国王姓刘的情况下，为什么汉朝还被称为汉朝？ [美国媒体]

Why is the Han dynasty called the Han dynasty when the king’s surname is Liu?

国王姓刘的情况下，为什么汉朝还被称为汉朝？


 
Chen Yankai
Answered Oct 26, 2017
The answer on the top now is (totally) inaccurate…
I don’t understand why Dimitris provided a map of states of Eastern Zhou.

现在赞数最高的那个回答完全不正确。。。
我不知道为什么Dimitris要提供一张东周的列国地图。

The Han(韩), one of the seven most powerful kingdoms in Eastern Zhou is a completely different name from Han(汉) of the later Han dynasty.

Han（韩）国是东周时期七个强大的王国之一，和后来的汉朝的Han（汉）是两个完全不同的名字。



Han(汉) had the meaning of the place that prisoners are exiled to. The old Chu kingdom in Eastern Zhou often exiled prisoners to the branch flowing to Yangtze River(the largest river in China), which gave the name to the branch—Han(汉).

1、“汉”在以前有囚犯被流放之地的意思。东周时期的那个楚国经常将囚犯流放到长江的那条支流去，所以这条支流就有了汉江这个名字。

Han(汉) also had the meaning of Galaxy. Ancient Chinese often used the word Tian Han(天汉) to represent the Galaxy, which symbolizing something large and high. (Han) River is the origin of Chu kingdom. So they gave that river the name—Han.

2、“汉”在以前还有银河的意思。中国古人经常用天汉来表示银河，象征着某个大而高的东西。（汉江）作为楚国的起源，所以他们将这条河命名为汉江。

[EDIT] Liu Bang himself was born in the old Chu kingdom before Qin’s unification of China.

在秦统一中国之前，刘邦就出生于东周的那个楚国里。



BTW, family name of Emperor was not allowed to be mentioned. Maybe another reason.

顺便说一下，皇帝的家族姓氏是不能让人提的。这或许另有他因。

Robert Maxwell
Answered Sep 7, 2017
It has more to do with the founder’s fief than it does where the founder himself was born—or, more broadly, where the individual had their political base—though the names of the dynasties themselves were fairly freely chosen and didn’t obey a single rule.

这更多的与创建者的封地有关，而不是他的出生地，或者更广泛点说，他的政治基础在哪里，当然朝代名字的选择一般都很随意，没有规则可循。

Liu Bang himself was born in the State of Chu, not the State of Han. Later, after the fall of the Qin Dynasty, Liu Bang would later be enfoeffed as lord of Hanzhong in the relatively impoverished Bashu region. Based on that fiefdom, he referred to himself as King of Han. When Liu Bang won the Chu-Han Contention and established himself as emperor, his title was simply carried over to the new dynasty: Han. If Xiang Yu had won, presumably the dynasty he established would be the Chu Dynasty.

刘邦自己生在楚国，而不是汉国。后来，在秦朝灭亡后，刘邦在相对贫穷的巴蜀被封为汉中王。根据这个封地，他称自己为汉王。在刘邦赢得楚汉之争并建立帝国时，他将自己的新建立的朝代称为汉朝。如果项羽赢了，那么他的朝代名字应该是楚朝。

This is the general pattern. Tang Gaozu was previously Duke of Tang, a title posthumously created for his grandfather, Li Hu, for example. Song had a bit of a stranger path, since the name of that dynasty was chosen due to the fact that the army the founder Zhao Kuangyin commanded was in Song Prefecture. The Ming Dynasty was named after the religious groups the founder of the Dynasty was involved in in his rise.

一般是这么命名的。唐高祖之前是唐国公，而唐国公是其爷爷李虎死后人们给他起的头衔。宋朝的起名方式则更加奇怪，因为之所以被称为宋朝是因为创建者赵匡胤指挥的军队位于宋区。明朝的名字来源是因为明朝建立者崛起过程中所参与的宗教团体叫做明教。

The Yuan, meanwhile, was a reference a reading from the Yijing. There are numerous theories on the origin of the Qing, some of them from Manchu, some of them from Chinese.

元朝的名字则来源于易经。而清朝的名字起源有很多理论，有些称源于满族，有些称源于华族。