研究称巨大的塑料垃圾浪潮将淹没美国【评论】 [美国媒体]

A giant wave of plastic garbage could flood the U.S., a study says

研究称巨大的塑料垃圾浪潮将淹没美国


Rick20112
It is time to roll the downstream disposal or recycling costs into all packaging, from paper to cardboard, to plastics, to glass, aluminum, and steel. 

Maybe when the true cost of a liter of soda, a can of beer, or a FedEx package is recognized, we will begin to change how things are packaged and delivered.

现在是时候将下游处理或回收成本转化到包装本身上了，从纸张到硬纸板，塑料，玻璃，铝和钢都要。
也许当一公升汽水，一罐啤酒或联邦快递包的真正成本得到认可时，我们才会开始改变包装和交付方式。

Soudesuka
"It is time to roll the downstream disposal or recycling costs into all packaging, from paper to cardboard, to plastics, to glass, aluminum, and steel."

YES.

Among other things, I'd think that metal recycling pretty much takes care of itself here, other stuff maybe not so much.

And there's no reason to be storing perishable food in non-biodegradable containers!

“现在是时候将下游处理或回收成本转化到包装本身上了，从纸张到硬纸板，塑料，玻璃，铝和钢都要。”
是的。
除此之外，我认为金属回收很重要，其他的东西可能不是那么要紧。
真的没有理由将易腐食品储存在不可生物降解的容器中！

Magwitch
One suggestion: Try to avoid buying fresh fruits and vegetables that are packaged. Plenty of stuff is sold loose, and you also do NOT need to pull a plastic bag off the roll in the supermarket, to put it in. Most things can go loose into your reusable bag and just be washed off when you get home.

一个建议：尽量避免购买有包装的新鲜水果和蔬菜。许多这类东西都是零散销售的，你也不需要在超市的卷轴上拉个塑料袋把它放进去。大多数东西可以放入你的可重复使用的包里，回家后就可以清洗。

Incida mcandrew
I agree. Like I can see bagging grapes so they don't fall all over the place. And romaine, b/c it's always wet. But an eggplant, a cucumber, 2 grapefruits, a head of broccoli? No need.

我同意。比如我看会有袋装葡萄，因为有袋子所以它们不会落到各个地方。还有（袋装）长叶莴苣，因为它总是湿的。但是1个茄子，1根黄瓜，2个葡萄柚，1个花椰菜这种？没必要（用袋装）。

Alrob8
Bring back the returnable bottles we used to use.  I remember when it was cheaper to buy soda in returnable bottles than in disposable bottles or cans.  Also, make things that are repairable and built to last, not to be thrown away at the first malfunction because it is cheaper to buy a new one than to repair the old one.

用回我们以前使用的可回收瓶子吧。我记得购买可回收瓶中的苏打水比一次性瓶装或罐装的便宜。另外，多制造可修复的东西，不要在第一次出现故障时就扔掉，因为现在购买新东西要比修理旧东西便宜。

Georgedang
These returnable ceramic yogurt cups and glass soda bottles never went away in China and Japan, they're still being used to this day, and their shape and size didn't change much since the '50s. They also separate their recyclables far better - no dirty diapers in recyclables. It makes being irresponsible look like a western thing.

这些可回收的陶瓷酸奶杯和玻璃汽水瓶从未在中国和日本消失过，至今仍在使用，自50年代以来，它们的形状和尺寸没有太大变化。他们还将他们的可回收物品分类得更好 - 在可回收物品中没有脏尿布。这使得不负责任这事看起来像是西方的东西。

Historwatcher
But, but, but,  I can't teleport a glass bottle back to the store on my I-Phone.   WAAAAH.

但是，但是，但是……我无法将玻璃瓶传送回我Phone上的商店里。哇啊啊啊啊。

Casualbasic
We should outlaw bottled water.  That's a start.

我们应该取缔瓶装水。从这里开始。

Pandaks
You have to remember the main reason people buy bottled water - convenience. Put a water bottle filling station at every place that sells bottled water and make sure the attached existing water systems are not just to code, but will filter water good enough to deter people from buying bottled. 

I would love nothing more than to never buy bottled water again and just use my trusty reusable bottle everywhere I go. But I can't. Not yet, anyway.

你必须记住人们购买瓶装水的主要原因 - 方便。可以在每个销售瓶装水的地方放一个水瓶灌装站，并确保附带的现有供水系统不仅仅是编码而已，而是过滤水好到足以阻止人们购买瓶装水。
我也想再也不买瓶装水，到处可以使用我那个可靠的可重复使用的瓶子。但无论如何我不能。还还不行。

Incida mcandrew
I was in a college cafeteria the other day where they had a dedicated "water bottle filler station"  
Easy. Not messy vs using a drinking foundation (or worse! the sink in the ladies' room). 
(They even had a ticker on it showing how many commercial water bottles were "saved today" by refilling your own.)

前几天我在一所大学的食堂里看他们有一个专门的“水瓶灌装站”
很简单的。与饮水基础设施（或更糟糕的是，和女士房间中的水槽）相比，更加不混乱。
（他们甚至有一个自动收报机，显示因为你自己装水使得“今天节约”了多少个商业水瓶）。

nuanced
Most users of bottled water could drink their tap water with no problem.

大多数瓶装水用户都可以喝自来水，没有任何问题。

Garn53
A bold move but one of many starting points.

这是一个大胆的举动，但是会是许多个起点之一

Oldcurm
When our local recycling center got the word of China not taking plastic any more they did some investigating.  Apparently part of China's problem was the idiocy and willful ignorance of people who couldn't or didn't want to understand the concept of what goes into the recycling bins.  People who used the recycle bins for trash.  Apparently one of the big concerns were the number of dirty diapers that came along with the plastics.  Sigh.

当我们当地的回收中心听到中国不再接收塑料的消息时，他们做了一些调查。显然，这事的一部分问题是，某些白痴和故意装无知的人不去或不想了解什么是投进回收箱这个概念。显然，最令人担忧的是与塑料一起出现的脏尿布的数量。叹气

Underside of power
What a depressing finding. Clearly, the issue of plastic waste goes far beyond a straw in a turtle's nose. Consumers will need to start with their own choices. Compostable alternatives exist for many single-use plastic items; I use degradable trash bags. We will also no doubt need Federal action to put pressure on manufacturers. 

Everyone should care about this issue.

多么令人沮丧的调查啊。显然，塑料废物的问题比乌龟鼻子里的吸管严重多了。消费者需要从自己的选择开始注意。许多一次性塑料物品都有可堆肥的替代品；我就在使用可降解垃圾袋。毫无疑问，我们也需要联邦行动向制造商施加压力。
每个人都应该关心这个问题

12man
Federal action?  Good luck with that.  

联邦行动？祝你好运。

Incida mcandrew
I used to compost my veggies in a small section of my back yard. Now my town has composting that includes things like chicken bones. My kids in Brooklyn freeze theirs then throw it into NYC's weekly compost collection.

We could do this if we tried.

我曾经在我后院的一小块地里用我的蔬菜堆肥。现在我的小镇里的堆肥还包括鸡骨头等东西。我在布鲁克林的孩子们冷冻了这些东西，然后把它扔进纽约市的每周堆肥收集里。
如果我们尝试的话，我们可以做到的。

Grateful fed
Gee, looks like we're going to have to figure out how to deal with all the waste we generate, like, taking responsibility for our actions.  The horror.

Time to start taxing the heck out of manufacturers that don't take measures to cut back on the volume plastic crap they produce.

哎，看起来我们将不得不弄清楚如何处理我们产生的所有垃圾，像是，对我们的行为负责。这确实太恐怖了。
现在是时候开始对那些没有采取措施减少他们生产的塑料废物的制造商开始征税了。

Nancy K miller
like toxic waste, turn it back into some kind of petro chemical underground,
or something. Dinosaurs did it.

可以像有毒废物一样，把它变成某种石油化工藏在地下，或者其他类似的东西。恐龙做过的。

raywilliams
Why isn't Donald Trump reclaiming these Chinese jobs for unemployed American coal miners and other Deplorables that can't find work?

为什么唐纳德特朗普不拿回这些中国工作，提供给那些失业的美国煤矿工人和其他无法找到工作的悲哀的人？

Frazz4
What the article missed was the reality that new markets will emerge.  Already two new plastic processing plants have been announced, one in Alabama and one in South Carolina, that will take plastic packages and processing them into to pellets which will be shipped to end markets in China.  The Chinese government has announced the pellets are not subject to the ban.  Yes we have an immediate market problem, but, long term probably not.

这篇文章遗漏的是新市场将会出现的现实。目前已经有宣布了两家新的塑料加工厂，其中一家位于阿拉巴马州，另一家位于南卡罗来纳州，它们将回收塑料包装并其加工成粒料，并将其运往中国的最终市场。中国政府已经宣布这些粒料不受禁令限制。是的，我们有一个眼前的市场问题，但长期来看可能不是问题。

Garn53
Why not completely recycle it here? Why partially do it here and send it elsewhere for completion? That's more jobs and more $ staying here.

为什么不在国内完全回收废料？为什么要在这里部分完成加工并将它送到其他地方完成最终利用？这样不是能让更多的工作和更多的美元留在这里吗。

Chuckles321
China's major complaint was contamination- which is caused by lazy recyclers who don't rinse and let dry bottles, put food-contaminated plastic, paper, and glass in the stream. Single stream recycling made things easy, and also resulted in massive contamination of recyclable products.

中国主要的投诉是污染 - 这是由懒惰的回收商造成的，他们不冲洗和干燥瓶子，将食物污染的塑料，纸张和玻璃投入河流中。单流循环利用是使事情变得简单了，但是也导致可回收产品的大量污染。

Farmer-jerry194758
There is no solution and we can only minimize thru full recycle...How do you bring from store 1 gallon milk,or other liquid for consumption ???

没有解决方案，我们只能尽量将整个回收最小化...不然你要怎么从商店取回1加仑牛奶，或其他液体？

Incida mcandrew
Will China levy a tariff on American garbage? 

中国会对美国垃圾征收关税吗？

Jim mapel
Just shoot it into the sun. Problem solved.

只需将垃圾发射到太阳上，问题就解决了。

Disrupter
we will all be dead soon,.. thanks to our STUPIDITY.!!!!!!

我们很快就要死了，..感谢我们的愚蠢！！！！！！！！！