中国和日本，在与外部世界的交往中，哪个国家更封闭？ [美国媒体]

Which country is more isolated from the outside world, China or Japan?

中国和日本，在与外部世界的交往中，哪个国家更封闭？




David W. Rudlin, Novelist, corporate poo bah, foodaholic, political junkie.
Answered Aug 18, 2017
A few years ago I was running both the Japan and China markets for a major multinational.
We had a major new product launch, and scheduled meetings with the fashion press in both countries.
In China the first question the editors asked was “Are we going to do this in English, French or Mandarin?”
In Japan all the meetings were in Japanese.
The Chinese editors talked about their recent trips to Paris, a party held by one of the major luxury brands on the Great Wall, which US colleges their kids had gained admission to.
In Japan they talked about the stagnant local market.
I left thinking that China had lapped Japan in worldliness.
However, we’re talking about a small group of people in the big cities. People in rural China know nothing about the outside world, and very little about Beijing. There is a gap in Japan as well, but since it’s much smaller geographically — and educational standards are the same nationwide — it’s a much narrower gap than in China.
That said, the average Japanese knows a LOT more about America than the average American knows about Japan. Take away the coasts and America wins Miss Isolation with ease.

就在几年前，我在一家大型跨国公司工作，同时负责日本市场和中国市场。（注：经查水表，公司为世界最大的钻石公司德比尔斯，它的一句广告词大家应该都耳熟能详：钻石恒久远，一颗永流传。）

当时，我们有重要的新品要发布，于是在中日两国，分别约了两国的时尚媒体来参加相关会议。
在中国，中国编辑们首先问我们：“召开的会议，我们是用英语、法语还是普通话呢？”
在日本，所有会议用的都是日语。

中国的编辑们，他们谈论的都是：最近去巴黎旅游啦，一个奢侈品大咖公司在长城上举办宴会啦，他们的孩子又被哪个美国大学录取啦……
而日本的编辑们，他们谈论的都是：日本的本土市场停滞不前啦……
我认为，中国的世俗化程度，是超过日本的。

不过，前面提到的人，他们只是大城市的一小撮人。而中国农村的人们，对外界还是一无所知的，甚至他们对北京也是知之甚少。在日本，人们的认知，当然也是有差距的。但是由于日本国土比较小，全国的教育水平都差不多，所以与中国相比，人们之间的认知差距要小得多。
也就是说，普通日本人对美国的了解程度，要远高于普通美国人对日本的了解程度。如果不算美国的沿海地区，美国才是世界上最封闭的国家。

Taisho Mori (森 太翔)
Answered Aug 19, 2017
Politically and economically speaking, neither is isolated. China is the biggest trading nation, Japan is in the top 5. Culturally speaking, definitely Japan. Japanese people have the island mentality. They are extremely self-centered and have little understanding and interest of the outside world. The number of Chinese students studying abroad in multiple foreign countries is several times higher than that of their Japanese counterparts. Chinese culture in general is more open and inclusive, while the Japanese is more closed and exclusive. While Japan is technically a Democracy and foreign media and companies are allowed to operate within Japan, it’s virtually impossible to find a foreign car on the streets in Japan, and virtually nobody watches foreign press, they limit themselves to Japan-made stuff only. Same cannot be said about China.

从政治和经济层面来讲，两个国家都不算封闭。中国是世界上最大的贸易国，日本也在前五名之内。
文化层面来讲，毫无疑问是日本更封闭。
日本人有一种岛国情结，以自我为中心，对外面的世界缺乏理解和兴趣。
而中国在海外的留学生人数，是日本的数倍之多。

一般来讲，中国文化更加的开放和包容，而日本文化则更加的封闭和排他。
在日本，外国媒体和外国企业的经营都是被允许的，法律层面上，日本是个民主国家。
但实际上呢，在日本街道上，你很难发现外国品牌的汽车，你也很难发现外国媒体的报道，日本人只对日本制造的东西感兴趣。
但在中国，可能又是另一番景象了。

Ray Comeau, A decade in China, interest in geopolitics
Answered Aug 15, 2017
A2A
What does isolated mean?
Neither is really isolated from the outside world.
Both have numbers of citizens who travel all over the world.
They may think and behave differently then the West.
Both prefer their culture to western culture.
Both prefer their native food to foreign food.
Both limit immigration.

谢邀。
不知道你问的“封闭”是指哪方面？
两个国家与外界的联系，都不算真正的与世隔绝。
两个国家都有大量的游客在国外旅游。
两个国家的想法和行为，与西方也是不一样的。
两个国家喜欢他们自己的文化，甚于西方文化。
两个国家喜欢他们本土的食物，甚于外国的食物。
两个国家都限制移民。

Michel McGill, Born, lived and worked in China.
Answered Aug 14, 2017
It is hard to tell, because Chinese tourists look the same as Japanese tourists. But one thing is for sure. Both of these two countries are not isolated from outside world. Their people travel all over the world.

这个很难讲啦，因为中国游客和日本游客，看起来都一样的啦！
但有一件事情是可以确认的：
两个国家与外面的世界肯定不是隔绝的。两国人民都有在世界各地旅游啊！

Wumso Dang
Answered Aug 22, 2017
economically speaking both countries not no isolated at all.
politically, china is not even a democracy.
culture, 99% of “western film, shows anime, mangas ,- books, game are censored and banned in china. you cant get these movies legitimately,
on the other hand, censorship of any kind is unconstitutional in japan.

经济上来说，两国国家都不封闭。

政治上来说，中国连民主国家都不算。

文化上来说，在中国，99%的西方电影、动漫、书籍和游戏都会被审查和禁止，你不能合法地获得这些影片；在日本，恰恰相反，任何形式的审查都是违反宪法的。

C R
Answered Aug 22, 2017
I would say this is a loaded question. The question assumes “the outside world” is a homogeneous entity while in reality this assumption is not true. There are at least three very large and very different groups, the English speaking community, the Spanish speaking community and the Arabic community (and there are more). In the three communities I gave, I would say that Japan is more isolated from the first community, China is more isolated from the second community and both are very isolated from the third community.

这个问题问的比较含糊。
在问题中，你假设的“外部世界”是同质的，但实际上，这种假设是错的。
世界上至少存在着三大派系国家：英语系国家、西语系国家、阿拉伯语系国家，还有其他语系国家等等。

在这三大语系国家中，我可以给出如下的结论：
在跟英语系国家的交往中，日本更封闭；
在跟西语系国家的交往中，中国更封闭；
在跟阿拉伯语系国家的交往中，中日两个国家都很封闭。

WenXiang Zhang, lives in China (2017-present)
Answered Aug 14, 2017
when you ask the question,the answer is your country.

当你提出这个问题的时候，答案就很明显了：你的国家更封闭。

Lucas Martins, lives in Portugal
Answered Aug 14, 2017
Even if Japan wanted to, they couldn't be isolated. Japan only produces 85% of its needs, so they have to export lots of stuff.

即使日本想自我封闭，他们也做不到啊！日本生产的大量货物都依赖出口……