中国为何嫉妒巨人般的越南 [美国媒体]

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Why is China jealous of giant Vietnam?

中国为何嫉妒巨人般的越南


Benson Zhang, lived in ChinaUpdated Nov 24I'm going to be as serious as possible to answer this question.
First off, giant? Landmass?
Vietnam has a total landmass of 329 thousand square kilometres.
China has a total landmass of 9.6 Million + 470 Thousand of territorial sea,making China a nation with territory over 10 million square kilometres.
If you've been in second grade, you know who's the giant here.
Second. Population?
As of recently, the total Vietnamese population is 95 million.
China? Largest in the world with a whopping 1.38 Billion.
We're talking about differences with two unit spaces here.
Third. Economy?
GDP of Vietnam: 202.6 Billion USD.
GDP of China: 11.2 trillion USD.
Both in 2016. Again, 2 unit spaces of difference.
Ok, you might say “well, China has a greater population, so obviously they're going to have a GDP greater than Vietnam.”
Vietnam’s GDP per capita was roughly 2000 USD. That's equivalent to China's GDPPC in 2006. With such a huge population, China has still managed to be on a steady rise of GDPPC. Currently, that number is $6000 more.
Military?
China has the most active personnel in the world
China has nukes
China has aircraft carriers
China has 5th generation jet fighters
China has 3rd gen type 99 tanks
China has everything Vietnamese people are desperate for. How is China jealous of Vietnam? How is Vietnam “Giant?”
You can comment down below any one aspect of stats with proven evidence that Vietnam does better than China, and you've won.

Benson Zhang  在中国生活
我想着尽可能严肃的回答这个问题。
首先,巨人般的?指的是土地吗?
越南总的土地面积为32.9万平方公里。
中国总的土地面积为960万平方公里+47万平方公里的海域面积,使得中国这个国家的领土达到了1000万平方公里。
如果你已经位居二线了,你自然知道谁才是这里的巨人。

第二。巨人般的,是指的人口吗?
最近不久,越南的总人口数是9500万人口。
中国?世界上人口最庞大,13.8亿人口。
我们谈论的这两个国家根本不在一个层次。
第三,指的是经济吗?
越南国内生产总值为:2026亿美元
中国国内生产总值为:11.2万亿美元

都是2016年的数据。再说一遍,2个不在一个层次。
如果你说:“这没什么,中国人口更多,所以很明显相比越南他们自然会有更庞大的经济。”
越南人均国内生产总值大概是2000美元。这大致跟中国2006年的人均总值相当。基于中国有如此庞大的人口,中国依旧在设法保持人均GDP的稳步增长。当前,人均GDP在6000多美元。
第四,指的是军队吗?

中国拥有世界上最活跃的一群人。
中国有核弹
中国有航空母舰
中国有第五代喷气式战斗机
中国有第三代99式坦克
中国拥有越南嫉妒渴望的一切东西。中国如何会嫉妒越南呢?越南又能有多“巨大”呢?
你可以在我的评论下通过提供证据的方式来证明越南要比中国更好。

Keith Ng
Aug 3, 2017 · 40 upvotes
I hate troll questions like these too… just looking around the comments here first before downvoting the question afterwards
p/s: i admire your patience in replying objectively enough, with facts and figures

我也讨厌这类问题,只需要看一看这些评论就知道了。
PS:我欣赏你能如此有耐心的回答这个问题。

Steven Yan
Dec 30 · 1 upvote
We helped them at Vietnam war and they won.
Then they declared the war at the frontier.
We helped them build their country such as dam and so on, those important basic constructions
They are trying to take ours islands and reefs.
China do welcome to be others friend.
But we do chose friends. Not everyone.

我们在越南战争中帮助了他们,他们也赢了。
之后却公然在边境发动战争。

我们帮助他们建设他们的国家例如水坝等等,这些重要的基础建设。
他们却试图拿走我们的岛礁。
中国身体力行欢迎其他朋友。但我们也身体力行的选择朋友。不是所有人都能做中国的朋友。

Duy Nhi?m Nguy?n
Jan 9 · 2 upvotes
Look at the rediculous 9 dashed-line in the East Sea - the so-called South China Sea and tell who has taken islands from whom? What China wanted from their help were Vietnam’s islands. Chinese governement has misled its people for decades and made them have a bad image of Vietnam, not fair…

瞧瞧东海(南中国海)那荒谬的九段线,到底是谁拿走了谁的岛屿?中国帮助越南,目的就是为了拿走这些岛屿。中国zf误导自己人民数十年,并让他们对越南建立了糟糕印象,这不公平。。。

Eri Lols
Feb 1
China claims the 9 dashed-line because that territory belonged to China since long time ago in the history and that’s legal. I’m sorry for that but every country should fight for their own best and you cannot blame them for that. I know Vietnamese have right to do that also, so I wouldn’t blame you for doing the same. But no war please we can negotiate that on the table.

中国声索九段线,因为这片领土自古以来就似属于中国,这是合法的。我很抱歉提到这些但每个国家都应该为他们自己的最好的东西而战斗,你们不能因这点指责他们。我知道越南也有权利这样做,所以我不会因为你们做了同样的事情而指责你们。但请不要有战争,我们能在谈判坐上进行谈判。

Duy Nhi?m Nguy?nFeb 1
Your comparson does not sound appropriate because it makes me relate to benefit of thief and victim. The thief claims to have right to steal and say if his/her victim wants to steal other’s stuff, it is totally victim’s right!

你做的比较听起来并不恰当,因为这让我把窃贼的利益和受害者的利益联系了起来。窃贼声称无论那些受害者是否想要去偷窃别人的东西,他们都有权偷东西。这本就是受害者的东西!

Eri LolsFeb 1
Victims of what? Victims of American Agent Orange ? Or victims of famine caused by the Japanese invaders? Vietnamese always think China is their only enemy by forgetting the truth that South Korea, Japanese and Americans had slaughtered many of their people when China was supporting their back, providing supplies, weapons and even our own people to fight for the war for the Vietnamese independence and Vietnam war against the US. You just consider yourself as the victim and are never aware of how much you owed Chinese people because your textbook told you only part of the truth.
Let me tell you something, my answer above is just trying to be polite. The 9 dashed-line was a legal legacy from the government of Republic of China. Besides that 9 dashed-line was not 9 dashed-line, it was 11 dashed-line and in the 1950s China and Vietnam were in brotherly relationship then China gave up on 2 dashed lines of sovereignty. Besides that, the nansha and hsisha islands are belonged to China since long before and were acknowledged by the North Vietnamese government. Please tell me for what reason Chinese government should give up on the rights on those islands?

受害者?哪方面的?美国橙剂的受害者?还是由于日本入侵导致的饥荒?越南总是遗忘韩国、日本和美国的真相,并认为中国是他们唯一的敌人,这些国家屠杀了越南大量的人,此时是中国站在越南背后,提供补给、武器甚至派出自己的人为这场为争取越南独立的、越南对抗美国的战争而战。你只把你自己看成是受害者,压根没意识到你们欠了中国人民多少的债,因为你们的书上只告诉你们部分真相而已。
我来告诉你一些事情,我以上答复也都一直试图保持礼貌。

九段线是中国民国zf的合法遗产。此外九段线过去不是九段线,20世纪50年代是11段线,当时中越是兄弟关系,所以中国放弃了其中的2段线的主权。
此外,南沙和西沙群岛自古以来就是中国的,这点北约zf也是承认过的。
请告诉我,中国zf能有什么理由应该放弃上述岛屿的权力?

Nguyen Vo, studies at Generic High School (2020)
Giant Vietnam, depicted in dark blue, is obviously overshadowing China in every aspect.……Huh?
How giant can Vietnam be when it’s around 1/30th the size of the PRC…
Oh, I’m sorry, did you say China? The Republic of China?
Then of course it has every reason to be jealous of giant Vietnam. Maybe.

Nguyen Vo  在读高中(2020)
巨人越南,毫无疑问在各个层面跟中国相比都黯然失色。
。。。。。
哈?一个只有中华人民共和国三十分之一的国家,如何个巨大法呢?
噢,我懂了,你说的中国是中华民国?
那么当然了,它当然有理由嫉妒巨人般的越南了。也许吧。

Luc Vu Nang, Just know about computer, IT, investments
Answered Sep 18
I am going to add 1 more view point from Vietnam. As you might read from Benson’s answer, China and Vietnam have very big gap in many criteria like lands, population, economy, army size…So China has nothing to jealous to Vietnam.
Conflict on the sea and ownership of island:
Vietnam and China now having conflict on the sea on many islands (include Spratly Islands, Paracel Islands). On these islands Vietnam having full historical and legal evidences to prove that past Vietnamese states have claimed sovereignty over Hoang Sa (Paracel) and Truong Sa (Spratly). I wish Vietnam would raise louder voice on this (like Philipines did) so we settle the issue with China in a fair and peaceful way.
You can look at historic data and support us on the conflict keep peace. You just need to raise your voice …

这里我想从越南的视角再补充几句。正如你可能阅读了Beson的回复一样,中国和越南在很多标准上都差距巨大,如:土地、人口、经济和部队规模……所以中国没什么需要嫉妒越南的。
海上岛屿的归属权冲突:

越南和中国就海洋上众多岛屿问题正在发生冲突(包括南沙群岛、西沙群岛)。越南有充分的历史依据和法律依据证明,过去的越南就已经声索了这些群岛的主权了。我希望越南在这事儿上的声音能更嘹亮一些(就像菲律宾之前的那样),也就是说我们越南要跟中国公正和平的解决这个问题。
你能查看历史数据,这些数据都在这场冲突中支持我们。我们只需更加理直气壮点……

Anonymous
Answered Aug 16, 2017
I am suspecting that however made this question simply wants to bring hate on Vietnam. You probably already know that China is bigger in most aspects. Please don't write these questions again, they mate bad for Vietnam. And if you are Vietnamese, then know that all this question brought was people calling Vietnam a tiny dwarf compared to china, if you really want to make Vietnam better, write real questions.

无论如何,我都怀疑这个问题只是单纯想要让越南人吸引仇恨。我可能已经知道中国在绝大多数层面都要比越南更庞大。所以请不要再写这样的问题,这对越南不利。
如果你是越南人,那么只需要知道这个问题,只会让人们称呼越南在中国面前就是侏儒矮子,就够了。如果你真的希望让越南变得更好,写一些实际的问题吧。

Seisgrados Bing
Updated Aug 16, 2017
Because Vietnam has the most beautiful girls in Asia; China on the other hand, has a shortage of girls due to the ill conceived “one child” family planning policy.
Wouldn’t you be jealous too if your neighbor is a giant with gigantic six pack abs like Vietnam is and hordes all the beautiful women in the neighborhood?

为何中国嫉妒巨人越南?因为越南拥有亚洲最漂亮的女孩子;另一方面,中国因为病态的“一孩政策”导致女孩的不足。
就是当你的邻居是拥有六块腹肌的巨人就如越南那样,然后一群女人成群结队的跟着他的时候,你难道不会嫉妒吗?

Thanh Kim Anh, studied at Western Sydney University
Answered Aug 25, 2017
Hi Chinese friend.
We are Vietnamese and We are living in Viet Nam. Ha Noi is our capital, we don’t care anything about China or the rest of this world. We, Vietnamese love peace, we don’t want to war or get invaded. One thing I don’t understand is with that huge of land and people, what does Chinese Gov need more from the word. Look what Chinese Gov is doing for India, Lao, Cambodia, Myanmar or even Japan it’s true clearly to understand.
I know Chinese Gov has money, has popupation which are enough to wipe Vietnam in 1 second but I just let you know we are from different countries or perhaps same culture because of thousand years of history. Yes, we don’t want Chinese Gov does something harm for our country.
Lastly, I am trying to figuring out how can you build for country to one of top 10 country but everything you bring to my country are such mess, poison and sickness

嗨,中国的朋友。
我们是越南人,我们也生活在越南。河内是我们的首都,我们不关心任何中国的或其他世界的事情。我们,越南人热爱和平,我们不想发生战争或遭到入侵。有件事我不理解,都有如此庞大的土地和人口了,为何中国zf依旧想要从世界索取更多。看看中国zf在对印度、老挝、柬埔寨、马来、甚至日本做了什么,这是再明白不过的事情了。

我懂,中国zf有钱、有人口,足够在1秒钟就抹掉越南。但我得让你知道,即便因为数千年的历史而文化可能相同,但我们依旧来自不同的国家。
是的,我们不想中国zf伤害我们的国家。
最后,我正试图找出那些中国帮助过我们国家的10件事情之一,但你们给我们带来的所有东西都是那么的糟糕、有毒、和疾病。

Alex Lee, PM at HiChina Travel
Answered Aug 1, 2017
you mean Vietnam’s seeking for conquering Cambodia, Laos in 1979?
it’s true that a unified Indo-cina Penisula will be a giant.
but Chinese are focusing on freedom and libration of people under opression of Vietnam military, that is not jealous at all.
That is how Chinese love freedom

你指的是1979年时正寻求征服柬埔寨的越南吗?
一个统一的中南半岛确实会是一个巨人。
但中国人那时正集中精力于,把那些遭受越南军队压迫的人民解放出来,这跟嫉妒没半点关系。
只是因为中国人热爱自由而已。
祝你愉快。

Gabriel Chan, Overseas Chinese(华侨)
Answered Aug 17, 2017
Vietnam’s giant yellow star is more epic than China’s 5 tiny stars.

Gabriel Chan 海外华人

越南有一颗巨大的黄色行星,这比中国5个小星星大多了。

Thuong Tran
Aug 17, 2017 · 5 upvotes
Yeah, China is very jealous of us for having one giant star. They won't admit t though.

啊没错,中国非常嫉妒我们拥有一个巨大的星星,尽管他们不会承认。

Fermi Zhang, works at Hebei Hongri Natural Pigment Co., Ltd.
Answered Sep 15
Giant no.
Jealous yes.
Vietnamese female to male ratio is larger than 1. Of course we would be jealous. It's very hard for a single, less wealthy man to find a spouse in China nowadays, especially (those who are from) rural towns in the Northwest.

巨人?不。
嫉妒?是的。
越南女人比男人多。所以当然我们会嫉妒。今天的单身、少钱的男人要找到配偶很难,尤其是在西北的农村。

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