quora：为什么到过中国和美国的人认为中国更安全？（下） [美国媒体]

Why do tourists who have visited both the USA and China think the latter is safer？

quora：为什么到过中国和美国的人认为中国更安全？（下）



Perry Jones
Perry Jones, Investment Advisor (2013-present)
Answered Jun 16
I would say it’s because China is safer than the US if you look at all the statistics.

我要说的是从所有统计上来看，中国远远比美国安全。

I have traveled across southern China alone and I almost never felt in danger. I have traveled to 35 states and almost every large city in the US and I have been mugged 3 times, chased twice, been yelled at and ridiculed and of course there are some places I would not dare go. I would not expect I would have that sort of experience in China.

我一个人在南中国旅行，几乎没遇到危险。我去过美国的35个州和几乎每一个大城市，在此期间，我遭遇了3次抢劫、两次被追赶、被人大喊大叫、被嘲笑当然还有一些我不敢去的地方。我不希望在中国体验到这个。

Why is there a difference? I believe it is based on culture. The US was born in revolution, evolved and expanded through warfare and tamed the west with guns. We are a culture of violence. As a nation of immigrants, we are one people only on the basis of being of one nation of d beliefs governed by a Constitution. But as a nation of immigrants, that meant we had to leave homes, friends and family to walk into the unknown with death as our possible reward. That creates a unique perspective on life. We lived in harsh conditions and we had to fight for what we believed in whether we fought against nature, wild animals, bandits and thieves, gunslingers or neighbors. The reality we lived in has created a culture where violence is a characteristic, not an exception of life in America.

造成这种差别的原因我认为是文化。美国是在革命中诞生的，在战争中不断扩张侵略，并以武力征服西方。我们是暴力文化。作为一个移民国家，我们是一体的这个概念只有以宪法为基础并受其支配才能实现。但作为一个移民国家，这意味着我们必须离开家庭、朋友和家族，以伴随着死亡的未知作为回报。这造就了一个独特的人生观。我们生活在恶劣的环境中，我们必须为自己的信念而战，不管我们是与自然、野生动物、强盗和小偷、枪手还是邻居作战。我们生活的现实创造了一种文化，暴力是它的特征，而不是美国例外论。

I don’t know a lot about the history of China or the other Asian nations except that it seems to me they never experienced “A” type personalities dying and fighting to live in a harsh land.

我不太了解中国或其他亚洲国家的历史，但对我来说有点可惜的是，他们从来没有经历过“美式”类型的严酷大陆的死亡与战斗。

Don Tan
Don Tan
Answered Jun 21
There is a difference in the crime cultures and justice system of China and USA.

中美两国的犯罪文化和司法系统存在差异。

Crimes are also rampant in China, in terms of scams and corruption, but criminals generally know that they mustn't cross the line. Major crimes like drug trafficking and murder are punished very severely in China, with death sentences being virtually guaranteed. (It also helps that death sentences effectively prevent such criminals from committing more crimes, thereby further reducing crime rates.) The government is often eager to meet out such sentences to set a public example to show to the people that it is not soft on crime. Criminals typically commit crimes to make money. Money is only useful when one is alive to spend it. The consequences of committing violent crimes become less acceptable to criminals, thus reducing the rate of violent crimes.

在中国也有欺诈和腐败方面的犯罪，但犯罪分子一般都知道他们不能越线操作。在中国，像贩毒和谋杀这样的重大犯罪行为遭到严惩，死刑是逃不了的。(这也有助于有效预防犯罪，从而进一步降低犯罪率。)政府经常急于想要达成死刑判决，以树立一个对犯罪决不姑息的公众榜样。罪犯通常为了赚钱而犯罪。只有当一个人活着的时候，钱才有用。暴力犯罪的后果对罪犯来说变得不容易被接受，从而降低了暴力犯罪率。

In the US, there is a pro-crime system which encourages risk-taking. The punishment for drug pushing is relatively light, limited to jail time of varying duration. Parole is often available. And if you can afford a good lawyer, one can easily walk free without any punishment. Considering that crime pays pretty well, the monetary benefits of committing a crime outweighs the potential punishment (which is non-life threatening anyway). They get released some time later, and go back to their life of crime for the easy money.
The same person is allowed to commit more crimes in his lifetime, whereas in China, the criminal would be sentenced to death (and that's the end of story). The culminating effect of the former across the population will drastically raise the crime rate.
On a personal note, I think the proportion of law-abiding citizens is more or less the same in any country. Crime rates are largely determined by how the small minority of criminals and how many times they are allowed to commit crime.

在美国，有一个鼓励冒险和犯罪的制度。对毒品犯罪的惩罚相对较轻，通常是时间有限的监禁，经常假释。假如你能负担得起一个好律师，你就可以轻易自由行走，没有任何惩罚。考虑到罪犯付钱豪爽，犯罪的收益大于潜在的惩罚(至少不会没命)。他们在监狱里待一段时间就会被释放，然后重操旧业赚快钱。

Greg Blandino
Greg Blandino, works at Beijing, China
Answered Jun 14
I would agree with the video that while China and the US are both pretty safe, China has less violent crime and the US has less traffic fatalities and safer food. I will note that both of those statistics are likely improving, with the US violent crime much improved as the millennial generation de-suburbanizes and driving and food regulations get implemented in China.

油管视频链接被我删了
我同意视频里的观点：中国和美国都很安全。中国的暴力犯罪更少，美国的交通事故死亡人数更少还有食品安全方面美国也更好。我要注意的是，随着千禧一代搬去郊区后驾驶法规和食品法规在中国实施，中国的这两项统计数据（交通事故死亡及视频安全）都有可能得到改善同样美国的暴力犯罪也会有很大的改善。

On a funny note, I have only been a victim of a violent crime in China and only been in a car accident in America, so all of these things are statistical, and your mileage may vary.

有趣的是，我在中国是一个暴力犯罪的受害者，在美国这只是一起车祸。所有这些东西都是统计意义上的，不一样的可能只有里程。

Finally, there is a regional and geographical component. A well-to-do suburb in the US has no violent crime to speak of, or certain cities are known from having a more aggressive culture. Beijing is aggressive by Chinese standards but less so than say Pittsburgh or Philadelphia, on the other hand Dongbei is more aggressive than those two cities (well maybe not Philly) but the hoods don't have guns. Also what would be an assault in America often goes unreported in China as the police push both parties to “come to an agreement” about compensation rather than charging people.

最后，还有一个区域和地理组成的差异。在美国，富人区没有暴力犯罪可言，某些城市则更有活力，以中国标准来说北京是一个富有进取心的城市，但不如匹兹堡或费城。另一方面，东北地区比这两个城市(也许不是费城)更有侵略性，但兜里没有枪。此外，在美国，袭击经常不上报而是直接罚款；在中国，警察则会推动双方达成补偿协议。

James Chrisholm
James Chrisholm, Interested in China
Answered Jun 19
I have been to Beijing, Tianjing and Hangzhou. I have been to New York, San Francisco, Florida and Las Vegas.

我去过北京、天津和杭州；我也去过纽约、旧金山和拉斯维加斯。

I will say that China feels safer. There isn't any ghettos that you would unwittingly step into. Chinese people are loud and sometimes quarrelsome but they are less inclined to resort to unarmed or armed violence. Ladies walking in the streets are less likely to be accosted.

我会说中国感觉更安全。没有任何你会不小心踏入的贫民区。中国人很吵，有时还吵架，但他们不太倾向于诉诸非武装或武装暴力。在街上的女士也不太可能被搭讪。

Miffy Seal
Miffy Seal, LLM from Ehime University (1999)
Answered Jun 14
Very effective community policing and forced confessions that you see in Japan, South Korea make the People’s Republic of China, South Korea, and Japan very safe.

保甲法和刑讯逼供非常有效，中日韩因之而安全。

Also, extremely effective in South Korea and Japan is the national culture that strongly frowns upon odd, suspicious behavior & activities which will lead to immediate Police investigations and possible Police Raids.

还有，韩国和日本的国家文化强烈排斥怪人，可疑的行为和活动，这强烈促使警察调查和突检。

Nicolas Tsuei
Nicolas Tsuei, lives in China
Answered Jun 21
I have lived in Beijing for nearly 18 years. It’s something like that Beijing can be the safest metropolis in this planet. And most places in China are also safe.
Why?

我在北京住了将近18年。北京是这个星球上最安全的城市，中国别的地方也一样安全。
为什么？

The MOST important reason I think is guns forbidden, which can decrease the violences in a rather low level.

禁枪是最大的原因，枪禁是暴力犯罪降低到了一个相当低的水平。

Also Chinese are relatively mild. We suffered a lot in the twenty century .

同时中国人相当温和，在上个世纪我们受了太多苦难。

That does not mean all the places are safe in China. In some remote areas, it is dangerous outside in the night.

这些并不意味着中国所有地方都安全，在一些偏远地区，晚上出门很危险。

Liang Xiao
Liang Xiao
Answered Jun 19
First of all, China bans guns. In this way, society is safe.

1.中国禁枪。因为这个社会安全了。

Secondly, Chinese allows children to quarrel, but can't fight.

2.中国人允许小孩吵架但不许真打。

Third, Chinese encourage children to forgive and .

3.中国人鼓励原谅和。。。

Fourth, the Chinese are against private trials.

4.中国人反对私设公堂。

Fifth, the Chinese people's living gap is relatively small.

5.中国人的生活差距相当小。

Sixth, traditional culture. The Chinese think it is cowardly to beat oneself. The true warrior is on the battlefield, facing the enemy army. To put it simply, if there is a conflict in the basketball match, it should be solved on the court. A man who fights is a coward.

6.传统文化。中国人认为欺负人是懦夫才做的事，真男人都是战场上直面敌军。简单地说，篮球赛中的冲突应该在球场上解决。打架的人是懦夫。

Miki Wu
Miki Wu
Answered Jun 13
I know this channel, he doesn’t criticize China, he just shows it the way it is. I am an Overseas Chinese and I spent a year in China to study Chinese(yeah, that’s a long story…), I can confirm most of what he says in his videos.

我知道这个频道，他并没有批评中国，他只是将他所见展示出来而已。我是一个海外华人,花了一年时间在中国学习汉语(是的,说来话长…),我能证实他视频中的大部分内容

In this one he explained it well: there are fewer violent crimes in China but scams and thieves are omnipresent. I don’t think that the crime rate of China is lower than other countries, it’s just that they commit “minor” crimes, so you don’t really mind having 100 being pickpocketed vs being robbed at gun point.


有一点他解释得很好：在中国，暴力犯罪较少，但骗子和小偷到处都是。我不认为中国的犯罪率比其他国家低，但那些至多是小偷小摸。因此，你大可不必随身携带100欧元在钱包里用来打点持枪抢劫。

Besides, if one of your countryman has been murdered in nation A, would it make you want to travel to said nation?

此外，如果你的同胞在某国被杀，你还会想去那里旅行吗

Manish Sharma
Manish Sharma, Living in Shenzhen, China since 2015. Have seen little bit of China.
Updated Jun 17
First thing first, - Winston is not critics of China, he just tell the truth from outsider point of view. He actually started his YouTube channel to show that China is not all what western media portrays, good side of China.

首先可以确定的是，首先，温斯顿并不是批评中国，他只是从局外人的角度来讲述真相。实际上，他在youtue上展现了中国好的一面，跟西方媒体描绘的明显不同。

I am not a tourist, I have lived in US for around a year ( traveled around few places in US as well) and now living in China.

我并非游客。我在美国住了多年（只在美国少数几个城市游览过），现在我在中国。

My reason is simple which makes me feel safe in China safe as compare to US

我留在中国的原因很普通，我感觉中国比美国安全。

There are lot of people, where ever you go, all the time. Late night or early morning or regular hour subway, bus ride, BBQ, restaurant, on streets. If I am lost, need help with direction or anything there are lot of people around to ask. In US, everyone use car, people are less, you will not find anyone on street to even ask for direction or any other kind of help.

那里人山人海，到处都是，无时无刻。深夜或凌晨或运营中的的地铁站，乘坐公交、烧烤、餐馆、街上。要是我在以上任意地点迷路，不用担心问路，这里有的是人让你问。美国美国人都驾车，街上人少到你找不到问路的人。

Willard Shank
Willard Shank, Air-Conditioning Mechanic at Data Centers
Answered Jul 8
My friend Paul is a white guy married to Wendy, a Chinese woman and he has told me the story of how they were in Beijing getting into a transit bus when he felt a hand on his wallet pocket. He made a fuss, Wendy started screaming in Mandarin, cops appeared out of nowhere and grabbed the pickpocket, subduing him with their nightsticks before he could escape. It works for me.

我的朋友保罗是一个白人，和一个中国女人结婚。他告诉我他们在北京的故事：在公交车上，他发觉有人把手伸进他钱包里，吓了一大跳。他的老婆Wendy用普通话大喊大叫，警察很快出现并捉获扒手。小偷逃跑前就被警棍制服，这种执勤方式我喜欢。

Mervyn Locke
Mervyn Locke, Enlightened laowai/Decade-long China resident/Permanent China bull
Answered Wed
Why? Because it is. Ok maybe not in terms of traffic safety or long-term effects from air pollution, but in every other respect. Can barely understand that this question is asked in the first place.

还问为什么？本来就是这样！好吧，可能不是因为交通安全或长期空气污染的影响中国才安全的。几乎无法理解我为什么要被问这种问题。

Simon Ou
Simon Ou, lives in Foshan, Guangdong, China
Answered Jun 21
As we all know China is one of the country have largest population , people are everywhere . So when you in danger , you can yell and ask help , no everybody is hero , but always have someone help you.

众所周知，中国人口世界第一，到处都是人。所以当你身处危险之中时，你可以大声呼叫寻求帮助，不是每个人都是英雄，但总有人会帮你。

So when traveling in China , just remember not go alone , not go some place too quiet , watch out the bag and cellphone , not give thief any chance. You will find China is one of the most safe and convenience country in the world.

小偷小摸很多。
所以在中国旅游时不要独自出门，不要去一些没人的地方，看着包和手机，不要给小偷任何机会。你会发现中国是世界上最安全、最方便的国家之一。

Logic Song
Logic Song, Sales Manager at Samsung
Answered Jun 21
I put it in 3 factors:
1.Gun is forbidden for residents to use in China, but not in US .
2.The punishment by the law is more severe in China. Almost all of the deliberate murderer will be sentenced to death.
3.Due to fast-growing economy, people' s lives are getting better and better. they do not have enough reasons to rob ot steal others

我归结于三个因素：
1.中国禁枪，美国不禁。
2.中国法律森严。几乎所有的故意杀人犯都被判了死刑。
3.由于经济快速发展，人们生活越来越好。他们没有足够的理由去偷去抢。

Allen Qin
Allen Qin
Answered Tue
Apart from all the good answers already given, another interesting fact is foreigners are generally given certain special treatments in China. It can be quite explicit, like the channels dedicated to foreigners in some places, or implicit, like the additional attention received while reporting an incident to the police station. A couple of examples:

除了上面那些好答案，另一个有趣的事实是，老外在中国被特殊对待。有些很明显，比如某些地方专供外国人的电视频道；有些则比较含蓄，比如在警察局报案时得到的额外关照一样。

The Ningbo PD examined 4 ton of rubbish to successfully find a lost passport for a Russian tourist.
A stolen bike (only worth like 50 bucks) of a Japanese tourist was recovered overnight by the police.
It has gone to a point where some foreigners start a business by reporting lost property to police station on behalf of Chinese victims. These lost properties will have a much higher chance of being recovered.

几个例子:
宁波警方在将4吨垃圾翻了个底朝天后，成功地为一名俄罗斯游客找到了丢失的护照。
警察在一夜之间找到了失窃的自行车(只值50美元)。
在某种程度上，老外代报案成为一种生意，相比中国人，找老外代报案有更大的机会找到丢失的财物。

It’s quite bizarre but it’s true. A typical Chinese citizen would never expect such treatment from the police. Don’t get me wrong, it’s the same in western countries. If you lost a phone, the chance of recovering it by the police is quite slim. It’s just only foreigners can get these special treatments in China.

这个离奇的事情是真的。一个典型的中国公民绝不会期望警察给他们这样的对待。别误会我的意思，在西方国家也一样，如果你丢了手机，警察找回它的机会十分渺茫。只有外国人才能在中国享受到这种特殊待遇。

Farah Ibrahim
Farah Ibrahim, studies International Studies & Japanese at Rhodes College (2020)
Answered Jun 13
Well to start out, amongst beloved countries, we have a very high level of crime. Even many developnig countries (even some Africa) have sometimes ranked higher than the US in safety. Consider the number of massacres and serial killings we have (much, much higher than any other developed country). Consider our ridiculous number of people incarcerated in this country (our country has around 5% of the world population yet a 1/4 of its prison population. Also consider the fact that, unlike most developed countries which have strict gun control laws, we have pretty lax laws when it comes to guns and thus there are more guns personally owned here than there are people in the US. Factor in a history of segregation and slavery and police brutality towards minorities, a history that absolutely effects us until this day, and it becomes easier to understand why America is a “dangerous” country to live when compared to most of the world. However, there's the fact that America is such a huge country and obviously some places are more dangerous than others (compare Memphis, TN to Richmond, VA for example) so the question of whether America is dangerous or not really depends on where you are at the moment. As for China, I am unfortunately unable to give you too much insight into th since I have never been there and haven’t studied enough into their crim statistics to give an accurate answer. But I hope this answers your queetion as best as it can!

首先，在这个我最爱的国家中，美国的犯罪率非常高。甚至有许多发展中国家(甚至是一些非洲国家)在安全方面的排名有时也比美国高。想想我们所拥有的杀人惨案和连环杀人犯的数量(远远高于其他发达国家)。想想我们在这个国家被监禁的人数吧(我们国家人口大约占世界5%，但却拥有世界上四分之一的监狱人口。）此外，与大多数拥有严控枪支的发达国家不同，我们在枪支问题上管控相当宽松，因此在这里的个人持枪数比美国人口还多。种族隔离、奴隶制和警察对少数民族的暴行，这一历史因素对我们的影响一直持续到今天，并且让我们更容易理解为什么与世界上大多数国家相比美国是一个“危险”的国家。然而，事实是上美国是一个巨大的国家，地方大的话有些地方显然比其他地方更危险(相比孟菲斯、田纳西州和里士满，弗吉尼亚)，所以美国是否危险的问题取决于你目前在美国的位置。至于中国，我很遗憾不能给你太多的见解，因为我从来没有去过那里，也没有对他们的犯罪数据统计进行过足够的研究，所有无法给出一个确切的答案。我希望这个答案对你的问题有帮助!