中国人对“2020年越南加入中国”的说法有何看法? [美国媒体]

What do the Chinese think of the conspiracy theorythat Vietnam will join China in 2020?

中国人对“2020年越南加入中国”的说法有何看法?

Rainnie Tang, 23 years as a Chinese
Answered Dec 8, 2015
No.Even if Vietnam want to joinin China, I am afraid Chinese government and Chinese people will say no.
1. First of all, we have nointention to expand our land at all.
2. China is a developing country andhas its own task to fulfill. It is a hard and long-term process fightingpoverty and developing economy, because China is a country with large land areaand popularity. Managing such a big country is also a huge challenge for thegovernment, so the CPC did make achievements in these past years, and withoutthe policies of CPC China would not become what it is today, even if there aresome problem along with. There are many issues remaining to be solved in China,which the government is busy with. Therefor, adding one more district intoChina will do no good but driving the government crazy. They have no moreenergy for the management.
3. Vietnam people have differentculture, which I mean totally different. And it seems that Vietnam and Chinahad few connection in history. So even if the two countries integrate, culturaldifferences will arouse conflicts. Aware of the underlying conflicts, Chinesegovernment will never agree with the integration.

不。
即使越南想加入中国，我担心中国和中国人民会说不。
1. 首先，我们根本无意扩张我们的土地。

2. 中国是一个发展中国家，有自己的任务要完成。中国是一个幅员辽阔、人口众多的国家，消除贫困、发展经济是一个长期而艰苦的过程。管理一个如此大的国家对政府来说也是一个巨大的挑战，CCP在过去几年确实取得了成就，如果没有CCP的政策，即使伴随着一些问题，中国也不会成为今天的中国。在中国，还有许多问题需要解决，而政府正忙于解决这些问题。因此，在中国再增加一个行政区，除了让政府发疯，没有任何好处。他们没有精力去管理。

3. 越南人有不同的文化，我的意思是完全不同。似乎越南和中国在历史上没有什么联系。所以即使两国融合，文化差异也会引发冲突。意识到潜在的冲突，中国永远不会同意这种融合。

Hung. Nguyen Van, Vietnamese
Answered Dec 8, 2016
No, I don’t think this will gonnahappen.
We, the Vietnamese, in the meantime is a very young generation. What we would like to do is improving ourcountry by developing our culture, economic, environment,…. and life standard.
China has a long history, stronggeneration, and a bunch of trouble need to be solved.
Both are different and shouldfocus on each other problem, merging is just a made-up story by someanti-communist people. Some may think about merging, or even a war but most ofyoung people do not. We don’t need and I think the Chinese people will agree.
So many things happened in historythat somewhat destroyed our past relationship, history taught us how bad Chinais, and how did we fight against China when they conquer our homeland, so wemostly didn’t like China by education, and I was the same. Then we grew up andInternet showed up, we learn things that were not in Government’s book, wediscover more knowledge and fact, and we know how bad Communist is, but weaccept it as a mistake and will try to improve other things instead of keeptalking about politics, or fighting against Communist party.
I had worked with some Chinacompanies and their engineers. They was so nice, intelligent and friendly, wecan work, talk, and chit chat together without any problem, and I like themvery much.
The thing is, instead of keephating each other by what happened in the past or non-exist story people keeptelling you, we can act as 2 independent countries, we can be friend, we canwork, travel to each other’s country, just like the way we treat every countryin the world. Make friend, do not make war.

不，我不认为这会发生。
我们越南人，同时也是非常年轻的一代。我们想做的是通过发展我们的文化改善我们的国家,经济,环境,....和生活标准。
中国拥有悠久历史，强大的一代人，也有一大堆自己的麻烦事儿需要解决。
两者都是不同的，应该关注彼此的问题，吞并只是一些反对分子编造的故事。

有些人可能会考虑合并，甚至一场战争，但大多数年轻人不会。我们不需要，我想中国人民会同意的。
历史上发生了那么多的事情，在某种程度上摧毁了我们过去的关系，历史告诉我们中国有多糟糕，当他们征服我们的家园时，我们是如何对抗中国的，所以由于教育我们大多不喜欢中国，我也是一样。
然后我们长大了,互联网出现,我们学到的东西没有在政府的书中,我们发现更多的知识和事实,我们知道GC主义有多糟糕,但是我们接受了这个错误,然后试图改善其他事情,而不是继续谈论政治,或反对GC党。



HongtaoZhang, ManchuChinese From Tangshan.
Answered Dec 9, 2015
This is totallyimpossible, unless Vietnam succeed to conquer China.
Let's review that,in history, How did Five Parts(Han,Zang,Meng,Hui,Man)join China?
Han: They are main part of China.
Meng(Mongol): They conquered China.
Man(Manchu): They conquered China, too.
Zang(Tibet): They tried to conquer China, and succeed to burnChinese Capital, Chang'an, twice. Although they failed, they succeeded to forceChinese princess, Princess Wencheng, to marry their BtsanPo(King).
Hui(Muslim): Northwest is a part of China since Han Dynasty,couple thousand years ago. Ancestors of Chinese Muslims were refugees andimmigrants from Persia, Mongolian Plateau, West&Central Asia. So that, Theydidn't join China, but migrated to China.
Therefore if you want to join China, please conquer China or force Chineseprincess to marry your King at last. But there is no princess in China, so Ithink nobody could do it.

这是完全不可能的事情，除非越南成功征服中国。让我们回顾一下，在历史上，五个部分(汉、藏、蒙、回、满)是如何加入中国的?
汉：他们是中国的主体。
蒙：他们征服了中国。
满：他们也征服了中国。
藏：他们试图征服中国，也成功烧毁了中国首都长安，而且两次。然而他们还是失败了，他们成功逼迫中国的文成公主嫁给松赞干布（王）。
回：西北自2000年前的汉朝以来就是中国的一部分，中国穆斯林的祖先是来自波斯/蒙古高原/西亚/中亚的难民和移民。也就是说他们没曾加入过中国但移民来了中国。
因此，如果你想加入中国，请征服中国或强迫中国公主嫁给你的国王。但是中国没有公主，所以我认为没有人能做到。



Zhang Zhiheng
Nov 12, 2015 · 1 upvote
Well, I do like to see the data according to arableland. But it's also out of date to define whether a land is arable or not. Havea look at Isarel which land is mainly desert but still manage to feed theirpeople by domestic supply. Arable or not nowadays really depends on how manycost you are willing to pay to convert unarable to arable. We could find a lotof examples in Middle East oil rich countries where with the technology thischange happened.

嗯，我确实喜欢看可耕种土地的数据。但是，定义一个土地是否可耕种是过时的。看看以色列吧，那里的土地主要是沙漠，但仍然通过国内供应来养活自己的人民。现在可耕地与否真的取决于你愿意付出多少代价才能把非可耕地变成可耕地。
我们可以在中东石油丰富的国家找到很多例子，在这些国家，随着技术的发展，这种变化发生了。



Anonymous
Answered Nov 13, 2016
I get sick of all the stupidconspiracy theories people spout off on the internet , this conspiracy theoryis b.s no more no less :
Even if our govt says we mustjoin China , the people will say NO and we will burned and hang them for betrayingthe ancestors and the land .
Mountains and Rivers of the SouthernCountry
The mountains and rivers that carved thesouthern empire,
dwelled by the Southern Emperor.
Its sovereignty is of nature's will andis allotted in script from the heaven book.
If these invaders dare trespass They'regoing to get a huge beating
China don’t need Vietnam and Vietnamdon’t need China , that’all. Ofcourse we want to be friend with anyone !

我讨厌互联网上那些愚蠢的阴谋论，这个阴谋论是太愚蠢了：
即使我们的政府说我们必须加入中国，人民也会说不，我们会把他们烧死，因为他们背叛了祖先和土地。



南国山河南帝居，
皇天已定在天书。
如何北虏来侵掠，
白刃翻成破竹余。
中国不需要越南，越南也不需要中国，仅此而已。当然，我们想和任何人做朋友!

Mark Bellows, I know something about theinternational relations in Asia
Updated Jan 2, 2016
It is NOT possible, not at all.
I'm an overseas Chinese born inSoutheast Asia and a PhD student in International relations. I visited Chinamainland many times. As far as I know, most China citizens don't care aboutSoutheast Asia, not at all.
So let's assume that Vietnamesecommunist government would sell Vietnam in 2020. And the conversation would belike this:
V: Hey China, I want tosell myself to you.
C: Go away.
V: Why? Do you hate me?
C: No. But Just go away.
According to my experience communicating with PRC Chinese,that's the most probable way of the PRC Chinese's reactions for this question.

这是不可能的，一点也不可能。
我是一名在东南亚出生的华侨，是国际关系专业的博士生。我去过中国大陆很多次。据我所知，大多数中国公民并不关心东南亚，一点也不关心
假设越南政府会在2020年出售越南。对话是这样的:

越：嘿中国，我想要把我卖给你。
中：滚远点。
越：为什么？你讨厌我？
中：不。单纯就是滚远点。
根据我与中国人民的交流经验，这是中国人民对这个问题最可能的反应方式。



Xinyang Li, Medic; Native Chinese; Chu nomself-learner.
Answered Jul 16, 2017
I am in Chengdu for the recent 7years, but I have never heard of that.BTW, I just broke up with my Vietnamesegirlfriend who went to pubs for one night stands without letting me know. So Ido not want this joint happen, because I do not want to see her anymore. (I amnot saying that every Vietnamese are as bad as her but I have sufficient evidenceof what she did behind me)Collapse this stupid answer from a heart-brokenidiot.

我在成都已经7年了，但是我从来没有听说过。
顺便说一下，我刚和我的越南女朋友分手了，她去酒吧一夜情却不让我知道。所以我不想让这事发生，因为我不想再见到她了。(我不是说每个越南人都和她一样坏，但我有足够的证据证明她在我背后做了什么)
让这个愚蠢的答案从一个心碎的白痴那里消散最好。

Can Zhang, B.A. in Chinese Culture
Answered Oct 31, 2015 · Upvoted by LuizGiaconi, Foreing Relations and Politics postgraduate
Haveyou read the Vietnamese history textbooks?
It goes from "Resisting the QinDynasty" to "Resisting the Han Dynasty" to "Resisting theJin Dynasty" to ... you get the point.
This country is about the last one on Earththat would willingly join China. I'd bet on the United States joining Chinabefore Vietnam.

你有读过越南的历史书吗？
它从“抵抗秦朝”，到“抵抗汉朝”，再到“抵抗晋朝”再到……后面的你也知道了。
这个国家大概是地球上最后一个愿意加入中国的国家。我打赌美国在越南之前加入中国。

Lance Chen, Chinese studying in the U.S.and Singapore - Trigger warning included
Answered Dec 8, 2016
While I have met exactly ONEVietnamese who think VN should join China, I hope no one in China or Vietnamgenuinely believe it is true since it is just too ridiculous especially givenhow the current VN government is being hostile towards PRC.

虽然我遇到过一个认为越南应该加入中国的越南人，但我希望在中国或越南没有人真正相信这是真的，因为这太荒谬了，尤其是考虑到越南政府对中国的敌意。



LiuYang, AChinese junior EHS
Answered Dec 8, 2016
I think this question isgenerated by weired people who want to make conflicts between China andVietnam.

我感觉提出这个问题的人就是一群想要中越之间发生冲突的人。

Li-GengTian,lives in Whitehorse, Yukon Canada
Answered Oct 31, 2015
neverheard of it. why would Chinese government want Vietnam, when the populationdoes not identify itself as Chinese?

从来没有听说过这个。为何在这群人并不认同自己是中国人的情况下，中国zf想要越南？

BansonChong,Passionate about Dr Suns "Three Principals for the People".
Answered Oct 31, 2015
Ridiculousproposition. As likely as mating probability of a zebra and a pig.

荒谬的议题。就跟斑马和猪交配的概率一样。

NeoAlbert,studied at Methodist Boys' School Kuala Lumpur
Answered Apr 10, 2017
Vietnam to start first with onecountry two systems and after 50 years full integration with China…can beapplied to Koreas, Mongolia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan & other neighboringcountries…

越南先从“一国两制”开始，经过50年与中国的全面融合，可适用于朝鲜、蒙古、哈萨克斯坦、吉尔吉斯斯坦等周边国家…………