特朗普声称中国入侵了希拉里的个人邮箱，FBI对此进行了驳斥 [美国媒体]

FBI contradicts Trump claim that China hacked Clinton’s private email server

特朗普声称中国入侵了希拉里的个人邮箱，FBI对此进行了驳斥



Kulban
I don't care who you're rooting for. Can we all at least agree that no president should ever trust television over their own intelligence advisers?

我不在乎你们支持谁。任何总统对电视节目的信任，都不应该超过对他们自己的情报顾问的信任，我们所有人至少应该同意这一点。

NotMrMike
Why is the leader of a country constantly at odds with the countrys own intelligence agency? It's beyond moronic.
Edit: How did this become top voted comment? Y'all are so divided on this!

为什么一个国家的总统总是跟它的情报部门意见相左？这已经超出了愚蠢的范畴。
另外：这条评论怎么会变成最高点赞的评论？你们对这个问题的意见明明分歧很大！

SirLenzalot
And at the same time some GOP don't believe in the FBI anyway.

与此同时，有些大佬党根本不信任FBI。

imagepoem
In a brief statement, the law-enforcement organization said: “The FBI has not found any evidence the servers were compromised.”
Womp womp.

在一次简要声明中，这个执法机构说：“FBI没有发现任何证据表明服务器遭到入侵。”
嗯哼。

tank_trap
So fucking embarrassing. How many times has Trump's own departments come out and corrected his lies? I've lost count by now.

真特么的尴尬，特朗普自己的部门跳出来纠正他的谎话，这种事都发生多少次了？我都数不清。



drfunkenstien014
Oh you mean that story that /r/conspiracy was promoting as irrefutable evidence despite the article not having any listed sources and was initially reported by the media outlet founded by Tucker Carlson?

哦，你是说阴谋论频道的那篇文章被当作无可辩驳的证据了？尽管那篇文章没有列举任何来源，最初是塔克卡尔逊建立的新闻机构报道的。

fuckyeahforscience
Retarded orange twat.

弱智的橙色娘们儿。

victheone
I read somewhere that it's best not to argue with someone suffering from dementia. Their reality is fundamentally different from yours, their brain can't be reasoned into processing things the same way yours does. It's best to just play along.
I think this case may be an exception. Good job, FBI.

我在某个地方读到过一句话，最好不要和患有痴呆症的人争论。他们的现实与你存在根本的不同，他们的大脑无法像你那样理性的处理事情。最好只是跟他一起玩耍。
我觉得这个案子或许是个例外。FBI干得好。

RBFesquire
I've never been so disturbed as to read Trumps third person tweets. To think a leader of a country, releases an official statement via twitter, and writes it in the third person. Is it a way of detaching himself since his North Korea project come to nothing? Really is the first time I've gone from the guy is strange, to the guy is deranged!
Then he's got some conspiracy theory bullshit as a pinned tweet about Google. He really is slipping further into delusion.
Dear America, please do something quick. I thought us Brits were going through shit with brexit, but blimey you really have picked a right one to be in charge.
Edit: downvote me to hell I just wanted to get this off my chest.

看特朗普的第三人称推特，从来没有让我如此不安过。想一想，一个国家的领导人，通过推特来发布一份官方声明，并且用的是第三人称。这难道是把自己摘出来的方式？因为他的北韩计划一无所获。真的，这是我第一次遇到这种人，从一个奇怪的家伙，变成了一个疯狂的家伙。
然后，他又想出了一些关于谷歌的阴谋论的胡说八道，又当作推文发出来。他真的正在进一步陷入幻想之中。
亲爱的美国，请快递采取措施。我觉得我们英国人由于脱欧曾经历过艰难时刻，但天啊，你们美国人真的选出来一个适合掌权的家伙。
编辑：使劲踩我吧，我就是想说出这些话。

StonerMeditation
trump (and republicans) - using the Nazi playbook:
“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.”—Adolf Hitler
Reminder - Hillary Clinton testified for 11 hours before Congress about Benghazi.

特朗普（和共和党）正在按照纳粹的剧本行事：
“编造大谎话，编简单点，然后不停的重复，最终他们就会相信它。”——阿道夫希特勒。
提醒：希拉里克林顿就班加西事件在国会作证11个小时。

TooShiftyForYou
It's pretty incredible that the FBI has to make statements to dispute stories about FBI findings that are being circulated by the president.

联邦调查局不得不发表声明，来反驳总统正在传播的关于联邦调查局调查结果的报道。这真让人难以置信。

because-i-can-
Hi, I'm new to this; I've been in a coma for the past 5 years. If this person is innocent, why is he constantly railing against his own country's law enforcement and intelligence?

嗨，我刚刚知道这件事；过去5年我一直在昏迷之中。如果这个人是无辜的，为什么他总是抱怨本国的执法和情报工作？

mad_titanz
Only an idiot would trust a propaganda TV network like Fox News over his country’s intelligence agency.

对福克斯新闻那样的政治宣传电视网络的信任，超过了自己国家的情报机构，只有笨蛋才会这样做。

Thugsassy
Watching Trump during his presidency has given me a glimpse into how i think Hitler got into power.
Just 5 years ago, how many Americans would have trusted U.S. intelligence reports compared to a reality star that fools around with hookers ?
All it takes is him saying "fake news" and a stupid grin and his followers are back in line.

看着特朗普在总统任期内的表现，我对希特勒是如何上台的有了一些了解。
就在5年前，有多少美国人会相信美国情报机构的报告，而不是一个与妓女鬼混的真人秀明星？
只要他说“假新闻”，然后傻笑一声，他的追随者就会重新排着队来追随他。



hiiipowerculture
did you see his latest "StopTheBias" campaign against Google? This alternate reality is a weird one.

你有没有看到他最新的指责谷歌的“停止偏见”运动？这种交替的现实真是奇怪啊。

-rwsr-xr-x
So, more of the same disinformation campaign to try to discredit the FBI, DOJ, CIA and other bureaus, combined with a concerted effort to discredit the official media, search engines and other departments and corporations, to cause dissent and distrust in the citizen population.
This is a very well-known tactic of dictatorships. These attempts will ultimately fail, as they always do, but he's welcome to try.
This isn't 1942 anymore, this isn't Orwell's 1984, this is 2018, and we have our own ways of verifying facts, facts that don't require the official media sources, we have mesh networks that transcend the 'public' Internet, we have USB dead-drops, Tor and the "dark web" to help get our information in and out.
Trump's disinformation and dismantling campaign is falling on deaf ears. Eventually nobody will be listening, and that's precisely what we should do with this.
His fuel is tweets and retweets. Just ignore it. Don't post it, don't retweet, don't even comment.
When he's at a press conference and starts spouting obviously false rhetoric, the media should immediately turn out their lights, pack up their microphones and walk out. Leave him there at the podium, in the dark, alone.

因此，这种虚假信息运动越来越多，试图抹黑联邦调查局、美国司法部、美国中央情报局和其他部门，同时齐心协力的抹黑官方媒体、搜索引擎和其他部门和公司，在公民中引起异议和不信任。
这是一个耳熟能详的独裁策略。而这些尝试一如既往的终将失败，但我们欢迎他尝试。
现在不再是1942年了，也不是奥威尔的1984年，而是2018年，我们有自己的甄别事实的办法，事实上不需要官方媒体，我们有超越“公共”互联网的网状网络，我们有USB死点，TOR，以及“暗网”，帮助我们收发信息。
特朗普的虚假信息和解散竞选团队正在被置若罔闻。最终没有人会听他，这正是我们应该做的。
他的能量是不停的发推特。无视他就好了。不要回帖，不要发推特，甚至不要评论。
当他在新闻发布会上开始发表明显错误的言论时，媒体应该立即关掉他们的灯光，收起他们的麦克风，然后离开。让他独自站在黑漆漆的讲台上。

GetToTheChopperNOW
Is it even possible for Trump to get through just one day without posting inflammatory bullshit to rile up the masses and get his narcissistic ass at the front of the news, and just do his fucking job? I honestly don't think he's capable. He's a child that has to constantly wave his hands and shout "look at me! LOOK at me!"

特朗普难道一天都不能消停吗？每天都在发布煽动性的屁话来激怒大众，让他这个自恋狂在新闻中露脸，他就是这样工作的？我诚心诚意的认为他不能胜任。他就像的小屁孩一样，不停的招手高喊：“看我！看我！”

when_the_tide_comes
Trump is like that embarrassing racist, backwards grandpa that we all have and the FBI is like us, always trying to correct to the people around us what our racist grandpa inappropriately said.

特朗普就像我们每家都有的那种令人尴尬的思想守旧的种族主义老爷爷，而FBI就像我们自己，总是试图向我们周围的人纠正我们种族主义老爷爷说的不恰当的话。

Airazz
When it was actually Russia and he knew it all along.

这件事实际上是俄罗斯干的，他早就知道了。

N0N-R0B0T
So now you gotta ask yourself 'why is Donny Dumbass lying about this?'

Who you gonna believe: The FBI (pffft), or the most honest and charming president we've had since James Buchanan?

所以现在你会问你自己：“为什么唐蠢普在这件事上撒谎呢？”
你相信哪个：FBI（噗），还是我们自詹姆斯布坎南以来最诚实最有魅力的总统？

wecalleditamerica
Why does Trump talk like Doge meme?

为什么特朗普像个搞笑柴犬那样讲话？



sold_snek
Almost 2 years later and Trump's still bringing up Clinton's emails.
Also, you know it's bad when a president's own intelligence agencies have to constantly correct his public statements.

差不过过去两年了，特朗普依然在纠缠希拉里的邮箱。
此外，你也知道，总统自己的情报机构不得不不断纠正他的公开声明，这件事可不怎么好。

jay_alfred_prufrock
Oh ffs... What a shocker, Trump was shitting "alternative facts" again.
I think he is just trying make every sane person in the States go "You know what? Fuck this, I'm moving to Canada /Europe /Australia /Greenland /Moon, I've had enough!" and then, they can do whatever they want with the country.

哦，真让人震惊，特朗普又在瞎扯什么“另一个事实”了。
我觉得他只是在试图让这个国家的每个理智的人变成这样：“你知道吗？去他妈的，我要搬到加拿大/欧洲/澳大利亚/格陵兰岛/月球去，我特么受够了！”然后，他们就可以对这个国家为所欲为了。

HotmessExpress46
Imagine working in the press industry and having to write articles as if he's not a fucking lunatic

想象一下，在新闻行业工作，不得不写一些就好像他不是疯子的文章。

mrg1957
The truth ain't the truth. When people start arguing about reality there's a problem.
Perhaps some non-brain addled adults could have a discussion.

真相不是真相。当人们开始争论现实时，问题就出现了。
或许那些没有大脑的人可以讨论一下。

Chemaz
The Secretary of State was running the State Department from a private, unsecured, unencrypted server in her bathroom. (As in, she refused to sign for any government network accounts.) Her name was Clinton, the domain was clinton.com, registered to the Clinton residence.
It was accessed by multiple foreign intelligence agencies - no question.
When US government officials raised eyebrows, she wiped the server and destroyed her peripheral devices with hammers. Literally, with hammers. Then Obama administration officials within the FBI granted immunity to those involved and let Clinton off the hook... because she didn't mean any harm.
The fact that more hasn't been made of this astounds me.

这位国务卿在她的浴室里用一台私人的、不安全的、没有加密的服务器管理国务院。(她拒绝签收任何政府网络账户。)她的名字是Clinton，域名是clinton.com，登记在Clinton官邸。
它曾被多个外国情报机构访问——毫无疑问。
当美国政府官员表示惊讶时，她用锤子擦了擦服务器，摧毁了自己的外围设备。是的，就是锤子。随后，奥巴马政府的联邦调查局官员对涉案人员给予豁免权，并让克林顿逃脱了制裁……因为她“没有恶意”。
事实上，这件事没有带来更大的麻烦，这一点让我震惊。

Ihavesweatyarmpits
It seems he is trying to put just a small seed of doubt in the mind of his base by saying shit that is so far out there that when the FBI does say something that is damning to Trump, his base will call it a lie. FAKE NEWS. Normalizing this bullshit is what he is all about. And it's a fucking shame that people EAT THIS SHIT UP.

看来他只是通过说一些废话，给他的支持者们撒下一粒小小的疑问的种子，以至于到目前为止，当联邦调查局说了某些对特朗普不利的话时，他的支持者们就会说这是谎话。“假新闻！”。把这些屁话正常化才是他的目的。而人们就是接受这种做法，真是他妈的丢脸。

Sydney_Shortier
I'm starting to think this guy might be full of shit.

我开始觉得这家伙脑子里都是屎。

thejorp
I thought it was kinda obvious by now, Trumps strategy. He deliberately says something wrong so main stream media is forced to report on it and gives everyone the accurate facts and get people talking about it. If he said water is wet, noone would report on it. This just brings clintons email server back into the spotlight for millions of people. Hes been doing this the whole time and MSM never learns..

我认为现在已经很明显了，这就是特朗普的战略。他故意说错一些事情，然后主流媒体被迫报道，给每个人准确的事实，让人们谈论它。如果他说水是湿的，没有人会报道。这让克林顿的电子邮件服务器重新成为数百万人关注的焦点。他一直都在这么做，而MSM从来都不长教训……

Darktidemage
Yeah no, a president who doesn't trust information coming from their intelligence apparatus is a major threat to national security.
I don't feel safe. Our enemies might decide to attack us and wtf is Trump going to do then? Not trust the FBI and the CIA and NSA? We are reallyall in greater jeopardy because of this buffoon.

不，这个不相信情报机构提供的信息的总统，已经成为国家安全的一大威胁。
我感觉不到安全。如果我们的敌人袭击我们，那特朗普会怎么做？他不相信联邦调查局、中央情报局和国家安全局？因为这个小丑，我们确实处于更大的危险之中。

kleintrpt
When is any of this going to get him impeached? What else do we need?

他什么时候会被弹劾？除此之外，我们还需要什么？

dolo_lobo
What a shit show

真是个狗屎节目。

DEBATE_EVERY_NAZI
Suddenly Republicans hate law enforcement??

共和党人突然之间痛恨执法机关了？



PurpleWomat
Does he have any connection to reality left at all?

他跟现实还有一点联系吗？

bugsybooz89
Can we all just hold him to the same standards we held Obama. Obama couldn't sneeze without the GOP going ape shit. Trump throws fecal matter out of his mouth and embarrasses Americans on a daily basis. Please just hold him to the standards you held the black president to. Trump supporters literally can't get over the fact that Obama didn't do ignorant shit and trump is a national dumb ass. Yes orange man bad. He really is.

我们能不能像对待奥巴马一样对待他？如果没有发疯的共和党，奥巴马连个喷嚏都不敢打。而特朗普每天都在喷粪，让美国人难堪。请按你要求黑人总统的标准来对待他。特朗普的支持者们简直无法接受这样一个事实，那就是奥巴马没有做愚蠢的事情，而特朗普是国家级的笨蛋。是的，这个橙色的人是坏蛋。他确实是。

Bojuric
Thots and prayers to the administration.

为政府祈祷。

KvotheLightningTree
Let me guess. Trump heard this on Fox News and repeated it on twitter like a good little parrot.

让我猜一猜。特朗普在福克斯新闻上听到了这句话，并在twitter上像只可爱的小鹦鹉一样加以重复。

Based_Zod
Donald Trump has yet to release his tax returns. What’s he hiding?

唐纳德特朗普尚未公布他的纳税申报表。他在隐藏什么呢?

Juggjiggler420
Oh, but China denied it. China even said that they "firmly opposes cyber-attacks and the theft of State secrets". Laughable.

哦，但是中国否认了。中国甚至表示，他们“坚决反对网络攻击和窃取国家机密”。可笑。

ghostfox1_gfaqs
“China is a staunch defender of cybersecurity. We firmly oppose and crack down on any forms of internet attacks and the stealing of secrets,” she added.
Totes legit.
Other places reported her server was very likely hacked, including AP and the NY Times.
Specifically, from that last link
When the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, said on Tuesday that his investigators had no “direct evidence” that Hillary Clinton’s email account had been “successfully hacked,” both private experts and federal investigators immediately understood his meaning: It very likely had been breached, but the intruders were far too skilled to leave evidence of their work.
Mr. Comey described, in fairly blistering terms, a set of email practices that left Mrs. Clinton’s systems wide open to Russian and Chinese hackers, and an array of others.
Especially since no government agency actually got their hands on the server..
I get it, we all hate trump. But fucks sake.

“中国是网络安全的坚定捍卫者。我们坚决反对和打击任何形式的网络攻击和窃取秘密活动。”她补充说。
其他媒体报道说，她的邮箱很有可能被入侵了，包括美国联合通讯社和纽约时报。
尤其是上一个链接。
当联邦调查局局长詹姆斯b科米周二表示，他的调查人员没有找到“直接证据”，证明希拉里克林顿的电子邮件帐户被“成功入侵”，私人专家和联邦探员立即明白了他的意思：它很可能被突破过，但入侵者太熟练，故而没有留下他们干活的证据。
科米先生用相当激烈的措辞描述说，一系列的电子邮件操作让克林顿的邮件系统对俄罗斯和中国黑客以及其他一系列黑客门户大开。

CarneyAsada
In any reddit post about Trump, one should immediately start looking for comments like yours.
News media sucks but social media is even worse when it comes to people being entirely oblivious to the information they are missing.

在任何关于特朗普的reddit帖子中，你都应该立即开始寻找像你这样的评论。
新闻媒体很糟糕，但在人们完全忽略他们漏掉的信息方面，社交媒体就更糟糕了。

Heyzeus95
How would the FBI know? They didn’t even look at the server.

FBI怎么知道的？他们甚至没有查看那台服务器。

deathbunnyy
"Are they sure it wasn’t Russia (just kidding!)?"
I hope this guy rots in hell, what a fucking shit show.

“他们确定这不是俄国人干的吗（只是开玩笑！）？”
我希望这家伙在地狱里烂掉，真是一场糟糕的表演。

silentjay01
Well this is just more proof that the FBI are a bunch of Liberal Shills. In fact, it is well know by most that the FBI has been a haven for some of the most Left Leaning Liberals for the last half century.

这更证明了FBI是一群自由主义者。事实上，大多数人都知道，在过去的半个世纪里，FBI一直是一些最左倾的自由派人士的避风港。

nomii
Trump probably just saw it on Fox news, since trusts them more than intelligence briefings

特朗普可能只是在福克斯新闻上看到的，因为他更信任他们而不是情报简报。

LaBrestaDeQueso
Still with the buttery males?

还和那些黄油男在一起吗？

Kazbo-orange
Doesn't matter, his base and/or a majority of the GOP wont hear this.
Trump planted the seeds that it was China, not Russia, so that's that

没关系，他的支持者和/或大多数共和党人不会听到这些。
特朗普播下的种子是：这是中国干的，而不是俄罗斯，就是这样。

Nova_Jake
The FBI has never lied before.

FBI以前从来没有说过谎。

Down4thaCount
Let’s dispel with this fiction that Donald Trump doesn’t know what he is doing. He know exactly what he’s doing.

我们要摒弃“特朗普不知道他在做什么”的谎言，他完全知道他在做什么。



HelloHiHello
Here you all go again. Firmly believing that trump is full of shit when very shortly it will be proved definitively that he was correct.

你们又来了。你们坚信特朗普满嘴废话，但很快就会证明他是正确的。

MyCleverNewName
Why is this buffoon still president?

为什么这个小丑依然在当总统？
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