中国真的有对美国发动网络攻击吗？ [美国媒体]

Cyber-Attack? China-US Relations Deteriorating Amid Trade War

中国真的有对美国发动网络攻击吗？







luci78 Cozma
There we go. Another invented story by USA

开始了，开始了啊，美国又虚构了一个故事。

Khairul Nadzry Azman
Amazon and Apple has already denied this. Amazon basically rubbished the report.

亚马逊和苹果已经否认这点了。亚马逊对这份报告，基本上是不屑一顾的。

Ginny Ly
it's the right time for them to make up story for the election.

对于他们来说，为了选举编故事，现在正是好时候啊。

Djur2844
I feel sorry for you in the US ... The whole world seems to be against you - China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Europe, Canada, Mexico, India and Venezuela ... US have to sanction them all ... Hmmm !!!

美国啊，我对你表示遗憾……似乎整个世界都在反对你--中国，俄罗斯，伊朗，朝鲜，欧洲，加拿大，墨西哥，印度和委内瑞拉……美国要制裁所有这些国家……嗯，有胆量！！



MrCHINBAG
They US is a nation of thieves and liars

美国他们就是一个小偷和骗子之国

Guldar Heel
Trump and Pence are such bad actors. The Rockefellers and Rothchilds should hire better actors.

川普和彭斯的演技也太拙劣了吧。洛克菲勒和罗斯柴尔德家族应该雇更好的演员。



Ann Young
Djur2844 the dollar is rising and our GDP is 19 trillion dollars. We have 56 allies and 800+ military bases in 150 countries. Finland just invited Americans to train with them and are thinking about joining NATO. NATO is 28 countries that are united in case Russia decides to go to war

美元正在升值，我们国家的GDP达到了19万亿美元。我们有56个盟国，在150个国家有800个军事基地。芬兰刚刚邀请了美国跟他们一起训练，他们也在考虑加入北约。北约28个国家团结一致，防止俄罗斯发动战争。

Ray Tek
But the Rothschild's love China. They want China to become America's succession.

但是罗斯柴尔德热爱中国啊。他们想让中国接美国的班。

Khanjan Mehta
don't blame your ignorance on Rothschild...they invaded you coz u let them do...

不要将你的无知归咎于罗斯柴尔德……他们入侵你们国家，是因为你愿意让他们这么做……



S S A
Exactly. US deserves to be hacked.

没错。美国确实应该被黑客入侵。

sam seto
If i had to choose between getting invaded by the US or having microchips implanted in computers.... I think i'd choose microchips

在被美国入侵和电脑被植入芯片二者之中……如果我必须做出选择的话，我会选择芯片。

Jason H.
Later, we found out that those Chinese chips were implanted in Iraq mass destruction weapons, testified by CIA sources.

稍后，美国中央情报局的消息又会证实，这些中国芯片被植入进了伊拉克的大规模杀伤性武器。



El At
@Extension Flexxin That's their tactic, it's like forging a document and trying to make it look old

这是他们的策略，就像伪造一份旧文件，你得让它看起来像旧的一样。

Mecano Pasensa
When they were making more money on public no one said any thing, now China is better in Technology, making brands that cost less and give better features more looks than many American companies, so now it's time to dirty China shoes..

他们在市场上挣大钱的时候，没人评头论足。现在中国在技术上更好了，创造了很多比美国公司成本更低、外观更好看的品牌商品时，美国就开始泼脏水了。



charlie morris
Pence should keep his mouth shut, They make great bookends on lies and divisions in America, Trump is Putin's Puppet and Pence is In his Mind a king in waiting because god told him. Whatever God he believes in count me out....

彭斯应该闭嘴，

Jack Meoff
Lol, First Hillary blames her loss on Russia and now Pence is going to blame Trumps re-election loss on China?

哈哈，希拉里失败后就怪俄罗斯，彭斯现在要把川普连任失败的责任推给中国了。

goff0103
Except there really is hard evidence behind the Russian connection, but the China one looks something made up due to a lack of concrete evidence.

俄罗斯干涉美国选举，背后确实有确凿的证据。但是中国这档子事，缺乏具体的证据啊，看起来就像编造的一样。



Robert Henderson
Cyber attack. Apple and fb, Amazon found nothing. It's just more endless lies from trump. Donald duck Trump. Is a liar like Gorge Bush and Obama. Americans have no say about anything. Their Rights have been removed. To their government the general population are slaves. If they don't do as they are told they well be put in prison. Americans are totally controlled

网络攻击。结果苹果、Facebook、亚马逊连根毛都没找到。川普只会无穷无尽地撒谎。川鸭子跟小布什、奥巴马都是一个货色，都爱说谎。美国人对任何事情都没有发言权。他们的权力被阉割掉了。对美国政府来说，普通老百姓就是奴隶。如果他们不按政府说的做，就会被关进监狱。美国被彻底地控制着。

Alex Ronny
Came on. Every programer in this earth know. A chip (harware) without software is like a car without tire. How a hardware can work without the software? apple and amazon made the software. How can a hardware work againts software It is the most stupid accussaition from white house .

彭斯，你不要这样说。地球上的每个程序员都知道，没有软件系统的芯片，就像没有轮胎的汽车。没有软件，硬件怎么工作呢？苹果和亚马逊是制造软件的。硬件公司怎么跟软件公司竞争呢？这是白宫最愚蠢的指责。



Jo Pao
That is not forcefully true. A system will detect exactly what running software will allow it to detect. Putting vulnerabilities in hardware is a great way to create a backdoor. Willfully or not, hardware is constantly created with vulnerabilities. A whole bunch of Intel processors had a huge one due to a mistake since corrected but plenty chips were released with that vulnerability. I have no idea about the veracity of the US claims; I'm just here to inform you about that fact.
Everything you do with software, you can do with hardware. Only saying it's possible not that it's actually happening. What I suspect is actually happening is that China has more data about their chips and their vulnerabilities and the same could be said about the US about it's own produced chips. As for the US claims here, I suspect they are part of a plan to put pressure on Chinese electronics companies as a tool for their trade war with China... to which China would end up responding in same... it's a mess. A little clarification... I am not saying that any chip can access any hardware system to do whatever it wants so it would depend on what chips we are talking of.

这不是绝对正确的。软件运行的话，系统绝对能检测到。让硬件有缺陷是制造软件后门的好方法。不管是不是有意的，硬件经常带有缺陷。芯片有一个错误的话，可以被修正，但是英特尔有着庞大的处理器规模，积小成大，太多的英特尔芯片放大了这个系统漏洞。美国的说法是否属实，我不知道，但是我可以确保我说的是事实。

你用软件做的每件事情，都是通过硬件来运行的。被中国监视这件事情，只能说有可能，但不能说它就在发生着。我猜在中国实际发生的事情是，他们对于他们的芯片和系统漏洞有着更多的数据信息。同样，美国对自己生产的芯片也是非常了解的。至于美国对中国的声明，我猜这是美国在对中国的电子产品施压，是他们对华贸易战的一部分……对此，中国方面最终也会做出类似的回应……写的太乱了。稍微澄清一下……我不是说任何芯片都有权限访问硬件系统为所欲为的，我这里说的是那些被动过手脚的芯片。

Ahmad Zabidi
First the Russians now China next...Santa Claus cyber attack from north pole. Because those LGBT christians are not calling up santa claus no more.

先是俄罗斯，现在是中国，接下来呢……圣诞老人从北极对美国进行网络攻击，为啥呢，因为这些LGBT的基督徒不再召唤圣诞老人了。



Zehuti écoeuré
Microsoft is a big spyware, lol

微软也是一个大的间谍软件，哈哈

anger & rage
@Jacky tang all countries everybody spies on each other. It's funny how the US totally forgot about them spying on European diplomats in heads of states, I find that interesting.

每个国家都在互相监视着。搞笑的是，美国完全忘记了他们曾监视过欧洲的外交官和国家元首，我觉得这非常有意思。

Richard Henry
One thing we know from history the USA lies. So what if the Chiness are successful that’s the goal lol

根据历史经验，我们得知一件事情，那就是美国爱说谎。如果中国人真的成功做了这件事，那就真是射门得分了，哈哈哈



tom Dobyns
My guess is that what you say will happen. China has pooped in it's nest.

我觉得你说的会发生的。中国自己内部已经是黔驴技穷了。

Green Peace
Interesting, China has been making cellphones for US for years now and they just happen to discover it now? How convenient and fishy!

有趣的是，中国多年来一直为美国生产手机，现在碰巧被发现了吗？时机有些可疑啊！

Garry H
And china has also supplied for the military ...

中国也为美国军队提供零件……

Mark E
This is what you get a group of Liberal Art, communication and Government majors in the same room and try to come up a conspiracy against somebody.

这事儿看起来，就像一群文科专业、传播学专业和政府管理专业的学生，在房间里捏造一个阴谋反对某人的事情。



Joseph
Haven't we established through the case of ZTE that China could not make micro chips? If China did not make them, then who did?

我们通过中兴的例子，不是已经确定中国无法制造微型芯片的吗？如果中国没法制造，那又是谁制造的呢？

I'm sorry, I need to poo poo.
You know the CIA put those chips there so they can blame it on a foreign state.

你要知道，中情局把这些芯片推给中国，然后他们就可以谴责一个外国国家了。

Joseph
Apple is known to be uncooperative to US authorities, maybe NSA or CIA installed those chips for them.

众所周知，苹果公司可是不配合美国当局的。可能是美国国安局或者中情局替他们安装了这些芯片。

I'm sorry, I need to poo poo.
Yup. it could be the NSA too. I do remember when the Government ask Apple to create a backdoor so they can access data. I won't be surprise if the NSA implanted those chips to spy on Americans.

没错，也可能是国安局干的。我还记得，之前美国政府曾要求苹果公司制造一个软件后门，方便他们查阅信息。如果国安局植入这些芯片监视美国人的话，我也就不感到奇怪了。



Michael LeBlanc
Decouple, another euphemism, for a ban, to isolate the USA from China's influence. Sounds like this administration wants the USA to become an isolationist country. We are small in the economic war of today, the USA GNP is less than 25% of the world's GNP today. our influence is waining in the economic realm. Remember, for a company to prosper it needs customers. China, India, and the continent of Africa have billions of people each. A much bigger market potential to tap into. We have to trade with the world to grow and prosper or we will end up only having the US market to sell too.

说的委婉点，美国就是想跟中国隔离开来，不受中国的影响嘛。听起来，这届政府想让美国成为一个孤立主义的国家啊。在当今世界的经济竞争中，我们美国的份额越来越小了，现在美国的国民生产总值还不到全世界的25%。在经济领域，我们美国的影响力在逐渐下降。要记住，一家公司要想生意兴隆，就得有客户。中国、印度、非洲大陆，每个都有着十多亿人口。我们要进入潜力更大的市场，为了发展和繁荣，我们必须得和世界做生意，否则我们最终只能在美国本土市场上自娱自乐。

Why this kolaveri di
Google and Facebook are the biggest spies

谷歌和Facebook是世界上最大的间谍。

- Eth
Chinese girls prefer western men because they say Chinese guys are too feminine and they have micropenises.

中国的女孩更喜欢西方的男人，她们说中国男人太阴柔了，鸡鸡也小。

David Lee
Wonder if it's US not wanting to sell crude oil to China or is China stop buying from US. If it is the former then it is fair for China to turn elsewhere, like Venezuela, Iran, Russia. If its the latter it will pique the US more.

好想知道，是美国不愿意卖石油给中国，还是中国停止进口美国的石油。如果是前者，那中国无所谓，可以买其他地方的石油，例如委内瑞拉、伊朗和俄罗斯。如果是后者，那无疑会更加刺激美国。



Douglas Ineson
Show the proof!

证据呢？

Zalashji
The US cries victim as it stabs the rest of the world in the back. Sounds familiar. The puppet learns from the master.

美国当面哭喊自己是受害者，实际上背后捅全世界的刀子。熟悉的配方。提线木偶也学到主人的真传了。

Сергей Гец
The notion that the US is a state outcast is fixed in the minds of the whole world. About 70% of 100% of Earth’s countries hate the United States. About 55% of 100% of the world's population hates the United States. just a fact

在全世界的脑海中，美国是一个被驱逐的国家。全世界有70%的国家讨厌美国。全世界有50%的人口厌恶美国。这是事实。

Doginu
Your Tariffs are raising prices on everything I buy, so pull your head out Clown....

你的关税提高了我买东西的价格，所以，小丑，把你的头伸出来……

Wealthon Ngo
Trump's imagination! Making up ridiculous, malicious accusations. Crazy ignorant

川普的想象力啊！编造荒谬恶毒的指责。真是疯狂无知啊。



XIVDALAILAMA
If there was no China to blame, will these Evangelical Christian Zionists start blaming God?

如果中国没责任的话，这些福音派的基督教犹太复国主义者会责怪上帝吗？

Chasing Vega
XIVDALAILAMA if trump told them Jesus had chemical weapons or was hacking their Facebook they would abandon Jesus and their Christianity to follow trump. They have done it to every single person or country that trump has turned his back on so far.

如果川普告诉他们，耶稣携带化学武器或者正在黑进他们的Facebook，他们肯定会抛弃耶稣和基督教，一心追随川普的。他们对每个人、每个国家都是这么做的，迄今为止，川普已经背弃了很多国家。

XIVDALAILAMA
Amen.

阿门

olivia transit
XIVDAALAMA,, The Russians of course .. . . .

当然是俄国人啦……

XIVDALAILAMA
Yes of course, followed by the DPRK, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, and then Reptilians.

是的，当然啦，接下来就会怪罪朝鲜、伊朗、委内瑞拉、古巴，还有爬虫似的外星人。

Дон Харис
Like the US has never hacked anything in China.

说的好像美国从没黑进过中国的任何东西。

Allen Qian
Next Spider Man hacked Trump's computer If he got re-elected he defeated China, if he lost China intervene.If he elected Russians helped, if he lost Hilary fucked him up Trump: Right I did nothing wrong like Hitler

下一步，蜘蛛侠黑进了川普的电脑。如果川普再次当选，那就是他打败了中国；如果川普落选了，那就是中国介入了美国的大选。就像之前的大选，他选上了，俄罗斯帮助的；他没选上，希拉里搞的鬼。川普就像希特勒一样：没错，我从没做过错事。

Hanif Issa
And American monopoly on software platforms is completely free of backdoor spying capabilities. HONEST, it is!!

美国垄断了软件平台，拥有随意监视的能力。说实话吧，确实是这样！

LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA
Of course pence China don’t want tariffs and democrats will not impose any that is why China is looking to get democratic president 2020

好吧，彭斯。中国不想美国加征关税，民主党也不想征，这就是中国希望民主党赢得2020年总统大选的原因。



I'm sorry, I need to poo poo.
So basically the story is:
US Government: Amazon told us China implanted spying chips on our servers.
Amazon: No we did not.
US Government: Did I say Amazon? I meant Apple.
Apple: No, no such thing occur.
LOL

故事基本上是这样的：
美国政府：亚马逊告诉我们，中国在我们的服务器中植入了间谍芯片。
亚马逊：没有，我没说。
美国政府：我有说亚马逊吗？我是说苹果。
苹果：没有，没有这样的事。
哈哈哈