大家庭也会分享你的房子。他们将分享你的水资源,分享你美丽的土地以服务于他们的目的,可能索要你的山,并歧视你的种族因为他们比你强。他们可能会把使用你和你的家视为理所当然。
也可能会有一些积极的变化,比如他们可以使你家现代化,家具完善,提供给你 7*24 小时供电,提供就业、医疗保健服务和其他更好的福利给你的家庭成员。

If i were you, my answer would be 'No'.

如果我是你,我的回答是“不”。

Now, think of your small beautiful home as Nepal and the huge modern home across mountains as China.

现在,想想你小而美丽的家尼泊尔和巨大的现代化的家中国。

Yes, Nepal is a proud and an independent country which has its own culture and tradition. We are the second richest country in the world in terms of water resources after Brazil. we have Mt. Everest. We are a beautiful country and happy with what we have. However, we are poor and still a developing nation. We are backward and not so strong economically. 

是的,尼泊尔是一个自豪的独立的国家,有自己的文化和传统。我们是在巴西之后世界上水资源第二丰富的国家。我们有珠穆朗玛峰。我们是一个美丽的国家,并且我们因我们所拥有的而快乐。然而,我们贫穷,仍是一个发展中国家。我们落后、没有强大的经济。

We have been facing some challenging problems like unemployment, load shedding, poverty, corruption e.t.c. for quite a long time. But, we are hopeful that we will solve all those problems on our own or with a little help form our neighbors. But, handing over our country to other nation (China) ? Hell No !! As you would never hand over your home to your neighbors for modernization, You would never even think of handing over your motherland to other peoples.

在相当长的一段时间里我们一直面临着一些挑战性的问题,如失业、断电、贫困、腐败等等。但我们希望能自己能解决所有这些问题,也可以向邻居寻求一点帮助。但是,把我们的国家交给其他国家(中国)?绝不!就像你永远不会把你家交给邻居去现代化,你也不会想把你的祖国交给其他人。

Nepal is lagging behind only because of its corrupt politicians and not any other reason.

尼泊尔之所以落后,就是因为其腐败的政客,没有任何其他原因。

Though this will never happen but if Nepal merges with China, These things will happen  -:

虽然这将永远不会发生,但如果尼泊尔与中国合并,这些事情将发生—:

Lose its identity globally(Nepal won't exist).
Lose its good relation with India, free border between India and Nepal would be recorded in the history books.
Increase in border between China and India and that will probably disturb the peace in lower regions of Nepal. China will use the extra Nepal border area to create pressure on India or attack them.

失去它的全球身份(尼泊尔将不存在)。
失去与印度的良好关系,印度和尼泊尔之间的自由边界将被记录在历史书中。
增加了中国和印度之间的边境线,这可能会扰乱尼泊尔低地地区的和平。中国将使用尼泊尔边境地区来给印度制造压力或者攻击他们。

As a citizen of Nepal, I'd never want my country to join China. Neither, any of the nepalese would want that. We are a proud country because we were never ever ruled by any other country.

作为一名尼泊尔公民,我不想让我的国家加入中国,不论有多少尼泊尔人希望那样。我们是一个值得骄傲的国家,因为我们从未被其他国家统治过。

As of Economical growth, We are a developing nation and we will develop our country on our own.

关于经济增长,我们是一个发展中国家,我们将自己来建设自己的国家。
Written Jan 20 • View Upvotes
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Tilak Paudel, student in nepal
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I am a proud Nepali and each and every Nepalese should be proud of their country,origin and their ancestos.Coming to the question,how  can a sovereign country in this era or any time can simply become part of another country?Nepal is a developing country and its our duty to make it a developed one.We cannot give up on our country  and our ancestors'  blood.

我是一个自豪的尼泊尔并且每个尼泊尔人都应该为自己的起源、祖先和祖国感到自豪。回到这个问题,在这个时代或其他任何时间如何能让一个主权国家简单地成为另一个国家的一部分?尼泊尔是一个发展中国家,而我们有责任使它成为发达国家。我们不能放弃我们的国家和我们祖先的血液。
Written Sep 14 • View Upvotes
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Anonymous(匿名)
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Should or not depends on whose perspective you're asking for. 

应不应该并不取决于你的观点和要求。

To Nepal, it would be good for development, modernization, and trade. However, it would not be any good for China. 

对尼泊尔来说,它将获得良好的发展,现代化和贸易。然而,这对中国来说没有任何好处。

If Nepal joined China, some of the wealth of the rich coastal cities will allocate to Nepal. Furthermore, with the buffer zone between India and China gone, tension between us will arise and cost both sides more money.

如果尼泊尔加入中国,一些富裕的沿海城市的财富将被分配给尼泊尔。此外,因为在印度和中国之间的缓冲区消失了,我们之间的紧张局势将会升级并且双方都要花费更多的钱。
Written Jun 9 • View Upvotes
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Anonymous(匿名)
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yes!  I would be ready join any nation where education for its citizen is free and where there are no power cuts.. 
China is now richer than USA. There is no point in keeping ourselves and our nation poor while our neighbor to the north is racing ahead in terms of development. Fuck this hollow patriotism and nationalism shit. 
But I have only one question, 'Why would China let Nepal join China?'

是的!我愿意加入任何一个能给公民提供免费教育且不断电的国家。
中国现在比美国还富有。在我们的北方邻国在前头高速发展的同时,保持我们贫穷的国家和自身毫无意义。草泥马空洞的爱国主义和民族主义垃圾。
但我只有一个问题,“为什么中国要让尼泊尔加入中国呢?”

Written Feb 1, 2014 • View Upvotes
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Tyler Hope
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I would be for it but only if Nepal is run like Taiwan or Hong Kong with it's own sovereignty. I would be afraid of Chinese influx though. Ether way i don't want Nepal to end up like the annexed Sikkim or Manipur where things are not nice at all.

我会同意这样,但只有是在尼泊尔像台湾或香港那样拥有高度自主权的情况下。我害怕中国人大量涌入。不希望尼泊尔落得像被吞并的锡金、曼尼普尔邦那样,那里完全不好。

some one said something today that really struck me and made me rethink this, No we should not join any country, we should keep friendly relations. However we should never lose our countries sovereignty, it would be an insult to all our ancestors that died to create Nepal.

今天一些人说的一些话触动了我让我重新思考了这个问题。不,我们不应该加入任何国家,我们应该与它们保持友好关系。但我们不应该失去我们的国家主权,这将是对所有为建立尼泊尔而牺牲的先人的侮辱。
Updated May 10, 2014 • View Upvotes
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Abhishek Vissapragada,(印度人) Views are personal. Upvotes are not necessarily endorsements.
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No Nepal should not join China. There are many reasons for it:
1. China doesn't conduct free elections. Although Nepal has a corrupt political system which some have criticised against, it can still be fixed if the people of Nepal themselves take interest in joining and cleaning this system.
2. Coming to the problem of being a backward and poor nation, China also has varied economic development wherein it varies vastly from region to region. Would Nepal also like the same to happen to its country wherein some citizens enjoy a luxurious life while others don't even get the basic?
3. Its not like China doesn't have any terrorists in its country. It is also facing that problem. 
4. When it comes to representation, China is no good in it. China believes in one race dominationa dn will go to any extent to fulfill that goal. Even if it means exterminating the local race in a quite and subtle manner. Also the recent Hong Kong crisis should have shown you how lowly people of a particular region can be represented.
5. If you say that Nepal is a peace loving country, how can you expect to remain in peace after acceding with China? Look at the tensions it has with India, Japan and USA over the borders and the South China Sea!

不,尼泊尔不应该加入中国。有很多原因:
1.中国没有自由选举。虽然尼泊尔有一个被人们批评的腐败政治系统,但如果尼泊尔人民都乐意加入并清理这个系统,它仍然是可以被修正。
2.回到国家贫穷落后的问题,中国各地经济发展的也很不平衡。尼泊尔也希望自己国家在有些公民享受奢华的生活的同时其他人却连基础保障都没有?
3.中国并非没有任何恐怖分子的国家。它也面临着这个问题。
4.中国并不像你描述的那么好。中国认为要不择手段地实现种民族控制目标。即使这意味着以微妙的方式消灭当地种族。最近香港的危机也向你展示了特定地区的底层人民是怎么被代表的。
5.如果你说尼泊尔是一个爱好和平的国家,你如何能保证在加入中国后仍保持和平?看看它和印度、日本、美国的紧张关系以及在南中国海!

While Nepal surely deserves better political system, it can only get it if the people of Nepal rise up and give power to itself and identify methods with which it can drive its economy like tourism, curbing human trafficking, proper use of natural resources, promoting its local culture and innovating business using this local culture, etc.

虽然尼泊尔确实理应得到更好的政治体系,但它只能通过尼泊尔人民的崛起并赋予自己权力,确定可以推动其经济如旅游业,遏制人口贩运,合理利用自然资源,使用本土文化促进当地文化和创新业务等等的方法,才能得到。
Written Jun 24 • View Upvotes • Asked to answer by Kushal Raj Sharma
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Prateek Singh,(印度人) Fascinaion for reading and writing.
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Not at all...Why you think Nepal should do this...It won't be good for Nepal as well..Nepal is still struggling for its constitution..if they join china they will will be governed by the Communists, remember the condition of tibet..according to indias perspective if nepal joins china The chinese influence on northern border will increase and also india will loose a trusted neighbour..

一点都不……为什么你会认为尼泊尔应该那样做……它也不会有利于尼泊尔…….尼泊尔仍在为自己的宪法苦苦挣扎……如果他们加入中国他们将会被共产党统治,记住西藏的情况……从印度的角度看,如果尼泊尔加入中国,中国对北部边境的影响将会增大并且印度会失去一个可以信赖的邻居。
Written Jun 16 • View Upvotes • Asked to answer by Kushal Raj Sharma
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Anonymous(匿名)
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no need to ask this question. don't worry; the rate at which Indians are getting nepali nagarikta, in about 10-15 years there will be no Nepal.

没有必要问这个问题。别担心;印度人在尼泊尔比率正不断增加,大约在10-15年内尼泊尔就不存在了。
Written Jan 31, 2014 • View Upvotes
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