川普:美国政府永远不必违约,因为可以印钞 [美国媒体]

唐纳德.特朗普这周刚开启就抨击媒体对他的国家债务评论进行了虚假陈述。CNN“新的一天” 采访联电川普,他曾说不打算去找债权人及重谈债务。美国网友:他居然在公开场合这么瞎说,太吓人了,民众对我们如何偿债的方式可能会造成永久性的误会。更吓人的是----他是否真的相信自己说的。


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Donald Trump is starting his week by firing back at media outlets for what he felt was a misrepresentation of his comments on the national debt.

 唐纳德.特朗普这周刚开启就抨击媒体对他的国家债务评论进行了虚假陈述。

In a telephone interview with CNN's "New Day," Trump said that he doesn't intend to to go out to creditors and renegotiate the debt.

CNN“新的一天” 采访联电川普,他曾说不打算去找债权人及重谈债务。

"So here's the story, just to have it corrected. If we have an opportunity where interest rates go up and you can buy debt back at a discount," the presumptive nominee said.

这位提名候选人说,“所以现在跟你说的,只是要纠正它。如果我们有利率上升的机会,你就可以低价买回这些债务。”

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"If we are liquid enough as a country we should do that," Trump said. He added that the repurchasing of debt is something that happens in business all the time.

 “作为一个国家如果我们有足够的变现能力,那我们应该这样做,”川普说。他补充道,回购债务在企业中常年发生。

Trump added that there is no way the U.S. government could default because it prints money.

 川普还说,美国政府永远不会违约,因为她印钱。

"This is the United States government. First of all, you never have to default because you print the money. I hate to tell you, okay? So there's never a default," he said.

他说,“这是美国政府。首先,你永远不会违约,因为你是印钱的。我讨厌告诉你这个事实,知道吗?所以美国政府永远不可能发生违约。”


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Chris 16 minutes ago
He's said a lot of dumb things but this is hands down the dumbest. Any first year business student can tell you that even if the government did print it's own money( it doesn't the Federal Reserve and it's independent) if you flood the market with new money then the old money becomes worth less and therefore the dollar on a whole becomes worth less. It's a real wonder why this guy has been bankrupt so many times. A real wonder indeed.

 他说过很多蠢话但是这次的毫无疑问是最蠢的。任何一个商科的新生都能告诉你即使政府真的给自己印钱(政府不印钱,是美联储印钱,并且美联储是相对独立的)如果你向市场放出新钱,旧钱就会变得不值钱,美元整体上就变得不值钱。难怪这个家伙破产那么多次,真令人惊奇。
 
Jonathan 31 minutes ago
It says in our constitution that we can scrap the current govt. at any time we chose. Congress only has an 11% approval rating so I think now would be the perfect time to wipe the slate clean and start over new and this time write in the new constitution that lawyers can not run for public office, term limits of only 4 years then you are gone with NO PENSION, you got to use the same healthcare system as everyone else, no wars or tax increases without a popular vote, lobbying is punishable by death, taking bribes and kickbacks is punishable by death on national television, political parties are banned, you can not get any type of govt. welfare unless you are participating in the workforce and then it is limited to a certain amount of time... There are tons of things we can add to it to make it a "more perfect union".

我们的宪法说我们可以推翻现政府,我们觉得什么时候合适都可以。国会现在只有11%的支持率所,以我觉得现在是将过去一笔勾销、重新开始的绝好时机。然后这次我们要在新宪法里写上:律师不能参与竞选公职,任期只有4年并且离任时没有养老金,你必须和所有人享受一样的医保体系,不通过全民公投不能发动战争及增税,进行游说活动将被判处死刑,受贿及吃回扣将在国家电视台直播被判死刑,政党被禁止,除非参与劳动,否则不能领取任何的政府福利并且有时间限制。。。还有一大堆东西要加进去,让美国成为一个“更完美的联邦”。

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Sancho 19 minutes ago
Technically Trump is correct. Currency is based on faith. We could print money and pay off our national debt tomorrow. It's called debt monetization. We already do it in small increments - as do all developed nations. As long as nations have faith in the U.S. economy, they'll continue buying our dollars. Monetization of the U.S. dollar to pay off our debt would destroy world economies so we don't do it. We continue to add to it. Our national debt is more notional than real. As long as the world agrees that the dollar is pegged to something of value like the future economic integrity of the U.S., the debt simply metastasizes off to the side ignored. It's not being paid down. It's being subsidized by countries who need U.S. market in order to sell their stuff. and isn't included in anything serious. Seriously - without US markets, Chinese manufacturing would be devastated. It remains in the world economy's best interest to purchase our dollars, our debt and all those bundled mortgages.

技术上特朗普说的是正确的。货币的基础是信用。我应该印钱还清所有国债。这叫债务货币化。我们已经在少量增加的尝试——就像所有发达国家那样。只要美国对自身经济有信心。有人将继续购买我们的美元。但是用美元货币化偿清我们的债务将会摧毁世界经济,所以我们不能这样做。我们做了一些补充。我们的国债更多的是虚拟的而非真实的。只要世界相信美元与有价值的东西挂钩,比如像未来美国总体经济,债务就会转移到被忽略的一面。这些债务没有得到支付。相当于其他国家在资助我们,因为其他国家需要进入美国市场销售产品,没什么大不了的。说真的,没有美国市场,中国制造业将一蹶不振。所以购买我们的美元、债务以及所有那些捆绑的抵押贷款依然最有利于世界经济。

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chico81 11 minutes ago
This is what happens when you vote for someone who isn't a "politician", you get someone who doesn't understand the national economy, global economy, civics, the constitution, history, civil rights, or the consequences of his actions. This is why I would rather trust someone who has devoted their life to the public good, to political theory, to civics, to macro economics, to history, and to law. Yes, Clinton and Obama have a somewhat tarnished record, but I can guarantee you they wouldn't be saying dumb things like this. This isn't a reality tv show, you can't call bankruptcy on our nation, you can't just print money to pay debts. Anybody who took a high school civics class knows that it leads to massive duation of currency and hyperinflation. Look at post WWI Germany. How can the presidential nominee be this clueless? But as he so eloquently stated, "I went to the best schools, I'm like, a smart person".

当你给一个非“职业政客”投票时,就会发生这种事:你选的人不了解国民经济、全球经济、公民学、宪法、历史、公民权利或者自己言行的后果。这就是为什么我宁愿相信那些致力于公益事业、政治理论、公民学、宏观经济学、历史和法律的人。是啊,克林顿和奥巴马有一点污点记录,但我可以向你保证他们不会说这种蠢话。这不是一档电视真人秀,你不能让我们国家破产,你不能只印钱来还债。任何人只要上过高中公民学的课程,就会知道这将导致大规模货币贬值和恶性通胀。看看一战后的德国。这个总统候选人怎么可以如此愚蠢?但他非常雄辩地强调,“我从最好的学校毕业,我看上去就像一个聪明人”。

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A Yahoo reader 10 minutes ago
Why yes Donald that is true! ... BUT...The only thing, your "astonishing business mind" fails to understand is for each of those dollar printed the value of the US dollar decreases. The very same thing has been happening for thousands of years with out much success. THe poor middle class gets the brunt of it, but not for much longer, they are a dying class in the world today. I've got to tell you Donald, you have a nack for bringing up the obvious. You might want to go back to flaunting your intellect to yourself, because most of the rest of the world isn't fooled by your intellect in any way whatsoever.You can most assuredly explain it to yourself again so that you and your mind are on the same page.

唐纳德说的是对的!但是……你“令人惊讶的商业思维”不能理解一件事,每一美元印出来,美元的价值减少。几千年来同样的事情在发生着,但是并没有取得多大的成功。贫穷的中产阶级受其拖累,过不了多久,他们将成为世界上将死的阶层。我已经告诉你唐纳德,你明显否定了这个事实。你也许想要回去夸耀你见解,因为世界上其它国家不会被你的见解所愚弄。你要再给你自己解释一遍,看看你和你的见解是否一致。

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Bronco Fan 22 minutes ago
Trump is such an idiot. First he believes he can solve a debt issue like he would with one of his real estate deals by threatening to default if the lender won't accept a discounted payoff.

 特朗普就是个蠢货。首先他竟然相信自己可以解决美国的债务问题,就像解决以往手中的一个房地产问题一样,仅需通过威胁债权方如果不接受现在折扣的价格就不还钱的方式就能解决美国的债务问题。
Then he says we can just print money to buy back debt which any first year finance student knows won't work. So what's next? Will he offer a plan to put the US into bankruptcy and then just start a new country like he would with one of his businesses?

然后他说我们可以印更多的钞来买回债务,根本行不通,这是金融一年级的学生都知道的常识好不好。接下来呢?他要提出申请美国破产计划,再重新创建一个国家,就像以往重新创建一个企业一样简单,呵呵。
How in the hell can anyone take this guy seriously? He's like a reality TV show mogul and a game show host all rolled into one. Why did Joe Walsh ever stop running for President. This would have been his year to take it all. LOL

为什么会有人把这个奇葩这么当回事儿?他充其量就是个TV秀里的人物和娱乐节目里主持人的合体。为什么Joe Walsh放弃角逐总统大选。明明该是他一举拿下才对。哈哈

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yoyoyo 27 minutes ago
Trump isn't stupid.
Anyone who thinks that Trump understands national and international macroeconomics is stupid.
We renig on debt as a nation, i.e. we negotiate to a lower debt with the countries we owe, , or we don't pay anything, and our credit rating as a nation will go down, and the economy will tank
No amount of printing currency can change that.
Default? IDK, but neither does Trump.
 
川普不是笨蛋。
那些认为川普贯通国家和国际宏观经济学的人才是笨蛋。
我们身为一个国家背弃债务,如同我们协商达成比现阶段更低的债务水平,或许我们不需要支付任何费用,但我们国家的信用评级将会下降,经济地位也会动摇。
大量地印钞也不能改变现状。
违约?我不知道,川普同样也不清楚。
 
simple logic 1 minute ago
Moron and utter imbecile this Duck.

白痴和彻底低能的川普鸭。

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Infamoustimes 2 minutes ago
It's scary he would put that answer out there in public to be absorbed as a permanent misconception about how we pay on our debt. And even scarier - does he actually BELIEVE it.

他居然在公开场合这么瞎说,太吓人了,民众对我们如何偿债的方式可能会造成永久性的误会。更吓人的是----他是否真的相信自己说的。
 
paul 25 minutes ago
I do wish we did have are own money, then if we loan it out to people, we would collect interest to run our government.

我真的希望政府有自己的钱,如果借贷给大众,就可以收利息来支付日常开支。 
 
chico81 30 minutes ago
Yeah, Germany tried this after WWI, worked out great for them. Hyperinflation, bread cost a million marks. It probably wouldn't get that bad but it would due our currency and the average American will have substantially lower buying power, thus making Americans poorer. Any other bright ideas for bankrupting our nation like you did your companies?

没错,德国在一战后尝试印钞,嗯干的很棒。结果恶性通胀,一块面包要花一百万马克。我们印钞的结果也许不会那么糟糕,但是会造成货币贬值,普通老百姓的购买力会大幅度降低,美国人会变得更穷。还有没有其他好主意让我们国家像你们公司一样破产的举措呢?

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Robert 37 minutes ago
The comments show me people aren't understanding the difference between a default and hyperinflation. Trump is 100% correct, the US government can never default since it controls the supply of the very currency it owes its debt in.
 
Trump did not say that doing so wouldn't cause a whole slew of problems by itself.
我看了下评论,大家似乎不懂违约和恶性通胀的区别。川普100%是对的,美国政府永远不会违约,因为它控制了它欠债的那种货币的发行。

shawn 36 minutes ago
Not true- the Federal Reserve bank prints money. And the Federal reserve is not owned by the US. They are the World Bank. America sold out to them in 1913. Look it up!!! That's why we pay interest on that money!

不对----美联储才有权印钞。美联储不属于美国政府。美国1913年把美联储卖给了世界银行,现在世界银行才管美联储。去查一下资料!!!所以我们要给欠债付利息!

He who shall not be named 36 minutes ago
The government can print money NOW.
So why doesn't that fix our financial problems NOW?
Could it be because Government Finances don't work in the same way as Business Finances? Hmmm...

政府现在就可以印钞。
那为什么印钞没有解决现在的财政问题?
莫非政府金融和商业金融的机制不同?我陷思......

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Isaac 37 minutes ago
“First of all, you never have to default because you print the money.” A great thinker Zimbabwean president Robert Mugabe also thinks in the same way. In that country people go to market with bag full of money and come back home with pocket full of goods.

“首先,你永远不会违约,因为可以印钞。”有位伟大的思想家----津巴布韦总统罗伯特.穆加贝也是这个思路。在该国,人们装了一麻袋现金去采购,只带回一口袋商品。
 
Ed 17 minutes ago
But you right wingers keep telling me that he is a genius. He keeps saying how smart he is. Will monopoly money be also available as well?

可是你们右翼党人一直告诉我们他是天才。他一直在吹嘘自己多聪明。到时候垄断资金也能弄得到吗?
 
Nate Watermelon 29 minutes ago
Printing money costs MONEY. You have to pay:
The workers, for the paper, the ink, the shipping, the maintenance for the machines AND the machines themselves, plus the security at the facilities, pay whomever makes the paper fibers, the lumberjacks who cut the trees down, pay the armored car drivers, and lastly...you have to pay the electrical bill for the machines.

印钞也有成本的好不好。你必须支付下面的费用:
人工费,纸张钱、油墨费、运费,印钞机购置费、机器保养费,加上安全设施的费用,要支付任何造纸费用、伐木工人砍树的人工费、支付装甲运钞车司机费用,最后…你还要付印钞机的电费。

Wonderful, we have more than enough money to build the wall!

说得太好了,我们砌墙的钱倒是够了!

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JJ 52 minutes ago
The Great Pumpkin has spoken. Unfortunately printing more money dues the currency.

大南瓜开始讲话了。不幸的是,印钞会使货币贬值。
 
Bill & Kalie 1 hour ago
Germany printed money after WWI as well. Results was massive inflation and unrest. It took a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread. The unrest gave rise to the #$%$ party.

德国一战后也印钞。结果是大规模通胀和动荡。当时买一条面包需要用满满一手推车的钱。因为动荡,所以纳粹崛起。
 
buddybudd 40 minutes ago
The United States doesn't print money. The Federal Reserve does and the Federal Reserve is a privately owned bank.

美国政府不印钞。美联储才有权印钞,可它是私人银行。

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