为什么中国的核潜艇是低于标准的 [美国媒体]

Why China's Nuclear Subs Are Subpar

为什么中国的核潜艇是低于标准的



Over the past two decades, the People’sRepublic of China has made great advances in its military capabilities.However, it still lags woefully behind in developing nuclear-poweredsubmarines. The problem for the Chinese is that they lack the necessaryquieting and propulsion technologies to build anything remotely comparable toan American or Russian nuclear submarine.

过去20年来，中国在军事能力上取得了长足的发展。然而，在研发核动力潜艇方面依然落后很多。中国的问题在于缺乏必要的噪音抑制和推进技术，所以无法造出美国或者俄罗斯那样的核潜艇。

Kevin C • 6 hours ago
But why are the Chinese lagging behind innuclear submarines when they seem to be advancing in leaps and bounds in almostevery other field?
"It’s a two-part answer. One,noise-quieting technologies is one area where we have been particularly carefulnot to let out"
in other words they haven't stolen it yet.

中国在所有其他领域都快速发展，为什么单单在核潜艇技术上落后呢？
那是因为在噪音抑制技术方面我们非常小心，没有泄露出去。
换言之，这种技术还没有被他们窃取。

real77777 Kevin C · 5 hours ago
NOISE type of things is related to QUALITYand WORKMANSHIP.

噪音方面的东西和质量以及工艺相关。

True Pakistani  real77777 · 2 hours ago
It should be related to design firstactually. US is way ahead and mature in designing and building advanced submarinesand other naval vessels. China started too late.

实际上，噪音方面的东西首先和设计相关。在先进潜艇和其他海军舰艇的设计和建造方面，美国保持领先而且技术成熟。中国起步太晚了。

John Kevin C · 4 hours ago
They haven't bought the CNC machines fromour ally Japan like the Russians did in the 70's.

他们没有从我们的盟友日本那里购买数控机床，而俄罗斯在70年代就从日本购买了。

Shooi Dan Tom  Kevin C · 3 hours ago
We don t need to steal US stuff. We need afew Jews.

我们不需要窃取美国的东西。我们只需要几个犹太人就可以了。

Sum Ting Wong • 6 hours ago
Because one, it's made in China? Two, theyhaven't stolen the technology yet from the US or Russia.

第一个原因是因为这是中国制造？第二个原因是他们还没有从美国或者俄罗斯窃取相关技术。

Shooi Dan Tom  Sum Ting Wong • 5 hours ago
We are working on it. US and Russia haveJews, Germans, Jewish Germans, German Jews. We never claim to be the smartest.We are trying.

我们正在解决技术上的不足。美国和俄罗斯有犹太人，德国人，犹太裔德国人和德国裔犹太人。我们从没有称自己是最聪明的。我们在努力。

power4things • 6 hours ago
If you drop a metal cup the hull cracks.

只要金属杯落在船上，船体就会裂开。

Alan Smithee  power4things • 5 hours ago
You means like how rain water hitting USstealth fighters makes them not stealth fighters?

你的意思就好比雨水落在美国隐形战机上就会导致战机失去隐形能力？

Randal · 9 hours ago
All comes down to investment, in the end,in both money and time spent in the gaining of experience of building andoperating. There's nothing really special about Americans versus Chinese thatsays the former are naturally good at building nuclear submarines and thelatter inherently bad. Nor for any other major military category such as airpower or carrier operations.
That's not to say that there aren't racialand cultural differences that might apply to particular skillsets or militaryabilities, but such does not apply as far as I can see to this kind of broadmilitary industrial effort.
As far as long term relative militarycapability is concerned, all else being equal, gdp is destiny, at least in themodern era of industrialised warfare.

归根结底还是资金和时间的投入问题，只有这样才能获得建造和操作的经验。美国也没有什么特别的，称美国天生善于制造核潜艇，中国天生不善于制造核潜艇，这种说法是有问题的。这同样适用于空军实力和航母操作。但并不是说二者不存在种族和文化上的差异，这些差异可能会对特定的技术和军事能力产生影响，但在整体的军工发展上，我觉得这样的差异不会产生什么影响。
就相对的军事能力而言，在所有其他方面都同等的情况下，GDP是最终的决定因素，至少在现代的工业化战争中是如此。

sufi Randal · 9 hours ago
sometimes i wonder how long and how USA isgoing to resist China's rise........in 3 decades per capita income of USA andChina will be roughly the same but China will have at least 4 times bigger GDP4 times bigger market and 4 times more population..........as long as russiastands with china chances of USA using far superior nuclear assets isslim........unless there is a secret SALT 1 and SALT 2 type treaty China willachieve nuclear parity in a decade.

有时候我在想美国究竟还要花多少时间以及以何种方式抑制中国的崛起。。。30年后，中国和美国的人均GDP将是一样的，而总体而言，中国的GDP，市场以及人口都将是美国的4倍。。。只要俄罗斯站在中国一边，美国使用先进核武器的机会就很渺茫。中国的核能力将在十年后达到美国的程度。

arlowoodenhead  sufi · 9 hours ago
This is the same kind of 'sky is falling'thinking I heard so much of in the 90's. Then, all of the doom criers wereworried about Japan. No trend goes on forever, and China has driven a stakethrough her own heart with her 'One Child' policy. Forget about nuclear war orRussia standing with China, both are foolish dreams.

这种“天崩”思想和我在90年代所听到的如出一辙。当时所有的末日恐慌者都在担心日本。没有趋势会永远进行下去，而中国通过“一胎化”政策给自己造成了致命一击。忘了核战争或者俄罗斯结盟中国吧，二者都是愚蠢的幻想。

True Pakistani  arlowoodenhead • 7 hours ago
'SKY is Falling' Is not whole of WallStreet saying the same thing about China? Today YUM brand lost 18% of marketvalue not due to slow US sales but slow China sales. Why US does not matter toUS companies any more?
Foolish are those who have 16 plus Trilliondollars of debt and own 11 Trillion to China. How long you can extend thebubble ...no one knows. Pray US does not become Greece...60 Euros was ATM limita few weeks ago

这种“天崩”思想难道不正是华尔街对中国的全部看法吗？如今美国企业失去了18%的市值，原因不在于美国销售业绩的下降，而是中国销售业绩的下降。为什么美国对于美国企业来说不再重要了？
美国欠下了16多万亿美元的债务，其中11万亿美元是欠中国的，这是多么愚蠢啊。这样的泡沫还能扩大多久？没有人知道。希望美国不要成为希腊那样。。。几周前，ATM机最多只能取60美元。

JustMe True Pakistani • 6 hours ago
I dont know where you get your info...theUS owes China nothing... China buys US debt... for their security... becausethey dont trust their own money... also.. 11trillion? more like 1.2trillion ofUS debt is owned by China.... get ya head out your behind....

我不知道你从哪里获得这些信息。。。美国不欠中国什么东西。。。中国购买美国债务。。。为的是自己的安全。。。因为他们不相信自己的货币。。。还有你说11万亿美元？更像是1.2万亿美元吧。

arlowoodenhead  True Pakistani • 5 hours ago
Aren't you cute, the little wumao standingup for your big brother China.
Here are the numbers, the US owes about 1.4trillion to China, the same as it owes to Japan. Lots of people around theworld like to buy US securities, too bad Chinese ones are worthless.

你真可爱啊，你就是个无毛，站在自己的大哥哥中国旁边。
美国欠中国1.4万亿美元，和欠日本的金额一样。全世界好多人都喜欢购买美国的有价证券，糟糕的是中国的有价证券都是没价值的。

shiva the destroyer  True Pakistani • 6 hours ago
USA owes it to China....okay
but why r u jumping like a monkey as if USAowes it to Pakistan?

是啊，美国欠中国钱，那没问题。
但为什么你像猴子一样跳来跳去的，好像美国欠巴基斯坦钱似的？