中国各省和城市的外国人口分布情况 [美国媒体]

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BillyBattsShinebox
97000 for all the other provinces combined seems too low to me considering that number includes places like Sichuan Chongqing and a few other cities with fairly large foreigner populations (Xi'an Zhengzhou Tianjin Wuhan etc).
Also does this include workers and students? Seems a bit low to include students too.

所有其他省份的总和才97000，考虑到这个数字包括四川、重庆和其他一些有着相当多的外国人口的城市（西安、郑州、天津、武汉等），我觉得这个数字可能太少了。
这也包括了工人和留学生吗？如果包括了留学生的话，这个数字也太低了。

wtiam
Liaoning has a lot of Japanese and Korean too

辽宁也有着很多日本人和韩国人。

BillyBattsShinebo
Koreans and Japanese make up a pretty large percentage of all the foreigners in China actually. They just don't stand out much.

实际上，韩国人和日本人占了相当大在华外国人总数比例。他们只是长得不太像外国人。

wtiam
Yea that's my point. Often times they are overlooked because they aren't foreign enough due to the looks.
So when I see Liaoning having 24k foreigners as a total number it seems kinda low. I've been on a work trip a few times and there are tons of Japanese and Korean companies. One would assume there would be a higher number of Koreans and Japanese in that region. Anyway just talking from my perspective don't have any data to back up the claims.

是的，这是我的观点。很多时候他们被忽略了，因为他们看起来长的不够像外国人。
所以当我看到辽宁外国人总数只有2万4千，这似乎真的有点低。我去（辽宁）工作过几次，在那有很多日本和韩国的公司。（所以）会有人认为那里有更多的韩国人和日本人。不管怎么说，从我的角度来看待（这个数据），并没有任何数据能够支撑我的说法。

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takeitchillish
Maybe most of the Koreans and Japanese are not actually working in China just go over here on frequent business trips. It is just a short flight from South Korea or Japan after all.

或许大多数的韩国人和日本人只是经常在中国出差，而不是真正的长期在中国工作。毕竟从韩国或者是日本（飞往中国）的航班时间都很短。

Europa2016
Most long term South Koreans are students learning in Chinese universities and businessmen who either own or run South Korean factories. But right now there's a mass exodus of South Koreans out of China.

大多数长期呆在中国的韩国人是在中国的大学学习的学生们以及（在华）拥有或经营着韩国工厂的商人们。但现在有一大部分的韩国人离开了中国。

Bosw04k 
It does seem pretty low but there's only Shenyang and Dalian as really big cities. Can't imagine there'd be many foreigners in the more rural parts

这个数字看起来确实很低，但只有沈阳和大连才是真正的大城市。不能想象在更多的乡村地区会有这么多外国人。

hapigood
Clearly missing the North Koreans in and around PORT OF DANDONG.

明显忽略了在丹东港的朝鲜人。

Europa2016 
They are classified as illegal immigrants by Chinese government while the rest of the civilized world think of them as refugees in hiding.
They are not legal residents of China (which this study is about) however you cut it.

他们被中国政府归类为非法移民，而文明世界的其他各国则认为他们是藏匿的难民。
他们不是中国的合法居民（这正是这篇研究要说明的），然而你把这些人都不计在内。

wtiam
True that true that Shenyang doesn't seem international much either

确实，沈阳看起来也不是那么国际化。

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takeitchillish
Chongqing does not have a large foreign population. Around 10000 or so. Very small expat scene with very few foreign restaurants and expat bars. Maybe a bit more now with all the African and Middle Eastern students here now on the Chinese government stipend. Xian would probably seem more international but that is only because Xian gets tons of international tourists compared to other cities in China. Chengdu has a larger foreign population compared to Chongqing and Xian.

重庆并没有大的外国人口。10000左右吧。外国氛围不强，外国餐馆和外国酒吧都很少。所有的非洲和中东留学生可以享受中国政府津贴，现在可能会多点了。可能西安可能看起来更国际化，但这仅仅因为西安的外国游客比中国其他城市多很多。跟重庆和西安相比，成都有着更多的外国人口。 

JackStraw7_4
I've heard the number for ChengDu is 25000. I'm assuming that number doesn't count those on tourist visas either...

我听说成都外国人口的人数有25000。我估计这个数字可能没有把旅游签证的给算上。

KyleEvans
I’m not sure about that 25K number because I believe the same source for that said there were more foreigners living in Beijing than Shanghai which I find unlikely.
It’s probably 15K to 20K and didn’t get specified here because it was just under an arbitrary cut-off of 20K. I suspect Chengdu expat population is growing faster percentage-wise than almost all other large cities.
This data is probably only useful for relative comparisons since who knows how old it is.

我不太肯定2万5千这个数字，因为我确信这篇文章的数据来源也曾报道过，在北京居住的外国人比在上海的多，而我发现这种情况不太可能会发生。
数据可能是在1万5到2万之间，这篇文章也没有明确具体数字，因为它随意就定义人数是2万。我觉得成都外籍人口几乎比所有其他大城市都增长的快。
这些数据可能在作比较的时候才有用，毕竟谁知道它是多久以前的了。

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hadowwalkerxdbx
This might of just shown how the "Chinese" are Han Chinese. They have very little diversity and ur right these already pathetic numbers this coastline has cities all up it as large as NY or larger.

这可能只是显示了为什么中国人都是汉族。他们之间差异不大，你说对，这些可悲的数字使得海岸线上的每个城市都像纽约一样甚至更大。

pferdemann
Those numbers are way too low all around! Probably Chinese government data. When you consider that half of the educators live there illegally without registering it's no surprise. Anyone else remember what a shitshow it was during the last census when they were going door to door and everyone was freaking out that they would get deported?
Btw: Most of you guys are underestimating it too because you think of foreigners only as white and black people. But because the majority of foreigners is actually Asian or Asian looking (like ABC BBC aso) you wouldn't even know when you pass them on the street.

那些数字太少了！ 可能是中国政府的数据。当你考虑到一半非法生活在那里却没有登记的教育者时，你就不会觉得奇怪了。 任何人都记得上次人口普查期间，当调查人员一家家拜访时，所有人都很惊慌怕自己会被驱逐出境吗？
顺带一提：你们中的大多数人也低估了，因为你一想到外国人脑海中就只出现白人和黑人。 但是因为大多数外国人实际上是亚洲人或长得像亚洲人的人（像美籍华人（ABC）和美国黑人（BBC）等等），当他们在大街上在你身边走过时你甚至不会知道。

BillyBattsShinebox
Pretty hard to count illegal immigrants don't you think? Also how do you figure that "half" the teachers in China are here illegally? Maybe it's like that in tier 1 cities but I'm not sure I've ever even met anybody working on a tourist visa where I live and I know a fair number of foreigners here.

你不觉得很难计算非法移民的数量吗？ 另外你怎么得出在中国任教的老师有一半是非法过来的？ 也许在一级城市可能会那样，但我不确定在我生活的地方我曾经遇到过任何用旅游签证工作的人。而且在这里我知道认识相当多的外国人。

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pferdemann
“Pretty hard to count illegal immigrants don't you think?”
Didn't say it wasn't. My point was it's not surprising the numbers are too low when you consider that fact.
Many countries do release estimated numbers on illegeal immigration but China doesn't obviously because that would be unharmonious and just confuse their subjects citizens.
Of course that half figure isn't backed up by anything there are no official numbers. So these numbers OP posted are just as useless.

你不觉得统计非法移民人数是相当困难的吗？
没有说它不是，我的想法是，当你考虑到这种情况的时候，你所得到的数据如果很低，是一点也不奇怪的。
许多国家会发布有关非法移民人数的估量值，但中国不这么做，显然是因为这是不和谐因素会引发公民的困惑。
当然，这一半的数字没有任何官方数据的支持。所以这些被张贴出来的数据也是无用的。

NKamazing
They probably include the ones with residence permit which should include workers and students. I can't really uate whether the numbers seems low or enough but feels like they are a bit underestimated. In Shanghai downtown you meet more foreigners than local Chinese! It's crazy sometimes feels like you're not in China at all!

他们可能包括有居住许可证的工人和学生。我无法正确地评价这个数字是否是低了还是刚好，但总感觉像是有点被低估了。在上海市中心，你所遇到的外国人比当地的中国人还要多，这很不可思议，有时候你会感觉一点也不像是在中国。

DavesESL
“In Shanghai downtown you meet more foreigners than local Chinese! It's crazy sometimes feels like you're not in China at all!”
That's just one city (possibly the richest and biggest in China) in one area which has a lot of tourists and business people. Go beyond that to the rest of China and it's a big black hole.

在上海市中心，你所遇到的外国人比当地的中国人还要多，这很不可思议，有时候你会感觉一点也不像是在中国。这可能只是某个（可能是中国最富有和最大的）城市的情况，在这个城市里有很许多的游客和商人。它超越中国其他的城市，是一个大黑洞。

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kanada_kid
Those numbers in Fujian seem way tooo high. Outside of Xiamen I havent noticed that many foreigners and I refuse to believe 63000 live there unless 60000 of them are Koreans.

福建的（外国人口）人数好像太高了。在厦门我都没有注意到有那么多外国人。我不相信有63000的外国人住在那里，除非其中60000是韩国人。

takeitchillish
Most of the foreigners come from other Asians country hence you will not see if the person is a foreigner or not on the streets. Yeah there are FEW foreigners in Fujian. I remember I went to Fuzhou and wherever I went people stared and yelled hello at me. Way fewer foreigners there compared to any second-tier city in China.

大多数来自亚洲其他国家的外国人如果不是走在街上，你很难看到的。是的，在福建的外国人很少。我记得当我去福州的时候，我走到哪里都有人盯着我看并且对我大喊“你好”。在中国的任何一个二线城市中，外国人更少。

komnenos
I remember visiting Fuzhou for two weeks to visit my girlfriend of the times family. I saw two foreigners (and I walked and drove the length and breath of the city) three if you count the five year old ABC that I found who was the first native English speaker I had talked to in forever. Little guy probably had no idea why I was so eager to talk to him.

我记得那时去福州看我女朋友参加家庭聚会，呆了两周。（我在那个城市漫步着，驱车探索着感受着这个城市的气息）在那我看到了两个外国人。如果你算上那个五岁大的美籍华人那就是三个，我发现他是有史以来我交谈的第一个以英语为母语的人。那小家伙大概不明白为什么我这么想跟他讲话。

Smirth  
Foreigner numbers in China are all bullshit. And never upxed. They have no interest in t

在华外国人人数全都是胡说八道。 别幻想了，他们对这个根本没有兴趣。