Quora: 俄罗斯人和乌克兰人认为中国整体实力比俄罗斯强吗？ [美国媒体]

Do Russians and Ukrainians think China has stronger overall strength than Russia?

俄罗斯人和乌克兰人认为中国整体实力比俄罗斯强吗？





Alexey Mironchenko, I have at least a quarter of Russian blood.
As for one Ukrainian, I don’t simply think so. I _know_ that it’s true.
China has a modern fleet while Russia marginally is a naval power. NATO cannot deny Chinese ships passage, while can do so to Russians.

作为一个乌克兰人，我不简单的这么想。 我知道这是真的
中国有现代化的舰队，而俄罗斯稍微算是一个海上强国。 北约不能拒绝中国船只通过，而可以这样对待俄罗斯人。

Economically China is a rising beast, Russia is a backwater and declining.
China has almost full Russian population of science people =).
China has a modern military and 5th gen fighters already in service, Russia has a marginally modern military with a lot of morally obsolete stuff (China has it as well, to be honest)

经济上中国是一个上升的野兽，俄罗斯是倒退的。
中国有几乎和俄罗斯人口相同的科技人员=）。
中国有一支现代化的军队并且第五代战机已经投入使用，俄罗斯有一支边缘现代化军队，有很多道义上已经过时的东西（老实说，中国也是这样）

Chinese influence in the Africa is rising, while Russia is neck-deep in Middle East with an unpredictable outcome and is regarded as an European threat in Ukraine, resulting in weak diplomatic position.

中国在非洲的影响力正在上升，俄罗斯深陷在无法预知结果的中东地区，并且在乌克兰被视为欧洲威胁，这造成了其外交势力的薄弱。

China is trading freely with all civilized World, including tech transfer, whereas Russia is under increasing pressure of economic sanctions.
China got the rover on the Moon, Russia never left GSO, and both of them got crewed vehicles and orbital stations. China is better than Russia even in space.

中国正在与所有文明世界自由贸易，包括技术转让，而俄罗斯正受到越来越大的经济制裁压力。
中国已经将探测器送到了月球上，而俄罗斯从未离开过GSO，他们都有载人航天器和轨道空间站。 中国甚至在太空上也胜过俄罗斯。

Only one thing in which Russia is better is their nuclear arsenal. However, China has _enough_ of them rockets to wipe the main Russian population centers from the face of the Earth, so that’s an effective mutual destruction, not the one-sided battle.

俄罗斯唯一更好的是他们的核武库。 然而，中国有足够的火箭从地球上抹去俄罗斯的主要人口中心，这是一个有效的相互破坏，而不是单方面的的战斗。

So Russia has nothing to counter China. The only thing that keep Russians intact apart from their nuclear might is that the rest of the world won’t tolerate such Chinese action as annexation or even making Russia a protectorate, and that Chinese are _not_ these kind of people. They prefer cultural infiltration to dirty wars and such. They already are infiltrating the Russian far East, and soon it will be effectively Chinese, regardless of those pesky legal considerations.

所以俄罗斯没法对付中国。 除了核威慑力之外，俄罗斯之所以面对中国还能保持完整，是因为全世界不允许中国吞并俄罗斯或者将俄罗斯变成其面对西方势力的“卫星国”（protectorate）的行为。与原始愚蠢的军事手段相比，中国更倾向于文化渗透。虽然中俄之间对远东有领土条约之类的法律考量因素，但实际上中国已经对远东进行了渗透，那里很快就会都是中国人了。

Igor Markov, Been there done that.
Yes, of course, but China is far from where most of those people live. China created huge and powerful companies in many sectors that continue to grow — this requires innovation and continual reforms. Russia is experiencing economic stagnation for several reasons. China is able to spend more money on reforms than Russia, so is moving faster.

当然，但中国距与这些人中大多数人生活的地方很远。 中国在许多行业中创造了巨大而强大的公司，这些企业不断发展壮大 - 这需要创新和持续性的改革。 俄罗斯经济因各种原因停滞不前。 中国能够比俄罗斯花更多的钱来进行改革，所以发展速度更快。

Nikolay Matyushev, Born in USSR
Russia and China are very different countries in some aspects Russia is stronger and in others China has upper hand. Currently China is more powerful economically but it has almost ten times the population of Russia. And if you consider debt and self sufficiency Russia looks much better.

俄罗斯和中国是非常不同的国家，在某些方面俄罗斯更强，而在其他方面，中国有较大的优势 目前，中国在经济上更为强大，但人口几乎是俄罗斯人口的十倍。 如果考虑到债务和自给自足方面，俄罗斯看起来更好。

And in terms of military strength Russia still has more power but China is closing the gap quite fast.
There’s no real confrontation between our countries and I believe it will stay like that.

而在军事实力方面，俄罗斯力量仍然更强，但中国正在缩小差距。
我们国家之间没有真正的对抗，并且我相信会保持这样的状态。

Ronald Marks, China's governance is unduly expensive along many vectors. So is the West's.
They know it. Russians understand political weakness better than any other people. When they see Putin genuflecting before China, they know who's boss.

俄罗斯人比任何其他人都更了解政治弱点。当他们看到普京屈从在中国之前时，他们知道谁才是老大。

Alexander Novikov, Was born in Soviet Union, left for good
Well, there is nothing to even think about. It is obvious that China is on a totally different scale than Russia - like, almost an order of magnitude bigger in every respect. Totally out of comparison. It is like USA vs Canada difference (except much larger cultural difference).

这没有什么可以想的。 很明显，中国与俄罗斯的规模完全不同，在各个方面都不是一个数量级。 完全没法比较。 就像美国和加拿大的差异（除了更大的文化差异）。

Irina Samoshkina, The Eastern European Country which is now struggling to beat post-Soviet syndrom
I can speak for the Ukrainians. Yes, I think China is stronger than Russia, because China has the newer generation of weaponry and is able to invest more money to make it even better.

我可以代表乌克兰人说话。 是的，我认为中国比俄罗斯更强大，因为中国有新一代的武器，能够投入更多的钱使之更好。

Cary Mcdonald, worked at Hoffmann-La Roche
Russia is one tenth the population of China… do the math.

俄罗斯的人口是中国的十分之一 做一下数学吧