quora网友:这只是表明了,很多美国白人对其他背景和血统的人的无知和自我为中心的态度。我知道在美国有非常多的种族主义事件的例子,我很遗憾你被这样对待。别期望唐纳德特朗普改善国内民族关系。我预计在接下来的几年中这个国家会有很多麻烦。
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Jesse Zhou studied at University of California San Diego
Written Jul 18 2014
Jesse Zhou 就读于加利福尼亚大学,圣迭戈
Being Chinese-American I can tell you some of the many remarks that have annoyed me throughout my life:
作为华裔美国人,我可以告诉你在我的生活中惹恼我的很多评论中的一些。
1、"Hey you're Chinese. Do this math problem for me."
2、"You got an 800 on your SAT math test right? It's probably because Chinese people are just naturally good at math."
3、"I would hate to have a tiger mom like yours." (Note: Person never met my mom who's actually really nice)
4、"I probably drive better than you."
5、"Isn't Jackie Chan your role model or something?"
6、"Don't you support communism?"
7、"If I go to China they will immediately arrest me and throw me into a communist prison. It's why I will never visit China."
8、"Why does Chinese food taste like shit?"
1、“嘿,你是中国人,给我解一下数学题”
2、“你在SAT数学测试中得了800分,是吧?这很可能因为中国人天生擅长数学。”
3、“我讨厌有一个像你妈妈那样的虎妈。”(提示:他从没见过我妈,实际上她非常好)
4、“我也许车开的比你好。”
5、“难道成龙不是你的榜样或者类似的什么吗?”
6、“难道你不是共产主义的支持者吗?”
7、“如果我去中国,他们会立刻逮捕我,把我扔进一座共产主义分子的监狱。这就是我为什么从不去中国旅游。”
8、“为什么中国食物味道像狗屎一样?”
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9、"I'm only going to eat the skin off of the dumplings."
10、"Aren't Taiwanese and Chinese people the same?" (Seriously don't say this one.)
11、Me: "Can you take your shoes off before you walk around my house?"
Person: "No I think I'll keep them on."
12、"Haha your dick is small! It's like I have a regular iPod and you have an iPod Nano." (This guy was a total idiot.)
13、"You should tell your people to stop copying American products. Why don't you guys try making something original?"
14、"Let Jesse calculate the tip. He's Chinese."
15、"So how many of your friends are sweatshop workers?"
16、Saying anything in a heavy fake and pathetic Chinese accent.
9、“我只吃饺子皮。”
10、“台湾人和中国人难道不是一样的吗?”(真的,别说这个)
11、我:“你可以在进我家之前把鞋脱掉么?”
对方:“不,我想我要穿着他们”
12、:“哈哈,你丁丁好小!就像我有一个正常的iPod,而你只有iPod Nano.”(这货完全是个白痴)
13:“你应该告诉你的人停止山寨美国产品。为什么你们就不能试着做点原创的东西呢?”
14、“让Jesse算一下小费,他是中国人”
15、“所以你有多少朋友在血汗工厂干活?”
16、假装用低沉的、可怜的中国口音说话。
And etcetera. Usually if it's a one time thing and it's in good humor I tend to forgive and forget especially if it's my close friends. But I've long broken the friendships with people who consistently make fun of me because of my ancestral/cultural background. I don't need friends like that.
等等。通常如果只是一次或者善意的玩笑,我都会原谅并忘了这事,特别是对我亲密的朋友。但是我会与那些由于我的祖先/文化背景而一直取笑我的人绝交,我不需要这样的朋友。
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Jake Williams 10 upvotes
If someone said 8 or 9 around me I'd kick their ass. Although I will admit to calling Cantonese food Chinese food on occasion.
如果有人在我周围说8或9,我会踢他的屁股。虽然我承认偶尔也会把广东菜称为中国菜。
Vadim Berman 30 upvotes
I remember an interesting episode re China / Taiwan. I was with a European company signing an agreement in mainland China. The agreement was valid in (according to the Chinese text) "China including Taiwan Hong Kong and Macao". The European representative an elderly gentleman had to spell it in English for a reason I don't remember now. He inadvertently dropped the word "including".
我记得一个关于中国和台湾的有趣的小插曲。当时我和一家欧洲公司一起在中国大陆签署一项协议,协议(根据中文文本)在“中国,包括台湾,香港和澳门”均有效。那个欧洲代表是个年老的绅士,出于某种原因(我忘了)他不得不用英文拼写出来。然后他不经意的就省略掉了“包括”这个字。
They were not happy.
他们不高兴了。
Jeffrey Kearns 2 upvotes
The same thing happens to me all the time.
People also say I’m a good swimmer because I’m white and I’m a good basketball player because I’m black.
同样的事也总发生在我身上。
人们平常也说“我是一个白人所以我游泳好”,“我是一个黑人所以我打篮球厉害”。
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Richard Lambert 12 upvotes
Richard Lambert 12个赞
It would be interesting to know where you live what type of work you do or where you encountered these comments. Somehow you have encountered way more than your share of racist ignorant jerks. These comments seem like they were deliberately intended to insult; there is some racism against Chinese these days but in most circles the average person won't even think of saying this stuff even if they believed some of it.
我很感兴趣你住在哪,做什么工作, 在哪遭遇的这些评论。貌似你遇到的种族主义无知言论尤其的多。这些评论看起来好像他们故意这么做的;最近有些针对中国人的种族歧视,但是在大多数圈子中,一般人甚至不会想到说这些,即使他们相信其中的一些话。
I have an Asian wife and have been married 26 years. My teenage triplets are obviously mixed. I can count on my fingers the number of times there were blatantly racist comments like yours. Almost all were from young children(around 6th grade) directed at my kids.
我有一个亚裔老婆,我们已经结婚26年了。我十几岁的三胞胎显然是混血儿 。像你一样,我用手指头都数不清有多少次公然的种族歧视。几乎全部都来自(大约6年级的)小孩直接对我孩子的歧视。
Completely a guess but this really feels to me like the kind of thing young college students/young adult males would do when hanging out with their buds. Kind of in fun kind of malicious but intentionally pulling out (false) stereotypes just to show how clever they are and to get a reaction. Probably not believing 95% of it themselves.
全凭猜测,但就我的感觉来说,这很像那些年轻的大学生/年轻的成年男性和伙伴们出去玩的时候会做的事。一半好玩一半恶意,但是故意强调出来(假)成见只为了显示他们有多聪明,并且看看你的反应。他们自己可能95%都不信这些。
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Connie Arnold 16 upvotes
AMEN! I worked in China for 4 years. People should realize that cultural stereotypes may have a grain of truth (Lord knows many Chinese and other Asian students are keeping US SAT scores higher in math!) BUT they are stereotypes and don't apply to ALL individuals in a nation of 1.3 (or is it now 1.4?) billion people. (The food comment baffles me since Chinese-American food is one of our 'top' foreign food choices.) Even among my Uni students in China there was significant diversity. And some of these students were terrible at math!
阿门!我在中国工作4年了。人民应该认识到文化的偏见中可能有某种真理(上帝知道很多中国和亚洲学生在美国SAT数学考试中得了更高的分数!)但这是刻板印象,不适用于一个国家13(或者现在14)亿人中的全部。(食物的评论使我困惑,因为华裔美国食品是我们的‘顶级’外国食物的选择之一。)即使是包括我在中国的大学的学生,也是有很大差异的。这些学生中的一些人数学很糟糕!
Now this is not a problem just for Americans talking about Chinese though. In parts of Asia everyone expects Americans to be blond all American women to take off their clothes and f**k nearly on the streets and eat hamburgers every minute of the day. That's just for starters - I could go on. (We all have guns too!)
但是并非只有美国人才对中国人有刻板印象。在亚洲的部分地区,每个人都觉得美国人是金发碧眼的,所有美国女人在大街上就会脱衣服然后OOXX,一天中每分钟都在吃汉堡。这只是开始——我可以继续说。(以及所有美国人都拥有枪支!)
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Leah Ma 10 upvotes
Well the people in Taiwan and China ARE both Chinese. I don't quite get this one. They're different provinces but then China has different provinces itself. The first thing any Chinese asks another is 'where are you from?' meaning 'what province?' There are many mainland Chinese who fled to Taiwan when Mao took over. Do you think they're Taiwanese or Chinese? When I lived in Taiwan everyone thought they were Chinese. Wo men shr Jung Guo ren (we are Chinese) they all said to me or I am Chinese--wo shr jung guo ren. I mean--are people from all the other provinces now supposed to say 'I am xxxxxx.' instead of I am Chinese. My husband is from Manchuria--but he is NOT Manchurian so he is not going to say that instead of saying he's Chinese. They can say I am FROM such and such place--but Chinese ARE Chinese. So I just don't get this one. I would think--just say I'm from Taiwan or I'm from China. You can't erase DNA through politics. I agree with Taiwan about wanting to remain independent from China though but genetically they ARE Chinese!
好吧,台湾人和大陆人都是中国人。我不完全理解这句话。他们是不同的省份但是中国自己又有不用的省份。任何一个中国人问另一个人的第一件事就是:“你从哪里来?”意思是“哪一个省?”当毛主席接管中国的时候,许多大陆人逃往台湾。你认为他们是台湾人还是大陆人呢?当我在台湾居住的时候,每一个人都认为他们是中国人,我们是中国人(we are Chinese),他们都这么对我说,或者I am Chinese ——我是中国人。我是说——难道现在来自其他省份的人也该说“我是XXXXX”而不是我是中国人吗?我的丈夫来自满洲—但是他不是满洲人,所以他不那么说而是说他是中国人。他们可以说我来自这里 或者那里—但是中国人就是中国的(人)。所以我不是很理解这句话。我想—仅仅说我来自台湾或者我来自大陆。你不能通过政治活动抹去这个基因。我虽然同意台湾想要继续独立于中国之外,但是从遗传上来说,他们是中国人!
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Tim Canterbury 8 upvotes
you forgot to include questions about people asking about dog or cat cuisine. And also gambling. I have heard non Chinese people ask Chinese and Chinese Americans what is their strategy for choosing lottery tickets like Powerball.
问题中没有提及“中国人吃猫吃狗”。还有赌博,我听说非华人会请教中国人或美籍华人,选彩票号码的策略,就像强力球彩票。
Abby Dye 5 upvotes
I'm sorry people are so crappy. The friends you have forgiven for making racist comments are very lucky for your patience. Thank you for sharing with all of us about your experiences. It all seems so obvious... why do you think people think it's ok to say these things? Thanks for speaking out!
非常抱歉人们表现的如此的糟糕,你的朋友应该庆幸,因为你容忍并原谅了这些种族主义的评论。
感谢你分享这些经验。这看起来如此显而易见.......你觉得为什么这些人会觉得说这些话无伤大雅?
谢些你的发言。
Fred Chen 16 upvotes
A response to #8: "So you have tasted shit right? Otherwise how would you know the taste of shit?"
对第8项的反击:你吃过屎吧?否则你怎么会知道---屎的味道??(友军,典型中式反击)
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Daniel Newby 1 upvote
"Why does Chinese food taste like shit?" Is probably a valid question for a westerner to ask about authentic Chinese cuisine. Hopefully they would use more tact than that but the palette differences are pronounced and texture is valued far more in Chinese cooking.
“为什么中国饭吃起来像狗屎?”西方人就正宗中餐问这个问题其实是可以理解的。但是希望西方人不要这么直接。西餐和中餐确实有很大差异,中餐烹饪对材料的构成更加看重。
Stu Antonio 2 upvotes
Love this answer and having been in China totally get you.
But I think the moral of the story is not using non existent stereotypes for any country. Be it Chinese...ahem mathematicians Brits liking The Queen or Colombians and drugs (that last one really gets me started and could be a whole new question).
喜欢这个答案,已经来中国,完全赞同你。
但是,我认为这个故事的寓意不是用不存在的成见套用任何国家。中国人…呃,数学家,英国人喜欢女王,或者哥伦比亚与毒品(最后一个惊到我了,这可能是另一个全新问题了)。
Max Yang 1 upvote
Seriously did someone actually said 7 to you? Jesus…
竟然有人问你第七个问题?天吖。
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Michael Thal 2 upvotes
I didn't realize the stupidity and ignorance of people towards Chinese. I studied Asian Studies in college so I guess I have an advantage regarding the rich culture and gifts the Chinese people have given to the West.
我都没想到人们对中国的愚蠢和无知。我在大学学习亚洲研究,所以我觉得我在讨论中国给西方带来的丰富的文化和礼物方面有优势。
Dave Mortimer 5 upvotes
I have a Chinese wife and I warned her with all the stupid American thinking about the Chinese. There is this stupid notion that a chinese female has her sexual organ at a 90 degree angle. I warned her she may hear that rediculous comment at some point. However being in America and there is so many cultural jokes about (I have a Cuban mom) I do joke around and when people ask me "is she chinese".. I reply " under her foot it says MADE IN CHINA'.
我有一个华裔老婆,我警告他所有愚蠢的美国人所设想中的中国人。有一条愚蠢的想法是这样的,中国女性有一个90度的性器官。我警告她可能在一些地方听到这些荒谬的评论。然而作为一个美国人,有太多的文化笑话(我的母亲是古巴人)当有人问我“她是中国人吗”的时候,我会开一个玩笑,我回答“在她脚下就是传说中的中国制造”
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Alex Demchenko 2 upvotes
This just goes to prove the ignorance and self-centred approach many white American people have towards people of other background and descent. I know too many instances of racism occurring in the USA and I'm really sorry that you get treated like this. Don't expect Donald Trump to improve internal ethnic relations either. I'm seeing a country in a lot of trouble in the next couple years either way.
这只是表明了,很多美国白人对其他背景和血统的人的无知和自我为中心的态度。我知道在美国有非常多的种族主义事件的例子,我很遗憾你被这样对待。别期望唐纳德特朗普改善国内民族关系。我预计在接下来的几年中这个国家会有很多麻烦。
Peyton Robinson
Haha I'm Chinese-Canadian is when people don't believe me that I'm half Chinese until I start speaking Chinese to them.
Look I'm already self-conscious about it at the few times where all my Chinese relatives are in one place and speaking Chinese to each other do you really have to bring it up? What's worse is that my five year old cousin and three year old cousin are going to chinese immersion. Do you know how sad that is? XD
哈哈,我是加拿大华裔,人们都不相信我有一半中国血统,直到我开始对他们说中文。
看,我已经有这样的自觉了,我的中国亲戚都住在一起,互相说中文,你真的要提起这事么?更糟糕的是,我的5岁表弟和3岁表弟将要沉浸在中文里面,你知道这有多悲伤了吧?XD
Anne Jones 1 upvote
Okay. I'm going to step in it and confess that I truly don't understand #10. Please take pity and explain.
好吧,我要介入了,我真的不理解第10条。请怜悯我,解释一下。
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