美国现在针对中国做的事情就是以前针对日本做的事情（下） [美国媒体]

What Is America Doing To China? The Same Things It Did To Japan

美国现在针对中国做的事情就是以前针对日本做的事情（下）



Washington has sent a clear and loud message to China in recent months: you can no longer take the American market for granted. You must develop your own market, so as to balance the trade books. That's why Washington has announced a host of tariffs on products imported from China. This message isn't new. It echoes a similar message America sent to Japan back on September 22, 1985, at the Plaza Accord. That's when the Japanese economy was growing by leaps and bounds by running a big trading surplus with the US. We know what happened in the aftermath of the Plaza Accord. The Japanese economy went on a rollercoaster ride before descending into a prolonged stagnation that has lasted to this day.

最近几个月华盛顿已经对中国发出了清晰的信号：你不能再理所当然的对待美国市场了。你必须发展自己的市场，从而平衡贸易。所以华盛顿宣布对来自中国的产品征收关税。这个信息并不新鲜。这与1985年9月22号美国通过《广场协议》向日本发出的信息类似。当时的日本经济也是大步向前，与美国形成巨大的贸易顺差。我们知道《广场协议》之后都发生了什么。日本经济继续过山车般，最终陷入长久的停滞，直到今天。

Emilio8 hours ago
For now, China wants to show the world that they are strong and better than the United States. That is true for now. America will suffer now, and China will suffer even more. Even a small nation would damage China's economy, let alone with the United States. America economy is greater than China. What would happen to China in a matter of couple of years. Their GDP will fall 5.30 to 3.50. That is a guarantee that China will not survive with trade war. China is bigger then the United States and has 1.4 billion, so their expenditure is much, much greater than America. Lets see the outcome in a year or two.

现在，中国想向世界展示自己比美国好，比美国强。目前而言倒也是如此。美国将遭受苦难，但中国将遭受更多苦难。即使是一个小国也能摧毁中国经济，更别提美国了。美国经济规模比中国大。未来几年中国将会发生什么，他们的GDP将下降5.3到3.5。也就是说中国肯定无法从贸易战中生存下来。中国比美国大，人口14亿，所以他们的花销也会比美国大得多。让我们看看一两年后会是什么结果。

fred8 hours ago
That article made no sense at all. Manufacturing and labor goes in waves. Mass consumption, mass production. The article misses a major point. The production and innovation moved from Japan over to Korea. In the 1980s everyone bought Sony televisions. Samsung has taken over that market. China is heavily invested in Africa so as the country matures it will be able to provide cheap labor for the next 30 years. China also owns trillions in American debt. When Americans want to pay $15,000 for TV's that's great let's start making TVs back in the United States.

这篇文章毫无意义。制造业和劳动力是一批又一批的。大规模消费，大规模生产。这篇文章忽略了主要的一点。生产和创新从日本转移向韩国。80年代，大家都买索尼电视机。现在三星接管了这个市场。中国在非洲投入巨资，随着中国的成熟，将能继续提供廉价劳动力30年。中国还拥有万亿美元的美国债务。如果美国人愿意花15000美元购买电视机的话，那很好，那先从在美国制造电视机开始吧。

factswelcome7 hours ago
We need to be aware of the habit of Panos Mourdoukoutas for selective reality.
What Mourdoukoutas has failed to mention is that American and non American companies are fighting to get into the consumer market of China. ( Trump and Ross wanted to pry open the Chinese market even more, NOT retreating from it)
What does it mean? Instead of the gloomy picture painted by Mourdoukoutas, they expect explosive growth. 
Another SELECTIVE truth Panos Mourdoukoutas practices is this---While his claim that the economic growth rate in China has "slowed" is true, he deliberately avoided mentioning that it is growing at about TWICE the rate of America, at around 6.9%. That is a very healthy growth for the size of an 11.22 trillion economy.
(Panos Mourdoukoutas will tell you( and has done so) that India growth rate is higher. That is correct, at 7% in 2017. But again, he CHEATED by not mentioning the size of Indian economy (USD 2.45 trillion)
Due laziness or selective reporting, Panos Mourdoukoutas has failed to acknowledge that the social safety net, such as social insurance and health insurance are being set up in lightning speed in China. 
The service sector is regarded by Western companies as the star in growth, going forward. That was why pharmaceutical and financial CEOs went to a meeting chaired by the president of China a couple days ago.

我们要意识到该作者的选择性报道习惯。
该作者没有提及的是美国和非美国公司都争着想要进入中国市场。（川普和罗斯更是想要更多的进入中国市场，而不是从中国撤出）
这意味着什么？意味着不会像作者描绘的那么惨淡，而是爆发性的增长。
虽然作者所说的中国经济在放缓是事实，但是作者故意不提中国经济增长是美国两倍，也就是6.9%。对于一个11.22万亿美元经济体来说，这是一个非常健康的增长了。
然后作者会说印度经济增长率更高。没错，印度2017年为7%。但是，印度经济规模只有2.45万亿美元。
不知道是懒惰还是选择性报道，该作者又没有提及的是中国的社会安全网比如医保和社保正以极快的速度在建成。
中国的服务业也被西方企业所看好。所以就在前几天，医药和金融领域的CEO们参加了中国主席支持的一次会议。

D P9 hours ago
There’s no fairness, economic Darwinism holds. China can’t compare to Japan, because Japan has been a US colony since 1945. Japan couldn’t mount a fight if it wanted to. Organically China is comparable to the US in terms of landmass & has 4x number of consumer market & it has linked up with neighbors to develop asian economic integration. Japan has always been a island & will continue to be so until it comes to grip with reality & be part of asian community

没有公平，这就是经济达尔文主义。中国没法和日本比，因为日本自1945年以来就是美国殖民地。日本想反抗都不行。国土面积上中国和美国相当热，人口四倍，也就是消费市场四倍，而且和邻国进行亚洲经济融合。日本一直都是个岛屿，以后也会是，除非日本面对现实成为亚洲社区的一部分。

David8 hours ago
In true Capitalism prices are determined by makers or business owners,,not government. Tariffs are nothing shy of price fixing by the government. This is going to hit the consumers wallet in the end as all the tariff increases will merely be passed on. Many items China sends here are no longer made in the US so get out the wallet. Its coming. Thanks Donald,, higher prices don't bother billionaires but we will feel the pain from this outrageous economic approach.

在真正的资本主义里，价格是由市场或者企业决定的，不是政府决定。关税就是政府附加的价格。最终受伤害的还是消费者。从中国进口的好多东西我们美国都不制造了。感谢川普，对于亿万富翁而言，高价格没什么，但是我们小老百姓要受苦了。

Anonymous Coward5 hours ago
Your painting Japan's rise and fall as a story of taking advantage of, and then being shut out of unfair trade with America is kind of pathetic. Here's a better story. The working age population of Japan (15-64) peaked in 1989. After that the working age population declined, the youth population declined, and the elderly (65+) population expanded rapidly before leveling off (not declining). Japan's economy was growing and growing as long as the worker to dependent ratio was getting better. When the demographics started to change and the number of elderly dependents started to move up, the growth is over. When your population of workers drop by 20% and your number of dependents holds steady it's pretty hard to grow your economy.

作者称日本的崛起是因为利用了美国，而日本的衰弱是因为美国切断了和日本的不公平贸易，这种看法是悲哀的。我来说说真正的原因吧。日本的工龄人口（15-64）在1989年达到了顶峰。之后工龄人口开始减少，年轻人口减少，而老龄化人口（65岁以上）快速增加。总之，日本的工龄人口比例越高，老龄化人口比例越小，日本经济就会发展，而如果老龄人口更多，工龄人口变少，那么就没有发展。当你的工人人口下降20%而老龄人口保持不变时，要发展经济真的很难。