最疯狂的中国皇帝? [美国媒体]

我对民国(还是新中国?)前的中国历史了解的不多,但是我听过如此之多的罗马皇帝的故事,通过像是康茂德 尼禄和卡利古拉这些罗马皇帝的故事,可以帮助我想象中国的皇帝们。美国网友:你应该去了解下秦始皇。他曾经焚书坑儒,在他西安的陵墓里有水银灌注的河流。实际上在朝代更替的时期很容易找到一个"坏"皇帝,因为根据中国人的看法他们由于恶行从而失去了上天委任的权力(即失道)。


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BillyBattsShinebox
I listen to a ton of podcasts and have been listening to Mike Duncan's massive 70+ hour History of Rome podcast for the past god knows how many weeks.

我收听了很多播客音频节目 其中迈克邓肯的关于罗马历史的节目 总计听了超过70个小时 . 天知道一共是多少个星期的节目了.

I've reached the point in which Commodus has been killed. For those who don't know much about him (i.e. people like the me of two days ago) Commodos was an emperor who among other things enjoyed entering gladiatorial games and hacking midgets and amputees to death with a sword believed he was the literal reincarnation of Hercules the son of Jupiter renamed all 12 months after his self-given 12-titled-name and even attempted to rename Rome after himself.

我已经听到康茂德被杀的进度了. 以防有人不知道康茂德是谁(两天前我自己同样不知道.) 康茂德是一个罗马皇帝 他酷爱跟人比剑 并相信自己是朱庇特(宙斯)的儿子赫拉克勒斯转世 而且常常通过用剑砍杀侏儒和肢体残缺者来证明这一点 .他给自己加封了12个头衔 并且分别用这12个头衔来给12个月份重新命名 .  这还不算 他甚至企图用自己的名字来给罗马改名.



I don't know much about pre-Republic Chinese history but hearing about all of these stories of Roman emperors like Commodus Nero and Caligula has got me thinking about China's emperors.

我对民国(还是新中国?)前的中国历史了解的不多 但是我听过如此之多的罗马皇帝的故事 通过像是康茂德 尼禄和卡利古拉这些罗马皇帝的故事 可以帮助我想象中国的皇帝们.

Did crazy Chinese emperors exist? I'm not talking about ruthless murderous emperors but full-on batshit insane emperors.

中国有过疯狂的皇帝吗? 我说的并非是那些残忍嗜杀的皇帝 而是那种彻底疯狂的 神经错乱的皇帝 . 

For some reason I never hear anything about them but I assume they must have existed. 

不知为何 我从未听说过他们的存在 但是我认为他们一定是存在过的.

To anybody who knows much about Chinese history - let's hear some names/stories.

那些熟悉中国历史的人 请告诉我们这些皇帝和故事吧 .


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markgloom
No because an emperor usually had many sons the craziest one couldn’t get a chance to succeed him to the throne.

作为一个皇帝通常有很多个儿子,一般来讲最疯狂的那个得不到机会继位为皇。

BillyBattsShinebox
I mean sure I get that but with the length of China's history I'd be pretty shocked if there wasn't at least one crazy emperor.

我理解你的意思,但是中国历史如此之长,如果没有存在哪怕一个疯狂的皇帝我都会感到吃惊的。

markgloom
There were many incapable tyrant dissolute emperors

在历史上确实存在着许多昏庸无能暴虐荒淫的皇帝。

mister_klik
OP wants names. Do you have any names?

你们知道一些例子吗?

Lewey_B
Liu Shan of the kingdom of Shu had the reputation of being an incapable leader or even of being mentally handicapped. Fortunately he had Zhuge Liang as prime minister.

Lewey_B:蜀国的刘禅就是一个昏庸无能的皇帝甚至有点智障,幸运的是他有诸葛亮作为总理大臣来辅佐。

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KPCNChina 
Can you post a lix to the history of Rome podcast? Sounds interesting! Do they do for various periods? Eg do they have one for ancient Greece etc?

你能把那个播客的链接地址发给我吗?听起来很有趣!它们包含了各个时期吗?比如有没有关于古希腊时代之类的?

historypodlist
yes and no:
http://thehistoryofrome.typepad.com/ is a podcast by Mike Duncan who currently runs the very popular podcast revolutions (each season tells the story of a different revolution starting with the english civil wars). For the most part narrative history podcasters stick to one region/time period.

历史播客列表
既是又非:
http://thehistoryofrome.typepad.com/这是麦克.邓肯的播客,他目前正运营者着广受欢迎的播客革命(每个季节都讲述了英国内战开始的不同革命的故事)。大多数历史叙述型的播客都只讲述同一地区/时间段的故事。

However there are other great podcasts that cover other time periods. For instance there's a newer "history of ancient greece" podcast which has covered up to the start of the Peloponnesian war.

不过还有其他很棒的播客涵盖其他时间段。 例如,有一个新的“古希腊历史”播客已经涉及了伯罗奔尼撒战争的开始。

to wrap this back to china: both the "china history" podcast and the "history of china" podcast are solid history podcasts about China though the "history of china" podcast is more focused on telling a long narrative history and the "china history" podcast jumps around chinese history telling different stories and miniseries.

说回中国:虽然“中国历史”和“中国之史”这两个播客都坚守中国史实,但“中国之史”更倾向于叙述悠久的历史,而“中国历史”则跳跃式地讲述不同的故事和短片。

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KPCNChina
wow amazing man! I love it! I will subscribe and listen for sure!

令人惊叹!我喜欢这个!我肯定会收听和捐助的。

historypodlist
glad to hear it

很高兴能收听到

Catsdontpaytaxes
You should read up on Qin Shi Huang. He burned books and had academics buried alive. There are also stories about rivers of mercury in his unopened tomb in Xi'an. In truth an easy way to find a "bad" one is to take a look at any point where there was dynastic change according to Chinese though these emperors had lost the Mandate of Heaven due to their wicked acts.

你应该去了解下秦始皇。他曾经焚书坑儒,在他西安的陵墓里有水银灌注的河流。实际上在朝代更替的时期很容易找到一个"坏"皇帝,因为根据中国人的看法他们由于恶行从而失去了上天委任的权力(即失道)。

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meursaultfag
Qin Shi Huang: demanded his court follow him on a huge trip away from Xi'an in his fruitless quest for immortality. Dragged them all the way to Taishan in Shandong so that he could climb it and achieve immortality but it rained so hard that he couldn't reach the top. So next he drags the whole imperial court to the coast where he shoots a whale with a bow and arrow thinking that it is some sea god and now his quest for immortality is complete. Dies a few days later ironically from the bullshit TCM pills containing mercury that he thought would turn him immortal. His body is kept within the imperial carriage and his ministers stuff it full of rotting fish to disguise the smell of his decaying corpse because they are terrified what will happen when news gets out that His Imperial Majesty is dead.
Oh and let's not forget the lover of Qin Shi Huang's mother: Lao Ai. This guy apparently had the biggest cock in Chinese history. It was so big that respected historian Sima Qian later claimed that it could be used as an axle for a wooden carriage.
meursaultfag

秦始皇:带上他的宫廷从西安出发长途跋涉追求虚无的长生,一直来到山东的泰山以登山取得长生。但是天公不美,瓢泼大雨他不能登山。于是他就带着他的皇廷人马来到海岸上用弓箭猎杀一条鲸鱼(他以为是海神)以求长生。由于常常食用含汞的长生丸他几周后死去了,他的尸体被放在皇家马车内,他的部长们在里面放满咸鱼以遮蔽尸臭,因为他们担心一旦皇帝死去的消息传出将天下大乱。当然,我们不要忘记始皇母亲的情人:嫪毐,这个家伙显然拥有中国历史上最大的小弟弟,如此之大连受人尊敬的历史学家司马迁都宣称可以用来做马车的轮轴。

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Applieddragon 
隋炀帝 in Sui dynasty

隋朝的隋炀帝

NizzoUnited States

商纣王

meursaultfag
They made a woman Emperor once during the Tang Dynasty. A woman! What the fuck were they thinking?
meursaultfag

在唐代存在一个女皇帝,简直是见了鬼了(私推测为武后)

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