美国对中国钢铁发起窃取商业机密调查 [美国媒体]

华盛顿/上海(路透社)- 美国监管部门星期四启动关于美国钢铁公司举报的中国竞争者在最近的一次贸易纠纷中盗取其机密并定价一事的调查。美国网友:很多年了,因为饥渴政客的包庇,美国的钢铁工业已经在生产效率上落后于国际竞争者。再和外国竞争者比的话就像块腐肉,哪怕像墨西哥这种国家都赢不了。


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WASHINGTON/SHANGHAI (Reuters) - U.S. regulators on Thursday launched an investigation into complaints by United States Steel Corp that Chinese competitors stole its secrets and fixed prices in the latest trade spat between the two countries.

华盛顿/上海(路透社)- 美国监管部门星期四启动关于美国钢铁公司举报的中国竞争者在最近的一次贸易纠纷中盗取其机密并定价一事的调查。

The International Trade Commission (ITC) said in a statement that it has not made any decisions on the merits of the case.

国际贸易委员会(ITC)称其还未就此事作出任何决定。

U.S. Steel in its complaint under section 337 of the main U.S. tariff law is seeking to halt nearly all imports from China's largest steel producers and trading houses.

美国钢铁在其投诉中就美国关税法第337款下寻求停止几乎所有从中国几个最大钢铁生产商与贸易公司的进口。

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The commission identified 40 Chinese steel makers and distribution subsidiaries as respondents including Baosteel Group Hebei Iron and Steel Group Wuhan Iron and Steel Co Ltd <600005.SS> Maanshan Iron and Steel Group <600808.SS> Anshan Iron and Steel Group and Jiangsu Shagang Group.

该委员会确定了40家钢铁厂家及其销售子公司作为调查对象,包括河北宝山钢铁厂,武汉钢铁厂,马鞍山钢铁厂,鞍山钢铁集团和江苏沙钢集团。

The probe comes amid a barrage of efforts by the U.S. Commerce Department to clamp down on a glut of Chinese steel imports including steep anti-dumping duties on corrosion-resistant steel announced on Wednesday.

而在这个调查进行的同时,美国商务部也采取了一系列措施来抑制过量的中国钢铁进口,包括周三所宣布的对耐蚀钢征收高额的反倾销税。


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Polarity 45 minutes ago
well... I don't understand how Idiotic these companies are There are No Smart people working in their offices that can unplug their computers from the Internet?? Do they know how Hackers can access their data if they don't put it out there? Same with the gov't UNPLUG YOUR COMPUTERS ! Or BUILD A Freaking FIREWALL THAT CAN"T BE HACKED! Geez Idiotic. No one's going around to these companies telling them to UNPLUG! If they can't get to it then they can't steal it! No Balls in the Gov't to ban tax or stand up to Business!

嗯... 我都不理解那些公司为什么那么傻。公司里没聪明人知道拔网线吗??他们知不知道不拔网线黑客会攻击的呀?政府也一样傻不拉几不拔网线!要么就建个可以防黑客的防火墙!真是傻X。不会有人去叫他们拔网线的!要是中国人没法接触到,那他们也就偷不到!政府不敢禁止税收,也不敢和大企业对抗。

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grandude 1 hour ago
In 2011 I met a man who had an automatic door business in a small city I was visiting. He was hoping to get someone in America to work for him. His plan was to send the doors to America then market them in China as made in the USA so he could sell them for more money. So if they can cheat each other with a good conscience they certainly have no problem cheating the rest of the world by any means available. When caught they just follow the lead of their govenment leaders LIE! "It isn't wrong. Everybody does it." As I was told more than once by Chinese who wanted me/a foreign business partner. It's unbelievably common to see all kinds of products claiming to be from the US besides those fakes bearinng famous brand names.

在2011年时,我去一个小城市的时候碰到个做自动门的中国人。他想找个美国人帮他。他计划先把做好的门运到美国,然后再运回中国,这样就可以贴上“美国制造”的标签卖更多钱。要是他们能这样正大光明的作弊那骗全世界都不是问题。要是被抓了,他们就躲在政府的谎话后面!“没错呀!人人都这样做。”我自己和其他人也被很多中国人邀请过。现在除了那些出名的假的山寨名牌外,这类假“美国制造”也是异乎寻常的多。

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Milo 4 hours ago
Ask any machinist what he thinks of Chinese metals.

 去问问任何一个机械师,问他怎么看中国的金属。
 
thanh michael 1 hour ago
The USA will win the war if China's economic collapse.

 如果中国经济垮了,美国就能赢得战争。
 
yuio 5 hours ago
If people could realize how corrupt the Chinese are they would ban imports from there.

 如果人们意识到中国有多腐败,他们就会停止从那里进口商品。
 
zababafool 2 hours ago
@ Y Corrupt ??? US is the most corrupted country in this Planet . Who are you trying to lie too ??? Yourself ???

 @Y 腐败???美国是这个星球上最腐败的国家,你在对谁撒谎???你自己吗???
 
Luster 1 hour ago
@Zababafool You should honestly get out of your Chinese military bunker once in a while and drink the same water your civilians do. Your government is an absolute joke.

@Zababafool  你真应该偶尔走出中国军事城堡,喝喝你们市民喝的水。你那政府就是个笑话。

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zababafool 1 hour ago
@ L Water ??? you mean like Flint water that is contaminated with lead ?? How many congressman child abuser that are in jailed for Child abuse ?? How many counties that your gov.t invaded based on lies ?? Didn't your Govt. stole the lower 48 states Hawaii and Diego Garcia ?? You should LOOK into that mirror of yours coz it NEEDS to be CLEANED UP !! Ignorant white Murican !

 @L 水???你说那些被铅污染的燧石水吗??有几个国会大人的孩子因为儿童施虐而被判儿童施虐罪入狱的??你们政府通过谎言入侵了多少国家??你们政府没在成立48州后继续偷占夏威夷和迪戈加西亚吗??你们应该照照自己的镜子,因为它该擦擦了!!自大的白美国佬!
 
I Did Not Do It! 1 hour ago
BET YOU SHOP AT "WALMART THE MADE IN CHINA STORE"!

你们绝对去过“沃尔玛--中国制造”商城!

zababafool 1 hour ago
@ Y Why are you Blaming China for America's DEMISED ??? The problem with US workers are NOT well educated !! US ranks 38th in Math and Science among industrial countries ! Why do you think there's about 70000 H-1B workers in the US ?? US does NOT have the brain power to compete and are over paid ! I 'm just curious are you
college grad ?? If NOT thats your problem !!! NOT China !

@Y 为什么你们都在因为美国的让位而怪中国???美国工人的问题是没文化!!在工业国家中美国在数学科技领域排名38位!你们觉得为什么有70000名拿着工作签证的外国工人在美国??因为美国头脑不发达做不了而且高薪低能!我就是好奇你们是大学毕业生吗??要是不是,那是你们的问题!!!不是中国的问题!

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I Did Not Do It! 56 minutes ago
BUY AMERICAN ONLY!!!

 只买美国货!!!
 
OneFrozenMigra 2 hours ago
I am sure if there is wrong doing Hillary and BJ Clinton will be involved at some level. America didn't forget the deal(s) made by BJ as POTUS with the Chinese. How he sold them our secrets. They would still be trying to put things into space had it not been for them buying the Clintons.

 我肯定希拉里和比尔克林顿绝对在一定程度上做错了。美国不会忘记比尔克林顿作为美国总统和中国人做的交易。他出卖我们的秘密给中国人。要是中国人没能买通克林顿的话,他们现在还在刚刚尝试步入太空。
 
Michael Wan 1 hour ago
For years the American steel industry has lagged behind the production efficiency of its international competitors protected by the vote hungry politicians. It will become a dead meat when meeting the foreign competitors even from Mexico.

很多年了,因为饥渴政客的包庇,美国的钢铁工业已经在生产效率上落后于国际竞争者。再和外国竞争者比的话就像块腐肉,哪怕像墨西哥这种国家都赢不了。

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M 4 hours ago
Just another example of US hypocrisy.
It's all OK when the US dominates markets but when others do the same it's always "dumping" or fraudulent.
Costs of steel production are FAR lower than US steel production costs which allows them to sell cheaper. THAT is market forces at work. But the US only champions "market forces" when it results in an advantage to the US.
Apple makes i-devices in China because it's cheaper but because it's a US company that's OK.
When a US company makes cheap products in China that's OK but if it was a Chinese company that made the same product and sold it in the US cheaper than the same "made in USA" product the US industry would claim "dumping" rather than bow to market forces.
The US is effectively running a "communist" form of capitalism !

这又是个美国假仁假义的例子。
要是美国主宰市场那就没问题,但要是别人主宰了,那就总是“倾销”或欺诈。
和美国的钢材生产成本相比,那些钢材生产成本便宜太多,所以才卖的便宜。这是市场因素在起作用。但美国只在结果对美国自己有利时才给予“市场因素”头衔。
苹果在中国生产苹果产品不光是因为便宜,更是因为那是家美国企业,所以没问题。
当美国企业在中国生产便宜产品时没问题,但要是中国企业生产同样的产品再卖到美国,还比同样的“美国制造”产品便宜的话,就会被称为“倾销”,而不会说成市场因素。
美国基本上运作的是“共产主义”特色的资本主义。

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Gus Fusco 2 hours ago
What does that have to do with China stealing intellectual property from an American company ?... The Chinese are thieves and should be punished for their crimes..

 这和中国从美国企业偷知识产权有什么联系?...中国人是小偷,应该为他们的罪行受惩罚...
 
Fólkvangr 2 hours ago
Damn the truth hurts!

 操,事实令人不爽!
 
M 2 hours ago
The IP "theft" is just a bogus excuse for sanctions.
There is not a single innovation made by German and Japanese steelmakers that US steelmakers haven't used in their manufacturing processes.

 “小偷”头衔只是个制裁的虚伪借口。
德国,日本的钢铁制造者也没什么创新,美国的钢铁业也没有用他们的生产方式。
 
grandude 2 hours ago
M(ao lover) is only doing what his masters pay him to do. Dishonesty is what the CCP has bred.

 那个ID是 M的(毛的粉丝)就是在做他擅长的工作。中共所孕育的就是虚伪。
 
Gus Fusco 2 hours ago
M is a paid troll for the Chinese propaganda machine

 M 是个中国五毛坑货。

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Dan 4 hours ago
Just another reason to support Trump. He will not tolerate China's steel and other import trade deals. America first!! Make America Great Again!! Vote Trump in November.

又多了个支持川普的理由。他不会容忍中国的钢铁和其它进口订单的。美国第一!! 让美国再次伟大(川普竞选口号)!! 11月份投川普。
 
Gus Fusco 2 hours ago
The Chinese are thieves and should be punished for their crimes.. Trump 2016

中国人是小偷,应该因他们的罪而受罚... 2016选川普 
 
rodger 1 hour ago
And . . . . Chinese stainless steel rusts!!

 而且...中国的不锈钢会生锈!!
 
ge 2 hours ago
U.S. Steel still making steel. I thought they make most of their money from their energy sector since 2000. Is there any secret left?

 美国钢铁业还在造钢。我想自2000年起,他们赚的绝大部分钱来源于能源行业。有什么秘密吗?
 
Unit731 39 minutes ago
so? this is benefit the usa business and the loser is = usa consumers....

 那又怎么样?受益的是美国商业,受伤的是美国顾客...
 
zababafool 2 hours ago
US steel is blaming China for their INEPTITUDE and INCOMPETENCE ! Little do they know that it's far cheaper and more efficient than the US !

 美国钢铁业抱怨中国因为他们自己的低能无力!他们根本就不知道中国的钢铁和美国比超便宜而且产得快多了。
 
Human 2 hours ago
China is too selfish in market economy.

 中国在市场经济中太自私。

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