中国比俄罗斯好么？ [美国媒体]

Is China better than Russia?

中国比俄罗斯好么？





Kavi Mazumdar, is learning Mandarin and knows a bit about China.Updated Nov 12, 2015
You must provide details. This is a very vague question. However, I'll provide some statistics and hopefully it'll help provide a clear picture. 

你要提供些细节，这是个很模糊的问题。但是我要提供一些统计数字，希望我可以帮到您。

1) Life expectancy :
China : 75.20 years
Russia : 70.46 years
China wins
2) HDI : 
China : 0.719
Russia : 0.778
Russia wins
3) Population growth rate : 
China : 0.5 %
Russia : 0.2%
China wins
4) GDP(US Dollars) :
China : 10 Trillion Approx
Russia : 2 Trillion approx 
China wins
5) GDP Per Capita 
China : 6,800 dollars
Russia : 14,600 dollars
Russia wins
6）Gini coefficient : 
China : 0.47 
Russia : 0.41
Russia wins
7）Lastly, just for fun : 
Big Mac Index : 
China 2.77
Russia : 1.36

1）预期寿命：
中国：75.20
俄罗斯：70.46
中国赢
2）人类发展指数：
中国：0.719
俄罗斯：0.778
俄罗斯赢
3）人口增长速度：
中国：0.5%
俄罗斯：0.2%
中国赢
4）GDP（美元）
中国：约10万亿
俄罗斯：约2万亿
中国赢
5）人均GDP：
中国：6800
俄罗斯：14600
俄罗斯赢
6）基尼系数
中国：0.47
俄罗斯：0.41
俄罗斯赢
7）最后，开个玩笑
巨无霸系数：
中国：2.77
俄罗斯：1.36

I hope this helps. It's the best I can do since you haven't asked which parameter the countries should be judged by. Hope it helps!

希望有所帮助，鉴于你没有问具体是哪方面的数据，以上就是我能做的了。希望能帮到你。

Leonardo Lee (Леонардо Ли), I was born in China and lived there for four years. Been back a few times.
Written Jun 23, 2016
Neither country is 'better' than the other.  Russia and China are both unique in their own ways.
Let's live in peace and harmony, instead of having to make a separation between who is better and who is worse. :)

哪个国家都不会比其他国家更“好”，中俄都是独特的，走有自己的路。让我们和平、和谐的生活吧。而不是比谁好谁坏。

Mike CountsWritten May 19, 2015
China is trending in a more upward direction than Russia is at this time. China also has more potential to build on how good it is- for all its vast size, Russia lacked some key resources which is a major reason why it got so aggressively expansionist during the Soviet era. China has some expansionist tendencies too, but nowhere near the same extent and not for the same sort of lack in resources. The USSR found that it had to focus on military (or "hard") strength but it wasn't able to do well with its economy, with the private sector ("soft" strength). China has the capacity to do extremely well with both at the same time, although it's still in a bit of a development phase. But it's already shown consistent growth and balance on both sides to an extent that the Soviets never did. And one thing that neither the Soviets or Russia ever did accomplish was to be a creditor to the US to the tune of a trillion dollars.

中国目前看起来比俄罗斯要积极向上。中国建设伟大国家的潜力更大--包括所有广褒的土地在内。而俄罗斯的发展缺乏一些关键因素，这就是前苏联时期有强烈扩展倾向的原因。中国也是有扩张倾向的，但是不及俄罗斯那么大，而且中国并不缺少发展的关键因素。苏联意识到它必须将精力集中在军事上（或者说硬件），但是苏联在经济上却做得不好。由于（中国经济）的私营成分（软实力），中国在软实力和硬实力建设上都干得非常漂亮，尽管中国正在成长期，但是已经表现出可持续性、均衡发展，在软实力硬实力上都达到了苏联从未达到的高度。还有一件是俄罗斯与苏联永远办不到的：中国成了美国几万亿美元的债权人。

Corruption is probably worse in Russia on an everyday basis, as is racism and xenophobia. China's coming up on a time when they need to be very very good at attracting the right kinds of immigrants in large numbers, and I think they'll be better positioned for that than Russia could ever allow itself to be.
With all that being said, these two countries have a long history of alignment, it doesn't necessarily mean they have that much in common but they are linked and they have some things in common. Russia has spent much of that shared history in the big brother role, but it seems to me like China has taken over that role for the time being.

俄罗斯的腐败可能更严重些，全方位的腐败，俄罗斯人既种族主义又仇外。中国现在为了吸引大量的各类优秀移民，需要做的非常好才行，我相信中国会比俄罗斯做的更好，而俄罗斯永远不会成为那样的俄罗斯。
就像以上所说的，两国有悠久的结盟史，这并不意味着两国需要做到彼此相似，但是两国关系千丝万缕，它们有很多共同之处。俄罗斯在历史上的大部分时候都扮演着老大哥的角色，但在我看来，现在中国是老大哥了。

Vyacheslav Shengur, lives in RussiaWritten Jan 27, 2016
Vague! Very vague question.
Let's start analisys. China:
The centuries-old history
Deep Culture
The wisdom of generations
The mysterious soul of the people
Loyalty and commitment to traditions
Stereotypes about people
Large territory
Most of the Army and Navy
Communism
Russia:
The centuries-old history
Deep Culture
The wisdom of generations
The mysterious soul of the people
Loyalty and commitment to traditions
Stereotypes about people
Large territory
Most of the Army and Navy
Democracy
So I think that is not to say that China is better than Russia or Russian better than China. I think every country has its own peculiarity, each in its own very interesting and multifaceted.

模糊！迷之模糊的问题。
先分析下中国：
· 历史悠久
· 文化深厚
· 世代睿智
· 人民神秘
· 衷于传统、秉袭传统
· 对人的刻板印象
· 领土广袤
· 军队庞大
· 共产主义
再分析俄罗斯：
· 历史悠久
· 文化深厚
· 世代睿智
· 人民神秘
· 衷于传统、秉袭传统
· 对人的刻板印象
· 领土广袤
· 军队庞大
· 民主国家
所以我觉得不能说那个国家更好，我觉得每个国家都有独有的特质，每个国家都有自己的利益与多面性。

Zhang Kangle, Chinese,Engneer, Wish world peace for allUpdated Jan 22
I have lived in Moscow in Moscow 4 years. I don’t know which country is better as either has his own plus and minus. And I won’t talk about the hardware as infrastucture can change a lot in a short time if u will… I give my own observation on two issues which show the mentality of the people.
1.In these 2 countries corruption is a problem. But in China the policemen will never blackmail u for a bribe. In Russia, they did it on the steet… So I think corruption is much more rampant than China. In recent years, China did a great job to diminish corruption. I have seen no progress here. If they can’t estabish a clean social environment, your economy will never accomplish much development. And your talent people will be forced to choose to live in other country.
2. Maybe most Russians are kind. But there are more racist in Russia. When u rent a apartment. As a person here has said ‘If you want to rent a place in China, you will not see such explicitly racist advertisements as: no Asian, no Turks, no Negros <- Yes, sir, you saw it right.’ ‘Only for Sclav’. Sadly, It’s true. Fist time see these sentences I’m rather shocked. How can u openly list these words on the ad. /internet as Russia itself also has many minorities? In China, Chinese are always kind to foreigners, if u want to live in China, they welcome u. So in recent years more and more foreigners come to China. Study , do business, even choose to live here. If u descrimate people based on their race but not talent, you will never attract talents aboad….
Overall, if your talents go away from their motherland at an astonishing temp and you can’t attract talents from other countries, your future will be screwed up. Look aroud . Are there anything from Russia? Food, electronics, cars….Hardly find.
Russia is a great country. Russian people are proud people. In history, Russia like phoenix, always rise from the fire. But before solving the fundamental problems of the sociaty, they still have a long way to go. The same is true to China. Wish best luck to them.
That’s my observation.

哥在莫斯科住了四年。我不知道哪个国家更好，因为每个国家都有加分之处也当然有减分之处。我也不想说硬件方面因为基础设施在短期可以有很大的改变。我会给出我自己的观察，在软件和硬件上，并透露出两个人民的心态。
1、这两个国家的腐败都是个问题，但是中国警察绝不会绝不会敲诈你索贿。在俄罗斯，警察在街上就敢这样干。所以我觉得俄罗斯的腐败比中国猖獗得多。近些年，中国在反腐方面做的非常好，而在俄罗斯我没见到任何进步。如果他们不能建立一种干净的社会环境，那么你们的经济永远不会成功，你们天赋凛然的人民也会被迫移居他乡。
2、也许大部分俄罗斯人是好的，但是俄罗斯的种族主义者更多。你租房子的时候，对于个体来说，如果你在中国租房子，你绝对不会看到这样的广告：不租亚洲人、不租土鸡人、不租黑人。是的，你见广告这样写：只租给斯拉夫人。真是可悲，但这是真的。第一次看的这种句子我非常震惊。你们怎么能在公开场合在广告或者互联网上写这样的话？你们自己不也有很多少数民族吗？在中国，人们通常对外国人十分友好，如果你想在中国居住，他们会欢迎你。所以近些年来越来越多的外国人来到中国，学习、经商、甚至选择居住在中国。如果你们把别人以种族来区分而不是以才能来区分，你们永远吸引不了有才干的外国人。
总的来说，如果一个国家有才能的人以惊人的速度流失，而又不能吸引国外的人才，你的未来真的堪忧。看看你们周围，有什么物件是来自俄罗斯么?食物，电子产品，汽车...很难找到了。
俄罗斯是一个伟大的国家，俄罗斯人是自豪的人民。在历史上俄罗斯就想凤凰一般，火中涅槃，但是在解决这些基本的社会问题之前，俄罗斯还有很长一段路要走。对于中国也一样，祝你们好运。
以上。

Alfred W Croucher, MA Qual Political Science & International Relations, Australian National University (1978)
I regret to say I have never been to Russia. Of course I talk about it a lot and have  an informed opinion from extensive reading.
Mao was right. If China just imported some advanced Western technology it would leap ahead of Russia as an economic power just on the demographics. Chinese intelligence and work ethic would ensure that. Chinese income per capita is approaching that of Russia on a PPP basis. Now China is the Big Brother, building the Moscow-Khazakistan railway, opening motor car factories, and dominating border trade.                                                                           
But to be honest, not having lived there, Icouldn't judge。

抱歉我从未去过俄罗斯，当然我也经常谈论它，通过阅读也对其有一定的看法，毛泽东是对的，如果中国从西方进口一些先进技术，它将会超越俄罗斯称谓经济强国。从人口统计学上看，中国人的智力和勤劳的天赋能保证这些，中国的PPP现在正在接近俄罗斯。现在中国是老大哥了，建了莫斯科-哈萨克斯坦铁路，开始汽车工厂，主导边境贸易。
但是说真的，没有在当地居住过，也没法判断（哪个更好）

Aleksandr Petrov, Software Developer (GoLang , C++)
Written Dec 23
I not lived in China, but heard that they have ecological probmels. In Russia also there are regions with bad ecology (industrial cities), but many cities have no manufacture and these cities has good ecology.
From economic point of view I think that China wins, because Russia have few manufactures and small bussiness has no support.
I think that in Russia much smart people (math, programming, engineers), but they sometimes cannot find application because of weak economic.
But the root of all problems in Russia is very very big corruption in all spheres: official, policeman and just regular person - all they steal, take bribes and so on.
I really don’t know why! Maybe it’s our mental, Maybe we had many shocks: World War II, 1991 year, 1998 year.
If you really want to know more about Russia, or understand soul of russian people you should live at least 5 years in one of the region in Russia (not Moscow, because it’s really separate from rest country).

不住在中国，但是我听说他们有幻环境问题，在俄罗斯也有一些区域有环境问题（工业城市），但是很多城市没有制造业所以环境很好。
在经济上来说，我认为中国赢，因为俄罗斯很少有制造业，小生意没有（银行）支持。
我认为俄罗斯人更聪明（数学，编程，工程），但是由于经济原因很多都无法做到。
但是这些问题的根源是俄罗斯在各方面都相当相当的腐败：官员，警察，乃至平常人--他们都会偷窃或者行贿。
我也不知道为啥！可能是我们疯了，可能我们受到的打击太多，二战，1991（苏联解体），1998（金融危机）。
如果真想了解俄罗斯，或者了解俄罗斯人，你至少要在俄罗斯居住五年以上（除了莫斯科，因为莫斯科与这个国家的其余部分是分离的）                                                                              
Gwydion Madawc Williams, Read a lot about Russia. They have been very badly treated since 1991.Written May 7, 2015
China has been doing better than Russia since the mid-1950s.  Russia or rather the Soviet Union made a botched effort at reform and went into a spiral of decline that was only made worse by the sudden conversion to capitalism under Yeltsin.
China managed a coherent reform, mostly by trusting to individual profit-motivated efforts rather than creating a pseudo-market, as Russia did.  But it had also been doing well under Mao, see How Mao Greatly Strengthened China.
In the long run Russia will recover, and still had a much stronger scientific and technical base.  China is currently being sensible about this and keeping good relations with Russia.

中国在50年代后就比俄罗斯做的好了，苏联在叶律卿领导下改革，突然向资本主义转变，但是给办砸了，从此陷入螺旋式衰退。
中国成功的进行了连续式的改革，通过信任个体利益的积极性，而不是像俄罗斯一样创造一个假的市场（应该是指计划经济），但是在毛的领导下（假市场）也做的很好，看看毛的成就：How Mao Greatly Strengthened China
长期来看，俄罗斯会恢复过来，俄罗斯任然有强大得多的科技基础，中国在这方面十分敏感，与俄罗斯保持良好的关系。

Daniel Cohort, Computer professional in China
Written Sep 6, 2015
Chinese GDP per capita is lower than Russian GDP per capita, so economically speaking, no. But Russian economy is military and natural resources-based, so its structure is not healthy. In 2025, if you ask the same question, the answer would probably be a Yes.

中国的人均GDP比俄罗斯低，所以从经济上来说，答案是否定的。但是俄罗斯的经济是基于军贸和自然资源的经济，结构上不健康。2025年如果你问同样的问题，答案可能会是肯定的。

Francis Landivar, world traveller, volunterism, entrepeneurWritten May 17, 2015
For he Chinese, China is better, for the Russian, Russia is better, for the rest of the world, it depends!

对中国人来说，中国更好。对俄罗斯人来说，俄罗斯更好，对于其他国家来说，看情况。

Qin GuoWritten May 18, 2015
I can tell from personal experience why I think China is doing so much better than Russia. 
1. Chinese policemen will not ask for bribes;
2. Chinese policemen will not detain you just because you seem to be a rich foreigner;
3. If you want to rent a place in China, you will not see such explicitly racist advertisements as: no Asian, no Turks, no Negros <- Yes, sir, you saw it right.
Russia's problem is, that Russian government never really cares about its country, nor does its people. 
Almost every Russian will tell you that Russia will become so much better if they kill some of the corrupted чинивников, but at the same time they seek for chances to give bribes, too, because it just makes things much easier than almost "mission impossible".

基于我个人的经历，我可以告诉你为什么中国比俄罗斯做的好。
1、中国警察不会索贿。
2、中国警察不会因为你是有钱的外国人二拘留你
3、如果你要在中国租房，你不会看到这样明确的种族主义广告比如：不租亚洲人，不租土鸡人、不租黑人。
俄罗斯的问题是政府从来没有真正的关心这个国家，也没有关心过人民。
几乎所有俄罗斯人都会告诉你，如果杀掉一些贪官污吏俄罗斯会变得更好，但是与此同时他们也会找机会行贿，因为这样会让事情好办得多。

Sikandar Azam Khan Alizai, Interest in international affairs and historyWritten Dec 25
China is doing better than russia. The things where china is 2nd to russia, soon china will be standing at 1st. The only thing where china can never beat russia is the natural resources.

中国比俄罗斯做的好。只要是中国排在俄罗斯后面的事情，中国很快就会排在第一。中国唯一不可能打败俄罗斯的就是自然资源了了

ENS Becca, International Kindergarten teacherWritten Jan 17
Having lived in both countries now as an expat I can tell you that each country has their good and bad traits
China Pros:
Good expat community- very easy to make friends and find people who have a similar situation to yourself.
You can buy anything- It sometimes takes a little searching but if you want something in China you can get it.
Cheap cost of living- You can live on next to nothing if you shop at the local markets.
Russia Pros:
Central Heating- All the apartments and businesses run on central heating so you are only cold when you are outside (China was freezing in the winter inside and out)
Ability to earn good money- Russia is an emerging economy with many opportunities for expats to make a good salary and live well.
China Cons:
Too many people- taking the metro during rush hour is impossible
Cleanliness- this is abig one for me. It wasn’t dirty inside apartments but outside it was dusty and dirty.
Public toilets/toilets in general- No doors no toilet paper just no no no
Spitting- Everyone does it.
Russia Cons:
Stubborn people- Remember Russians are always right even when they are wrong
No expat community- There are expats here but the community is not as welcoming as in Asia
Prices can be high- 10–20$ for a beer at a club/restaurant is normal
Bland food - Too much dairy not enough chilis
Final conclusion (in my opinion) As an expat, living in Russia has been slightly easier.

作为一个海外党，两个国家我都住过，我可以告诉你两个国家各有优劣
中国的优势：
良好的外国人社群--很容易找到跟你情况差不多的人做朋友。
能买到所有的东西--尽管有时候可能需要做点功课，但是如果你想要啥肯定能买到。
生活成本低廉--如果你住在市场附近，基本可以完全满足生活所需。
俄罗斯优势：
集中供暖--所有的公寓和写字楼都有集中供暖，所以你只会在室外比较冷（中国室外室内一样冷）
钱更好赚--俄罗斯是一个新兴经济体，赚钱、讨个好生活的机会多多。
中国劣势：
人太多了--高峰时期搭地铁太难了
清洁问题--对我来说是个很大的问题，室内不脏，但是室外脏得很。
公共厕所--没门没厕纸要啥没啥
吐痰--每个人都这样干。
俄罗斯劣势：
顽固的人民--请记住俄罗斯人永远是对的，即便他们错的时候也是对的。
没有外国人社群--外国人倒是有，但是外国人社群不像在亚洲那样受欢迎。
物价很高--酒吧/餐馆啤酒10-20刀一只很常见。
乏味的食物--奶制品太多少辣。
最后总结一下（个人看法），作为外国人，在俄罗斯生活稍微容易一丢丢。

Eric Knudstrup, Bicycled around the world.Written Dec 24
I was married to a Chinese woman for more than 10 years. I have studied both Chinese and Russian.
I have ridden a bicycle across both countries, spending about three months in both. The whole way. Through cities, villages, and the countryside. Both countries are disasters. However, China is visibly more disastrous. It’s very overpopulated in the urban areas. Pollution in some areas is horrifying. The Chinese, having been too poor to own cars for most of the twentieth century, are just starting to learn how to drive. While both countries are known for not being free, China is the less free of the two.
However, while I might prefer to be in Russia versus China at this point in time, China is on a march to modernization, which I don’t see happening in Russia. I see Russia as being more corrupt. Twenty years from now my answer is likely to be very different.
I have also ridden across the USA once and Europe twice - once east to west and once south to north. My favorite countries are Germany and Holland. Both are prosperous and clean.

我跟一个中国女人结婚超过10年了，我在中国俄罗斯都学习过。
我在两国都骑行过，各花了3个月左右的时间。总体来说。城市、乡村，两个国家都跟灾难似的。但是中国更加灾难。城市污染太严重，有些地区的污染很吓人。中国人20世纪的时候太穷买不起车，他们刚开始学开车。尽管两国都以不自由闻名，但中国自由更少些。
然后，虽然我更喜欢俄罗斯，但是中国现代化速度快些，在俄罗斯我就没看到这种情况。我见到俄罗斯更腐败。二十年后我的答案可能会很不一样。
我也在美国和欧洲骑行过两次--一次从东向西，一次从南到北。我最喜欢的国家是德国和荷兰。都很繁荣干净。

Joseph Boyle
Written May 7, 2015
China > Russia
Whether that means better, you can judge...

中国>俄罗斯，是否意味中国更好，自行判断。

Lisa Looney, University Teacher, Certified Medical Assistant / International BusinessWritten Nov 18, 2015
I would only imagine the food is very or maybe even more diverse in China than in Russia and maybe more tasty.  The problem is Iv'e tried several types of Chinese in China by many cooks.  However, havent tried much Russian food.  After doing some digging, I dont see Russia on any international food lists comparing 10-50 countries.

我能想到的是，中国的食物更加多样化，可能还更美味。问题是我尝过很多中国厨师各式各样的食物，但在俄罗斯尝不到那么多。深入研究以后，我发现俄罗斯相比其他10-50个国家缺少国际化的食物。

Baiyan Zhao, lived in ChinaWritten May 15, 2015
I am being subjective here but I am confident that in one particular area China dwarfs Russia: culinary art.

在此我很主观，但是我可以很自信的说在有个方面中国吊打俄罗斯
那就是：料理

Gangrou Nie, Best or nothingWritten May 7, 2015
Just like humanbeing every country has it's advantages and disadvantages so I don't know what's your "better"mean.Your question just make no sense.However, anyway I will tell you China is better, at least it will be better very soon.

就像人类一样，每个国家都有优势和劣势，所以我不知道你的这个“好”字是何意，你的问题没有意义，不管怎样我都会跟你说中国更好，至少很快就会更好。

Sagar Shetty, ResearcherWritten May 7, 2015
Your question is very vague, as you need to say better in which field or in what terms. Please be more specific next time.
这个问题太模糊了，你应该说那个方面更好或者哪个领域，下次请问得详细些。

Marcus Grant, follow russia in mediaWritten Dec 6
Is China better than Russia?
not yet, but it has chances to become better one day

中国比俄罗斯好么？
现在并没有，不过有机会。

Zhou Wen, learner
Written Nov 19, 2015
Russia is so cold,I think Russia only have winter,but if live in China,you can feel four distinctive seasons,and Russians have bad credit and aggressiveness,such as invade Crimea

俄罗斯太冷了，我觉得俄罗斯只有冬天，但是在中国，你能感受到四季分明，而且毛子信用不好又太具攻击性，

AnonymousWritten Nov 27
Absurd question as India is always better.
可笑的问题，就像印度总是更好这种问题一样。

Nana Kobina Esslifie-AddoWritten Nov 29
Russia is better.

俄罗斯好些

AnonymousWritten Dec 22
No, GDP per capita is about half of Russia’s and China has to equip its military with important Russian technology.

非也，中国的人均GDP只有约俄罗斯的一半，中国用俄罗斯进口的技术装备军队。

Babya VithhalWritten May 17, 2015
It depends on the country.For India China is an enemy and competitor.Russia has plenty of natural resources so it has never used tactics to destabilize a country which has natural resources.

对于国家来说答案不一定。对印度来说中国是敌人与竞争对手。俄罗斯有很多自然资源所以他从来不需用计破坏另一个资源丰富的国家。

Da CaoWritten Jun 8, 2015
I hate to be disrespect but this is a silly question.  
Anyways I'll share my subjective opinion. 
Food: china dwarfs russia
Music: russia dwarfs china

不想失礼，但这个问题很愚蠢
食物：中国吊打俄罗斯
音乐：俄罗斯吊打中国

Wilson Le, works at Bình DươngWritten Jan 24
I only know one point that China is better than Russia, Chinese is better at driving but Russians are crazy drivers. Search youtube : “car crash compilation” and you will see how crazy the Russians drive their car.

我只知道有一点中国肯定比俄罗斯好，中国人开车开得比俄罗斯人好，俄罗斯开车的是疯子，不信你去油管上搜：车祸集合，你就知道俄罗斯人开车有多疯狂了

Nama Iazi, B.A. Computer Science, Shenzhen UniversityWritten Nov 5, 2015



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Well, i guess no more to say. =)
Or there are just too many chinese in quora. XD
But i think, yes, China is better than russian, in many ways.

我猜我不需要说了吧？quora上的中国人太多了，但是我觉得，中国比俄罗斯好，在很多方面。