滞留在东京成田机场的中国游客与日本警察发生冲突 [美国媒体]

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A group of 175 Chinese tourists were left stranded at Narita International Airport in Tokyo Japan on Jan. 24 2018.

2018年1月24日，一175人的中国旅游团被滞留在日本东京成田国际机场。

And it did not go down well.

事情的后续进展并不顺利。

24-hour delay

延时24小时

According to Haiwainet the Chinese tourists were scheduled to board a Jetstar Japan flight GK35 at 9.45pm on Wednesday night (Jan. 24).

据海外网报道，周三晚上（1月24日）9点45分,中国游客们被安排至搭乘日本捷星航空GK35航班。

But due to bad weather in Shanghai the flight was delayed for 24 hours — as the next flight to Shanghai by the budget Japanese carrier would be available a full day later.

但是由于上海的恶劣天气，航班延迟24小时——因为这家日本廉航下一班飞往上海的航班是在整整一天之后。

Clash with the Japanese police

与日本警察发生冲突

However the situation boiled over on Thursday morning Jan. 25.

然而，1月25日周四上午，事态进入白热化阶段。

This occurred after a Chinese tourist was reportedly stopped from going to a vending machine on the second floor of the departure hall.

事情据说发生在一名中国游客被阻止前往二楼候机厅的一台贩卖机之后。

An exchange of words took place between the Chinese tourists and airline staff which then escalated into a physical altercation.

中国游客们与航空公司人员发生口角，随后又升级为肢体冲突。

Local police arrived at the scene and tried to take one of the tourists away even reportedly tearing his clothes in the process.

当地警察到达现场后试图将一名游客带走，据报道在此过程中警察还扯裂了他的衣服。

Based on the video footage both the tourists and officers were seen pulling and shoving one another.

从视频中可以看到游客和警察两方在互相推搡。




In the midst of the chaos some tourists even broke out in song singing the Chinese national anthem as a show of protest.

在一片混乱中，一些游客甚至突然开始高歌中国国歌以示抗议。

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Chinese embassy forced to step in

中国大使馆被迫介入

The Chinese embassy eventually stepped in helping to make arrangements for the Chinese tourists to diffuse the situation.

中国大使馆最终介入，帮助这些中国游客做安排来化解眼前的困境。

They successfully negotiated with the airline ending with the latter agreeing totreat the stranded tourists properly pay for their meals and arrange a flight out.

最终他们与航空公司协商成功，使后者同意为这些滞留的旅客做出适当的补偿，为他们的餐饭付费并另外安排出一趟航班。

While some tourists agreed to accept the accommodations provided around 100 of them stayed behind at the gate even though the airport was scheduled to close at 11.00 pm.

虽然有部分游客同意接受提供的住宿，仍约有一百名游客留在登机口，尽管机场将在晚上11点关闭。



All of the Chinese tourists excluding the man who was detained by the police arrived at Shanghai on Friday morning.

除了那名被警察拘留的游客，其他所有的中国游客都在周五早上抵达上海。

In a statement released later by the embassy they asked the Japanese police to handle the case in a “fair and just manner” and protect the “legitimate rights and interests of all parties concerned”.

在大使馆后续发布的声明中，他们要求日本警察以“公平正义的方式”来处理这个案件并保护“所有当事人的合法权益”。

Preferential treatment from Jetstar Japan

来自日本捷星航空的优先处理

The Chinese tourists had claimed that while Jetstar Japan took care of the five Japanese tourists who were supposed to be on the same flight the non-natives were left to figure things out on their own.

这些中国游客称，日本捷星航空对五名日本游客进行了关照，而搭乘同一航班不是日本人的他们则只能自己想办法。

They said not only did the airline refuse to provide them with access to Mandarin-speaking staff they told them to collect their own baggage and settle their own accommodation issues.

他们说航空公司不仅拒绝给他们提供能说中文的工作人员，还让他们拿回行李自行解决住宿问题。

They also accused the airline’s staff of having a “very poor attitude” repeatedly telling the Chinese tourists to “get out” in English .”

游客们还控诉航空公司员工“态度差”，多次用英语让他们“出去”。

Mass disapproval from netizens

网友纷纷表示不赞同




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–]deathpov 19 指标 7小时前
Seriously what with the national anthem singing??Its have happened more then one occasion. Is the Japanese burning down their national flag or something??

讲真，这还唱起国歌来了啥情况啊？？这种事已经发生不止一次了。日本人是烧了他们的国旗还是怎么着他们了？？

[–]KoKanseiJapan 25 指标 6小时前
Nationalism / statism is a disease of the soul.

过度的民族主义或国家主义都是一种灵魂疾病。

[–]random_human_on_reddCanada 16 指标 5小时前
Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind. ~ Albert Einstein

民族主义是一种儿科病，是人类的麻疹。——阿尔伯特·爱因斯坦
（译注：爱因斯坦这么说是因为民族主义实际上是一种很幼稚，很狭隘的思想形态，并且对于思想不深刻的普通公众来说很具有煽动性和传染性。）

[–]ting_bu_dongUnited States 2 指标 1小时前
As a proud American I'm inclined to agree.

作为一个骄傲的美国人我表示赞成。

[–]xiong_babaChina 8 指标 5小时前
“The Chinese embassy eventually stepped in helping to make arrangements for the Chinese tourists to diffuse the situation.”

“中国大使馆最终介入，帮助这些中国游客做安排来化解眼前的困境。”

You know it’s a quality news report when the editor doesn’t know the difference between diffuse and defuse.

你知道这不是一篇合格的新闻报道，因为编辑不知道diffuse（扩散）和defuse（平息）二者的区别。

[–]saiyanjesus 8 指标 3小时前
Yeah I'm from Singapore and Mothership is basically a shit publication that steals news from /r/singapore wholesale

没错，我来自新加坡，慈母舰（新加坡本地时事评论网）是窃取红迪网新加坡板块新闻的垃圾出版物。

[–]americarthegreat 24 指标 9小时前
How dare the Japanese airlines not koutou to the Chinese people?

日本航班竟敢不向中国人磕头谢罪？

[–]93402European unx 45 指标 10小时前
These mainland crybabies. whenever i had my flight cancelled by a chinese airline they would not even inform what time the next flight would happen just sit and wait accommodationnada.

这些大陆爱哭鬼。每当我乘坐的航班被中国航空取消时，他们从来没有通知我们下一趟航班是什么时候，我们只能坐在那里，等待住宿安排。

Anyway did not see enough TSA style strength applied by the Japanese airport security to calm the mob down properly and smoothly they need to work on that.

不管怎么说，没看到日本机场安检人员运用TSA风格的力量来顺利平息暴乱的民众，他们在这方面需要做得更好。
（译注：TSA=Transportation Security Administration美国交通安全管理局）

[–]fungal_misdirection 2 指标 3小时前
A friend of mine missed a connection back to Australia in Chongqing because of 差不多 and was lied to and ignored for hours until he realized that he wasn't getting to Oz. Had to take a train back to Jiangsu. The Chinese family of 8 who were also meant to be on that flight didn't rise up in song when they were 没办法ed by the airline.

我的一个朋友在重庆因为差不多的情况而错过了回澳大利亚的航班，被机场人员忽悠忽略了好几个小时后才知道自己回不了澳大利亚。他不得不做火车回江苏去。一个一家8个人的家庭本也该搭乘那趟航班的，他们在机场人员告诉他们一句没办法后也没唱国歌（抗议）啊。

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[–]takeitchillish 28 指标 8小时前
And they started to sing the national anthem.... They are shaming all Chinese by doing so. What a joke.

然后他们开始唱起了国歌...他们这么做令所有中国人蒙羞。真是个笑话。

[–]Shibowen 5 指标 5小时前
Honestly cringed when I read that.

老实说，我在读这个新闻时确实感到羞愧难当。

[–]LaoSh 3 指标 4小时前
While some tourists agreed to accept the accommodations provided around 100 of them stayed behind at the gate

“虽然有部分游客同意接受提供的住宿，仍约有一百名游客留在登机口...”

As someone who has had my fair share of dicking at the hands of airlines those dumb cunts who stayed are fucking retarded. You get delayed more than 8 hours and you are entitled to room and board and round trip to the hotel. I wish all my flights got a day delay in a T1 city.

作为一个在航空公司出尔反尔时有过多次挣得公平回应补偿经验的人，我想说那些选择留在机场的人个个都是智障。如果你被延误了超过8个小时，你是有权要求航空公司提供住宿、另一趟航班和往返酒店的（交通工具）。我希望我所有的航班都能在一线城市延误一天。

[–]tosicm 11 指标 8小时前
I think Chinese people were right - want to force me to get a hotel? Then pay for it. Now how did violence escalate... that's another topic.

我认为中国人是对的——想强迫我自己找酒店？然后我还得自费。好了，（口头冲突）是如何升级成暴力的…就是另一个故事了。

[–]jostler57 8 指标 7小时前
This was a "budget" airline; the cheapest seat in the air. You get what you pay for.
The only thing forcing them to do anything was the garbage polluted weather of Shanghai.
I say fuck these nationalist assholes. They're the kind of people who tarnish China's international reputation.

这可是家廉价航班，是所有航空公司中最便宜的那种。一分钱一分货啊。迫使他们做出此事的唯一原因就是上海那被污染的垃圾天气。要我说操他妈的这些混蛋民族主义者，他们就是那类只会玷污中国国际声誉的烂人。

[–]tosicm 2 指标 7小时前
You're being needlessly aggressive. They just wanted to stay at the airport and not have to pay for hotels. What's the problem there?

你没必要这么咄咄逼人。他们想待在机场，不想另花钱住酒店，这有什么问题吗？

[–]jostler57 8 指标 6小时前
The problem is the fighting with police refusing to follow directions and expecting things that are undeserved (buying the cheapest flight expecting royal service).

问题是他们与警察打架，拒绝遵守指示和期待不应得的东西（比如买最便宜的机票却期待能享受皇家服务）。

So quite a few problems.

所以问题还不少。

And just to pile on top of that singing the national anthem? Like what's that supposed to accomplish? Some sort of country vs country division?

而堆在这些问题之上的是唱国歌那茬？就好比他们这么做是想怎样？这是什么两国之间的比赛吗？

[–]tosicm 4 指标 6小时前
People under stress do strange things. No flight - lots of problems for lots of people. The way airlines are usually handing this is inhuman I've had shit experiences myself. So 'refusing to follow directions' - maybe I'd do the same hard to tell without more details. But painting this as purely uncivilized behavior is not helping.

人们在巨大压力下是会做一些奇怪的事情。没有航班——这引起很多人的问题。航空公司处理此类事件的方式通常很不人道，我也有这类糟糕的经历。所以“拒绝遵守指示”——这种事我或许也会做，在不晓得更详尽的细节前这事很难说。但纯粹将它描绘成不文明行为没有丝毫的帮助。

[–]sobri909 6 指标 5小时前
If someone's response to minor hardship is to turn to violence then it is purely uncivilised behaviour and they deserve scorn.

如果只是面对点小困难就使用暴力解决，那这纯粹就是不文明行为，他们会受到蔑视是自作自受。

Budget airlines don't provide for these situations. That's not a secret. However travel insurance and more expensive airlines do. The onus was on the passengers to manage themselves in the situation and they ungracefully failed to do so.

廉价航空公司不提供而旅游保险和高档点的航空公司在出现这类情况时会提供这些服务的事并不是一个秘密。在这种情况下，乘客们的责任是顾好他们自己，然而他们没有做到。

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[–]tosicm 3 指标 5小时前
I agree but we don't know all circumstances that's my point here. I certainly don't endorse violence but that goes both ways if all they wanted was to sleep at the airport then I don't see what the big deal is... Of course it's a big IF but we can't know for sure.

我赞成，但正如我指出的那样我们并不了解事情的所有情况。我当然不支持使用暴力，但这对（游客和警察双方）都是如此，如果游客他们想要的不过是睡在机场，那我觉得（这要求并不过分）这事没啥大不了的…当然这只是个假设而已，但我们也没法确定不是吗。

[–]sobri909 4 指标 5小时前
“if all they wanted was to sleep at the airport then I don't see what the big deal is”

“如果游客他们想要的不过是睡在机场，那我觉得（这要求并不过分）这事没啥大不了的…”

... We're talking about Japan here. If the airport has to close at a specific time it's going to close.

.....我们在这里讨论的可是日本啊。如果机场必须在某个特定的时间点关闭，那它一定会关闭。

[–]tosicm 5 指标 5小时前
And people should go... where? It's inhuman to kick them out fuck regulations.

那人们应该去…哪里呢？将他们赶出去是不人道的，规章条例去你妹的。

[–]sobri909 4 指标 5小时前
“And people should go... where?”

“那人们应该去…哪里呢？”

They're adults not children. They failed to plan for well known potential situations. It's their responsibility to deal with that.

他们是成年人了又不是小孩子。他们自己没有计划好忽略了可能发生的意外状况。应对突发状况是他们自己该担的责任。

“fuck regulations.”

“规章条例去你妹的。”

I'm guessing you've never lived in Japan.

我猜你从没在日本生活过。

[–]jostler57 1 指标 5小时前
So you're saying this is civilized behavior?

所以你是说这是文明的行为？

If so then I don't think you understand the word "civilized."

如果你这么想的话，我觉得你不明白“文明”这个词的意义。

Their actions are the definition of uncivilized behavior.

他们的行为就是典型的不文明行为。

[–]tosicm 0 指标 4小时前
Where did I imply that? Oh look at me arguing on the internet... silly

我哪里有暗示那点了？啊，瞧瞧我，竟然跟人在网上争辩…真是傻。

[–]jostler57 1 指标 4小时前
You implied it when you said:
“painting this as purely uncivilized behavior is not helping.”

你在说“纯粹将它描绘成不文明行为没有丝毫的帮助。”的时候暗示了。

These are your words. By contrast you're saying they were acting civilly which is false; the only person painting a picture of their behavior is you by trying to spin their actions as justified and just.

这是你的原话。而且与之相比你说（机场人员）他们的行为是文明的，这是错误的。你是唯一个试图将他们的行为描述成公正合理的人。

[–]tosicm 0 指标 4小时前
Theses switch... if something is not purely uncivilized that doesn't make it civilized. There's strong resistance to consider the circumstances here and strong tendency to put entire blame on Chinese passengers. I see what's going on here... have fun.

你这推理逻辑…如果一些事物不完全是不文明的也不表示它就是完全文明的啊。人们强烈反对这种状况，并企图将这错误全部推卸给中国乘客。我知道这是怎么一回事儿了…玩得开心。

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[–]jostler57 1 指标 4小时前
And I'm saying there's zero civility in what they did.

我想说的是他们的所作所为毫无文明可言。

The blame is on the Chinese passengers for acting like they live in a zoo. The airline had zero - zero reason to give them diddly squat. The passengers signed up for the cheapest flight with the most restrictions - and that's what they got.

他们将责任归咎于中国乘客身上是因为他们那像生活在动物园里的动物一样吵闹的行为。航空公司没有任何理由要向他们屈服。乘客们买的是限制最多的最便宜的机票——而这就是他们应得的服务。

[–]notrevealingrealname 0 指标 5小时前
The problem is that airport closes at night. Taking a budget airline flying into an airport not exactly known for its high on-time rate having a plan B should be a given in such a circumstance.

问题是机场晚上会关闭的。在没有后备计划的前提下乘坐一家以不准点闻名的廉价航空公司飞机就会遇到这种情况。

[–]tosicm 4 指标 4小时前
It's highly unlikely people were aware of the fact they'd have to leave airport in case the flight is missed. I've certainly never experienced it and wouldn't bother checking that...

人们是不太可能意识到万一错过航班了他们不得不离开机场的这个事实。我确实没有经历过这个，也不会去查（是否有这个事实）.....

[–]buckwurst 7 指标 5小时前
Narita has a really stupid poilcy of closing the terminals at 12. This means if your flight was delayed or cancelled you're basically out on the cold street outside until 5 or 6 when they reopen. If you know that you get a hotel or choose to freeze.

成田机场有一个在十二点关闭机场的愚蠢政策。这就意味着如果你的航班被延误或取消，你必须在寒冷的街道上等到早上五、六点机场重开。如果这样你必须找到一家宾馆住或者在外面受冻。

I can well imagine this was explained in Japanese and English but maybe not Chinese or that it was explained but that the Chinese wanted the airline to pay for the hotel .

我可以理解此事一定有通过英语和日语但可能不是用中文向游客解释过了，或者说机场人员有用中文向游客们详细解释了一番，但中国人希望机场能够支付他们住宿的开销。

The main problem here though is Narita closing the terminal and not letting people stay in it over night. I'd be pretty angry at being thrown out into the cold. However I'd also probably get a hotel knowing this and I wouldn't have high expectations for a budget airline to pay for it.

主要问题是成田机场晚上会关闭而且还不让人在里面过夜。被扔在如此寒冷的天气里，要我我也会十分生气的。不过，在知道这点后我可能会找一家宾馆过夜，我是不会期望一家廉价航空公司会替我报销住宿费用的。

[–]tnp636 2 指标 2小时前
and I wouldn't have high expectations for a budget airline to pay for it.

“我是不会期望一家廉价航空公司会替我报销住宿费用的。”

Generally when it's weather related airlines aren't responsible. That's what traveler's insurance is for.

通常情况下，由于天气原因取消掉航班并不是航空公司的责任。这个应该由旅游保险负责。

[–]kenji25 2 指标 2小时前
what you said contradict with what was told in the news according to the news the passenger didn't leave the flight waiting area thus after terminal closed they are basically locked inside one guy trying to jump over immigration counter to buy food at departure level thus starting the incident

你说的与新闻中所讲的内容是矛盾的，根据新闻乘客并没有离开航班等候区，因此在航站楼关闭后，他们基本上是被锁在里面的。一个人试图越过入境柜台去候机层那儿买食物，从而引发了这起事故。

[–]ihatenormalpeople 2 指标 1小时前
My experience with Japanese budget airlines:

我乘坐日本廉价航班的经历：

One flight with Vanilla Air cancelled 6 hours before departure no compensation had to apply for a refund.

在起飞前6个小时，我搭乘的香草航空航班被取消，之后没有任何赔偿只能申请退款。

Another flight with Peach Airlines from Haneda which was supposed to leave late at night delayed by 10 hours or so no compensation airport hotel charging 400 bucks a night no way to get out of the airport at reasonable cost.

另一次从羽田机场搭乘原定于夜间起飞的乐桃航空航班，被延误了10个小时左右，之后没有给我任何补偿，而且机场的酒店每晚收取400美元的费用，在没花一笔额外的不小开销下是无法离开机场的。

Worst experiences ever by far and I fly a lot.

我坐了很多次飞机，这是迄今为止最糟糕的经历。