今年谁会对抗中国？ [美国媒体]

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The growth of the South China Sea as a primary area of concern of the U.S.-Japan alliance, second perhaps only to the Korean nuclear threat, is one of the main trends of the past four years. The East China Sea, once a serious concern, has receded in the background as China—under Xi Jinping’s direction—has turned its attention and focus on securing Chinese pre-eminence inside the Nine-Dashed Line. This coming spring, the Philippines’ court case on the legality of this line will be decided by the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague. By many accounts, and by the weaknesses inherent in China’s claims, the finding is likely to be in Manila’s favor.

作为美日联盟主要关注地区的中国南海局势的发展，其受关注程度大概仅仅只是次于朝鲜的核威胁，是过去四年中的一个主要趋势。中国——在习近平的指导下——已经转移了注意力以及焦点到巩固其在九段线的存在感，而中国东海，曾经作为一个备受关注的地区，已经隐居幕后了。今年春季，菲律宾提出的关于九段线合法性的诉讼案件将会在海牙常设国际仲裁法院判决。通过许多依据，以及中国声明中存在的固有漏洞，最终的判决结果很有可能合马尼拉的心意。

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American and Japanese alliance managers must now think through what the consequences of such a finding will be. Clearly, such a finding will not change or reverse China’s grand strategy within the sea. Xi Jinping is said to strongly favor the strategy, as do various domestic constituents in the military, state-owned energy enterprises and fishing-related industries. Atop all of that is strong public support for China’s claims among the public. Furthermore, China has already intimated it will not be bound by any ruling.

美日联盟的上层在现在应该仔细思考这样的一个结果将会带来什么影响。毫无疑问，这个结果将不会改变或翻转中国的海洋策略。据说习近平十分中意这个策略，在军队内部、国有能源公司以及渔业相关企业做了各类变革。据中国声称，在中国民众里，所有这些措施都得到了大力支持。此外，中国早已暗示，其主张不会接受任何裁决。

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Whatever the case, the ruling presents a landmark situation in which the legitimacy of China’s regional strategy will be challenged at the global level. How will Beijing react to such a finding? How will it react to having its strategy cast as “illegal”? Many in Washington predict that China will react by proclaiming another Air Defense Identification Zone, to match the one established in the East China Sea. In the National Interest, Harry Kazianis has argued that a Chinese ADIZ in the South China Sea is just a matter of time. Some like Chinese thinker, Feng Zhang, have attempted to argue that China only establishes ADIZs in reaction to provocation, firmly pushing responsibility for its actions on others. Some like Prashanth Parameswaran have argued that the ADIZ is being established in practice by the building of these airstrips in the Spratlys, and the posting of missile systems in the Paracels.

无论这个事态如何发展，这次裁决都会表明，中国前所未有的地区性策略的合法性在全球层面上将会受到拦阻。北京将会如何回应此次裁决？当其策略被判定为“非法”，中国将会如何回应？华盛顿许多人预测中国将会以宣告另外一个防空识别区来回应此次判决，来与其在中国东海建立的防空识别区相对应。Harry Kazianis（《国家利益》杂志前执行主编）在《国家利益》杂志里认为，中国在中国南海的防空识别区的建立只是时间问题。而一些像张峰（Feng Zhang）这样的中国思考者，则试图争辩说中国只有在受到挑衅时才会以建立防空识别区的举动作为回应，坚决地将中国自身行为产生的责任全部推卸到其他国家。一些如Prashanth Parameswaran的思考者则提出，通过南沙群岛上的这些飞机跑道的建立以及黄沙群岛上导弹系统的布置，中国实际上正在南海建立防空识别区。


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ferdinand marcos • 2 days ago
Who Will Stand Up to China This Year?
All UN member countries who adhere INTERNATIONAL LAW.
 
今年谁会对抗中国？
所有遵守国际法的联合国成员

ting_m_1999  ferdinand marcos • a day ago
Who Will Stand UP to America, the Dictatorial Tyrant, This Year?
 
（回LS）今年谁会对抗美国，这个独裁暴君？
 
ferdinand marcos  ting_m_1999 • a day ago
The China Communist Party headed by Pres. Xi of PROC. and North Korea.

（回LS）中国和朝鲜。

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A Chinese  ferdinand marcos • 19 hours ago
Why should anybody stand up against anybody at all? Why can't we have peace, harmony, cooperation, development and mutual benefits as the trend of our times?
Why does American always inciting hostility, sowing discords, and encouraging this one stand up to that one? Why can't the USA be a constructive member of this global village by suggesting something to promote peace, harmony, cooperation, developments and mutual benefits?
All UN member nations need to stand up against all criminals violate international law, starting by prosecuting the NATO member Nations which have been committing war crimes non stop since WWII, then they should bring thieves like the Philippines, Vietnam and Japan to court.

（回LS）
为什么每个人全部都要互相对抗？为什么我们就不能够顺应如今这个时代的潮流，和平、和谐、合作、发展和互利？
为什么美国人总要煽动敌意，制造隔阂，怂恿某个国家去对抗另外一个国家？为什么美国就不能够提出一些倡议来促进和平、和谐、合作、发展和互利，在这个地球村充当一个建设者的角色？
所有的联合国成员国需要对抗所有那些违反国际法的罪犯，就由起诉那些从二战后仍然不停犯下战争罪的北约成员国开始，接着就应该把菲律宾、越南和日本这些小偷逮捕至法庭受审。

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Sannie Evan Malala  A Chinese • 17 hours ago
Who is the liar? China is the liar. Man you know why China didn't appear to the Arbitral Court? Because if it appeared there the Philippines will slap you various Chinese maps from ancient China to the recent which showed that Spratly is not in them but the southernmost island is Hainan. But now that you realized that below the South China Sea, especially the Spratlys, is reach in natural resources you then invented those Nine-Dash Line or Eleven-Dash Line? Now who is the liar? who is the thief? For centuries Filipino and Vietnamese fishermen are fishing in these waters but just recently you came and drove those fishermen from their traditional fishing grounds, you ram and drown their boats, then you seize those low-tide elevation rocks and pile sand in them and you call them islands, which you designed fitted for military use. Now you are announcing to the world and to the passers in the area that those are your territories. Now who is the liar? Do you expect the world will believe your lies because you just keep on repeatedly saying them?

谁是骗子？中国是骗子。你知道为什么中国没有出现在仲裁法院吗？ 因为一旦从古中国到近代中国变化多样的版图中曾显示中国的最南端是海南岛，并不包括南沙群岛，菲律宾便会据此来反击中国。但是现在你意识到在中国南海下面，特别是南沙群岛，有着触手可及的自然资源，所以你发明了那些所谓的九段线十一段线？现在，谁是骗子？谁是小偷？几个世纪以来，菲律宾和越南的渔民在这些水域里捕鱼，但就在最近，你来了，将那些渔民赶出他们的传统水域，淹没他们的船只，然后你抓住那些落潮才会露出的岩石往上面埋沙子，将他们称之为岛，还设计了一些匹配的军事设施。现在你向全世界和这些地方的人们宣布这原本属于你们的领土。到底谁是骗子呢？你是不是认为只要你不断地说着这些话全世界就会相信了？

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A Chinese  Sannie Evan Malala • 17 hours ago
The nine-dashed-line is a fact, even the Pinoy admits its existence as you have attested; you cannot call a fact a lie, by calling a fact a lie means you are lying and you are a liar lying to cover Pinoy's stealing.
 
（回LS）九段线是实际存在的事实，就像你自己也说的，即使是菲律宾也承认其存在；你不能把一个真实存在的事实称为一个谎言，而通过你这种把事实称为谎言的说法，那意味着你本身就是个大骗子，而且试图用谎言来掩盖菲律宾偷窃的行为。
 
Pits  A Chinese • 17 hours ago
china’s territorial claims, based upon a 1947 map showing nine dashed lines encircling the SCS, has NO legitimate basis...NOT recognize by the international community..then or now..there is absolutely NO HISTORICAL basis to support either of the dash-line claims..Chiang Kai-Shek’s 9 or 11 dash line declaration is nothing but a gigantic historical fraud..its nothing but a sole declaration made by china which nobody recognizes or acknowledges.,,its not a treaty or something the world is compelled to abide or accept or believed..nor is it binding to anyone..

（回LS）中国领土声明的依据是一份展示九段线包含了南海诸礁岛的1947年的地图，而这依据是完全不合法的...也不被国际社会承认...无论是当时还是现在...中国都毫无任何历史依据来支持其九段线声明...蒋委员长的9或11段线的宣告就是一个巨大的历史欺诈...这就是一份没有任何人承认的仅仅中国单方面的宣告，，这九段线根本就不是一个世界必须去遵守或者接受或者相信...或者一个对任何人都有约束力的协议或什么东西。

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Merlion Economist  ferdinand marcos • a day ago
Rule of law is only law for non Super Powers. ie. the small players.
Don't you know your history.
PH are really flogging a dead horse with this one. Same judgement that got them no where in the past.

 讲法律，对小国家是要讲法律，超级大国可不需要。
你不了解历史啊，
菲律宾这一次实际上是做无用功。一直以来，这样的法律判决对他们（中国）来说都没有什么约束力的。
 
ferdinand marcos  Merlion Economist • a day ago
merlion of singapore or native chinese hiding in singapore.
No one is above the Law, unless it's a Living type of Law.
China's way of STRATEGY in defending a BOGUS CLAIM is a waste of effort on something when there is no chance of succeeding, that is the definiton of flogging a dead horse.
Changing a strategy is the best solution, in face of a looming UNFORESEEN LEGAL REPERCUSSION.
How about trillions of Dollars?
When there is money, money comes.
China got money, and China will Pay Big Time!

楼上是新加坡人，或者隐藏在新加坡的中国人。没有人可以凌驾在法律之上，除非是生活类型的法律。中国维护自己无效主权声明的战略根本是在做无用功，不可能成功的。改变战略才是最好的解决方案，否则将受到法律的制裁。

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Merlion Economist  ferdinand marcos • 20 hours ago
Makes no difference if you are Chinese Singaporean or native chinese in Singapore cause the only difference is a generation or two. Their still essentially made up of the same superior genetics that gets you Top on the PISA ranking.
No one is above the law unless its international law. Then theres a pecking order.
Thats just realism. That realism allows for the US to dominate the PH when it did.
Bogus claim is still a claim. Now if its the US that just came into Asia and said this island is mine like they did with Hawaii then yeah its bogus. But since there were chinese fishermen in the SCS that were named after them and Chinese in PH, then there is a linkage that helps legitimize the claim.
But at the end of the day, its guns that sort out claims, not law.
Sorry.

不管是新加坡华人还是在新加坡的中国人，都是差不多的，差别也只是先来后到一两代人而已。本质上他们都是拥有相同的优秀基因，这也使得他们在pisa测试中的成绩居于前列。
法律不能无视，除非是国际法，那里是讲的是丛林法则。
这就是现实，在现实中，美国就能主宰菲律宾的一举一动。
无效声明也是一种声明。今天如果美国人来到亚洲，说这个岛是美国的，就像他们攫取夏威夷曾用的手法，那么这就是伪造的声明。但是如果岛上先有中但是南中国海有中国渔民，名字也是根据中国来命名，而且菲律宾也有华人，所以中国的声明是合法的。但是最终还是靠枪炮来解决，而不是靠法律能解决得了的。悲伤

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ferdinand marcos  Merlion Economist • 18 hours ago
Big words, like big guns.
A native chinese with an identity crises, flaunts his superior genes. hahhahha.......
A native chinese in a city republic, like mainland china flaunts it's untested military personnel or hardwares...hahahaha
plain and simple
If you got a gun big or small, might as well use.
Guns are not for show, you show it, use it.
In Phil., guns are kept it's not for show.
Philippine intends with constant reminder by it's friends to be civilize. In civilize world, Law is better than guns, but if the other party does not recognized Law, but only guns then, might as well respond the same.
As for your native land china till this present time, the US navy has been challenging those fearfull weapons of China's Peoples Liberation Army or Navy.
Has China RESPONDED THE CHALLENGE?

大嘴如放屁。
土着中国人不知道自己几斤几两了，在这了炫耀什么优良基因，哈哈.......
土着中国佬，大陆人炫耀他们那些经不起考验的军队和军队装备，哈哈哈，脑残加无知。
你有大炮，那打出来啊。
大炮是拿来炫耀的？你有，就打出来。
在菲律宾，大炮不是用来摆设的。
菲律宾人经常说，要做一个文明人。在文明世界，讲的是法律，而不是暴力。但是，如果有人，未闻文明，只识拳头，我便战。
土着中国佬嚣张什么啊，美军已经挑战中国人民解放军或海军的那些“可怕”武器，直到现在，中国佬有敢吱一声吗？

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Merlion Economist  ferdinand marcos • 17 hours ago
I thought I was trying to keep it simple stupid with Big Guns, rather than long range highly mobile missile platform. I wasn't sure if the Filo could understand me.
The smart thing about the chinese is that they don't have to use their guns. Still get what they want like scarbrough shaol.
Has china responded to the challenge. Yes! by reclaiming islands and building runways and putting missile batteries on it.
US temporary. China permanent.

我想，简单的大炮是没什么，但长程导弹的高机动发射平台可不是说笑的。不知道菲律宾人能否理解这一点。
妙的是，中国不需要使用什么大炮，仍然能拿到他们想要的黄岩岛。
中国敢吱一声吗？ 废话！重新声明岛屿的主权，在岛上大建跑道，设置导弹，这算不？
美国挣得一时，中国挣得一世！