quora网友:很难确定,尽管我听说许多印度人私下承认了这一点。我个人对这些智商测试有着强烈的蔑视,尤其是在各个国家进行比较性测试(比如,为什么中国远远优于印度)。就像任何一个文明的现代人一样,我不赞成认为某个群体比其他群体更好或更糟糕的整个想法.....
Are Chinese more intelligent than Indians?
中国人比印度人聪明吗?
Rajiv Satyanarayana, Student of Indian History
It is difficult to ascertain, though I have heard many Indians admit to that effect in private. I personally have a hearty contempt for these IQ tests, especially when measured across countries (such as these Why China Is Far Superior To India) . Like any civilized modern man, I frown upon the whole idea of thinking some group inherently better or worse than some other group
Let us say the Chinese are more intelligent than Indians. So what? Being intelligent is just one component of success in the modern world. Success in life has many more angles: drive, hard work, emotional intelligence, perseverance, ability to spot opportunities, cunning, pragmatism, relationships, etc. Indians match the Chinese is these areas, if not surpass them. For example, how does one explain Indians dominating the US National Spelling Bee and (to a lesser extent) the National Geography Bee, but not the Math Bee or the Coding Bee? I don’t know!
Since I write primarily about history, let me make a point from history. How did the Chinese let the Indians influence it for over a thousand years, if indeed the Indians are less intelligent than the Chinese? I am talking of the Indian influence of China - religion + philosophy + language in the first millennium of the CE. Cultural Interchange between India and China.
To be fair, I don’t see too many conceptual thinkers amongst Indians in my profession (i .e. outside Quora) and I do see far more East Asians. But that is more a cultural thing than innate intelligence.
Here in the USA, where I live, most of the gymnasts, swim teams, and sports teams have plenty of Chinese and almost no Indians. As far as athletic abilities are concerned, I can readily grant that Chinese of 2017 seem far superior. But as far as concerns intelligence, I don’t know!
I was in Paris last year. In all its museums - Louvre, Musée d'Orsay, Musée d'Art Moderne, and even the minor ones, you will find the Chinese by the bus loads. But not more than handful of Indians will be spotted in such places. Of course, you will find Indians atop the Eiffel tower, towards which all the Patel tourist buses head! And similar observations can be made across many cities of Europe and US. What do we infer from this? I have a theory: the PRC is encouraging its citizens to learn European civilization at its root by visiting all these museums. Why? Without a doubt, the PRC harbors the ambition of unseating the “decadent” West and one of the ways it hopes to do that is by understanding the West’s intellectual underpinning. So whether the Chinese are more intelligent or not, I do not know, but they are definitely more “intelligence respecting” and “intelligence admiring” !
These are some of my observations on this subject!
很难确定,尽管我听说许多印度人私下承认了这一点。我个人对这些智商测试有着强烈的蔑视,尤其是在各个国家进行比较性测试(比如,为什么中国远远优于印度)。就像任何一个文明的现代人一样,我不赞成认为某个群体比其他群体更好或更糟糕的整个想法。
让我们说,中国人比印度人聪明,那又怎么样?在现代世界里,聪明只是成功的组成部分之一。生活中的成功有更多的因素:动力、勤奋、情商、毅力、发现机会的能力、机巧、务实、人际关系等。印度人和中国人在这些方面是和中国人相匹敌的,就算不能超越他们的话,例如,如何解释印度人在美国拼写比赛中占据主导地位,以及(在较小程度上)国家地理比赛,而不是数学比赛或编程比赛?我不知道。
既然我主要写的是历史,让我从历史中提出一点看法。如果印度人确实不如中国人聪明,那么中国人是如何让印度人影响它一千多年的呢?我指的是印度对中国的影响——宗教+哲学+语言,中印之间的文化交流。
公平地说,在我的职业中,印度人中没有太多的概念思想家。(在Quora之外),我确实看到了更多的东亚人。但这更多的是一种文化因素,而不是天生的智慧。
在我居住的美国,大多数体操运动、游泳队和运动队都有很多中国人,几乎没有印度人。就运动能力而言,我可以轻易地承认,2017年的中国似乎远比印度优越,但就智力而言,我不知道!
我去年在巴黎。在它所有的博物馆--卢浮宫、奥赛博物馆、现代艺术博物馆,甚至小博物馆里,你都可以在公共汽车上找到中国人。但在这样的地方只会发现少数印度人。当然,你会在埃菲尔铁塔顶上看到印度人,所有的帕特尔旅游巴士都朝那里去了!欧洲和美国的许多城市也可以进行类似的观察。我们从这推断出什么呢?我有一个理论:中国通过参观所有这些博物馆来鼓励其公民从根本上学习欧洲文明。为什么? 毫无疑问,中国怀有推翻“腐朽的”西方的野心,它希望这样做的方法之一就是了解西方的知识基础。所以中国人是否更聪明,我不知道,但他们肯定更“尊重智慧”和“欣赏智慧”!
这些是我对这个问题的一些看法!
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Jason Gafar, B.A. Political Science & History, University of Toronto (2020)
That’s a very tough one. Both nations produce some very learned people. I’ve met some very educated people from India and I’ve met some very accomplished and rich people from China. Chinese are currently far more wealthy but as far as intelligent? I don’t know. As a student studying politics in university, hands down I would choose someone from India to be far more learned concerning international affairs than someone from China. China until very recently has always been very inward looking and self-reliant, which is very good in many regards but it harbours an overly nationalistic set of people. India’s borders are very open in comparison. The two countries also have very different political systems which produced two different set of mindsets. Regarding business, I’d probably go with someone from China, though again both groups are very prent in the field. It’s tough. Both cultures are extremely conservative and place tremendous value in hard work, discipline, and education. I honestly don’t know which culture values hard work more because they’re both extremely hard working peoples. Definitely a tough one. What I will say is this, collectively as a population, China definitely far surpasses India collectively. India sadly has so much poverty, as does China, but far more impoverished. Many people sadly are still illiterate. Once India crosses those hurdles which I have no doubt she will, she will be on par with her Chinese counterpart. But as far as the educated upper middle class and upper classes, again, a very tough call. Both Xi Jinping and Narendra Modi are EXTREMELY intelligent and hard working leaders of their great nations. They both came from tremendous poverty and worked their way up purely with drive and discipline. When I think of China, I think of a very, very ancient region of the world with an exceptionally rich culture. I think of warfare, revolutions, discipline, and wisdom. When I think of India, I again think too of a very ancient nation, but one more so very diverse, very religious, very steeped in spirituality, the arts, food, and culture. I could be gravely wrong, but that’s what comes to mind.
I’ll give an analogy: if you ask for a task to be done by both someone from China and India, these are the results: The Chinese person will complete the task in seven minutes and give you your results. The person from India will complete the task and give you your results in eight minutes, but will smile and may even laugh with you, and of course the INFAMOUS head shake. (hahahaha. I respect both cultures and people equally though. I love people from China and their values and I love people from India and their virtues.
To conclude, both nations produce extremely bright, driven, and overall respectable, descent people. I was born in Guyana, a very small and poor country in the Carribean, but my ancestors are from Mother India. I've always felt far more connected to India opposed to Guyana because of what India represents. I also too since a very young boy have always deeply respected people from China. I lived in a predominately Chinese area and I remember seeing Chinese elders practicing tai chi very early in the morning. I rememb them buying herbs and tea. I also remember so many of the top students at school virtually all being Chinese. Look at the greatest academic institutions in the world. They're all flooded with both people from China and India which says so much about these two great nations. The defining quality of the success of a nation is their attitude towards education and higher learning. Both Chinese and Indians are equally hungry for education which speaks so greatly about them both and which is too also the defining quality of them.If I was held at gun point and had to choose though, I think I’d go with China, after a long indecisive pause, however.
这是一个非常艰难的问题。这两个国家都培养出一些非常有学问的人。我见过一些受过良好教育的印度人,也见过来自中国的一些非常有成就和富有的人。目前, 中国人富裕得多, 但智慧程度更高? 我不知道。作为一名在大学学习政治的学生,我会选择来自印度的人来了解国际事务,而不是中国的人。直到最近,中国一直是非常内向和自力更生的,这在很多方面都很好,但它却包含着一群过于民族主义的人。相比之下,印度的边界非常开放。两国的政治制度也很不相同,产生了两种不同的心态。
关于商业,我可能会和一个来自中国的人一起去,尽管这两个群体在这个领域都很普遍,这很艰难,这两种文化都非常保守,在努力工作、纪律和教育方面具有巨大的价值。老实说,我不知道哪一种文化更看重努力工作,因为他们都是极端努力的民族,这绝对是个棘手的问题。我要说的是,作为一个整体,中国肯定会远远超过印度。不幸的是,印度和中国一样,都有如此多的贫困,但却更加贫困。不幸的是,许多人仍然是文盲。一旦印度跨过这些障碍,我相信她会的,她将与中国同行并驾齐驱。但就受过教育的中上层阶级而言,再一次,一个非常艰难的抉择。习近平和纳伦德拉·莫迪都是各自伟大国家的非常聪明和勤奋的领导人。他们都来自极度的贫困,完全靠干劲和纪律进步。当我想到中国的时候,我想到的是世界上一个非常非常古老的地区,那里有着极其丰富的文化。我想到战争、革命、纪律和智慧。当我想到印度的时候,我再次想到一个非常古老的国家,但是一个更加多样化、宗教性很强、精神、艺术、食物和文化都很丰富的国家。我可能大错特错,但这就是我的想法。
我举个例子:如果你要求中国和印度的人同时完成一项任务,这就是结果:中国人将在7分钟内完成任务,并给出你的结果。来自印度的人会在八分钟内完成任务并给出你的结果,但他会微笑,甚至会和你一起笑,当然还有声名狼藉的摇头(哈哈哈)。不过,我同样尊重文化和人民。我爱中国人民和他们的价值观,我爱印度人和他们的美德。
总之,这两个国家都有非常聪明、有动力、总体上值得尊敬的人。我出生在加勒比的圭亚那,一个很小很穷的国家,但是我的祖先来自印度。因为印度所代表的东西,我一直觉得与印度的联系更加紧密。我也是一个年轻的男孩,一直以来都深深地尊重着来自中国的人们。我住在一个以中国人为主的地区,我记得很早就看到中国老人在练习太极,我记得他们买草药和茶,我还记得学校里优秀的学生几乎都是中国人。看看世界上最伟大的学术机构,他们都被来自中国和印度的人淹没了,这两个伟大的国家的人才都是如此之多。一个国家成功的决定性品质是他们对教育和高等教育的态度。中国人和印度人都同样渴望教育,因为教育对他们都有很大的帮助,这也是他们的决定性素质。不过,如果我不得不做出选择,在犹豫了很久之后,我想我会选择中国。
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Keith Salerno, works at PricewaterhouseCoopers
Overall China is more “developed” than India, whichever way you look at it. And the possible reasons are : let’s face it - Chinese are more hard working and disciplined than Indians. But also because Chinese autocratic governance have far higher enforcement abilities in their disposal.
Coming to the argument of “intelligence” : China is ethnically and culturally very homogeneous Nation. And Chinese government have created far more effective (and mandatory) school education system, which undoubtedly makes a random sample of Chinese school students better performing than Indian counterparts.
Real comparison would be comparing Indian and Chinese creme de la creme - the brain drain immigrants in “neutral” grounds like USA or UK. And there they perform equally well. However, if Corporate presence in high-skilled STEM sector is any indicator, then Indians outperform the Chinese.
Even in Chinese dominated Singapore, Indian origin school students outperform Chinese in more technically intensive A level (in spite of lagging behind both Chinese and Malays in more rote-learning dependent O-level ). Google : Indian Singaporeans (Wiki). Additionally Indians are more likely to have tertiary education than any other migrant groups.
This analysis doesn’t “prove” by any stretch that as a RACE, Indians are better than Chinese. Just like Shanghai school students’ Maths and reading comprehension scores doesn’t prove otherwise.
总的来说,无论你怎么看,中国都比印度“发达”。可能的原因是:(让我们面对现实吧)--中国人比印度人更勤奋、更自律,但也因为中国的专制统治有更高的执行力。
现在说说关于“智商”的争论:中国在民族和文化上都是非常同质的国家。中国政府已经建立了更有效的(和强制性的)学校教育体系,这无疑使随机抽样的中国学生比印度学生表现更好。
真正的比较应该是比较印度和中国的精英(译注:creme de la creme,意为精英中的精英)--美国或英国等“中立”地方的人才外流移民,在那里他们表现得同样好,然而,如果是比较高技能STEM(译注:STEM是科学(Science),技术(Technology),工程(Engineering),数学(Mathematics)四门学科英文首字母的缩写)领域,那么印度人的表现就会超过中国。
即使在以汉语为主的新加坡,印度裔学生在技术上也比中国裔学生强得多(尽管他们在死记硬背的 O-level 学习方面落后于中国人和马来人)。此外,印度人比任何其他移民群体更有可能接受高等教育。
这一分析丝毫没有“证明”作为一个种族,印度人比中国人更好。就像上海的学校学生的数学和阅读理解成绩并不能证明什么一样。
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Martin Devasia, Interested in everything!
Yes they certainly are, India currently has an average IQ of 81–85 something in the range of Arab Nations and slightly higher than African countries, as compared to China which has an average IQ of 112–115 which is much higher than India’s, this also explains why China is far ahead of India in almost every aspect, they are also more significantly harder working than Indians, though one must take into account the massive poverty and malnutrition levels of India which have a negative impact on its average IQ, maybe when India achieves a level of development similar to China’s today, then I predict the average IQ level of India to be atleast 100 or slightly more, also it depends on the region of India, Gujarati’s and South Indians certainly have higher IQ than north Indians as these regions are more developed, when South India achieves a level of development similar to China’s today, then I predict their average IQ to be 110–112. Though if it comes down to average IQ then China will always have a higher average IQ than India simply because of how diverse India is.
是的,印度目前的平均智商为81到85,大致与阿拉伯国家处于同一范围,略高于非洲国家,而中国的平均智商为112至115,远高于印度。这也解释了为什么中国在几乎所有方面都远远领先于印度,他们的工作也比印度更加努力,尽管我们必须考虑到印度的大规模贫困和营养不良水平,这对印度的平均智商产生了负面影响。也许当印度达到今天中国的发展水平时,我预测印度的平均智商水平至少是100或者略高一点,这也取决于印度的地区,古吉拉特邦和南印度人的智商当然比北印度人高,因为这些地区比较发达,当南印度达到今天中国的发展水平时,我预测他们的平均智商是110-112。不过,如果把它归结为平均智商,那么中国的平均智商将永远高于印度,这仅仅是因为印度的多样性。
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Anonymous
I will share a secret
In China the rural folks are not allowed to participate in any “international iq test” . If something of this sort is organized only tge urban , rich folks are not only allowed but pushed and prepared specifically for the supposed test. The rural folks are mostly dumb and will bring down the average iq. I don't remember taking any test though
In India urban+rural both both are considered in this sort of tests. No one is disqualified to bring up the average iq of a country
我要分享一个秘密。
在中国,农村居民不允许参加任何“国际智商测试”。如果这类东西仅仅是在城市组织起来的话,富人不仅可以参加,而且还专门为所谓的测试做好了准备。农村的人大多是愚笨的,会降低他们的平均智商,我不记得做过任何这类测试。
在印度,城市+农村都进行了这种测试,没有人被取消资格来提高一个国家的平均智商。
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Sam Arora, Great respect for China /Chinese, culture, peace loving, hard work/wisdom/smart
I am from Indian origin, and had have tremendous amount of interaction with Chinese, in Canada for more than 41 years,
I do not believe one is superior than the other, however both are extremely hard working, and quest for higher learning,
But the difference is knowledge of English, once that gap is closed, it will be neck to neck competition, which is more or less we are seeing in Canada.
Second generation Chinese Canadian are cut throat competitor, go and check the list of specialist in any Canadian hospital,
Saute to extremely highly disciplined Chinese Canadian community.
regards
sam
我来自印度, 与中国人有着大量的互动关系, 在加拿大已经超过41年了,我不相信一个人比另一个优越, 但是两者都是极其努力的工作, 并寻求高等教育,但是差别在于对英语的了解, 一旦这个差距消失了, 它将会是一场并驾齐驱的竞争 这或多或少是我们在加拿大看到的。去查看一下加拿大医院的专家名单,你会发现第二代加拿大华裔是一个残酷有力的竞争者,这归功于加拿大华裔社区的高度自律。
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Shifu Hongwu, Kungfu Grandmaster
The answer in brief is yes. Chinese are more intelligent than Indians. Like all North East Asian peoples are more intelligent than South Asian population groups with origin in South Asia and having not the slightest bit of foreign ancestry.
Some factual errors in ripostes by Indians have to be pointed out here.
Despite the fact that in the last 6 to 7 years, there has been a concerted effort by the Western leaning Singaporean Lee dynasty to import busloads of Indians with fraudulent certificates and qualifications from India and granting them citizenship willy-nilly to help him secure a win in a rigged election. Tons of such examples have prompted the SG government to recruit a certification verification agent in India to ferret out fraudulent applicants for Singapore citizenship and permanent residence.
We still find that the ethnic Chinese in Singapore outdo the ethnic Indians in almost any internationally recognized and unbiased test of intellectual rigour. Be it PISA, TIMSS, GCE Ordinary Levels, International Baccalaureate, GCE Advanced Levels, or highly cited research publications in scientific, technological, engineering, mathematical or related disciplines.
The data on the percentage of students in Singapore, by ethnicity, who passed at least 5 Ordinary Level exams for each year starting from 1987 to 2015 are given. In each of these years, the ethnic Chinese are the highest performing ethnic group, followed by “Others” who are followed by Indians.
The percentage of ethnic Chinese who passed the Mathematics exam at the Ordinary Level is also consistently higher, by 14–22 percentage points for the years from 1987 to 2015.
In summary, there is no factual basis to the loose talk that ethnic Indians outperform ethnic Chinese in any way in any intellectual test or intelligence test in Singapore, or for that matter, in neighbouring Malaysia where the Chinese are disadvantaged and at the receiving end of majority ethnic Malay discrimination, much like the ethnic Malays are at the receiving end of majority ethnic Chinese discrimination in Singapore.
For Malaysia, you can search for the names of top scoring students in SPM (equivalent or comparable to Ordinary Levels) or STPM (equivalent or comparable to Advanced Levels) for any of the past years. The ethnic Chinese usually dominate (i.e. populate around half or more of the top scoring student body) or come close to dominating, whereas the ethnic Indians who make up 7 % of the population are nowhere in sight. The ethnic Chinese consist of around 25% of Malaysia’s population.
We can also see that none of the ethnic Indian majority states or countries in the world run and managed by Indians, starting from India to Mauritius to other places with significant Indian presence like Trinidad and Tobago, Guyana, Suriname, Fiji or any other such place is a developed country with high income, education, low crime, clean, orderly, neat, least or minimally corrupt, technologically advanced, scientifically high achieving society.
Compare this with the achievements of Chinese majority Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan or Macau, or Chinese-affiliated Japan and Korea (which are both Confucian countries).
简单来说,答案是肯定的。中国人比印度人聪明。就像所有的东北亚人都比南亚的人口(起源于南亚,并没有丝毫的外国血统)更聪明。
这里必须指出印度人在反驳中的一些事实错误。
尽管在过去的6到7年里,在西方倾向的新加坡李家王朝的努力下,从印度引入了大量带有伪造证书和资格证书的印度人,给予他们公民身份, 以帮助他在一场被操纵的选举中取得胜利。 以至于太多这样的例子促使新加坡政府在印度招聘了一名认证核查代理,以筛选出欺诈性的新加坡公民身份和永久居留权申请人。
【链接:IDA defends hiring of employee accused of possessing fake MBA】
但我们仍然可以发现,在几乎所有国际公认和公正的严谨性智力测试中,新加坡的华人超过了印度人。无论是PISA,TIMSS,GCE,国际学士学位,GCE高级,或在科学,技术,工程,数学或相关学科的高度被引用的研究出版物。
【链接:Percentage of Students With at Least 5 O-Level Passes-Data.gov.sg】
这份数据提供了按种族分布的从1987年至2015年每年至少通过5次普通水平考试的新加坡学生的百分比数据。在这几年中,华人是表现最好的族群,其次是“其他人”,其次是印度人。
在普通水平通过数学考试的华裔学生的比例也在不断提高,1987至2015年期间,这一比例达到了14-22个百分点。
总之,没有任何事实根据可以证明印度人在新加坡智力测验方面在任何方面都优于华人。在邻近的马来西亚,华人处于弱势地位,在马来人占多数的歧视中,华人受到歧视,就像马来人在新加坡受到多数华人歧视一样。
对于马来西亚,你可以在过去的任何几年里,在SPM(相当于或可比于普通水平)或STPM(相当于或可比高级水平)中搜索得分最高的学生的名字。华人通常占主导地位(即在得分最高的学生群体中占一半或更多),或者接近统治地位,而占总人口7%的印度人却无处可寻,华人约占马来西亚人口的25%。
我们还可以看到,没有一个印度族裔的大多数国家,从印度到毛里求斯, 到特立尼达拉及托巴哥、圭亚那、苏里南、斐济或任何拥有高收入、高教育、低犯罪率、廉洁、有序、整洁、最少或最低腐败、技术先进、科学成就高的社会,是由印度人经营和管理的。
相比之下,中国裔占多数的国家和地区新加坡、香港、台湾或澳门,或受中国影响的日本和韩国(都是儒教国家)的成就高的多。
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Naresh Yadav
Having worked with the the Chinese, the Koreans and Japanese, I have a hunch that their visio spatial skills are of higher order than Indians.This become apparent when you consider their lead in consumer goods like phones, Television etc.
I cannot comment on the verbal and analytical skills as most them don't study with English as their primary language and therefore may not be able to express themselves well.Even on this subject people of chinese Ethnicity in Malaysia and Singapore, who do have English as their primary language,do almost as well as Indians.
在与中国人、韩国人和日本人共事之后,我有一种预感,他们的视觉空间技能比印度人高。当你考虑到他们在手机、电视等消费品中的领先地位时,你就会发现这一点。
我不能评论他们的口头和分析能力,因为大多数人都不以英语作为他们的主要语言,因此他们可能无法很好地表达自己。即使是在这个问题上,马来西亚和新加坡的华人(他们把英语作为他们的主要语言)的表现也几乎和印度人一样好。
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Sayan Chaudhuri, B.E. Electronics and Telecommunication Engineering, Indian Institute of Engineering Science and Technology,...
They aren't, it seems to be !
If all indians are given same tutorial they would be more intelligent than chinese - the intelligence is not something you are born with, you have to nourish it !
他们不比印度人聪明,只是看起来比印度人聪明!
如果所有的印度人都得到相同的教育,他们会比中国人更聪明——智力不是你与生俱来的,你必须滋养它!
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Anna Young 安娜 · 杨
Definitely Indian are more intelligent. Indian have better social skills and better English than Chinese. I guess because of that there are many many phone scams happened in North America originated from India. There are many dishonest businesses run by Indian in US and Canada. That is very sad.
当然是印度人更聪明。印度人的社交技能和英语水平都比中国人强。我猜正是因为这个原因,北美有很多电话诈骗都源自于印度,在美国和加拿大,印度人经营着有许多不诚实的企业,真是悲哀。
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Anonymous
Don't think so. The cultures differ widely and the way to approach these so called 'standardized' tests and hence the results as quoted in many studies.
If Chinese were more intelligent, do we see that in day-to-day life (more Chinese origin professors in top universities/top executives in fortune 500 and such). I think I would say the corollary was true.
I don't even want to mention the recent "Baidu" cheating scandal in the image-net competition, and one reason could be that their culture might push them to succeed at any cost, irrespective of IQ or other natural talents.
I have worked with Chinese guys who graduated from UC-Berkeley with a CS degree, but were as smart as a peanut. So the culture to 'succeed at any cost' is more prent with Chinese when compared to Indians.
别这么想。文化差异很大,采用“标准化”测试的方法也很普遍,因此许多研究都引用了这一结果。
如果中国人更聪明,我们会在日常生活中看到这一点吗(更多的中国裔大学教授/财富500强的高管等等)。我想我要说的是,这个推论是正确的。
我甚至不想提到最近的“百度”在 image-net上的作弊丑闻,其中一个原因可能是,他们的文化可能会推动他们不惜任何代价获取成功,不考虑他们的智商或其他天赋。
我曾与那些毕业于加州大学伯克利分校,并获得CS学位的中国学生合作过,他们没聪明到哪去,与印度人相比,“不惜一切代价取得成功”的文化在中国人中更为盛行。
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Pruthviraj Gaikwad, lives in India (1999-present)
Well, Chinese are intelligent than Indians, but we can't call repeating something that already has been done intelligence, it's called copying. They are good copy cats. Since Indians innovate, research is where Indians have been beating all other countries including China. But is there any IQ test that can accurately measure the innovation capacity of an individual? No, you can't measure the innovation capacity by some crappy IQ test. Also the reason why Indians are good at innovating goes back to our ancestors who meditated for several years thereby making our brains innovative through evolution. So I say Indians are more intelligent than Chinese or Nationals from any other country
好吧,中国人比印度人聪明,但是我们不能再重复那些已经被智慧化的东西, 这就是所谓的抄袭,它们是很好的模仿猫。自从印度人创新以来,印度的研究就一直在击败包括中国在内的所有其他国家。但是,是否有任何智商测试可以准确地衡量一个人的创新能力呢?不,你不能用糟糕的智商测试来衡量创新能力。此外,印度人善于创新的原因可以追溯到我们的祖先们,他们冥想了多年,从而使我们的大脑通过进化进行创新。所以我说印度人比中国人或其他任何国家的人都更聪明。
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Alicia
Chineses are smarter than Indians for sure. Especially, chineses always want to learn new things. While Indians have a better social skills and their language is closer to indo-European language background so that Indians have more benefits to learn English. It's true. So, Chineses and Indians are different. Your question is actually confusing. Are you asking about learning English ability or learning deep knowledge? Or good business skills? Etc…
中国人肯定比印度人聪明。 特别是, 中国人总是想学新东西。 虽然印度人有更好的社交技能, 他们的语言更接近印欧语言背景, 这样印度人学习英语的好处就更多了。 这是真的。 因此, 中国人和印度人是不同的,你的问题实际上让人困惑,你是在问学习英语能力还是学习渊博知识的能力? 还是良好的商业技能? 等等。。。
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Anonymous
No .Indians have ethical values,which makes them dedicated,well educated.But nowadays indians are looking for only money and comfort zone. Back then indians were really passionate. We Indians are more intelligent.
不。印度人有道德价值,这使他们有奉献精神,受过良好教育。但如今,印度人在寻找的只是金钱和舒适,那时的印度人真的很有激情。我们印度人更聪明。
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Quora User, A silent passenger, a watchful learner, a cynical critic
Wow! people have gone to some extent to substantiate their claims. Anyway, I would like to share my two cents from my experience of over 2 years of studying with Chinese students and being surrounded by them.
I think that both Indians and Chinese have certain abilities that are not so commonly found in the other race. For example, Indians can NEVER be as gritty as the chinese (again, before you pull out your gun to shoot me, this is just my assessment. I can be wrong). Chinese have supernatural level of commitment when it comes to studying and being diligent.
That said, I TRULY believe that Indians are skilled at “smart-work” whereas chinese are okay with doing “donkey-work”. Indians are walking cost-benefit analysts. If the (expected) rewards don’t justify the effort, its a no-deal for them. Chinese I have noticed will just do something because well, it has to be done! They don’t question as much as the Indians do. They don’t try to find out the rationale behind certain things, and would blindly do somethings (again, my observations please). I distinctly remember certain instances when I would go to some smart chinese guy from my class with a question and…. he could have been class topper but more often than not, he would just try to recall from memory if something of that sort was taught by the professor or not. I would end up with a response like “this was not taught” or “it is not to be studied”. Indians on the other hand try to think hard about the problem statement and of an explanation regardless of the prof. did. This is one thing I really like about Indians - they are self-starters, they are problem-solvers. (This phenomenon probably is also reflected in the two countries rankings as “startup-nations”)
Its really difficult to rank them because I have seen perverse as well as brilliant outliers from both the countries.
哇! 大家已经在某种程度上证实了自己的观点。 无论如何, 我想分享我和中国学生中一起学习了两年,被他们包围的经历。
我认为印度人和中国人都有一些在其他种族中不常见的能力。例如,印度人永远不会像中国人那样坚韧(同样,在你反对我之前,我先申明这只是我的个人意见,我可能错了)。中国人在学习和勤奋方面都有超自然的承诺。
尽管如此,我真的相信印度人擅长“聪明工作”,而中国人则可以做“驴子工作”。印度人是成本效益分析师,如果(预期的)奖励不能证明他们的努力是合理的,那么对他们来说这事不值得做,我注意到中国人会做一些事情,因为它必须要做!他们不像印度人那样质疑,他们不会试图找出某些事情背后的理由,而会盲目地做一些事情(同样,请允许说明一下,这是我的观察)。我很清楚地记得,在某些情况下,我会带着一个问题去找班上的一个聪明的中国男生……。他本可以是一流的,但更多的时候,他只会尝试回忆,如果这类东西有没有被教授或不教授。最后,我会得到这样的回答:“没教过”或“它是不值得研究的”。另一方面,印度人试图认真考虑问题陈述和解释,而不管是不是教过,这是我真正喜欢的印度人的一件事——他们是自发的, 他们是解决问题的人。 (这种现象可能也反映在两个国家的"创业国家"排名中)
很难对他们进行排名, 因为来自两个国家的反常和聪明的异类我都见过。
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Deoram Joseph Umraow
YES!
Chinese are more intelligent than indians the reason being is Religion, Diet and Governace, “Religion” Chinese are atheists so they don’t believe in crazy superstitions which makes them become more down to earth and makes them work harder to achieve their goals because unlike religious people they have no one to help them so they have to achieve in order to survive,“Diet” Chinese eat more meat which gives them protein and protein develops the brain making them smarter which as Indians have a more vegan diet due to religious reasons, “Governance” Chinese have a more brotherly relationship with each other which means they take care of each other just look how much money China spends on its citizens just to maintain harmony which as the Indian government doesn’t thats why India has the highest poverty rate in the world and another reason is because of the Hindu Caste System just google it and you’ll see another example are some Muslim countries in the Middle East due to Religion they’re left behind Economical, Scientific and Technological development so the key reason here is mainly Religion because if you do check countries that are least religious are more developed than religious ones.
是!
中国人比印度人聪明,原因是宗教、饮食和治理,
“宗教”中国人是无神论者,所以他们不相信疯狂的迷信,这使他们变得更加脚踏实地,让他们更加努力地工作以实现自己的目标,因为他们与宗教人士不同,没有人帮助他们,因此他们必须自己努力才能生存。
“饮食”中国人吃更多的肉,这会给他们提供蛋白质,蛋白质使他们的大脑变得更聪明,而印度人由于宗教原因而有更多的纯素饮食。
“治理” 中国人之间的兄弟般的关系更紧密,这意味着他们互相照顾,看看中国在公民身上花了多少钱来维持和谐,而印度政府并不是这样,这就是为什么印度拥有世界上最高的贫困率。
另一个原因是,由于印度种姓制度,你可以看到另一个例子,就是中东的一些穆斯林国家,因为宗教,他们落后于经济,科学和技术的发展,所以这里的主要原因是宗教,因为如果你检验一下,会发现往往最不宗教的国家比宗教的国家更发达。
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Akm Khalek, Scored well above 180 in ***** ********* ****** test (don't want to reveal more)
Yes.
Statistically, the Chinese score higher than the Hindus in IQ (Intelligence Quotient) tests, on average, and the gap is fairly large.
Hindus score around 78-81, about the same as Saudi Arabia or some other Bedouin country, and a little higher than many African countries.
Chinese from the Mainland or PRC score around 105 nowadays due to a whole slew of factors like lack of sufficient iodized salt intake, malnutrition, tiger penis eating (yes, this is a real Chinese custom) and such. Interesting results emerge for historically intellectual provinces like Zhejiang Province - that scored something like 115 in 2005. Scores from other neighbouring provinces and cities like Shanghai also hovered around the same mark.
There may be reasons to believe that the average Chinese IQ in the mainland can reach the levels of Zhejiang province. Some studies have noted that in 1976, the Chinese in Singapore scored an average of 110 (corresponding to figures of 118 today, after adjusting by +2 points for each subsequent decade), while children in Hong Kong were measured to have scored around 116 around 2 decades ago (amounting to about IQ of 120 nowadays in 2015 about 2 decades later, after adjusting the IQ score by +2 per decade - a common practice in academia).
In short, there is ample reason to believe that the Chinese like all other North East Asian origin peoples can score about one full standard deviation higher than the Northern European peoples in Intelligence Quotient tests, on average. This has implications too. Their slightly larger brain sizes, and even larger brain-to-torso-ratio (is that the right measure? Given that the North East Asians are generally of a smaller size than Europeans, maybe that is a valid measure?) than Europeans might contribute to a considerably higher average cranial capacity for visuo-spatial, arithmetic/numerical and logical calculations.
That may indicate why the East Asians (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Taiwanese ) lead the charts in TIMSS, PISA, International Olympiads in Informatics, Mathematics, etc, and are at the forefront of civilian consumer electronics, computing hardware and related technologies.
是。
据统计,中国人在智商(IQ)测试上的得分平均高于印度人,而且差距相当大。
印度人的得分在78到81之间,与沙特阿拉伯或其他贝都因人国家大致相同,略高于许多非洲国家。
来自大陆或中国大陆的中国人现在的得分约为105分,这是由于碘盐摄入不足、营养不良、吃老虎阴茎 (是的,这是真正的中国人习俗)(译注:这里就不翻译成虎鞭了,太中国化,体现不出外国人的语境)等一系列因素造成的。有趣的结果出现在历史上多出知识分子的省份,比如浙江省--2005的得分大约为115,上海等周边省份和城市的分数也徘徊在同样的分数附近。
也许有理由相信,中国大陆的平均智商可以达到浙江省的水平。有研究指出,1976新加坡华人的平均得分为110分(相当于今天的118个数字,其后每十年调整+2分),而香港的儿童在大约20年前被测得116分左右(大约20年后的2015,智商约为120分,将智商分数调整为+2/十年,这是学术界的一种常见做法)。
简而言之,有充分的理由相信,中国人和所有其他东亚血统的人一样,平均在智力智商测试中,可以获得比北欧人高出一个完整标准差的分数。这也有暗示。他们的大脑稍大一些,大脑与躯干的比例更大(这是正确的衡量标准吗?)。考虑到东北亚人的体型通常比欧洲人小,那么这或许是一个有效的衡量标准?而欧洲人可能会因视觉空间、算术/数字和逻辑计算的平均颅骨容量带来更高的平均水平贡献。
这可能说明了为什么东亚人(中国人、日本人、韩国人、台湾人)在TIMSS、PISA、国际信息学奥林匹克运动会、数学等方面领先,在民用消费电子、计算硬件和相关技术方面处于前列。
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Suresh Kumar
Yeah,plz ask the same question to any foreigner who is not an Indian or chinese,you will know that your question itself is wrong.Indians IQ is considered to be superior to any other Asian country people .your question should be" are Chinese more intelligent than Indians? or else "Who is more intelligent ,Indians or Chinese? "
请向任何不是印度人或中国人的外国人问同样的问题, 你就会知道你的问题本身就是错误的。印度人的智商被认为比任何其他亚洲国家的人都优越。 你的问题应该是"中国人比印度人更聪明吗?“ 或者"谁更聪明, 印度人还是中国人?"
【 译注】:
这个问题的原问为:
“ Why are Chinese much more intelligent than Indians? ”
为什么中国人比印度人聪明的多?
我查看了一下编辑记录,发现后来真被一个叫Chaitanya的印度人编辑修改成了 (Question text edited by Chaitanya.):
”are Chinese more intelligent than Indians? “
中国人比印度人聪明吗?
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