一个可能充满罗马军团后代的中国省份 [美国媒体]

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Around 36 BCE Chinese forces from the Han Dynasty fought a group of rebels called Xiongnu at a fortress in what is now Kazakhstan.

公元前36年汉朝军队在今天哈萨克斯坦地区的一个堡垒抗击一股匈奴叛军。

During the battle the Chinese noticed their enemy employed a strange but distinctive formation. One historian at the battle recalled a unit that formed a unique “fish-scale“-style of protection using their shields.

在这场战斗中中国军队注意到他们的敌人使用了一支很奇怪但是很有特色的方阵。一位经历过这场战斗的史官在记录中写到一支队伍用他们的盾牌组成了鱼鳞状的保护阵型。

Some modern historians think that “fish scale” was a Roman phalanx.

一些现代史学家认为“鳞斑”阵型是一种罗马方阵。

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The “Testudo” (turtle) formation of a Roman phalanx performed by re-enactors. (photo by Neil Carey)

由复演者扮演的“龟甲“形罗马方阵。（图片：尼尔·凯里）

The battle took place in a city that was once known as Liqian now a part of Gansu province in Northern China. And strangely people living where the old city once stood are known to have interesting genetic traits unlike people in the rest of the country.

战斗发生在一个曾叫作骊轩的城市，现在是中国北方甘肃省的一部分。这片古城屹立过的地方生活着一些奇怪的人，他们的遗传性状与其它中国人不一样，令人感兴趣，从而为世人所知。

Aqualine noses green eyes and fair skin are just a few of the features found among the villagers of Zhelaizhai where the ancient city once stood.

鹰勾鼻子，绿色的眼睛，白皙的皮肤只是在者来寨村民身上发现的少数特征，者来寨曾是古城屹立之处。

Some historians believe the people of Zhelaizhai are descended from the Roman Legionaries who fought with the Han Chinese.

一些历史学家认为，者来寨人是曾与汉军作战的罗马军团后裔。

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Just 17 years before the battle in Kazakhstan Parthians fighting the Romans at the Battle of Carrhae (in modern-day Turkey) delivered one of Rome’s most crushing defeats. They captured 10000 legionnaires and sent the powerful Roman General Marcus Licinius Crassus packing (parts of him anyway).

这次战斗距哈萨克斯坦帕提亚人与罗马人在卡莱（今土耳其小镇）打响战役仅17年之后，卡莱战役成为罗马帝国最惨烈的败仗之一。帕提亚人俘虏了10000名罗马军团士兵，并把强大的罗马将军马库斯·李锡尼·克拉苏捆成了棕子（至少他的一部分）。

Parthians were known to use captured soldiers as border guards and sent their POWs to the Far East where escape was all but impossible. That Far East outpost is thought by some to be the ancient area of Liqian.

据传帕提亚人用俘虏作为边防军，并把他们的战俘派遣到远东，在那里逃脱是几乎不可能的。那片远东前哨基地被一些人认为是骊轩古地区。

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Nowadays the Gobi Desert border regions are full of ethnically Chinese people whose DNA tested 58% Caucasian.

如今的戈壁滩沙漠边境地区满是中国少数民族，他们的DNA经测试有58%是白人。

The theory does have naysayers. Some believe the DNA could be the result of contact from Silk Road trading between Rome and the Far East. Others say Caucasian Huns and warriors with other racial backgrounds fought through this area of Asia at the time.

该理论确实有反对者。有些人认为DNA可能是罗马和远东地区之间经丝绸之路贸易联系的结果。还有人说，高加索匈奴当时在亚洲这片区域和其他种族背景的战士打仗。

At least one expert believes there just isn’t enough physical evidence to say these Chinese are descended from Roman legionaries.

至少有一位专家认为，没有足够的实物证据说明这些中国人起源于罗马军团。

“For it to be indisputable one would need to find items such as Roman money or weapons that were typical of Roman legionaries” Maurizio Bettini an anthropologist from Siena University told La Repubblica. “Without proof of this kind the story of the lost legions is just a legend.”

“因为只有找到诸如罗马钱币或者典型的罗马军团武器之类的物品，才能说是无可争议的”来自锡耶纳大学的人类学家莫里吉奥.贝蒂尼告诉共和报 “如果没有这类证据，消失的军团的故事仅仅是一个传说。”


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Andrei Kornievski · Kingsborough Community College · 21 hrs
Yep Sarmatians mix....

是的，萨尔玛提亚联盟。
（Sarmatian，萨尔玛提亚，位于西徐亚/斯基泰（Scythians）西部的一个多部落联盟，公元前512年这个名字首见于史书，属印欧语系民族。鼎盛时期，其部落分布在西到维斯瓦河和多瑙河、东到伏尔加河、北到希柏里尔、南到黑海和里海的区域内。在罗马帝国时期，罗马的军队中曾大量雇用萨尔马提亚人作为辅助骑兵征战四方，尤其是重骑兵。公元三世纪后， 萨尔马提亚人的势力开始衰落。在公元六世纪经已不视萨尔马提亚人为一个独立种族。）

Jason Moody · Toll Free Operations Manager at Mettel · 20 hrs 
Damn it if Lo Pan finds out about this we're all screwed.

该死，如果Lopan发现这件事我们就完蛋了。
（Lo pan，1986年美国电影《妖魔大闹唐人街》里的大反派，一个在秦始皇时代被封印的巫师。）

Chris Williamson · Works at National Oilwell Varco · 16 hrs 
Not if old Jack has anything to say about it.

除非老杰克对此有话要说。
（杰克·伯顿，1986年美国电影《妖魔大闹唐人街》主角，因为未婚妻被巫师抓走，和唐人街的功夫高手朋友们一起打败了邪恶的巫师Lo pan）

Taylor Lee · 20 hrs 
I prefer my Greek and German ancestry.

我还是更喜欢我的希腊和德国血统。

Paul B Werner · 14 hrs 
Taylor Lee. Family tree dated 1472 on parchment hanging on my wall. Ziggenmeyer/Bethoven.

泰勒·李。挂在我墙上的羊皮纸家族树可以追溯到1472年。Ziggenmeyer/贝多芬家族。

Taylor Lee · 12 hrs
Nice.

不错。

Richard Clonce · Works at Oklahoma Department of Public Safety · 20 hrs 
There are a lot of books and movies about this concept out there.

已经有很多关于这种说法的书和电影了。

Keith Hanson · Jefferson Community College · 20 hrs 
It was my Nordic brothers

他们是我的北欧兄弟。

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Rodolfo Ruiz · 20 hrs
Tha Parthians didn't send Cassius "packing back to Rome" they cut that fool's head off.

帕提亚人并没有把卡西乌斯打包回罗马，他们砍了他的脑袋而已。

Robert Herr · Referent für politische Bildung at AStA der Uni Mainz · 20 hrs 
*Crassus *filled his mouth with gold

“卡西乌斯”在他的嘴里塞满了金子

Steve Umstead · Prone at Retired · 20 hrs 
If you cannot disprove it it could be true!

如果你无法反驳，那这就是真的咯！

Alice Smith · Parsons Senior High · 20 hrs 
58% DNA implies a lot more than the casual contact possible from Silk Road travelers. Good mystery!

58%的DNA意味着比丝路上偶然接触的可能性多很多。多么神秘！

Mac Pohl · 20 hrs
this legend still making the rounds but unverified

这个传说广为流传，但从未经证实。

Judson Bender · 20 hrs 
Like driving through Tikrit and seeing the children with blue eyes and red hair...we know where your daddy came from.

就好像驾车驶于提克里特，会看见好多蓝眸红发的小孩...我们可以知道他们的父辈来自何方！

Dan Fowler · 20 hrs 
The sky ;-)

天空 ;-)

Stephen Smith · 3 hrs
What did King David of Judah Look Like??? Fair & Reddish = Red Headed White Boy'.

犹太的大卫王看起来会是怎样的呢？？？白皙和微红=红发白人男孩？。

Schmidt Graham · Instruction Complicater at IRS · 38 mins
Race is a social construct tho
The parents decided to create red headed blue eyed asians

种族是一种社会结构，而红发蓝眸这样的亚洲人是源于其父母

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Judson Bender · 36 mins
Schmidt Graham If by decided you mean momma stepped out with ona them boys from the 1/73rd 82nd or 101st then yeah =P

回楼上如果是父母决定（红发蓝眸）的，那么意味着他妈和某个（罗马士兵）第73代、82代或者101代的孙辈小伙子出轨了^_^

Will Mesquita · Chicago Illinois · 33 mins 
Also Slavic women were well sought after as slaves in the middle east a few hundred years back. And let's not forget the Mamluk Dynasty who were predominantly southern Slavs.

数个世纪前，斯拉夫妇女在中东也是很热销的奴隶。我们也别忘了马穆鲁克王朝的建立者们主要是南方的斯拉夫人。

Eric Kemner · Senior Program Manager at Bresslergroup · 20 hrs 
Roman's never deployed a "phalanx" formation unless they may have possibly been using Greek or Macedonian auxiliaries. Their defensive formation was a testudo

罗马人从来不以方阵队形展开部署，除非他们有希腊或者马其顿仆从军一起行动。他们的防御队形是前置大盾保护。

Zach Hetu · Central Michigan University · 19 hrs 
Only against the Samnites but that was before they got out of Italy

只在针对萨摩奈人时用过，这还是在他们走出意大利之前的事了。

Eric Kemner · Senior Program Manager at Bresslergroup · 19 hrs 
True but that was back before they developed the typical "Roman" military tactics equipment and organization that won them their empire
对的，但这是在他们发展出经典罗马军团战术装备和组织方式以赢得他们自己的帝国之前的事情了。

（译者注：这个骊靬的罗马军团应该是个旅游项目的噱头，分子人类学已经证明了，当地男性DNA绝大多数与汉族的一致，少部分源自裕固族，与所谓欧洲Y染色体八杆子打不到一块儿去；看这种文章千万不要失去自我意识，个人感觉我们的自我意识很淡漠，或者说是异化了）

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Nick Certeza · El Paso Texas · 17 hrs 
A phalanx is nothing more than 3 or more men in tight formation with spears sticking out. The Romans always had spearmen and were the primary weapon until after the Punic wars or during the Iberian conquest. So of course Romans utilized the tactic if needed but it wasn't your Macedonian phalanx with the ridiculously long pikes. A testudo isnt a very good melee defense formation as it prevents counter attacking it's primarily a missile defense formation. Most spearmen tended to come from Gaul Celt Iberian and German regions where most men were already proficient in using spears. Greek manpower wasn't very large after the Roman conquest and centuries of warfare. Actually Greek combat had evolved to mimick Roman formations with looser formations lighter armor shorter spears and javelins.

方阵阵型不过是3个或者更多人挤在一起挺矛向前罢了。直到迦太基战争或者伊比利亚征服战之后，罗马人还一直都有长矛手。所以只要形势有需要，罗马人就会使用这种（方阵阵型）战术，而不是求助于你那些带着滑稽长戟的马其顿方阵。大盾阵型不利于短兵相接，这就是个主要用来防远程攻击的阵型。大多数的长矛手来自高卢、凯尔特、伊比利亚半岛和日耳曼地区，这些地方的大多数人都可以熟练地使用长矛。在罗马征服以及绵延数百年的战争之后，希腊的人力资源不是特别丰富。事实上，希腊的战斗方式源自对罗马阵型的模仿：阵型更散些、盔甲更轻些、矛（标枪）更短些。

Andrew Barker · Lubbock Texas · 19 hrs 
Except for that odd tribe. Is world is not pure anything in bloodline.

除了一些地处偏僻的部落，这个世界上的人们还真没什么纯血之说。

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Paul B Werner · 14 hrs 
Check out 'Human DNA'.

检查“人类DNA”

Paul B Werner · 8 hrs
A Tribe within the fillipene islands.

 fillipene群岛的一个部落。

Don Eskins · International Man of Mystery at None of Your Business · 19 hrs 
Hanky pankimus Maximus.......
不明其意……

Jay Glikman · Director International Sales at Gefen LLC · 18 hrs 
You get the prize for best answer 

你获得最佳答案奖

Lizzie Basara · 18 hrs
Perfect explanation :D

完美的解释：D

Neal Cunnington · 19 hrs 
I imagine some Roman legion Commander standing at the front of his column his brow furrowed shaking his compass.

我想像一些罗马军团指挥官站在队列前，眉头紧锁，晃动着罗盘。

Eric Letter · Works at Self-Employed · 18 hrs
The pharaohs had blue eyes and red hair.

法老们有蓝色的眼睛和红色的头发。

Rich Cash · Southern Illinois University Carbondale · 16 hrs
Those pharaohs were descended from Ptolomy one of Alexander's generals who took Egypt as his share of Alexander's empire after his death. They were Macedonian not Egyptian.

这些法老是亚历山大的一个将军Ptolomy（托勒密）的后人，在亚历山大死后他创建了托勒密王朝（托勒密埃及），是为亚历山大帝国的一分子。他们是马其顿人，不是埃及人。

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SusanElizabeth Osborn · Works at Retired · 16 hrs
Rich Cash According to tests run on the mummy of Seti I he had red hair and blue eyes--and one hell of a beak nose.

Rich Cash，根据在塞提一世木乃伊上所做试验，表明他有红头发和蓝眼睛，还有一个该死的鹰勾鼻。

Chris Leslie · Naval Postgraduate School · 18 hrs
I bet theres some truth to this. The old city name there LiQian sounds a lot like "Legion". 🕵🏼

我敢打赌这有一定的道理。古城骊靬（LiQian）的读音听起来很像“军团（Legion）”。

David Yu · Neurophysiologist at Advanced Nerve · 18 hrs 
Or can possibly be Russian decent as well

或者也可能是俄罗斯后裔

Brian Patrick Ward · Frankford High School · 18 hrs
It was the Persians not the Parthians and Crassus was shamed and beheaded.

是波斯人，不是帕提亚人，而且克拉苏被羞辱并斩头。

Francisco Areano · Owner at Self-Employed · 17 hrs
Craso that fool lost his legions to the parthians

克拉苏那个傻瓜使他的军团败给了帕提亚人。

Patrick Llanes Dumayas · Confidential at Kaiser Permanente · 17 hrs 
There were also stories of Amazons (Female Warriors) that used to live in a similar region of China... DNA testing is going on there too...

也有故事称阿玛宗女战士以前也居住在中国的类似区域（【希腊神话】阿玛宗(相传曾居住在黑海边的一族尚武善战的女战士中的一员)）…那里也在进行DNA测试…

Alex Birinyi · Sales Associate at Express · 13 hrs 
The Xiongnu are theorized to have been multi-ethnic to begin with the finno-ugric people may be related to them.

匈奴理论上一直是民族集团，可能与芬兰 - 乌戈尔语族有关联。

John Kevin Smith · Writer wannabe novelist. at Harper's War Stories · 9 hrs
How likely is it that Republican Romans had blue or green eyes and fair skin?

罗马共和国的人有蓝色或绿色的眼睛和白皮肤的可能性有多大？