没有与中国的贸易，葡萄牙和西班牙就不会成为后来的帝国 [美国媒体]

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Without Chinese trade Portugal and Spain would not become the Empires they were

没有与中国的贸易 葡萄牙和西班牙就不会成为后来的帝国.


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–]_shackleton 11 指标 1 天前 
how did the Chinese create the new world in 1565?

中国是如何在1565年创造新世界的?

[–]BillyBattsShinebox 8 指标 1 天前 
Perhaps you should start by explaining the importance of China in supporting the growth of the Spanish and Portuguese empires? Right now all you've done is made a claim and say China's past has always been excellent.

或许你应该从解释清楚中国在西班牙和葡萄牙帝国的成长中的重要性开始? 现在 你仅仅只是一味的宣称中国的过去多么厉害 .

[–]Fojar38 4 指标 1 天前 
China played a role in the sense that China only trading for silver led the Spanish and Portuguese to lean heavily on American colonies to extract the stuff but that's not really a Chinese role in "creating the New World." That's entirely incidental to what was happening especially since precious metals boosted an empire's treasury independent of what China accepted at any given time.

某种意义上中国的确起了作用 中国在(与两牙的)贸易中只需要白银 这致使西班牙和葡萄牙严重依赖美洲殖民地来开采白银. 但这并不能说明中国“创造了新世界”，那完全是个附带事件，因为不论中国是否接受白银，贵金属总能增强一个帝国的财政实力。

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[–]PolypinoonEuropean unx 4 指标 1 天前 
I always thought Spain and Portugal discovering and heavily colonizing the Americas had a bigger impact on them growing into powerfull nations.

我之前一直认为西班牙和葡萄牙对美洲殖民地的探索和深度开发在使他们成为强大国家上扮演了更大的作用

[–]bigbagofdumb 2 指标 1 天前 
Well now you know.

好吧 现在你知道了.
 
[–]PolypinoonEuropean unx 1 指标 1 天前 
Clearly I have been brainwashed by hostile foreign forces and their toxic facts.

显然 之前我被外国敌对势力和他们的有毒信息洗脑了.
 
[–]enxiongenxiongUnited States 3 指标 1 天前 
I am trying to read Socrates but everyone is telling me he was illiterate and didnt write any books. Now i am banned from the library. What should i do?

我尝试去读苏格拉底的书  然而人人都说他曾经是个文盲 而且从来没写过哪怕是一本书. 现在我已经被图书馆拉黑了.  我该怎么办?

[–]bigbagofdumb 2 指标 1 天前 
Read Plato
'he took notes like a motherfucker'
Socrates

去读泊拉图吧 那个混蛋总是记笔记  ---苏格拉底(是不是大意是向楼上吐槽意思是苏的学生柏总记笔记有书给他读 ????)

[–]enxiongenxiongUnited States 1 指标 1 天前 
Well i am going to ask thrasymachus questions anyway

好吧 我还会向色拉叙马库斯请教一下的.

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[–]Fojar38 8 指标 1 天前 
This is an online collaborative project to revise holes in history that point to the glorious past of China as proof of unbroken excellence of the Chinese people despite modern historical distortion.
hmmm
Sounds like a bunch of bullshit nationalist revisionism OP

这是一个在线合作项目，旨在修改历史上的漏洞，指出中国辉煌的过去，证明中国人民的卓越成就，排除现代历史的扭曲。
嗯
听起来像是一群胡说八道的民族主义和修正主义的人
 
[–]fojiaotu 4 指标 1 天前 
And (s)he bravely posted no lix to said online project.

可是他连链接都不发。
 
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[–]chill1995United Arab Emirates 3 指标 1 天前 
You are broken

你破产了。

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 [–]fojiaotu 6 指标 1 天前 
despite historical distortion
My understanding of Chinese history is shallow but I do recall a continuing theme throughout millennia of destruction of books and rewriting of histories to glorify the current leaders.
If China's own sources have poor historicity and you reject presumably foreign "modern historical distortion" how do you plan to justify any of your claims?
Lastly everyone in China knows that Socrates is an example of subversive Western philosophy. Frankly your recommending he be read disgusts me. Confucianism Mo-ism and Han Fei should be more than enough. I would report you to the relevant government authorities if I knew where you were claiming to be working. You're obviously wasting 国有资产 for your own enrichment.
Shameful.

历史有所歪曲又如何。
我对中国历史知之甚浅，但是中国千百年来历代统治者为了美化自身而毁灭古籍重新书写历史的场景，依然能浮现在我脑海里。
如果中国自己的史籍的历史真实性不高，而你又拒不相信国外所谓的没有事实依据的现代历史歪曲说，那你又如何支持你的主张呢？
最后，中国人都知道，苏格拉底是一种颠覆性的西方哲学，你建议我读他的学说，坦白地说，太恶心了。看儒家、墨家，以及韩非子的学说就足够了。如果我知道你在哪里工作，我会到相应的政府部门举报你，你就是那种为了一己私利浪费国家资产的人。
非常无耻！

[–]TheDark1 2 指标 1 天前 
All signs indicate that you are utterly bereft of useful insights. I suggest you read some books instead of writing a screed of ignorant trash.

所有这些都暴露了你的无知，我建议你多读写书，少在这里废话连篇。

[–]Psy_Doc_ 2 指标 1 天前 
I've read Socrates and I'm going to say that your project smacks of blatant nationalism.

我读过苏格拉底的书，我认为你的言论充满了十足的民族主义。