REDDIT:“我刚刚从美国的联邦监狱被释放出来，在几个不同安保级别的监狱待了很多年” [美国媒体]

11 months ago by saintpetejackboyx3
Well, I was just in federal prison for importing chemicals from China. I had a website and was importing a particular chemical, MDMC. The chemical actually because Schedule I ten days AFTER I was indicted, I was indicted in 2011 with violating the "controlled substances analogues enforcement act of 1986", which actually charged me with importing MDMA.

我刚刚从联邦监狱里刑满释放，罪名是从中国进口了一些化学药剂。我有个一个网站，当时正从中国进口一些特定的化学品，MDMC。实际上这个化学品是在我被控告10天以后才上了“一级管控药物’’名单的，我是在2011年被起诉的，罪名是违反了1986年颁布的“收管控类物品强制执行法案”，简而言之就是因为进口了MDMA起诉了我。

I was sentenced to 92 months, which was dropped to 77 months thanks to "All Drugs Minus Two" legislation that was passed. Then I was immediate released less than a week ago pursuant to a motion the government filed on my behalf.
The security level prisons I were in were FCI (Medium) and USP (High). I was in the following prisons:

我被判入狱92个月，后来因为所有毒品类罪犯减刑两年条款的通过（因美国监狱囚犯太多，资源紧张），我的刑期被缩减到了77个月。然后在这一个星期之后，狱方鉴于我的表现，将我立即释放了。我待过的不同保安级别的监狱有FCI(中级）和USP（高级）我在下面的这些监狱里待过:

FCI Otisville (NY) FCI Fairton (NJ) USP McCreary (KY) FCI Jesup (GA) FCI Estill (SC)
I also was in the transfer center in Tallahassee, FL, as well as the new prison for the Virgin Islands, also located in FL. I went through another transfer center in Atlanta, GA; as well as in Brooklyn, NY (MDC), and the FTC (Federal Transfer Center) in Oklahoma.

奥蒂斯维尔联邦矫正所（纽约） 、费尔顿联邦矫正所（新泽西）、麦克雷里最高监管感化院（肯塔基）、杰瑟普联邦矫正所（乔治亚州）、埃斯蒂尔联邦矫正所（南卡罗来纳）。我还在塔拉哈西，佛罗里达的转运中心待过一段时间，还有同样坐落在佛罗里达的为美属维京群岛建造的新监狱，之外还有布鲁克林的大都会拘留所（纽约）和坐落于俄克拉何马州的联邦转运中心。

The worst prison I was at was obviously the USP in Kentucky called McCreary. Lots of gangs and violence there, drugs, alcohol, etc.; but the rest of the federal prisons were very similar.
I'm also a nerd and happen to be a programmer (php/sql mostly, I've developed proprietary software for a few companies), and a long time music producer. Been heavy on the internet since the 1990s and I'm 29 now.

我待过的最恶劣的监狱绝对是肯塔基州的麦克雷里最高监管感化院。里面有很多的帮派暴力，还有毒品，酒精等等；但其他的联邦监狱都还是很相像的。我是一个书呆子，同时也是个程序员（通常是php/sql，我曾经为几家公司设计过专用的软件），我还是个音乐制作人。自90年代起就是个重度网瘾少年，我今年29岁。

My proof is here:
https://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/
I was inmate 56147018 if you want to search me. My real name is Timothy John Michael, and I am from Saint Petersburg, FL. My friends and family all call me Jack.
Ask away!

我的资料在这；
https://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/如果你们想要搜索我的话，我的囚犯编号是56147018 。我的真名叫蒂莫西.约翰.迈克尔，我来自圣彼得堡，佛罗里达。我的朋友和家人们都管我叫杰克。
开问吧！



Fahias  11 months ago
Is it possible to survive in prison just being neutral and minding your own business. Or are you forced to be part of a group?

如果你在监狱里保持中立，只管好自己的事情能不能生存的下去？还是说你会被迫成为某个帮派的一员？

saintpetejackboy  11 months ago
Well, in an FCI, yes, in a USP, no, even as a white if you are not a gang member, you ride "independent" with whatever state you are from. With Spanish people, like Mexicans in particular, they have a non-gang gang as well, Pisa.

在一个联邦矫正所没问题，在最高监管感化院的话就不行了，而且作为一个白人如果你不是一个帮派成员，你和其他一些和你来自同个州的家伙们“单独行动”。像那些说西班牙语的人，比方说墨西哥人，他们也有一个不是帮派的帮派，Pisa。

Fahias  11 months ago
And what do you need to do to be part of a gang? And what type of thing should you consider for joining a group?

你需要做些什么才能成为帮派的一员呢？在你加入一个帮派前需要考虑些什么问题？

saintpetejackboy  11 months ago
You don't need anything, most gangs do something called probate or prospect, where potential members are put under strict review and scrutiny, and then usually they have some kind of initiation ceremony. Most of the white gangs, you'll have to beat or stab somebody for them to gain membership. For some gangs though, like the GDs (Gangster Disciples), they don't jump people in, they bless them in with gifts and other things and really, that was one of the better gangs I seen as far as, they protect their members at all costs and try to cut down on bullshit. When they opened a new federal USP down in Yazoo, Mississippi (*spelling?) they took the main GDs from the compound I was at and used them to "open" the prison, just to give you an idea, they are even recognized for their behavior by the prison system. The worst gangs though, by far, are the aryan and white gangs

你什么事情都不用干，大部分帮派会做一些认证和提前观察，潜在的新成员们都会收到严格的监视和审查，然后通常他们会有一些新进仪式。在大部分的白人帮派中，你得帮他们揍谁一顿或者捅谁你一下才能获得成员的身份。不过像一些其他的帮派，比如GDs，他们不会扑到你身上，他们会用礼物和其他东西来祝福你，真的，这是我见过的比较好的帮派中的一个，他们会拼尽所有保护自己的成员，而且没有其他乱七八糟的规矩。当联邦政府像在亚祖建立一个新的监狱时，他们把GDs的成员们都送到了新监狱里好让这监狱有个好的开始。这么说你们明白了吧，他们代表着监狱中最好的表现。至于最恶劣的帮派，只能是雅利安人帮派和白人帮派了。

ElDoggy 11 months ago
Would you mind expanding on why the aryan and white gangs are the worst?

你介意解释一下吗？为什么雅利安人和白人的帮派是最恶劣的？

saintpetejackboy 11 months ago
Meh, they cause a lot of violence and usually seemed to be the ones getting all the drugs in. They really take advantage of the guys trying to join their gangs (the ones I seen, anyways). So I mean, when I say they are the worst, I mean as far as fighting, stabbing and stuff like that, if we get locked down everybody would go "God damn white boys at it again", I mean, that is 90% of the time a good guess for why we were getting locked down.

不介意，他们引发了很多的暴力事件，然后通常把毒品带进监狱的也是他们。他们真的会狠狠地利用那些想要加入他们帮派的新人。（我看到的情况是这样的）所以当我说他们是最恶劣的时候，我的意思是每当我们因为打架，捅人或者其他一些行为被关紧闭的时候，每个人都会起哄“我去，又是这群白人男孩!”

fielderwielder 146 points 11 months ago
Is this because white gangs are outnumbered so they feel the need to act crazier to be threatening?

是不是因为白人帮派人数比较少，所以他们觉得自己必须要装的疯狂一点，更有威胁性一点？

saintpetejackboy 11 months ago
Possibly, they also have a more strict mentality towards their own members and their own race. They take often times things that are no big deal and blow them out of proportion. I think a lot of it is boredom, at the end of the day...

可能吧，不过他们通常会更多地去折磨自己的团队成员和同样的白人。他们经常会对一些无关紧要的事情小题大做。我觉得他们的行为显得很无聊，尤其是在一天结束的时候。

Bricks_For_Hands  11 months ago
Not sure if you've already mentioned this yet, but are you white? And how did you race affect your experience?

我不清楚你提及过没有，你是白人吗？还有你的肤色对你有什么影响吗？

saintpetejackboy11 months ago
Yes, I am white, and I would say, being white is difficult in prison, but only because how the other white people act, in general. It is long and complicated to explain, but the black guys and spanish guys seem to have an easier time with their own people and getting along with one another and each other.

是的，我是个白人，我得说，在监狱里当个白人很难，但通常这些困难都来自其他白人的行为。这话题解释起来就太长，太复杂了。不过黑人和西班牙裔人对自己人的时候都很轻松，他们之间可以相处得很好。

[deleted] 11 months ago
Maybe it's because they are white supremacists

也许他们是白人至上主义者。

90DaysNCounting 11 months ago
Or the white people who go in are crazier than the black. It takes more for a white guy to go to prison.

或者说进去得白人就是要比黑人更疯一点。白人要犯比黑人更大的罪才会被送进监狱。

ShiftingLuck  11 months ago
That's an interesting theory

这是个有意思的想法。

admbrotario  11 months ago
I might be late for this, but as someone that only seen prison in Movies and Shows could a white join a mexican or black gang?

也许我来的有点晚了，但作为一个只在电视里看过监狱的人我想知道，白人可以加入一个墨西哥或者黑人的帮派吗？

saintpetejackboy30 points 11 months ago
White can join black gangs, but I never seen them in Mexican gangs really.

白人可以加入黑人帮派，但是我真的没见过他们加入墨西哥人的帮派。

Birdlover1233 22 points 11 months ago
How do the Nazis react to white people joining blacks?

那些纳粹党们对白人加入黑人有反应？

ShiftingLuck 11 months ago
Violently would be my guess

暴力吧，我猜。

heyuyeahu 6 points 11 months ago
what gangs do asians join? is there an asian one or do they just attach to another

那亚洲人加入什么帮派呢？有亚洲帮吗？还是说他们只是被其他人欺负。

Murgie  11 months ago

象棋俱乐部吧，通常是。

2DogDay 11 months ago
I'm a whiteboy too that did a little time in jail so take no offense to what I'm about to say but: I think the reason the white gangs are worse is that the average white person that goes to jail/prison is worse than the average minority.The percentage of white people in society that get convicted of their crimes is really low so you have to be either really unlucky (I like to think I'm in this category) or really fucked up to get put in jail as a white person.On the other hand, the percentage of minorities that get incarcerated is much higher. Insert your favorite cause and effect analysis as to why this is but the fact remains. You can be a fairly regular black guy and find yourself in jail or prison. It's a special case to be a white guy in prison. I hadn't thought of this until I spent some time in jail but it became clear to me very quickly that the average minority in there was pretty "normal" while the average white guy was a bit out there. That's not to say there aren't bad minorities, its just on an individual by individual basis, it's more likely they will be more reasonable.

我也是个在里面蹲过一小段时间的白人。没有想要冒犯的意思，但是我觉得在里面的白人帮派比其他人更恶劣的原因是，一般进去的白人普遍来讲比其他进去的人要恶劣一些。在社会中，白人被判有罪的比率并不高，所以你要吗是和我一样倒了大霉，要吗是你犯了些大事才会送进来。另一方面，少数族裔的被判有罪的概率要高很多。你们尽情地分析一下这种情况为什么会出现。你可以是个普普通通的黑人男子然后就被送进了监狱。在监狱里服刑地白人是很特殊的存在，我之前从来没有想过这些问题，直到我在监狱里待了一段时间后我很快就发现了，大部分少数族裔的罪犯平均上来看还是比较“正常”的，而监狱里的白人从平均上来看就已经很不正常了。我不是说那些少数族裔不是坏人，只是从个人对个人的角度上来看，他们看起来比白人理性多了。

saintpetejackboy 11 months ago
Hey, this has a lot of truth to it and is not very biased at all, just a good observation.

嘿，你说的很多都是真实的，并没有任何偏见，只是很好的观察。

Naitsrk 11 months ago
My dad got out of Florence federal prison in Colorado this past January. Boy oh boy the stories he has about these gangs. They're big pussycats mostly but will do anything the boss says. He ended up running the place and got in only a couple fights in the entire year. it was more about the people he helped in all of the gangs which made him so popular though, not the fights. They all still owe him and they all loved him for the good things he did. He's white and surprisingly (not surprisingly) mainly got in fights with the aryan brotherhood guys

我爸今年一月刚才科罗拉多州的弗洛伦斯联邦监狱里出来。苍天啊，他带回来的那些关于各个帮派的故事。他们大部分人都是一些软脚虾不过会听从老大的任何吩咐。最后我老爹完全掌控了这个地方，在一年里只打了几次架。这是因为他帮助了那些来自不同帮派的人才会让他如此收到尊重，而不是靠打架。他们现在任然觉得亏欠着他并且为了他做的那些好事依然爱着他。他是个白人，但是大部分的时候和他打架的是一些雅利安兄弟会的人。

safebrowseatwork 11 months ago
Your dad was "running the place". K.

你老爹“掌控着这个地方”呵呵~

AlexanderBolwinkle  11 months ago
Somebodies dad runs the place, why not his

总要有人掌控这个地方，为什么不能是他老爹呢。。

wilkesbooth20  11 months ago
cuz he was only there a year.. that kind of influence takes years of work usually..

因为他老爹才在那待了一年，要想获得这种影响力一般需要数年之久。

IamVasi 11 months ago
Do some black/white/hispanic people hang out together and not care about eachothers skin color or is it as the media potrays it?

有没有黑人/白人/拉美人在一起耍并且不介意彼此的肤色？还是说就想媒体描述的那样各玩各的。

saintpetejackboy  11 months ago
Of course, all the time, and white people too

当然有了，一直如此，白人也会一起耍。

[deleted]  11 months ago
So what group were you in

所以你是什么帮派的？

saintpetejackboy  11 months ago
I usually was just with general white people groups, actually in the USP, I rode with the Tennessee guys, because all the Florida guys there before I got there had just been beat up and kicked off the compound, and it isn't a good idea to ride solo. Most other prisons I hang out with the geeks and nerds. We get some vicious Path Finder / Dungeons and Dragons games going. 3.5 for the win, 4.0 is some shit!

我一般会在那些一般人组成的白人帮派里，实际上在USP的时候，我和一帮田纳西的伙计们混，因为在我被运送到那之前所有的佛罗里达人刚刚被臭扁了一顿。而一个人自己耍也不是个好主意。在其他一些我待过的监狱，我一般和书呆子和极客们一起耍。我们会玩一些邪恶的探路人/地下城与龙的游戏，3.5版本很有意思，4.0就是一些垃圾。